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Aug 1, 2025
A Numbers Game | August 1, 2025 | Hour 1
A Numbers Game | August 1, 2025 | Hour 1
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The numbers told the story, they always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander on VSiN. Good Friday morning to you.
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It is a numbers game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, Sirius XM channel 158. It's Gil Alexander. It's Kelly Bidlin on a Friday morning.
0:22
I mentioned Friday twice already now. [laughs] We have so much to get to today. So much. Hey, it's a busy Friday morning. Yes, and because it's Friday, you know what that means, hour number two, Felika and Fezzik.
0:33
Kiris Felika, the Bear from Fox Sports, uh, or as we like to spell it, Kiris Felika. Uh, do you love that I always call that out? Yes, yes. Do you love it? It's great, fantastic. How do you like that? Thanks, Kelly.
0:42
Thanks for pointing out the, the spelling error. And Steve Fezzik, everything on his mind sports betting-wise. Felika will have all his picks across the sports betting landscape. Fezzik's got a seminar beginning today.
0:52
Yeah, he does. He's got a seminar today and tomorrow. I wonder if he's nerv- nervous. I wonder if he is too. Yeah, but he'll s- I haven't even texted him yet. "Steve, Steve, I'm gonna do my best.
1:00
I'm gonna do my best to make it." I gotta take the car in, man. What a sucky Friday. I got a horrible Friday ahead of me.
1:06
Like, just the car, the car with the engine light, like, you never know how bad that's gonna be, you know? How many hours, how many thousands of dollars. Sorry, Gil. Sorry to hear that.
1:17
Do you wanna talk more, you wanna complain more about that, or...? Just, just life, man. Okay. [laughs] All right. Life being life, you know? Just curious.
1:22
Uh, we, we will also in the first hour, uh, talk to our own Adam Burke, how he's feeling about, uh, the Guardians losing Shane Bieber, keeping Steven Kwan in the end. Mm-hmm. Um, and then Pete Buttigieg.
1:33
Wait a minute, you booked Buttigieg? Pete Buttigieg. Some college football with Peter Buttigieg from the Heartland. Looking forward to that. We'll ask him about, uh, [clears throat]
1:41
his, his big picture thoughts heading into the college football season. Um, where do we begin? Okay, let's, let's do, we got a bunch. One, tennis picks, let's get those out of the way. Yesterday, one and two.
1:52
Second s- consecutive day of a one and two. Uh, led by a set in all three of these matches, only got one of them home. Oof. Yeah, uh, yesterday, uh- Hey, what do you call this tournament?
2:03
If I was to say, uh- Oh, it's a great, it's a great bu- It's, some people call it the Canadian Open. I was destroying Zach for this, by the way, the other day. Some people call it, like, the Rogers something or other.
2:11
I just say- Well, it, it, it's, I think it's, I think it's technically called the National Bank Open. That's correct, it's a bank. There's a bank involved. The National Bank Open.
2:18
I just say the men are in Toronto- But then the Canadian Open... and the women are in Montreal.
2:21
And if you go to the sports books, which matters for our audience the most, it's usually, you're usually looking for ATP Toronto, WTA Montreal. I prefer talking about your engine light over this. No, I don't know.
2:33
It's men in Toronto, it's women in, in Montreal. I'm just trying to help people. For the Canadian Open. The o- Oh... the other one that I've caught that's confused people- Yeah...
2:39
is there's a lot of pe- a lot of books, if you're looking to bet NFL pre-season, a lot of books are listing it under a separate area away from NFL. So people are freaking out going to the NFL tab- Hmm...
2:49
and they're like, "I only see week one games." Why would they do this? I don't, I don't know. I, I don't know. DraftKings has done it. Caesars is doing it though. Like, you gotta go back and go to NFL pre-season.
2:58
Uh, three picks today, all on the men's side in Toronto. Wow. All at Toronto. Uh, Arthur Fils, plus 128 versus Jiri Lehecka, is pick number one.
3:10
Uh, Jakub Mensik versus Alejandro Davidovich Fokina, pick number two, he's at minus 101. And then, uh, Fabian Marozsan, plus 101 versus Flavio Coboli. Would you like to repeat those now? No. Flavio Coboli.
3:24
Uh, so Fils, that's spelled F-I-L-S, he's the dog in this of the three. Arthur Fils. Uh, yeah, F-I-L-S, Arthur, Arthur Fils. Young, great French player, but these, these are all great matches.
3:36
Mensik, uh, Mensik and Marozsan. Fils, Mensik, Marozsan, those are the three all on the men's side today in tennis. All right, um, baseball trade deadline yesterday. Um, everybody does the winners and losers thing.
3:51
I think we covered it pretty much, uh, as thoroughly as we could be 24 hours ago, because during the show Mason Miller went to the Padres. Among the big moves, Shane Bieber did go earlier to the Blue Jays.
4:00
But, um, you gotta, you gotta, if you're a Padres fan,
4:05
um, or if you're a Mariners fan, obviously the Mariners acquiring both of the guys from the Diamondbacks in Josh Naylor and then Eugenio Suarez, they gotta feel good about themselves.
4:13
Beat the Rangers last night six to nothing. Um, we'll see if this makes the difference for the Mariners. Um, still question marks for me in their, in their lineup, although that certainly helps.
4:24
At least they're going for it. I love to see that with teams going for it. I'm feeling great about my Tigers-Padres World Series matchup now. Hmm. It's 66 to one. Hmm.
4:33
With Mason Miller added to what is already maybe by some, maybe a folk's opinion, the best bullpen in baseball, so I love that. Um, you know, Mets and Phillies did very well.
4:44
If you're the Cubs and the Brewers, that was a little odd, a little, uh, non, uh, the, they were very chill compared to those teams. And again, I'm always- Good point. I didn't think about that, yep...
4:53
I'm always fascinated by the other side, I always talk about this, which is just imagine being a Diamondbacks fan or a Giants fan- Oh...
5:00
or a, or a Twins fan, and, you know, not even three quarters into the season, right? We're not, we're just shy of the three quarter mark. And you're, and you're definitely not completely out of it.
5:09
It's just, it's just such a funny f- it's just a funny feeling just to basically tell your fan base at this point, "Yep, this is the way this sport works, so, uh, let's all enjoy August and September together.
