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Aug 14, 2025
A Numbers Game | August 14, 2025 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | August 14, 2025 | Hour 2
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0:01
The numbers tell the story, they always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is the Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
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Hour number two of a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network, VSiN.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course Sirius XM channel 158. It's a Numbers Game, Gil Alexander. Kelly Bidlin behind the glass.
0:20
Because it's hour number two on a Thursday, you know what that means. Unscripted with the Crag Man, Bill Krackomberger.
0:27
[upbeat music] What up, Billy? Good morning. How are you, sir? I'm good. I have a can of Raid.
0:44
I have sanitizer. [laughs] I have... I, I just can't believe just now- Germophobe Bill Krackomberger... I see... I, I, I mean, look, I, I shook a lot of hands this week, but nice people, too. I met a lot of people.
0:55
Um, the same people that'll be talking about us next week on Twitter, I'm sure. Oh. No, just a couple of them. Yeah. But seri- on a serious note, I, I, I'm waiting outside and I see George, G- G- G-R-P, is that it, GRP?
1:09
Run up the steps, like runs, I don't know if he was running to his room or something. Mm-hmm. Got the same clothes on as last night. [laughs] And he looked- I got it. [laughs] He looked pretty rough. It's good.
1:19
I mean, here's another guy that says hello to me in person, "Hi, hi Bill, how are you?" Yeah. And then on the computer, he telephone top... At least I know who he is, though. Oh.
1:26
Most pe- most people are on their anonymity. But, um- The courage of anonymity. Oh, you know- Although he's not anonymous. At least he- No, he's not anonymous. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
1:34
And, uh, so, so George, um, George come up to me and was talking about... He, he... I first walked into the thing and I see him up there, and he... It seems like this guy...
1:42
Now, listen, I'm not one to talk, you know, being slightly overweight myself, but- No... it seems like- Yeah... he always has a plate of food.
1:49
Like first thing, first time he sees me I was like, "George, I'm not shaking your hand. You got chicken sauce on your hand. I'm not shaking your hand." Like, you know, not, I don't know if I'd shake his hand anyway.
1:57
Anyway, so- You enjoy Bet Bash, though, don't you? This is my first time. I never went. Oh, you never went. Never went before. You and Kelly Bidlin, you guys. I, I never went, I never went before. So I did my- Yeah...
2:06
did my podcast there yesterday. Had some great guests on there yesterday. Um, I had the Wager Wire guys explain a little more layman terms.
2:13
I had one of your sponsors for your, um, EdgeBoost, Sonny, the guy that owns EdgeBoost. I said, "Sonny, let's put this in some more layman's terms for people out there. Like how does your company work?" Mm-hmm.
2:22
'Cause I'll be blunt, it sounded too good to be true. I've used Neteller 20 years ago. We all did. And they froze my money for nine months, 10 months. [laughs] Yeah. I think, I thought I wasn't getting paid. Yeah.
2:32
I thought I was not getting paid. They closed them in the United States. So this company, they have this credit card- Mm-hmm... that you can put on, you, you could, you charge all the different sports books.
2:40
But they're a bank, that's why. Now I didn't under- I was like, "Listen, there's no way these things are gonna go through.
2:45
The banks all, you know, you get thrown out of Chase, Citibank, they don't want sports bettors in there." Mm-hmm. But they're the bank. So he owns the bank.
2:52
I underst- stand more now with EdgeBoost, so it's actually a good... And they pay you back. I was like, "Come on, this is too good to be true." So I brought him on there, used his lines.
3:01
Shameless plug for a recent sponsor. But yeah, they're, uh, um, anyway- Yeah... it's a good product, and now I understand it more, and I think the public does, too. You know? Um, so anyway, that's a good product. So
3:12
now, a, uh, two different psychiatrist, yeah. There was one at my, one at my show yesterday. I had a nice crowd of about 100 people.
3:20
One at the show, and a different guy came up to me, put his arm around me, a clinical psychologist. He hands me his card. He goes, "Listen, I love you guy- you."
3:30
He goes, "I," he goes, "I listen to you and Gil every week. I love you guys." He goes, "Take my card." He said, "I won't take your money." I was like, "What, this is how you introduce me?"
3:39
[laughs] What is he- Do I need a psychologist? What are you trying to say? [laughs] Yeah. He said, "Here's what I tell my patients," he said, "You have too much time behind you and too little time in front of you."
3:53
I, I liked what he said to me. I said, "What do you, so wait." He goes, "There's too much time behind you, too much time in front of you. Relax. Don't be so salty on air and stuff."
4:02
And then he used that word, so he does listen to us. Salty, yeah. Yeah. He's like, "Relax. There's no time for hate." You know, he gave me his card- That-...
4:09
I put it in my pocket, and he said, "And I won't take your money." I have his card here. It's- By the way, by the way, actually very good advice. Wow. Yeah. I was like, "What, do I sound that way on the show?"
4:19
Like he, he said- Ah, s- s-... "There's too much time." I, I was like, "Is it, can you say that again?" I said.
4:24
He goes, "There's, you have too much time behind you and so little time in front of you for any kind of hatred and stuff." He goes, "Here's my card." [laughs] "You call me." He said, "I won't take your money."
4:34
I just love that that was his opener with you, not even- That's how he opened... "Hey, Kelly." [laughs] It was like, "Hey, I really..." You know, but he did say, his opener was- Yeah... "I love you and Gil.
4:41
I watch you all the time." So I, I, I'm sorry, doc, I hate to do this to you. If you didn't... Obviously Gil didn't see you yet. No. Because he said, "I'm going to grab Gil, too." [laughs] That's why I'm salty.
4:54
He's gonna... No. Yeah. But he's gonna, he says, "I wanna give Gil a card, too. You're, you're the..." I, I, I, I don't know if I'm allow- even allowed to tell this story. This is so great.
5:01
[laughs] Uh, really, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to... And, and we're not laughing at you, sir. I know you watch us. No. We're not laughing at you. We're, I'm just saying I, I appreciate you and, and Gil appreciates you.
5:09
I'll be honest with you, I think Gil needs it more than me. [laughs] But it doesn't matter. You know, I'm just- That's true. No, I'm joking. That's not true at all. I'm joking. You're- Yeah... you are, um- [laughs]...