5:18
I'll see you at the ballpark." Yeah, no. Uh, although Twins did hang on to Ryan and Buxton, I guess, but Correa goes to the Astros. Anyway, uh, we talked about w- was something actionable or not.
5:28
I, if you're doing anything with the Mariners or the Padres, I would do them for beyond the division, al- although if you said, "Which would you do for the division?"
5:37
I would actually lean Padres to get there more than I would the Mariners. I think the Astros stave off, and then there's the Rangers in the mix in the AL West.
5:46
I do think there's a world where the [laughs] Padres overcome the Dodgers now in the NL West. Just, uh, so, so I thought it was- Okay...
5:53
I thought it was, basically what I'm saying is I thought that was a pretty awesome, based on where we thought we were 48 hours ago, I thought it ended up being a pretty good trade deadline.
6:01
Pretty exciting, uh, in the end. Baseball, did you see this game? There's only three games in base- To- Padres plus 750. You interested in just a little sprinkle? We talked about this yesterday. I may sprinkle that.
6:10
I may sprinkle that. I mean, it is, it's a three-game lead, and you're hitting over seven to one. Sprinkle me. Sprinkle me. Sprinkle me, Ming. Uh, the other thing, there's three games in baseball yesterday.
6:19
Did you see the, uh, did you see the Reds- Like, can I ask you one more-... Braves game? Can I ask you one more trade deadline question real quick? Oh, yes, please. Dustin May goes to the Red Sox. Yeah.
6:28
Is that, is that, is that a, is that a knock on May, or do the Dodgers, like, just have too much? They literally have too much that they can't even use this guy. Uh, they have too much. They have too much. Okay. Yeah.
6:35
And that's all I wanted to know. Yeah. It's incredible. Um, Braves and Reds yesterday. I was sitting in the, at the Caesars sports book with Todd, our buddy Todd Wishnev, uh- Do you have some comfy chairs?
6:46
Star of the Megapod. No, and it smelled like the chimney in there. Oh, no. For God's sakes. Were you at the bar? And, and that was, and that was just Wishnev. The rest... No, I'm kidding. [laughs] No, I'm kidding.
6:54
Uh, he doesn't smoke. So, uh, he had the, he had the, uh, Reds in this game. So it's three to three in the eighth, and the Braves put up an eight spot in the top of the eighth for those who missed this.
7:05
[laughs] And so Wishnev, he's like, "Ah, this game is over. Ah, this is terrible, it's terrible." The Reds then proceed in the bottom of the eighth down 11 to three. The first eight men get on and score
7:19
to tie it up at 11 with nobody out in the bottom of the eighth, and Wishnev looks at me- This is nuts... and he goes, "Watch, I'll still lose this. [laughs] This would be the greatest win ever. I will still lose this.
7:30
Why, Kelly? Because Hashem, of course," he says. So, uh, guess what? He lost it in extras. [laughs] 12-11. But anyway, I tweeted, I was like, "You could watch a million baseball games and this never happen."
7:40
Uh, Stuckey, who I've never met by the way, but Stuckey, who's been on Twitter and Sports Gambling- Yeah, oh yeah, yeah... for all these years, uh, he, he unearthed that there was a game in 2017 where there were
7:50
crazy eights, if you will, in an, in a frame, in a White Sox game. But those are the only two documented games in the history of Major League Baseball where this has happened, and then one of the two was last night.
8:00
It's amazing. That is nutty. I mean, that is... It, it's insane to see happen. And of course, like, you know, I, like, I have no idea what the live betting numbers were, but they had to have been out of control, right?
8:10
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, when you go down town that much, like [laughs] I wish I had looked. And how many people actually put a bet in, right? [laughs] Like... I just love that Wishnev. He's like- Like, like-...
8:18
"I'm still gonna lose"... this is like, like Todd's, like, declaring the game over. Not many people are gonna be like, "Well, let me rush to put in a money line bet right now."
8:24
The, I would've s- I would've told you the sportsbook was going crazy, but there was, like, 16 people in the sportsbook, so yeah. Really? It's a, it's a Wednesday, a Thursday night in the middle of, the end of July.
8:33
Yeah. I don't, I guess I don't really spend much time- Yeah... but, like, it's still Caesars Sportsbook. Wow. I, I don't know if you've heard, but occupancy is down in this here town of Las Vegas.
8:41
[laughs] Uh, and the other thing last night, of course, the Hall of Fame game between the Chargers and the Lions. Um, read into, you know, result what you will. Chargers rolled them.
8:49
Uh, Trey Lance looked pretty good, I guess. Do you wanna call Lombardi and tell him that Trey Lance looked pretty good? [laughs] He may wanna know. He may be interested in that information. Uh, [laughs] uh, yeah. Yeah.
8:57
Uh, Trey Lance looked awesome, I think. Yeah. Like, I don't, I, I'm not that guy who tries to... I, I never try to overreact to anything you see in preseason training camp. Of course not.
9:07
But, like, man, he had some throws. He had some throws. Well, I mean, you've, you, you, you've held the clipboard for all these years. This, this ought to be the moment, right? I was- Should be. Yeah.
9:17
I mean, look, and the big thing for us around here again, and this can't be emphasized enough, 86-year-old Brent Musburger, f- uh, co-founder of Decent- Oh, he was the, he was the star of the show...
9:26
um, Pro Football Hall of Fame's greatest recognition for a media award is the Pete Rozelle Award, for anyone in the media is the Pete Rozelle Award, and Brent is the recipient of that.
9:35
And, um, it's the annual prize awarded to a media member who exhibits excellence, Kelly, in and around the booth, both in radio and television. And good God, if that's not Brent Musburger, I don't know what is.
9:45
So Maria Taylor interviewed him before the game last night. Uh, he got some booth time with Collinsworth and Tirico, and, uh, it was great. Every time...
9:53
And by the way, uh, we had one tweet this morning from somebody already who was like, "Yeah, every time, every time Brent was on, they stopped. And whatever they were doing, they wanted to hear what Brent had to say."
10:03
He did a You Are Looking Live. He did all the greatest hits. Toss to break. Toss to break on NBC. Toss to break. And they had, had Tirico sweating because he was talking so much gambling stuff. Yeah.
10:13
He went, "Oh, did you hear the whole thing? It was fantastic." I did while Todd was... You know, when the moments where Todd shut up and I got to hear it. Yeah, I got to- Oh, it was amazing. Yeah.
10:21
It was ama- I mean, Tir- and Tirico clearly had the, uh, cl- had some NBC... Like, kind of like we were discussing yesterday- Yeah... with the music, right?
10:28
NBC producers were going nuts, and Tirico's here, and you could tell. [laughs] He was trying to, like, move it along. And it was like, "Nope, Brent's- Yeah, I mean, he said-...
10:34
Brent's gonna say what he's gonna say, man." What'd he say? He had the Lions and the Overs, something like that? Well, he was talking. He was just talking. Yeah.
10:39
I mean, they were asking him about the, about his roots, right, and him coming up. And, and he was just talking about how he, uh, used to talk about the spread, and kind of got the nod from the NFL.
10:47
Nope, you're no longer gonna do that. And then it's all come back around. Yeah. He, he, he told the story about how back in the day, the NFL Today, which he's told many times here on air, um, you know how
10:57
gambling was obviously verboten back then. And that's when they came up, he and Jimmy the Greek- Yeah... with the chart. You had the check mark chart.
11:04
For those of us a certain age, we remember that thing, the intangibles at the bottom. And g- and the Greek would have to say things.
11:09
He'd have to speak in code during the NFL Today where he'd be like, Brent would say, you know, if the Cowboys were favored by seven over the Skins, he would say, uh, "Do you think the Cowboys win this by a lot?"
11:20
And, uh, Greek would be like, "Yeah, I think they win it comfortably." [laughs] Which was code for they will cover, right? That's great. That kind of thing. So great. Anyway, uh, Brent Musburger, mazel tov, man.
11:30
Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome. And, and dude looks like he could be doing this for 20 more years. I, I, I, like, sounded great, looked great. The v- Miss Brent... the voice is, the chops are still there. Yep.
11:42
My goodness, the voice is fantastic. Uh, we'll come back more. Terry McLaurin, we gotta talk about Terry. Oh, and, uh, how do you like virtual replay last night? That's next.
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12:08
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12:36
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12:42
Just head to vsin.com/subscribe to sign up today. Um, we get tweets at Beating The Book. I haven't read through these. I love y'all though, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna just go through these. Ron Burgundy.
12:54
Uh, this is, uh, [lips smacking] Chris Heath, "I remember hearing My Guys in the Desert for the first time and that unmistakable smooth voice of Brent Musburger." Yes, indeed. Uh, Michael Salvino, "E40. Love it, Gil."
13:06
Yes, the E40, uh, reference, uh, was sprinkled me earlier. Ace Hunt, uh, "One of the best parts of Brent's appearances on Hall of Fame broadcast was the Joe Namath story."
13:15
Yes, with J- with, uh, Brent as a young man sitting next to Joe Namath. Joe just maxing and relaxing, guaranteeing victory for the Jets before Super Bowl III against the Colts. We had a- Yeah.
13:26
Ace said, "Never noticed he was right there poolside during the Super Bowl guarantee. What a legend."
13:30
Yeah, we had a, I don't even know what size, I'm gonna go three by four foot poster of that picture down in the VSiN offices- Yes... for I don't know how many years. We had it at the South Point too. At the South Point.
13:42
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh, Jamie- I assume it's still around here somewhere, but... Yeah, Jamie Leyva, "Ooh, ooh, ooh, here I be. [laughs] Clicked out me Sugar T from the V.
13:51
Uh, Gil always makes me smile when you drop lines from my youth. What are the chances Kelly caught that? Zero." No. "Looking good, gentlemen. Have a fantastic weekend." Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.
13:59
Uh, Torch D, the one who put the satin in your panties, he said, "Me as a bookmaker, what's this? The team Gil took for most July wins is playing his team for most August wins on the first of the month?"
14:08
He said, [laughs] "Mariners -1200." [laughs] Uh, the way that it's been going, I don't, I, I don't blame you. Yeah. Uh, let's see. Oh, DP, "Will you be able to recap your monthly August MLB wins bet?"
14:18
I'm on the Rangers 30 to 1. I've gone through reasons I won't go through, uh, here again. That's my play for the month of August, Rangers 30 to 1.
14:26
And as Torch D said, they do start, the series actually started yesterday, but three games, I believe, to, uh, to start it off here in the month with the Mariners. Um,
14:36
Del Mind the Gap Radio, "68 degrees in the northeast," he says, "Handicap accordingly." A little weath- weather report from him. What are you bragging? Huh? Huh? DFC- It's 112 degrees out here. That's right.
14:46
DFC Darth Vader, "Tell Kelly to take his car to AutoZone. They'll read the check engine light code for free in five minutes." [laughs] There you go. All this. Okay, I can see- See, I appreciate the help.
14:56
See, that was entertaining radio, Gil. [laughs] How dare you? And Christopher Lubesnick, "During the raid, did Gilbert Arenas explain to the authorities that his name is Mike Gawada?"
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[laughs] I don't know if that happened. These are all kinds of references. And lastly, uh, Prime Time, Cowboys_Cubs1, "Yo. Hey man. Despite your obvious flaws, being a Commies fan, the most egregious, I envy you.
15:15
Being able to call Brent Musburger a friend. You have my admiration and respect. Didn't have a penny on the game last night, but I stopped what I was doing every time Brent was on."
15:22
Yep, I think a lot of people feel that way.
15:25
Um, the other thing about the game, beyond the actual play on the field, not to get all sports talk radio, but it was the, it was the debut of virtual replay, National Football League. Yes.
15:35
How'd you, how'd you feel about this, Kelly? I would tell- Oh, loved it. Loved it? Yeah. Okay, I just wanna do this. G- give me just 90 seconds here. So I'm a tennis guy. You may have heard this before.
15:45
Tennis 2004, 2004, Serena's playing Jennifer Capriati. Oh, preach, bro. Go. Three calls go against Serena, she loses the match, quarterfinals of the US Open.
15:55
And tennis is like, "Yeah, we should probably do something about this." Mm-hmm. Once again, 2004. Yep. 'Cause remember, tennis's history- That's true... is guys like McEnroe. That's like 21 years ago. Right.
16:03
McEnroe, "Well, you cannot be serious," right? So that was a whole generation, that's all we had because of arguments.