5:17
a bubbly spirit to everyone. Oh, a bubbly spirit. Walk around like- Yeah... rainbows, lollipops and sunshine bopping around. Unicorns. That's right. Yeah. That's me.
5:24
But no, I just thought that was pretty good what he said to me, and I said I gotta tell, say that I, I didn't ask him, you know- Yeah... if I can repeat it on air. But, um, so you, I'm coming in here. Yeah.
5:33
I'm just firing away here. Coming in here, I heard you guys talking about something that was really good. I said, "Holy, I never think of that." You're right. You and Kelly were talking about overlays in these contests.
5:46
Don't even worry about them. We don't. Don't think... Let me tell you something. We don't anymore.
5:49
Every year, being an advantage gambler and the, you know, my, my brain just works so crazy about getting the edge on everything. I say, "Okay, how many Survivor entries is it gonna be?
5:57
Do you think there's gonna be an overlay?" And I know Cir- I know, uh, Cirque does Survivor every year. It gets there in the last week. You guys said the last week. Yeah.
6:05
Like Derek came on my show every single year two weeks before- Especially the first couple years, probably thinking he wasn't gonna get there on these, these guarantees, and we put a clip out on Visa on, on, on Twitter for him.
6:19
Um, you guys said it right. Now, now it would be a shock if he didn't. You, you guys said it right. Listen, s- uh, Survivor's definitely way over. Yes.
6:25
Uh, Millions, eh, it's gon- maybe a break even, but probably will get there anyway. Yeah. But the main- Millions is on pace. It's always on pace, yeah...
6:32
the main takeaway from what I took away from you guys talking was, you're right. Why am I even thinking about any overlay? That means nothing. First of all, there's a lot of luck in these things, as we know.
6:43
Yeah, thank you. A- a- and secondly, e- every time they get there anyway, th- these, these, these things. So, um, yeah, they're gonna get there, um- So how many, how many entries for you this year? Oh, I, I have 10.
6:53
You know, it's funny, I had Fez, Fez come up yesterday. I let him on, on, on the panel for a couple minutes telling us strategy for the Eagles first week, you know, the, the strategy, which I like.
7:03
But you know, the Eagles are, like, only six-and-a-half point favorites in that game. It's not like they can, you know, they're, they're the easy winner for the game. So it's a really good strategy.
7:10
So he's like, "I'm taking 10 entries max if the Eagles lose, and only two if they w- And, you know, two if, if they, if they win."
7:17
So, um- So explain, explain that to- Everyone I know, though, is saying, "I'm not doing that. I'm, I'm taking the max entries," you know? Explain that to folks, just so people missed it. Sure.
7:25
So what Fez, he, and Fezzik recommends this every year now- He does... that there's a, uh, there's a- It was a big-... preliminary game or two. Yep.
7:31
But he essentially says, uh, with the Philly game this year, he waits to purchase. Cor- correct. He waits for the res- That's a Thursday night game?
7:38
I, I believe there's a Thursday and a Friday off the she- schedule this week. Okay, if it's a Thursday or a Friday night game- Yeah... whatever it is.
7:43
And then he, uh, by the way, I should know that, the fact that it's not the top of the- No, me too. I, I think it's Thursday. I think it is Thursday. Um- But I could be wrong...
7:48
the, so what he does is he will not buy anything. By the way, Cowboys-Eagles Thursday- Thursday, okay... followed by the Chiefs-Chargers on Friday.
7:55
But the Cowboys-Eagles, he waits for the result of that, and if the Eagles win as they're supposed to- Yes... he purchases all of the entries. If- If they lose- If the Eagles wins, he purchases two. Oh, he purchases two.
8:08
Yeah. Okay. Because he feels that people already have the Eagles, so he's at a disadvantage. There's the, there's actually a disadvantage buying in if the Eagles win. Right. And if the Cowboys win- Max entries...
8:18
max entries is what he- Thinking people got knocked out with the Thursday night game, which by the way- It's a great strategy... people are going to have- It's a great strategy... the Eagles in Survivor. Yeah.
8:25
They're going to have that. So it's a good, it's a good strategy, but like my buddies that [laughs] they're gamblers, they don't care. I sent it to somebody, a, a buddy of mine, but, you know, he has too much money.
8:36
He called me back, goes, he goes, "Is Fez out of his mind? This is the big- You got a shot for 15 million. I'm putting 10 entries in," you know, like. Fez, Fez will play any little edge he can find, and that's an edge.
8:44
It's, it's actually a really good edge. He, he- It, it really is... I was mentioning this earlier, by the way. Denver's gonna be probab- I, I would imagine the most popular week one Survivor play.
8:53
Um, the Denver Broncos, who, um, are, what are they right now? They are a seven-and-a-half point favorite still against the Titans. You know, rookie quarterback Cam Ward going into the elevation of Denver- Yep...
9:06
with a great defense. And I was mentioning earlier, and, and I shout out Tanner, uh, Dr. Bob's right-hand man, for, uh, mentioning this. The Broncos, weeks one and two, uh, home games stretching back 52 games. Okay.
9:20
40 and 12 straight up. Wow. Now, again- Elway's a big part of that. [laughs] What's that? Got, Elway's gotta be a big part. Well, so now to Dr. Bob and Tanner, that's not statistically significant.
9:29
I think to a lot of listeners it would be. That'd be enough for them to be like, "40 and 12? I'm in." Right, right. And it makes intuitive sense, right?
9:35
It's, it's guys who are still coming off training camp going into elevation, and, you know, that's the, the, it would make intuitive sense that they are, you know, defenses would, uh, sort of drag in that kind of game.
9:48
Also, he, he noted against the spread, not that this matters for Survivor, but against the spread, it is also, like, north of 70%. Wow.
9:56
It's some ridiculous gaudy number, weeks one and two, um, because guys are, you know, the Denver would have a bit of an advantage over, um, players not from or not used to elevation- Sure... coming off a training camp.
10:08
Normally I fight on this. Normally. This situation, I won't. You know, these trends that go back- Yeah... to different spots. Oh, no, I'm not a trends guy. This, this is- But this was, this makes sense...
10:15
this is legit elevation-wide. Yeah. Very good. This is why I never say, like, anybody who says, "All trends are stupid," well, not all trends are stupid. Sometimes they do make sense. This is very good. Very good. Yeah.