16:08
So finally with the Serena match in 2004 against Capriati, they're like, "We gotta do something about this." So March 2006, Key Biscayne. Two years later. Only two. A year and a half later. Oh, a year and a half.
16:21
Yeah, March of 2006, Key Biscayne, first pro tournament, Hawk Eye. Okay? Revolutionized tennis because all of a sudden you knew if a ball was in or out, right? So March 2006, Key Biscayne.
16:34
US Open then implemented it later that year. There's like challenge systems at the time. They, they took years to work it out, but they implemented at the US Open 2006. Australian Open did it the next year, 2007.
16:44
Um, and by the way, there was a, there was a Federer and Nadal match at Wimbledon then at 2007 where they implemented it, and, uh, a call went against Federer, had to challenge a call.
16:53
It went against Federer, and he asked the umpire, he's like, "Can you remove the Hawk Eye system?" Like, that's how primitive it was at that time. Dude, we're talking almost 20 years ago.
17:01
The only f- the only, uh, slam, of course, Kelly, that does not have Hawk Eye is the French Open 'cause they play it on clay, and we like the umpires coming off the chairs and going, "Doop," right in front of the player.
17:10
So that's the only [laughs] it's ridiculous. It's, uh- So it's the only thing 'cause it's clay. I don't know. It's, it's so funny to me at this point that I'd be a little upset if they changed.
17:18
Just the, the umpire getting down and doing the little jog over is always so hilarious. Yeah. And so, I mean, look, and the, we don't even have humans in tennis anymore, right? The slams don't even have humans- Right...
17:28
besides the French Open. It's, it's all done by Hawk Eye. Here is the difference, ladies and gentlemen, this just in, everybody lean in, between tennis and football.
17:34
In football, right, unlike tennis, you don't get to see the ball all the time because there's players piled all over it. Sure. So, and by the way, they're not using it as a chip to mark out of bounds or anything.
17:46
This is just for first downs. Yes. So tennis is in or inbound, in, in the, on the court or off the court. So this is, is the ball, you know, I- is it a first down?
17:54
And you still start with humans when the ball is concealed in any way marking the ball.
18:01
So then when the Hawk Eye system is used in football It's still based on a degree of human possib- of human error possibility before that. So it's a little different.
18:13
Like, it's not a, quite the definitive thing that is the case in tennis. So it's like, it's, it's exciting, it's an improvement, but it's like, okay, everybody, let's pipe down a little bit. All right. All right.
18:23
Baby, it's baby steps, okay? Yes. It's the NFL and baby steps. Yep. And NFL is America, and we can't take anybody's jobs, Gil, okay? So we gotta be careful with that. We gotta keep those lines people.
18:34
Make sure they, the chain gang has their jobs. Uh, you can't screw that up yet, okay? We gotta ease this in, okay? So this is how it works. Okay. Just wanna, I just wanna put that disclaimer in.
18:43
'Cause people are getting all excited. They were trying to hype it up last time. I'm like, all right, everybody, let's, uh, let's act, uh, let's, let's define what we're doing here. It's gonna be...
18:50
There's going to be moments this season, though. Of course there is. There will, people are gonna g- get angry about something.
18:55
Oh, well, like, I think there's gonna be moments where, like, the, it's gonna look real bad for the human side of things, where it's like, "Hey, we spotted the ball here," and it's like, yeah, no, you missed it by, like, a foot and a half.
19:05
Just the, the nature of the sport is such that you can't fully u- use Hawk Eye to its full advantage. Okay, so the other part of that to, to your point. Yeah.
19:13
I, I also thought this was a little interesting, was just hear- hearing them go over the details. And I'm, mm, look, I'm sure all this has been out for months, I just didn't read this specific part anywhere.
19:21
They're like, "We have six cameras in action working to-" Yeah... you know, triangulate this. I'm like- It's a triangulation of cameras...
19:27
I'm, I'm like, oh, the NFL with all this money, six cameras is all we could afford? [laughs] I think there's eight. Only six? Like- I think there's eight in tennis, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah...
19:34
like, I, I, I was wondering how many were in tennis, so that, like, uh, if tennis has more than the NFL, that is, that's already absurd. Don't, don't hold me to that one. But everything else I said is true.
19:42
But if they do, it's ridiculous. Yeah.
19:44
Um, the other big football story yesterday, and, and Kelly and I talked about this on Monday when I first got back from vacation, like, first segment we launched, I launched into a Terry McLaurin thing.
19:52
So I'll just- Ooh... I'll just repeat it yesterday, uh, again, because yesterday, Terry McLaurin, the incomparable one, uh, as you know from, uh, from guessing lines here on The Numbers Game,
20:02
I mean, d- does anyone love Terry McLaurin more than I do? Uh, I was gonna send you a text, but I saw it, like, an hour late and figured you'd already gotten 100 of them. Oh, I got so many. I didn't wanna be that guy.
20:11
I... Listen, uh, uh, but here, I, I'll just recap what I said on Monday and I'll add to it, which is Terry McLaurin is going to be th... I, I understand both sides of this.
20:20
Terry McLaurin is going to be 30 years old in the middle of September when this season starts. Um, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, they're mid-20s, right? They're 26.
20:30
DK Metcalf, Brandon Aiyuk, those two guys who just signed contracts, DK Metcalf, 33 million a year extension. Brandon Aiyuk, 30 million a year. I think, I think we can all sort of agree, he ain't Jefferson and
20:47
Chase per the age, but Metcalf and Aiyuk, seriously? So Terry McLaurin is saying, "I should be making that kind of money. After all, I am face of franchise."
20:58
And by the way, he's the greatest guy in the world, and no franchise could ask for a better representative than Terry McLaurin. Um, and he says, "I should get that money."
21:06
And Adam Peters is acting a- as the GM of, of, you know, Washington, has the position, yeah, but you're not, but you're going to be 30, and when you do age curve stuff, I'm putting words in Peter's mouth perhaps, when you do age curve stuff, wide receivers tend to decline once they get to their 30s.
21:21
So I understand both sides. By the way, Skins fans, for 30 years we didn't have a, a living, breathing, competent GM. Now we get one, and what is the GM doing? He's GMing. Yeah.
21:32
So, like, you kind of have to be okay with that. And it's...
21:35
Listen, and Terry McLaurin's position, though, going back to his side is, "Yeah, I might be turning 30, but I'm only going into my," you know, what is it, his sixth or seventh year?
21:46
He only really played two full years at Ohio State- Mm-hmm... where he was involved in the offense. He goes, "So I'm not your average 30-year-old."
21:54
So these players, and this applies to Trey Hendrickson too, they only have two things that they can do, Kelly. They can either hold out or they can ask for a trade when they're still under contract.
22:06
And you can't hold out anymore.
22:07
The reason that Trey Hendrickson and Terry McLaurin are h- are holding in, if you will, is because remember back in the day when you held out, they would fine you 50,000 a day, 50,0000 a day, and then once you sign, they'd say, "Ah, we forgive your sign," you, you can't do that anymore.
22:19
Right. If you hold out now- You're getting dinged every time... you're getting dinged every time. Yeah. So that's why they show up. So the only other thing they can do is request a trade.
22:26
But it doesn't mean when you're under contract that a trade's gonna happen. I still feel, as a, as a Washington fan, that they'll work it out. They'll come up with some kind of compromise.
22:36
Um, if they don't, I'll be crestfallen. But they, I, I have every expectation that they will. It'll be a compromise, and this will blow over. If they don't, though, like, he's not getting traded.
22:46
He's not, they're not trading him anywhere. He's incomparable. What could you get back for him? By definition, you can't get proper compensation. Coming back.
22:55
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23:13
Kelly, Bill, uh, Ady sent me a copy of the unfinished episode one, the un- un- sort of, uh, it still needs a little more editing, but it's basically episode one. It's fantastic. The pacing of it is super rapid.
23:28
It's awesome. All right. There we go. 10- Let's go... 10-part documentary on the world's largest legal football contest. Follows contestants as they chase the $14.2 million prize.
23:36
Episodes air August 5th through the 9th, then again August 12th through the 16th, 9:00 PM Eastern on VSiN. For more, visit vsin.com/survivor. It takes us through all of, uh, Survivor last year.
23:48
And, uh, let me just say, episode one, the most prominently featured person, as it should be, the lovely and charming Stormy Bonatony. She is fantastic in it.
23:57
Uh, and the equally lovely and charming Dave Sharapan, our buddy. Mm. Those two, uh, that run the show. I managed to, uh, finagle my way into apparently l- you know, like a, a few little jab and moves.
24:07
I'm in there maybe collectively for 15 seconds. And of course, what do, what do I do in 15 seconds worth of time? What do I manage to do? I cursed Whoa, naughty Gil Like I just forget that I- This is your podcast.
24:19
I just- Calm down. I was gonna say, I was like, I thought I was on the Megapod or something. Jeez. Feels like you were anywhere. I forgot that I was on documentary.
24:25
All I could hear was my mom in my, my head going- Embarrassed your entire family. Really, Gibby? You can't think of better words? Yeah. You can't choose better words? You have to curse? Fe, gaol nefesh.
24:35
[laughs] Sorry, had to go Hebrew on you. That's what she would've said to me. The dump, question mark? [laughs] Circa Survivor, the quest for $14.2 million, uh, debuting August 5th, uh, this coming Tuesday.
24:49
Uh, we get tweets @BeatOfTheBook. I always appreciate the, uh, feedback from everybody. Once again, y'all are the best, uh, in the biz. JC, "Yay, area." Talking about the, uh, E40 reference earlier.
24:58
Bruce Dobingan, "In a time far away, I spent an afternoon at Aqueduct doing a TV Guide feature on Jimmy the Greek. He was losing and went mute." [laughs] "Nothing.
25:07
Asked him a Brent question though, and he suddenly had stories. Lifesaver." Oh, that's, that's great. Harold Irving said, "By the way, 68 degrees in the northeast and still no most wins in August on DraftKings," he said.
25:17
Oh, I thought they put them up last night. They're up, they're up at DraftKings. Yeah, they're up, Harold. I mean, if you've, if you've bet them there before, they're up. Joe s- You go to monthly specials, most wins.
25:25
There you go. Monthly specials, most wins. Uh, JoeC714, "With so many GOAT moments for Brent Musburger, all I think about is him take, uh, talking about H.A. McCarron's girlfriend during the national championship.
25:36
LOL, he's the GOAT." Oh, so many. Yeah, he is. Yeah, he is. You know, you know one of my recent highlights is, is from year one. Can you imagine?
25:42
It was, it was Al Bernstein, me, and Brent, and I ha- I, a little pitcher like me, had the audacity to ask Brent, "Hey, could you do my podcast? Just a one-on-one retrospective of your career."
25:52
And he said yes, and he sat with me for, like, over an hour, and I still have that podcast. I should, I should link it out. You should. Uh, beating the book with- You definitely should... Brent Musburger.
25:59
We talk about Eminem being high in the booth with him. Oh my God, I forgot about that. Uh, or that's not how they said it. And actually, Brent said that that wasn't the case, but we go through all that.
26:09
We go through, uh, NFL Today, stories about Phyllis George and, uh, Jimmy the Greek and Irv Cross and Jane Kennedy. It was awesome.
26:17
And then finally, James Fessler, Mizzou soldier, "Completely concur with you, Gil, in the NFL Insta spot.
26:22
I'm interested in how they're going to sync the whistle for forward progress being stopped with the constantly changing position of the ball. Definitely not as clear-cut as everyone thinks it's going to be." Yeah. Yeah.
26:31
Well, that will all be one, two, three, right? It's still gonna be forward progress whenever that whistle gets blown, then the human's gotta go spot the ball based off of that- Yes...
26:39
and then the computers will review the humans. It's junk in, junk out. Yeah, computers. That's how computers work. Yep. So if junk in, it doesn't matter in the end.
26:47
Pete Fewtak, ladies and gentlemen, joins to talk some college football from the heartland, courtesy of the Progressive Gas Line. You can follow him on Twitter @PeteFewtak, F-I-U-T-A-K. Peter, happy football.
26:57
How you doing, man? I, I don't mean to, you know, disagree with your mother, but there are no better words than swear words. [laughs] They're the best.
27:04
They're the absolute best, and they work, uh, not all the time, but y- a, a finely placed one, perfect, that you absolutely need them. Well, I appreciate it. My mom is shaking her head at you as well.