10:22
And you're right. You're, you're, you're like me with the trends, so- Yeah... you're right. But I'm just saying, so that's an interesting, but the Fezzik strategy makes complete- Yeah... complete sense.
10:29
I have a big question to ask you, the listeners, the viewers. So I have an entry in Grand eSmall. Oh, you do? Yeah, a team, part of us. Yeah.
10:37
Now, the second entry, I got a buddy of mine, the guy that, you know, he's a very wealthy guy. Mm-hmm. He's like, "Crack, I'm in there, and, and, and now I wanna know this. I'm put- it's under my name. I'm putting it in.
10:49
I'm gonna be his proxy under my name for this entry. What do I deserve as the free roll? What do I deserve? You're putting it under my name, I gotta have a free roll. You didn't put it under your name.
10:58
You're not coming here. You're way on the East Coast. What do I deserve as a free roll?" I'm thinking, like, 20, 25%. 20, 25%? Yeah, you always start high. Don't tell, don't, I don't want him to know, but yeah.
11:10
Like, you got, you know. I, I think I deserve a, a good free roll, Frankie. I just told him, "Sorry," I'm on air saying it. I, uh, you know, I think, well, you're, you're lippy. You're quiet. Your tongue's out.
11:20
You're- No, no, no. You must be thinking I'm crazy. No, I- I gotta get a free roll. You're putting it in my name. I'm, I'm not saying you shouldn't get a free roll. Yeah. 25% is quite a- Little high?...
11:26
quite a hefty free roll. 22 and a half percent? Listen to me. [laughs] I should have went, I should have told you- That's what I'd have asked for... ahead of time. Yeah.
11:32
Can you please agree with me so he knows, and I'll throw you a couple percent. Oh, Bill, I- I was gonna wet your beak. I was gonna wet your beak... I, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Okay. There you go. There you go.
11:41
Wholeheartedly. Coming back, more Unscripted with the Kragman, Bill Krackomberger, @billkragman with a K, right here on VSiN, the sports betting network.
11:49
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12:27
Gil Alexander, Bill Krackomberger, everybody, @billkragman with a K on Twitter, the name of his podcast, Wise Cracks.... with John Orlando and Bill Krackenberger, which they did live at Bet Bash here, uh, yesterday.
12:40
Um, that must have been fun, 100 people live in- It was... in the audience watching your podcast. Asking questions back and forth. That's great. It, it was really a, a really nice crowd.
12:47
By the way, a crowd that had a dozen females in it. Wow. So that was pretty cool. Oh, that's interesting. I was like, wow. John noticed it more than the men. I was like, I was like, "Yeah, John, you're right.
12:56
There, like all the girls there." I couldn't believe it. Were you like, "I bring in the ladies"? Was that your attitude about it? No, no. John with his tight shirts probably do. Yeah, yeah. You know?
13:03
And they, they don't realize he's old. I mean, they do know he's got tight- [laughs] But yeah. Everybody realizes it. All right. Wait, well, let's go back to this. Oh yeah, let's finish- Let's go back...
13:09
'cause I didn't explain it right. You didn't explain it completely. I'm sorry. Yeah, let's do it again, for the beginning. So I have a buddy of mine back on the East Coast, and he wants to get in this tournament.
13:20
Grandissimo. However, he cannot get here, so I have to put it in my name. Grandissimo, we're talking about. Grandissimo. $100,000 entry.
13:24
So he's like, "Come out over here, fly over here and I'll, uh, I'll, I'll give you the money and go back in and put it under your name." He said, "I'll pay the taxes."
13:33
Of course he's gonna pay the taxes, but I just thought about my time. First of all, I'm, just to let you know, I'm getting first-class airfare. I'm just gonna bill you. It, it is what it is.
13:42
Um, a- and then I'm gonna come over here, put it in my name. Taxes, I understand. He's gonna pay the taxes. I just wanna know what percentage I'm getting in the end. Yeah. Now, granted, if I win it,
13:54
I'm getting the money, so I could probably determine my own percentage. [laughs] But, uh, yeah, I'm just saying, it, it is. That's the point. That's the first point of contact with the money? Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying.
14:02
You determine your own percentage. [laughs] But I, I wanna do the right thing, of course. And, and- Of course you do. Okay... I just wanna know my percent. Love it. I thought, I wanted to start at 25%.
14:09
Let me ask you, let me ask you- The bids can come in... let me ask you a question. Yeah. How good of a friend is this? Very good friend.
14:14
Has he been a wonderful, benevolent, kind, generous friend for all the years you've known him? Boy, I hate to give him a big head. Yes. Okay. Yes. That's a factor to me. Yes. Okay. Oh, yeah.
14:26
Um, we got, we got one tweet from, let's see. Well, we got a couple tweets on this. Jason Ice Cold Gambler says, "My answer to Bill is 20%." Good.
14:35
Mike Rouse says, "On the proxy free roll, what would Crackman tip the proxy if the roles were reversed?" That should be the percentage he asks for. Who asked that? Mike Rouse. Ooh. Very good question. What, Mister...
14:47
Let's, let's see how, uh- Tip the proxy, huh?... honest you'll be. How, how would you, uh... Uh, I'd probably say about 5%. You would tip the proxy 5%? Well, at the end, because, you know- Yeah...
14:59
most people won't tip that much even. Yeah. But if you wanna make a deal with me, I tell the proxies, "You wanna make a deal with me, put all my picks in for me.
15:05
I'm not gonna pay the 150 per head, or $100 per head per entry. I will give you a deal of 5%. You can have a, whatever I win. If I win a million bucks, you get 50,000."
15:15
Okay, let's- By the way, none of them went for it... let's put the proxy aside for a second. Yeah. Back to the original question. The number that pops in my head is 10%. Okay. And I'll tell you why. All right.
15:24
Because if he's been generous, if he's been lovely all these years to you- I've been that way to him too, though... I know you have. I, maybe 'cause I know you.
15:30
Um, but if you're billing him for the first class and you're doing all that other stuff also, and so it's sort of like even-Steven as- Yeah... we get into this, I don't think any less than 10%. I think 25% is too high.
15:40
Let me be blunt. Yes. I've never told this story, I don't think, on air. Yeah. Now, a lot of people know the story. He came out here for a month and he said, "I'm not leaving until I lose."
15:50
He c- he only planned to come out here for seven days. He went for 31 days straight and left a million and one with me. He left a million dollars in cash with me. I put it in a box. Mm-hmm. This is t- this is 2002.
16:02
I put it in a box. He won a parlay. He won, uh, he just, he just won. Uh, he trusted me for six months out here with a million d- I, so I tr- he trusted me too. Yeah. So it's a two-way street. So we're back up to 20%.
16:14
[laughs] I was gonna say you're... I'm looking at Bill. Bill's like, "I'm so upset with you for saying 10%." [laughs] All right, 20% it is. All right. 20. Good deal. All right. Good deal. We settled on 20.
16:24
I hope he agrees to it. Oh, man. But you'll start, you're gonna start at 25%? Fez just text me. Oh, no. 10% no more. Yeah, I'm with Fez. Fez, you were- I'm with Fez... getting a piece of this. You're killing me.
16:33
Oh, okay. I went for it. But anyway, you know, that, so a- a- and, you know, it's not a funny subject 'cause it's a real subject. No, I know it is. You know?
16:39
And, and trust me, I'm taking the risk of taking 100,000 cash across the country. Now, I say that- It's also gonna be in your name, so even though he's paying- Yeah... the taxes, uh, legally it is your tax- Yeah...
16:48
you know, burden. Yes. Well, the tax, the taxes I'm, I do anyway. I'm gambling- Yeah... with taxes, but, uh, a- and, and how about this? We don't even know if this stupid rule is gonna g- be changed or not.
16:59
[laughs] This is g- till, what, next year- Yeah... when this settles. Talk about big, beautiful Bill. Yeah, so we- Yeah... don't even know if, uh, i- it's 10 or 100%, and I, if I can only have 90%.
17:08
Let's get the money first. Let's get the money first, then we'll decide on the percentage. All right. So you're in Grandissimo then. Yeah. The $100,000 entry. Yeah.
17:15
I, I, I said it, 30 and a half was my number of entries. Wow. And it's, it's gonna get there, I think. No, he said the same thing. I said 25 or less. He goes, "Are you crazy?"
17:22
The, the first, actually, to be quite honest, the first thing that blurted out of my mouth was 20, but I quickly changed it to 30 when we realized how- I don't know how, how many we have? I don't even know.
17:30
Uh, I think we're in the teens now- Okay... if I'm not mistaken. Okay, good. Don't hold me to that, but I think we are. Yeah. Um, yeah. It's, just people, it, that's the, been the biggest thing. I'll say it again.
17:39
Since PASPA was ruled unconstitutional, 2018, I think the biggest surprise, we sort of take it for granted now, but just the number of... I never would've imagined s- so many people with so much disposable income. Yeah.
17:52
And maybe, by the way, definitions of disposable is varies, right? Yeah. But, um, yeah, people, people have money. And he's a legit guy too. I mean, he owns- Yeah... many bars, strip clubs up and down the coast.
18:02
You know, he, he's got so much money and just, you know. Okay. So strat- people wanna know survivor strategy, so forget Grandissimo for a second.
18:07
Let's go to the normal circle where you're gonna have 10 entries, 20, 30, however you do things. We know how that goes. Um, what is the s- are you a guy who splits? Are you a guy who shoves?
18:19
What do, what do you typically do? And you're- Yeah... and by the way, you've gotten into arguments with partners before where you're like, "Don't do this, don't do this." Yeah. Yeah.
18:27
No, we've, uh, uh, had many, uh, times where we had all 10 entries. So I'll have 10 of them under mine, 10 under my wife, and, um, I'll take pieces of other people. Mm-hmm.
18:38
And we've had a lot of times where we went all 10 the same thing, and I hate that. I, I, I rather split it a little bit, you know?
18:44
Um, a g- perfect example What was the percentage, I heard it on the show, after week five? It was, like, 96% of the- 98%- 98?... plus last year going after five weeks. That's unbelievable.
18:57
Like- It's, it's the most amazing thing ever... a lot of people shoved all on one team, and, and I was one of them. We were out early. Yeah. We bought back in late.
19:03
Um, by the way, if you guys don't remember, this is, like, two years in a row, I wanna ask him again. I said, "Hey, Gil, you don't take your full entries. Can I get involved with you?" [laughs] And he said...
19:11
He turned me down flat. I, like... Yeah, no, I mean- So I, I like to live or die solo on these. [laughs] That's good. But I will tell you, you'll be the first...
19:19
If I, if I, if I get far again, and I've only gotten far once in Circuit Survivor, I... You'll be the first person I'll be like, "Investment money." Oh, good. Yeah.
19:26
Good, 'cause there's a, there's a site that was doing it, but- There was a site that was doing it... a- and, and, uh- Remember la- that was the...
19:31
Remember the surprise from last year with the site is, you know, when f- when Fezzik would get in, like, a couple years ago with folks, it was always at a discount, right? It was not the proper percentage.
19:41
And that, on that site, people were not only paying f- s- uh, the actual mathematical value of their percentage, but they were going above. That was the surprise of that auction site. Yes, yes, yes. Remember?
19:52
We couldn't believe it. So I had a situation with, with Steven from the show last year, Sh- Shalansky- Yes... that's filming the Survivor show, where he came to me and said, "Hey, Bill, I got two or three..."
20:01
He had three teams that wanted to cash out. I was negotiating back and forth with them. We actually negotiated for a team and spent 40,000 on a team, my group.
20:12
So which sh- which by the way, of course, it lost with the Indianapolis Colts losing to the Giants. That's how it lost. They were, like, a seven-point favorite. Might have been in, playing in New York that weekend.
20:22
But anyway, so of course the year before, you know, I cashed out with Fezz. I, I, I did really g- I made, like, 40 grand the year before with Fezz, so I'm gonna go right to him. "Hey, Fezz, I have this group.
20:33
I'm taking at least 25%, more like 50% of it. What percent do you want?" "Zero." I was like, "Why?" He goes, "Ah, I don't want it. I don't want no per..."
20:41
I, I wa- he di- didn't even, I didn't even get to explain it to him. I think he just said, "I'm not getting involved in any this year for a reason." Oh, I, I know why. Oh, yeah, do you know the reason?
20:50
Well, I'm, I'm speculating. Yeah. But I remember the year before when he w- had invested in someone else's. Yes. It was not a p- not... It was a stressful experience. That's what I had. I had a piece of that entry. Yeah.