27:16
I'm on the Gil, I'm on Gil's side on this. I'm on Team Gil on the, on this one. Sometimes you need to emphasize a sentence. Yeah. Who is, who is this friend of yours who agrees with you?
27:24
[laughs] Uh, Pete, college- He's neither lovely nor talented either. Uh, [laughs] Pete, college football, let me just talk about some big, big picture questions.
27:33
Uh, let's start with, I'll tell you just, just anecdotally, this off-season, and we've heard this in other years, not every year, but other years, where folks are, are wanting to sort of put Penn State in the conversation of the very elite.
27:47
Is this the year where you can put Penn State up or above the Ohio States and the Alabamas of the world? As I keep saying, they all went to the Final Four last year. Hell, I mean, they're already kind of elite.
28:01
Um, if it was anybody else but Penn State with, you know, the history of not being able, recent history of not being able to beat the Ohio States and the Michigans and stuff, they would be everyone screaming number one this year.
28:13
Last year it was kind of obvious. I mean, I, you, I was, you know, annoying you all year last year saying, "It's Ohio, Ohio State's gonna win the national title. It's, you know, there's no point in watching the season."
28:21
They were the best, way better than everyone else. Penn State's better than everyone else for right now, mainly because they've got the, the starting quarterback who's been there for 12 years.
28:31
They've got most of the talent back. They are the most complete team.
28:35
And for all the dogming of James Franklin, the only other guy who's been around as long as Franklin has at one school currently co- in the college football coaching world who has 70% more of a, of a better of a winning percentage is Dabo.
28:49
So Franklin wins a lot of games. He's got the team, and remember last year it's like, oh, you know, Ryan Day can't win at Ohio State the Big One, and Jim Harbaugh couldn't win the Big One.
28:59
This is the best team in the country. Now let's... They got the best schedule. They got a joke of a non-conference slate. So let, but they're gonna get to the college football playoff.
29:08
Now you gotta get pa- past the Final Four, you at least play for the national championship.
29:12
On a scale from Ewing Galilei to completely meeting all the hype, where is Arch Manning gonna be on this spectrum when all is said and done?
29:21
Uh, as always, he's gonna fall short 'cause everyone's expecting him to be Peyton and, uh, Eli all wrapped up in one. I will say this about him. I have not heard a single negative word about him.
29:33
Usually, in the little sewing circles of college football world, there's always something like, "Yeah, this guy's kind of a jerk. He's kind of..." There, everyone loves this kid.
29:41
He's bas- He's essentially the most chill kid possible, has a great, you know, s- Manning-like sense of humor. Uh, very just self-dep-depre- depre- depreciated, dep- nice, depreciation.
29:52
Uh, he's good at, he's great with all the teammates. Every coach loves him, and he's fast. I mean, everyone kind of forgets, Eli could run in college. He didn't do it in the pros, but he was a pretty good athlete.
30:03
Peyton, not so much. And Arch seems to have a, the, all the mix and blends of Mannings plus, you know, from birth, having the Manning family teach you how to play quarterback.
30:13
He seems like the perfect fit quarterback, uh, especially for a team that, you know, I, let's see if this all can play through. I mean, he's still gonna have, uh, errors. He's still gonna have mistakes. He's still new.
30:23
He only played four games last year as a starter against, like, UTSA and Louisiana Monroe.
30:28
So there's still gonna be a problem, especially at Ohio State to start the season, but as far as a, a prospect, yeah, it's all there. Arch Manning, of course, the short shot to win the Heisman at plus 650.
30:37
If we throw those odds up there for you, Pete, where's the play for Pete Fewtak in the Heisman market?
30:42
Uh, I'd s- I'd, speaking as the person who still doesn't quite believe that Travis Hunter is ever going to win a Heisman Trophy, um, I, I[laughs]
30:51
The, the play is tough because there aren't the starting quarterbacks this year. I mean, look, you know, Garrett Nussmeier, I mean, half the college football world doesn't know who he plays for quite yet.
31:00
Cade Clubnik, I mean, he's a, he's a brand name.
31:02
Jeremiah Smith, I'll do my Travis Hunter thing and know he's not gonna win the Heisman 'cause his stats aren't gonna quite be there, unless he goes absolutely off on Texas, uh, in the opener, and then he's the odds-on favorite.
31:14
Uh, but most of these quarterbacks are on teams that aren't gonna win National Champion- come close to winning the National Championship or even their Conference Championships, and a lot of them are new guys who don't have any experience.
31:23
So it is a tough year to handicap this. Uh, it's gonna have to be the guy who's got the big stats and the big plays. I think,
31:31
looking at these stats right now as you kind of have them, I think Carson Beck is gonna be good. He's be- he, everyone forgets, he was talent-wise supposed to be the number one pick in the draft.
31:42
Lot of drama around him, lot of other, you know, aspects to his game that everyone's gotta overcome.
31:47
Uh, but talent wise, he's got number one overall pick skills in a Miami offense where he might not be Cam Ward right out of the gate, but he might be just as effective. You and Felica, I believe, are simpatico on that.
31:58
Didn't Felica love Carson Beck? Uh, Felica's in on Beck, yep. Yeah, same reasoning. Uh, all right, before we go- That's my Miami Chris Felica, though. He loves everything about South Florida. Yeah. So.
32:06
Uh, he's pretty good about that. I know he went there. He's great about it. Yeah. Um, okay, before we go, give me the team, and let's, let's, let's go to the actual team around the country.
32:15
You can go to any conference anywhere, uh, not among the usual suspects that are named at the top of college football. What's the team sort of under the radar that you feel is primed for a very, very good season?
32:29
Can we say Indiana again? Yeah. I mean, everyone just assumes, oh, well, their schedule wasn't all that great. They destroyed everybody.
32:35
I mean, everyone forgets that, okay, yeah, your schedule wasn't amazing, but they ble- blasted through everyone.
32:41
It wasn't their fa- they played the two teams that played for the National Championship the year before, Washington and Michigan. Beat, blew out Washington, kind of easily got by Michigan.
32:50
Their one major sin, they couldn't get by, you know, the elite of the elite in the college football playoff. Okay, they were still really good.
32:58
They return just about everyone and, and probably hold serve at quarterback, and Kurt Sigaty is ju- just that good of a head coach where I, they're not gonna win the National Championship, they're not gonna win the Big 10, but they might be right there in the college football playoff.