21:01
You're right. It was a stressful back and forth with the, picking the teams, right? It w- not only picking... Well, picking the teams, the, the owner of the, uh, of the entry, he, he- Greg Jones, right? Yeah, Greg Jones.
21:11
Yeah. He had, he had the full say on that. Sure, okay. Um, but it, uh, but it was just... I, I mean, he had, he had the ultimate say. Right. So I think it was just how you should monetize. Okay.
21:23
And then it was just such a stressful activity. Like I said, it's like, it becomes almost more stressful than the picking itself. Yeah, yeah. And so I just think that, um...
21:32
And Fezzik, you know Fezzik, he, like, he becomes obsessed with stuff like this. He does. And so- But he's very, very fair. He's great. Yeah.
21:37
But it becomes overwhelming, and I understand why he wanted to sit out a year doing it. Okay. Yeah, yeah. The investment part, yeah. He, he, he was like, "Ah, I can't do it." Yeah. "I can't..."
21:44
And you're right, it was like, I can't do it this year mentally. I can't get involved with it this year. I'm too busy with stuff. And- I remember being on a, on a- You're right. It was that... we went to Caesars.
21:52
He was, he was like, "Hey, come to Caesars. I'm at the gy- " [laughs] We were at the, on the two treadmills next to each other the whole time. Right. We're on the treadmill. He's talking to me.
21:58
I'm like, "Ah, I'm not talking to you while I'm on the treadmill." Oh. Right? [laughs] He's just going through Survivor- Yeah... violently. I don't ever talk on a treadmill either, but you're right.
22:04
[laughs] No, it's not a good thing to do, so. No, but so you guys actually- Yeah... were there talking about it, but you actually talked about it a little bit after then. What do you mean after? The, the, yeah.
22:12
Well, after on the treadmill you actually did talk about it a little bit, or you didn't? Oh, my God, it was, it was constant. Oh. That was a thing. When you...
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We were in, like, late November and December, throughout December, just, like, figuring out- Yeah... "Oh, now there's this many people left, and they're gonna take, they're probably gonna take these teams." Right.
22:25
It, it's just a whole thing. Isn't it an exciting time of the year? It's amazing. It really is. It's so different than two months ago. At the end of March Madness- Right... you have April, May, June. Yeah. Oh, even July.
22:34
It's, it's- You're counting down the weeks... it's football and everything else. Colin Cowherd famously says, um, "They pay me for July. They don't pay me for football." Ah, there you go. Well said. Perfect.
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23:29
This is a, uh, this is a text from, uh, Chris Felica [laughs] who says, "LMAO Crack 'He's a l- he's a legit guy, has a bunch of [laughs] bars and strip clubs- Is that what he said?... up and down the East Coast.'"
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[laughs] Well, I- I love that... Chris is right. I mean, I mean, but, you know, I'm just... And that's pretty legit to me. I don't know. Uh, J- Jamie, this is on, uh, Twitter now. Tweets, we get tweets.
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Jamie Leyva, uh, "Gil and Bill are a ray of sunshine on an otherwise cloudy day. Have a fantastic Thursday, gentlemen." Thank you, Jamie. That's very nice of you. You too. Very nice. Thank you.
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Uh, and then points out, uh, someone else pointed out here, James Fessler.
24:03
Good point here by James Fessler, who says, "Philly being the biggest Thanksgiving favorite, hosting Chicago, may limit the number of week one Eagle survivor picks that Fezzik is expecting." That is a good point. Yeah.
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'Cause remember, we, you gotta- That's true... you gotta save them, right? Fezz sent us a text, uh, off air there, which I'm, I hope I can repeat. Yes. He's right. I mean- You wanna read it?
24:24
Well, I never thought about the... Listen, n- n- Greg, thank you, Greg. Great, honest guy. Thank you for paying us, uh, paying Fezz more than me, but I never put that in the equation.
24:33
You're buying a team, piece of a team. You don't know if they're gonna pay you. It's not a contract. But I think you should have a contract- Yeah... or a lawyer. Here's, here's Fezzik's text.
24:41
I hope he doesn't mind us reading this.
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He goes, "Literally, I felt like I was, um- That I was talking the, uh, th- the gentleman off the edge off a cliff on a weekly basis when he was contemplating things like shoving all in with a pick 'em team instead of a five-and-a-half point favorite.
24:56
And hanging over me was the whole nebulous situation, as you pointed out, Bill, of a contract, which is emails and texts, nothing more. So yeah, I mean, there's, there's that.
25:05
If you don't n- and by the way, Greg is a wonderful guy, but you don't know him, right? Like, Steven, no, he doesn't know him personally. So what may appear to be a wonderful guy- Yeah...
25:14
I mean, s- believe us, we've, we've, we've lived long enough to know that some people are not appear as they seem. Um, Bobby Knuckles, by the way, about your appra- your, uh, what percentage do you get?
25:23
He said, "What percentage does the wife get if the entry under her name wins? Asking for a friend." It's funny sh- she, that, uh, Bobby, you're right, she hates doing that.
25:31
She's like, "Bill, I, I, I don't wanna do this." I said, "Listen, you have to do it. I c- I have no one else I can trust down here," you know? Th- there's, there's a price on things.
25:39
I mean, you win millions of dollars and, you know, 99.9% are running away, even if you're, you think they're close. Everyone has a number, and no one in this town that I know, you know, has...
25:49
I shouldn't say that, but bottom line, let me get to the w- with the question. My wife doesn't like doing that. I don't know why.
25:56
We file taxes together, even though I do, you know, itemize everything as a professional gambler, um, on top of, uh, you know, re- regular media income and stuff. She's like, "How about if I win in my name?
26:07
I don't want my name out there like I won this. My family and my friends'll think I, I'm cra-" I said, "D- don't worry about it, please. Just let me handle it. Just c- you, you're here.
26:15
You're com- get in the car, we're going to Circa and signing up for entries." [laughs] Get in the car, and the sound of Italian men romancing- Sorry. Oh my God, that's so sick.
26:22
The, the opening line- The Bronx Tale and the sound of- Of the Bronx Tale... and the sound- And I don't mean to sound like that. I'm not, listen. [laughs] And the sound of Italian men romancing their ladies.
26:31
That's right. Well, you know, speaking of which, now that you say that. Yeah. You, you remember Carbone from Goodfellas? They froze him in the truck. Yes. They put him on the meat hook. Mm-hmm.