33:11
They might get the 10 wins again. Which is the team among the usual suspects at the top that you're not buying? Texas. Uh, until Steve Sarkee- There's the guy.
33:20
I mean, everyone wants to rip on James Franklin for not winning the big one.
33:23
And until Steve Sarkisian can prove that he's not gonna melt down in a key moment, uh, in a big game, uh, you look at that Texas schedule, there are three losses potentially there.
33:33
And if you don't get to 10 wins, you're not getting to the college football playoff. Pete, great seeing you. We will talk often, sir, as the college football season, uh, ramps up and then actually starts.
33:41
And curse words. Let me know when I can throw a curse word in there too. [laughs] You may not. It is not allowed. But thank, [laughs] but thank you for asking. [laughs] Pete Fiutak, everybody. @PeteFiutak on Twitter.
33:50
Adam Burke on the other side, managing editor on baseball and more, next.
33:54
[upbeat music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
34:11
Back on The Numbers Game live from a circle resort casino, downtown Las Vegas. Kind of, uh, sped through that. A numbers game, name of the show here at VSiN. Gil Alexander, national- Kelly Bidlin, everybody, alongside.
34:22
Producer number nine. Hey-o. So much more than a producer. So much more.
34:25
Kelly's going through, uh, the VSiN YouTube page, uh, analyzing, uh, the little still shots they have of your face, and you're not very happy about it, are you? Uh, no, I wouldn't say that. Oh.
34:35
It just, uh, Chris managed to, uh, catch me at a moment, I guess, where I was really fired up about something. Yeah, that's fair. I look very angry in a, in a, in a, uh- Somewhat profile shot...
34:42
some would say impassioned about some stuff. Yeah. VSiN YouTube page with all kinds of, uh, videos from our past shows. Just another way you can take in VSiN. That's right.
34:51
Um- It's a, it was a great teaser clip, though, 'cause guess what, Gil? I'm gonna have to go watch it during the next break 'cause I'm, I don't know what I'm so angry about.
34:58
[laughs] Glad you're locked into the show, Kelly. Uh, Adam Berg joins us now. Always a tough booking. He is VSiN managing editor and, of course, part of the whole glue that holds this whole operation together.
35:07
One of the great Twitter handles of all time, @skatingtripods. Joins us now courtesy of the Progressive Guest Line to talk about multiple things. Adam, good morning to you, sir. Hey, what's going on?
35:18
You know why I'm a tough booking? 'Cause Kelly never texts me to ask to come on the show. [laughs] So what do you have to say for yourself, Kelly Bidlin? It's fair. I sparingly do. That's fair. Adam's a popular guy.
35:28
There's certain guys on this network that are popular, okay? That's true. That's true. We're trying to be respectful of your time. I get it.
35:33
But listen, when, whenever you can- I don't care about Adam's time, but, you know, it's just- Uh... Network can't be all Adam Berg. Our, our house is your house, Adam. Let me ask you about a couple things.
35:42
One, you of course, um, and I know you, you are a humble guy and you give credit to others as well, but you are always integral, uh, maybe the chief guy for every single betting guide that we put out.
35:54
College football, we are on the cusp of that betting guide, yes sir? Yeah. Tuesday, August 5th over at vsin.com, only available to VSiN Pro subscribers.
36:03
So if you aren't one, become one, 'cause it's a really, really good guide. All of our guides are good, but, you know, I think this one's really, really strong because you have 136 team previews.
36:12
But unlike a lot of the other previews that are out there, we don't have to worry about access to coaches or SIDs or players or anything like that. So we can be honest.
36:21
We can be very honest about these teams, what their expectations are for the upcoming season, and I think that type of unfiltered content really is a benefit to anybody out there who's going to bet on college football.
36:33
So all those team previews, like I said, we add Delaware and Missouri State this year to the FBS ranks. 29 season win total bets from Steve Makinen, a preseason top 25 from Matt Humans.
36:44
Other feature articles, best bets from our VSiN hosts and contributors, uh, including Mr. Gil Alexander. Kelly Bidlin texting me and saying, "I don't know anything about college football yet." Mm.
36:54
So, uh, you won't see Kelly in there, but I'm sure Kelly will know plenty as we go throughout the season here on our Numbers game.
37:00
Listen- But get that guide over at vsin.com Tuesday, August 5th, the 2025 College Football Betting Guide. The man guesses college football lines on this show every week. I, I was going to add on- Yeah...
37:10
to promote the thing. Yeah. That it, it is, it in, in my opinion, the most useful guide that we do because all these players, uh, move around- Yes... teams and everything. Yes.
37:19
I have no idea who's playing anywhere, so I pull up the Vsin betting guide. By the way, that's a serious question, is, is that, has that sort of made when you put this out, uh, had determined when you put this out, Adam?
37:32
No, I mean, you know, look, the thing that's really tough about this guide is you, we put the NFL one out on July 1st, and you know, the last three years we've put it out either the last week of June or the first week of July, and it only gives us a four-week turnaround basically to put out the college football guide.
37:46
And to Kelly's point, and I mean, look, there were a lot of guys as I was researching, I wrote up four of the conferences plus the two independent teams.
37:53
As I was researching, I was like, "Oh wait, that, that guy's not there anymore? Well, where's he at now? Oh, he went there?" Yeah. "Well, who went he..." Like, it's crazy, you know, to try and keep up with the portal.
38:03
And keep in mind too, I mean, a lot of these guys changed programs in mid to late December.
38:10
So you know, if you're not paying attention throughout bowl season or the NFL playoffs or everything else that's going on, like [laughs] this is a really good refresher of who has actually changed places, changed locations, not just players, but also coaches.
38:23
There's 29 new head coaches this year, and I wrote those up in the guide as well.
38:26
So to Kelly's point, I mean, this is probably the most impactful and most useful preseason guide that we do just because of all the player movement and trying to figure out who went where.
38:37
Can you give us one of your favorite bets from the guide that you provided? Yeah, I can give you a couple of them. Um, I don't know why Liberty is a plus money price to win Conference USA.
38:46
I mean, they are far, far, far and away the best team in that conference without question. And the second-best team, the consensus number two team, Western Kentucky, they don't even play them during the regular season.
38:56
So the only way they might run into the Hilltoppers is if they play them in the conference championship game. So I like Liberty quite a bit.
39:02
I mean, I realize Kaidon Salters a good player, transferred over to Colorado, so he'll be with Dion this year. But I don't think he was a great fit for what Jamey Chadwell wants to do on offense.
39:11
Now Chadwell has a Coastal Carolina transfer in Ethan Vasco, who he recruited to Conway when he was there. We know what he did with Grayson McCall, obviously.
39:20
Now he has a quarterback that can run his system the way he wants to run it, as opposed to being such a run-heavy offense like Liberty has been the last two years. So I think the Flames are gonna be better this year.
39:31
I think they're actually gonna live up to those expectations that we placed on them last season, and I think they win Conference USA. I think plus 125 is a great number on them.
39:39
Then my favorite win total is Western Michigan over five and a half. A team out of the MAC, obviously people don't pay attention to the MAC unless it's MACtion and they're playing on weekdays.
39:47
But I think Western Michigan really improved under Lance Taylor. It's year three for him. Goes back to his Notre Dame roots for his new defensive coordinator, Chris O'Leary.
39:57
I think Western Michigan's a very underappreciated team in the betting market right now, and over five and a half wins can actually be had at plus money.
40:04
I think they make a bowl game, and not only that, I think they could be a dark horse challenger for the Mid-American Conference this season. Hmm.
40:11
Was Liberty consensus, by the way, just off the top of your head in, in our expert's grid to win their conference? Y- yeah, I would assume so. Yeah. I think we had about 22 people polled or so. I'm guessing,
40:24
I, I'd have to go back and look, but it's probably 18 or 19 that have Liberty- Okay... something like that. So not quite unanimous. Um, okay.
40:30
To baseball, um, you're a perfect guy to talk again, on a, on a day after the trade deadline. Cleveland Guardians guy, Adam Berg.
40:37
Adam and I are oppo on the Guardians season win total pre-flop here, and I look up at the standing, it's so amazing. Uh, you know, Shane Bieber goes to the Blue Jays yesterday.
40:46
It's obviously on the heels of the Emmanuel Clase and Luis Ortiz, uh, gambling matter. Those two guys suspended till at least August 31st.
40:54
Steven Kwan does stay a Guardian, and yet I look up at the standings, Adam, and they're 54 and 54. Like, just go away already. My God. How do... Who, who is the winner or loser for you in all of this trade deadline?
41:07
Uh, well, well, I mean, I, the, look, I, the Guardians missed an opportunity because of Emmanuel Clase getting suspended. I mean, the market for relievers yesterday, over the last three days really, has been very robust.
41:19
Yes. Uh, and to not have Clase, who they...
41:22
They, I, I think they absolutely would have moved on from him, but I mean, also they seem to think that they're still in this thing, and if you watch them on a daily basis like I do, they're not a good baseball team.
41:32
I have no idea how the hell they're 500. I really truly don't know. Um, but look, I mean, I think, you know, a couple of the big winners here, I mean, obviously Philadelphia and New York, right?
41:41
I mean, you get a Yoan Duran, he sets up everything for your bullpen. But I really like what the Mets did here at the trade deadline. Ryan Helsley's really good.
41:49
Tyler Rogers gives you a much different look as a submarine right-hander. And Cedric Mullins is a big upgrade over Tyrone Taylor.
41:55
So I think the Mets really improved in three very key spots in a race that's extremely tight. So I still kind of prefer Philadelphia just because I like their rotation a lot more.
42:06
But for the Mets to get clearly better and not give up any of their top prospects in the process, I think that was a really, really strong trade deadline for them.
42:14
Also, the Cubs didn't get any household names, but I love what they did. Willie Castro can play all over the field. Great depth guy to have on a team that expects to make the playoffs.
42:24
You can match up, you can pinch hit, you can pinch run, you can put him anywhere on the diamond. Really, really valuable asset for a team in a spot like the Cubs are. Mike Soroka's a guy, 487 ERA, but a 322 expected ERA.
42:37
Nationals were a bottom five team defensively. Cubs are a top five team defensively.
42:42
So Soroka gets a really big upgrade behind him, and he's a top 25 guy in strikeout percentage among pitchers with at least 80 innings thrown this season.
42:51
So I really like those two moves, plus Kittridge is a guy that can slot in anywhere on the bullpen. Same thing with Taylor Rogers.
42:58
So I think the Cubs and the Mets, of the playoff contenders, uh, you know, got definitely stronger. I mean, obviously the Padres did too, but they paid a very, very high cost to do so. Yes.
43:09
So I can't call them a trade deadline winner, but for 2025, they certainly got better. Yes. I think all of that is true with the Padres.
43:16
Gave up a top three prospect in all of Major League Baseball, but yes, for 2025, whew, that team is stacked right now. Um, anything in, on the baseball slate today that you played? Uh, it's a rough one.
43:30
I mean, there's a few blanks. Not sure exactly who's gonna start.
43:33
I will say one of the blanks that's out there, and maybe there's been a little bit more clarity on this over the last, you know, 15 or 20 minutes or so, I think Shane Smith is coming back for the White Sox tonight.
43:42
That's kind of the expectation as he's coming back from an ankle injury. I like them against the Angels.
43:47
I mean, look, you know, if you're an impending free agent, you've got a very good chance at being traded at the trade deadline.
43:53
I didn't hear a peep, not a single word about Tyler Anderson, the starter for the Angels here tonight. Uh, 411 ERA, 454 expected, 511 fifth. Nobody wanted this guy.
44:04
Or maybe the Angels have fooled themselves into thinking that they're actually a playoff contender. But either way, didn't hear a word about him.
44:10
So obviously evaluators around the league don't think that there's any upside in Tyler Anderson. The White Sox ridiculously are a top five offense in the second half.
44:20
I don't know how, but they're playing really well right now. I like them at a plus money price against an Angels team that continues to be in purgatory.
44:27
Adam, super appreciate it, man, and again, congratulations again on another betting guide well done. Yeah. I can say it in advance, college football betting guide coming out in a matter of days. Thank you so much, man.
44:38
Thanks, gentlemen. Have a good one. Adam Berg, everybody, @skatingtripods on the old Twitter machine. Yes, please, his Guardians, go away already. [upbeat music] 500 baseball still somehow.
44:48
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