26:38
Do you know, someone yest- two days ago, I was at lunch with somebody, and I know for a fact he's telling a absolute true story. Now, you know, that Philadelphia was crazy.
26:47
These doctors, there was a big hospital there and I forget the hospital, but doctors love to gamble, by the way. You know, it's amazing, you, their intelligence level leaves them when it comes to gambling.
26:59
By the way, that's, you could say that for most professionals and people that, that are in casinos gambling. These people are Wall Street guy.
27:05
Well, I, I'm not gonna use Wall Street guys, they have the gamble mentality to them already.
27:09
Professionals, doctors, lawyers, business owners, guys that are really, really in, highly intelligent, they actually lose that sense of intelligence when their gambling comes in. Isn't that fascinating? It, it is.
27:20
It's, it's- Yeah... that human condition. They just can't, they, the- Yeah... the chase is on, everything is on, credit lines are... He was telling me this story about these doctors, this group of doctors.
27:29
They bu- this one guy built the hospital in Philadelphia, and he's betting with the South Philadelphia bookmakers. This is the '70s. You know, there was no, there was no legal books.
27:38
So he's betting with the bookmakers, and, um, the b- the books were out here actually, but he, but he was betting back then. The guy lost so much money. He just lost, kept on losing, kept...
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They named the hospital after him, I believe even, um, built the hospital. He was such a nice guy, but he actually wouldn't c- he couldn't pay at the end. Now, this is the way- Jeez...
27:57
street, street bookmaker's supposed to work like this, in my opinion. You know, you, you took 300, 400, that's a lot of money, by the way. This is the real number. You took 300, 400,000 off the guy.
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Okay, he owes the last 50,000. You cut him a break and don't let me, you know, you just say, "All right, like, well, you can't pay no more." Of course, 'cause they knew- But they knew he was still a doctor. Yeah.
28:14
So they knew if he, he wasn't still a doctor making money, maybe they'd give him a pass. Instead, they had to threaten him and put him on a meat hook in a locker. Oh. I said, "Come on," they- Yeah...
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he goes, "Billy, they threatened him, put him on a meat hook. The next week, he moved him and his family to Florida and practiced down there."
28:31
Like, I was like, "Wow, that's un-" Like the, like real stuff, real stories like that. I, I almost probably thought it was, like, in the movies, but I guess, sure. Why are we moving to Florida, honey? Yeah.
28:40
Oh, no reason. Yeah, the, the weather. Yeah. It's too cold in Philly. [laughs] It's too cold. No, but I mean, I just was like, "Wow." He goes, "That really came from that movie, 1977 Philadelphia." Chris of St.
28:50
Barts, "Thanks for being so helpful on Twitter, guys. Do contest entries add to your comps or status?" They do not. Con- oh, they don't? The contest entries, just the- Yeah... just the news. No, yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oh yeah.
29:00
Yeah, they don't, no. No. Here they're not gonna anyway. Yeah. I got, I get nothing here. I get one, I get one tenth of, like, 1%.
29:06
I, I literally, I told you guys, and they know, I know it's g- a little ballsy saying it, I'm in the room here, but I don't, I'm, I don't care if they run me off here. All right, so they give me 2,000 bucks at Westgate.
29:16
Here I get 25 bucks for that same thing. Like, for every $100 I get at Westgate, I get literally 20 bucks. I'm sorry, for every $100 at Westgate, I get literally 20 cents here.
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The, I, I'm on the, I, I actually questioned the management here two weeks ago. Hmm. I said, "Listen, why is it that I don't get..." Now, by the way, I've never used a comp here.
29:38
I have 360 bucks built up since they opened the door. That same 360 over there is, like, 20,000. I mean, something like that. [laughs] And it just, uh, they have me on a wise guy page. But by the way,
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I really, this is gonna shock people, I really don't do a lot of betting at Circa. Why do you think that is?
29:57
Because if I bet Circa, they over move anything I bet, and the rest of the screen turns color 'cause the line makers at other sports books are told, "Hey, just watch Circa." It's the old Pinnacle. Yeah.
30:09
Just watch Pinnacle, whatever they do, you do. Circa, whatever they do, they're told you do. So if I bet a, a, a, like even a, a pre-season game I don't even wanna use 'cause they'll over- they'll really over move that.
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If I bet a, I'll use an NFL total. If I bet an NFL total on a Monday morning for the following Sunday, and if I bet s- under 56, you can guarantee Pr- Circa's going to 54.
30:34
By them going to 54, the rest of the screen goes to 54. Yeah. So I do not bet Circa, and, uh, I even, uh, told the management, I'm quest- I'm thinking about betting the opposite way a little bit.
30:45
You guys over move too much. Thinking about, uh, manipulating the line a little bit. By the way, this is an offshore thing that I do every day with tennis too, right?
30:52
Like, I will not bet them first at Bookmaker because it will move, and I wanna get it to, 'cause I, it, it, I'll get most down- Uh, through a, through another party, let's say, and that will be much more stealth, and then only at the end will I bet it at, at Bookmaker Yeah.
31:09
B- and, and to be real blunt, Bookmaker is under the Crisp brand. Yeah. And they will over move on certain things too, 'cause it's an auto mover. Yeah. And let me tell you something.
31:21
I, if all these sportsbooks in this town, not just here, all of them, why not invest in an auto mover? Maybe it's illegal or something, I don't know. Like, how, how can you not have an auto mover?
31:31
What that means is you take the bet from one person, so one person bets, you know, whatever, Detroit Lions plus three. He bets it, the auto mover moves it to one and a half on, on, on preseason.
31:42
Now you don't have to worry about getting double popped and triple popped and, and quadruple pop- These places offshore that Gil's talking about, these places have auto movers. They're lined very simply.
31:51
When someone bets it, it auto moves. And guess what? You could set it to each account. So maybe a guy's a total square betting 50,000 on NFL games, don't move it a penny, not one penny. Yeah.
32:02
But maybe someone sharp like myself or Gil or something, yes, it's set to move a point and a half or, or, or, or, you know, 30 cents on a money line on tennis. This will come up. This will be a problem next week when Dr.
32:12
Bob releases his college football season win totals- Perfect example... on Tuesday. Perfect. I can, you know, and Bob does a great job of nar- 'cause there's so many college football teams, obviously, right?
32:21
130 of them with season win totals. So before he will release them, he will narrow it to a range, right?
32:27
So you can move your screen to a range, and then you could, you know, it's gonna be one of these five teams, and you're right on top of the screen on your, on your laptop, right? You cannot hit it quick enough- Wow...
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before it's moved, like, 30 cents. Wow. Because s- because someone, I know who by the way, and I'm trying to implore him not to do this, because someone is hitting them on Bookmaker before other s- other spots, right?
32:49
Well, well how can he hit Bookmaker first if, if Bob's releasing an on release? Is it, he can't be getting it, if he, unless he getting it a couple seconds ahead of time. Well, it's, it, let me just put it this way.
32:59
I can't get there fast enough. Wow. And, and- It's, and, and by, and by move of juice, I mean, like, a significant move of juice. Well, let, let's be blunt. We're pretty e-enamored- Yeah... in doing this too. Yes.
33:08
So it's not like we're like someone that says, "Oh, I gotta try to do this," I'm a... No, we're ready to go bang. Yeah. But you're saying you can't even get to it then. Not in my experience.
33:16
Like, I remember where I was last year in, in DC. I happened to be in DC at the time- Yeah... of the release, and I just remember just being completely frustrated by it. Like, are you kidding me? Wow.
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Like I'm, I, I can't, I cannot move fast enough. Huh. Someone might, might be betting it with a bot. I don't know if you could even bet stuff like that with a bot.
33:30
You could bet rotation numbers, but someone might, might be hitting it with a bot or something though. Huh. Interesting. Good conversation. What other show can have these kind of conversations?
33:38
Bill Krackenberger, everybody, @billcrackman, the name of the podcast, again, Wisecracks. We'll come back, we'll recap all the bets as well next. [upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
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Back on The Numbers Game, live from Circa, Gil Alexander. That is Bill Krackenberger each and every Thursday here, uh, kind enough to come on the show.
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I have a couple tennis plays today on, uh, what has been the best tournament of 2025, for sure, from a betting perspective. Uh, I am on two today, one on the ladies' side, one on the men's side.
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Ladies' side, Barbora Krejcikova, even money versus Jasmine Paolini. Price is, uh, last I checked, was right around there.
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And then, uh, Ben Shelton, who you might even be able to get for a c- few pennies better, minus 149 is where I have him today against Jiri Lehecka as we, uh, continue with the business end of the tournament in Cincinnati.
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Paul Carr, uh, the day after all of his futures plays in the Premier League, he's got three plays on games this weekend. Man City given a goal and a half at plus 120 versus Wolverhampton.
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Nottingham Forest and Brentford under two and a half goals, and then Crystal Palace with a double chance, plus 135 at Chelsea. Those last two are on Sunday. The Man City game is on Saturday.
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Uh, and then Jordan Sherwood, UFC 319, main event, Dricus Du Plessis, uh, Du Plessis, pardon me. Dricus is how the Americans say it, but it's really Dricus Du Plessis, plus 190. Uh, big dog in the main event.
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Uh, and Jordan says, I asked the question, "Should we wait?" He said, "Yes, wait if you are about Du Plessis on this one. Wait, it will only get better before fight time tomorrow."
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Larone Murphy in the fight right before the main event, plus 180. No need to wait on that one. Larone Murphy, plus 180 prior to the main event.
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Discussions about- Good guy... discussions about, oh, he's the, the silent producer of Primetime Action back in the day, he said. Oh, wow.
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"Discussions about Circus Survivor between Gil and Bill should be taught in logic classes," wow, thank you, "and exercising critical thinking and analysis. Always learn a lot listening to them on VSiN."
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Thank you, Ryan, that's very kind. Joe C, "Only time I'll rewind the show is when Crack or Fezzik is on. Two best guests on the show." Wow. Thank you, Joe. Okay, Kelly and I are, uh, very offended by that, Joe.
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Oh, so sorry. No, we're kidding. Wasn't thinking of that angle. We're kidding. Kidding. Numbers Guys, "Fascinating conversation you have with Crack each and every week.
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My daughter, if you remember," oh yeah, I remember this. Says, "My daughter, if you remember, [laughs] was the one that dressed up as Crack- Oh, yeah... for Halloween." She had the same shirt. She was adorable.
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The, the same shirt that I bought from, uh, the- Uh, it's-... Cuba Vera. [laughs] It was so cute. How compelling does someone have to be to get an 11-year-old girl who knows very little about sports to do that?
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God bless her. She was in full, uh- Full Crack Gear. Uh, let's see. This is from friendly, from your friendly neighborhood capper, I'm gonna Ron Burgundy through this.
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"I have heard of sports books automatically limiting accounts that use," oh, "the Edge Boost card. Not sure it's great for everyone, especially if you're-" So in other words, if you- Yeah...
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you might be a wise guy coming in with that card. Yeah. But, but you're... Listen, they sponsored the World Series, they sponsored... It, it wasn't just, you know, here, so.
37:37
Jeff Isaac's best advice I got on line moves, "If it moves too much, just don't bet it. Don't take a bad number, just wait. Maybe a live opportunity opens up, or just move on. Love the Thursday conversation."
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Jeff, that is Sam. Bill, can I inter- interject there with that one, Jeff? Yeah. So you know what's funny?
37:51
Pre-season football opening week for all the, the street syndicates I know that, that, you know, are, are betting pre-season football, opening week was the first losing week like they had literally...
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Uh, they broke even once one, one week last year, one week... It's, I'm gonna say the little, you know, like in the last 10, the first losing... All the moves went down. Like Buffalo- Yes...
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plus three, uh, they went to Giants plus three, you know? And- It's not the week for steam. Yeah. Yeah.
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So actually, some of these things that move so much, I'm gonna give you, like, the Indianapolis Colts, uh, was a b- a plus one and a half, moved to minus seven at one time.
38:25
Uh, the Cincinnati Bengals was, um, minus one, went to seven and a half right here at Circa, went to seven and a half. By taking back the other side, and I'm not gonna...
38:35
Let's not use the first weekend really, 'cause it just, everything ran out the other side. The other side becomes the value sometimes. So like we've seen this morning, Miami was the hot side a couple days ago.
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Miami, Miami playing Detroit, and Miami was, uh, you know, pick 'em, and they went to minus three. There's even a couple three and a halfs on the board.
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It went so high that this morning a different group came back on Detroit plus the three or three and a half.
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So when these lines move so much, yes, especially pre-season, both sides are probably right, but even during the regular season sometimes, if there's over-movement, the other side could be right of the game.
39:14
Do you make anything? I know it's only one week worth of pre-season football, so take it for what it's worth. Mm-hmm.
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But, um, for those who are, and maybe, and maybe you count yourself as one of these people, who are really mesmerized by steam and it all went against that- Yeah... do you read into it at all? Do you- Absolutely not.
39:33
Absolutely not. Tomorrow's gonna be a big day for me in- Yeah... pre-season football. I'm waiting for a lot of first halves to come up, um, you know, Friday, Saturday. They, they come up the day of the game.
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So I am gonna be firing again with both hands, even though last week- But, but first half specifically. Well, first halves I- Yeah... I think I'm gonna be a little bit more into, uh, this week.
39:50
Um, but uh, last week I lost. I, I, I lost. I mean, yeah. Wow, someone coming on air saying they lose. I lost. I, I'm not used to losing in pre-season, so. But it, it wasn't only me, it was everyone that, you know...
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And, and we took some terrible beats. I mean, Buffalo plus three, losing that game was unbelievable. Um- Did you read anything... I know, I know the totals were lower last week- Yeah...
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but it's 14, including the Hall of Fame game. 14 and two. 14 and two to the over. Do you read anything into that? You know, I thought the games this week were gonna come up 41, 42, 43. Yeah.
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I was surprised only three games were a 41 and above. Yeah. They adjusted, but not, not a lot. Yeah, I thought they- Yeah... were gonna adjust a little bit more. Yeah. Um, but it gets tough. Like, a perfect example.
40:29
So everyone thinks week two the teams will play their starters much more than week three.
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But if you remember last year, a lot of these teams got grilled in saying, "Well, you didn't play starters at all during pre-season. Of course you guys came out flat week one, two, and three of the regular season."
40:45
Yeah, yeah. So, um, Mahomes. So Mahomes yesterday was with the... It wasn't even playing with the team, with the practice squad. That showed some people that, wow, Mahomes isn't playing this week. Yeah.
40:58
So I call up one of my main guys, say, "Listen, Mahomes with the practice squad here. I don't, I don't know if he's gonna play in the game." He said, "Trust me, uh, he'll play a series or two."
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Like he thinks he'll play a ser- Even though he's with the practice squad. But now that may even be wrong information. The right information will come out in the next 24 hours- Yeah...
41:17
when you have the beat reporters that are on the sidelines with the team, and you could see the mannerism, see the... Or maybe even get it from a, a coach or an assistant coach, or maybe even another player, you know?
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So that's why the beat reporters are very important to follow. Uh, they're very important to follow. Um,
41:32
I, I'll say this again because I think it's interesting, is that when it was four pre-season games just a couple years ago, and obviously in, uh, recent history, uh, we knew, right?
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Every team pretty much, without really exception, the way that they played it was they would ramp up the starters in week three of the four-game pre-season.
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Week three was the one where you could expect the starters to play the longest, and you could kinda count on that. And then week four was just, like, this free-for-all thing and you have no idea.
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W- Just removing one pre-season game, and you think, "Oh, it's just one pre-season game, how much different can this be?"
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What it did was throw it into utter chaos from team to team, 'cause every team plays it differently, and you don't know what they're gonna do until a beat reporter, like you said- Yeah... lets us in on it.
42:17
I think you have to... After w- last year, remember those first couple weeks in the regular season, I, I, teams were saying, "Let's just not get our players hurt." I think they need those reps.
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I think they need that verse a different team, not just the defense that's on your own team, which you guys all know each other. You don't wanna hurt no one or you don't wanna maybe go full strength.
42:33
You know, I, I think you need to play a different team. Well, it's also what I would, I would then say follows. It's also what we've talked about Survivor, we'll just bring it back to the beginning.
42:42
It's also what creates more chaos weeks one, two, and two of the regular season, one, two, and three, because they're not as w- you know, well-prepped- Right... let's say, the teams that decided to play.
42:53
Now, there's exceptions, right? Sean McVay of the Rams says, "I'm not playing anybody," works out okay for them.
42:58
But I'm just saying it makes the first couple weeks of the regular season, I would argue, that much more unpredictable. That's right. Okay. I gotcha. Because we don't, because we don't know- I gotcha...
43:08
if players are up to snuff yet, right? Yep. Now before we get off, I gotta tell you a quick story here. And, uh, so now this, this Vinnie Favorito documentary I'm, I'm part of- Vinnie Favorito. Yeah... I went to LA.
43:17
Yeah. They showed the premiere of it. It comes out today on, on Prime, Amazon Prime. I think it's six bucks, you have to buy it. What's it called? Um, Vinnie Does Vegas. V- you know, Con Man of Vegas. Yeah.
43:27
So let me just tell you something. It's gonna be a watch. I once had a second time, I'm so embarrassed by this, but I'm still gonna say it.
43:32
By the way, I, a lot of that, I'm, I can't believe how many times I'm in the movie, on the, in the documentary. So I see Vinnie about two months ago over at South Point.
43:40
He comes into town, he's doing the show, uh, downtown here in Indianapolis, and he's like, "Oh, Crack, I haven't seen you in a while." Meanwhile, he got me for 11,000 years ago. That, that was the number.
43:49
It, it's stupid. I, I, he got me for 11,000. But anyway, he sees me, he says, "Listen, I gotta get back home to Boston. Can, can you put a airfare on your card for me for $800?" He's almost in tears.
43:58
"And also I need 20 bucks for a pack of cigarettes." He's still... How can someone get me for 11,000? [laughs] I give him the 20 for cigarettes, and $800. Oh, no.
44:06
He goes, "I'm gonna send you the $800 Venmo as soon as I get back home." It's been two months. I have totally watched this. $11,000. It's been two months?
44:14
I, it's been two months for the 800, 800 bu- I charged him an $800 ticket to get back home to Boston. I still never got the money back. What, what was that phrase? Oh. Fool, fool me once, Bill?
44:22
No, I, I, I'm, I'm really an idiot to, to- Oh... I just tried to help the guy with 800 bucks, but the, the documentary's great. Vinnie Does Vegas, Vinnie Favorito on Prime.
44:31
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