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Aug 28, 2026
A Numbers Game | August 28, 2026 | Hour 1
A Numbers Game | August 28, 2026 | Hour 1
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[upbeat music] This is VSiN, the sports betting network. The numbers told the story. They always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
1:11
Good Friday morning to you. It is a numbers game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course Sirius XM Channel 158. It's Gil Alexander.
1:22
That right there is Kelly Midlin. Hey. Patten. Nada mucho, Gil. You good? I'm great. [laughs] Fantastic Friday morning. Yeah, man. Danny's last day. Danny Higgins' last day. That's how we'll remember this day.
1:34
The farewell tour. I'm genuinely... Hey, look- Yeah, me too... selfishly, selfishly, selfishly genuinely bummed. Of course. And as- He's been a major part of the show over the past year. Gonna miss him...
1:45
as his, as his friend, good for him. Absolutely. Do- We're happy for him... do your thing. But, uh, it's Danny Higgins' last day, so if, if, you know, if things start to go wrong on Monday, you'll know why.
1:55
[laughs] That, that, that's right, and if, uh, if you're here for, uh, contest weekend and you hope to run into Danny- That's right. Nope. Gone. No, no, no chance. I think he's, uh, he's got the- Ghost...
2:05
the car's packed in the garage, I'm pretty sure, and as, as soon as this show ends, he is on his way to Montana. Ghost. He's outta here. Again, people should look into the whereabouts of Eva Jovic.
2:17
She's supposed to be at the US Open. Maybe she's in Montana, just saying. Yeah, we'll see. Could be. Could be. On the show today, Paul Carr, Prem picks.
2:24
I think he went two and one in the, uh, debut, the debut of, uh, Premier League picks this year. But you know what the one loss was? Oh, I do. Hull. [laughs] Hull City. [laughs] Two and one.
2:37
Eh, we'll take the two and one every week, though. Chris Felica, triumphant return to the show today after what feels like he was about a month off from the show. Yeah.
2:44
Chris is back from his, uh, Alaskan cruise with his lovely wife. College football, soccer, horse racing, Felica is just ready to fire. And he's gonna be actually, uh... He's gonna do two segments with us.
2:55
He's actually gonna come a segment early. Like Crack did yesterday, he's gonna come at, uh, well, later this hour, and then he'll bleed over into the next hour. Jason Lisk in studio for Survivor talk. He is, yep.
3:05
Jason Lisk from Bet Labs, uh, gonna talk Survivor. These guys wrote the book on Survivor. Not the actual book, but you know what I mean, figuratively speaking. Uh, all his tenants in Survivor, Jason comes armed.
3:17
And then it is Fezzik Fridays starring Steve Fezzik, who, um, i- are he and Brad Powers fake fighting, or are they actual fighting on, actually fighting on Twitter? You...
3:27
Oh my God, that's such a great question, 'cause I've caught, like, a couple of those. I never know with those two. And, and I don't know. They, like- They have the strangest relationship.
3:33
Yeah, and I don't really know Brad that well, so- I don't either. Yeah... yeah, I've thought the same thing. I don't know. We'll get to the bottom of that. Anyway, Stevie, Stevie has week one NFL play. Ooh.
3:42
I don't know if it's plural. I was about to say plays, but I know it's at least one.
3:45
He's got season-long thoughts, which sound awfully familiar to stuff we've been saying 100 times here, but, you know, with Stevie it, it's, it becomes his thought. So he's got a thought. You know what I'm just realizing?
3:55
Did, did I miss the Steve, uh, novel text message? Oh, yeah, he just sent it to me. Oh. Oh. 'Cause he, I don't know if he... I don't know, maybe he didn't know you were coming back. Okay. Yeah.
4:03
So he gave me a hint of what he's t- he's talking about. It's, uh... Oh, God, he's got thoughts on college football. Whole bunch of stuff from Fezzik today.
4:10
I mean, he's all over the place, so we'll talk to him in the final hour of the show today as well. Um, can we give a shout, before we get into... Also, can we give a shout to Stormy?
4:19
The great Stormy Danitoni, co-host of Money Moves here on the network. Did you see this tweet she put out? Sure did. Man, yeah, that one, that kind of went viral, didn't it? She... Kind of.
4:30
She has, like, 7 million views on this thing, and what she, uh, she was very curious. She, she just said... By the way, if you and I do the same tweet, we get maybe 3,000 views [laughs] each.
4:39
But Stormy got 7- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah... Stormy got 7 million. As much as I love Stormy, this is not the first time I've seen this type of thing tweeted. I agree. But, but it- But it's Stormy...
4:48
it's Stormy, and it took off... and who doesn't love Stormy? Yeah.
4:50
So, um, she wanted to know, but she was genu- genuinely curious about people in media, and specifically sports media, their, their salaries they used to make at the beginning of their careers, and every human being in sports media has responded.
5:03
Yeah. I saw Zab was in there. Everybody. 'Cause we all, we all have the same story. It's like she laid- Everybody has the same story... she laid it out well in the video. Yeah.
5:09
And I don't, I don't know if that's picked up more of... if they're...
5:13
I, she, she must be f- feeling like she's running into more people just expecting- It's, it's on the trending on the right column trending, people in sports media and like- Yeah, but, like, she must be running into more people that are expecting to just get paid way more, I guess, like, fresh out of...
5:26
I mean, all- Well, I think-... all of us that worked in this business have a, a very, very small salary story to tell you about our first- Yes, we do. And then later Kelly and I will tell you ours. Yes.
5:34
Um, I think the genesis was because maybe... I, it was Will was telling me, like, she's m- mentoring someone in school, and so- That would make sense. Yep...
5:42
they would use it, yeah, as a, as a sort of guidance, guardrails kind of thing. Mm-hmm. Anyway, shout out to her. Great tweet. I think every VSiN tweet in the history of VSiN combined may, may not add up to that.
5:53
Yeah, [laughs] maybe not. Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. Uh, okay. Yesterday baseball was a short baseball day. It's a short slate anyway, so not much changed in the, uh, the August standings.
6:02
So this is the final The final little stretch here, right? This is this weekend and Monday. That is it.
6:09
And with only four days left, you won't find e- this, I can't remember this being so strange in terms of games left, 'cause you would think, "Oh, every- does everybody have four games left?
6:17
And if they don't, they have three games left." Actually, the Red Sox have five games left. They have a double header, uh, tomorrow against the Yankees. So the Phillies right now, leader of the clubhouse, 17 and 7.
6:27
Remember, dead heat at William Hill Caesars. Tiebreaker at Circa. Fewest wins if you have the same amount of wins. Uh, fewest losses, pardon me, if you have the same amount of wins, followed by best run differential.
6:37
Phillies right now 17 and 7, four games left, current odds minus 145. Padres one win back at 16 and 8, and then the Red Sox and Rays and Brewers all with 15 wins, 15 and 9, 15 and 9, 15 and 10.
6:51
But the Red Sox actually get an extra game. It is a double header, as mentioned, so the Red Sox aren't really two back.
6:59
They're more like in terms of their, their controlling of their destiny, they're more like they're one win back. So it is a, uh...
7:04
And the Red Sox, as we said, the three years we've been doing this, we've never had a back-to-back winner. Red Sox try to do that for the first time. They have the best run differential of the month again. That's wild.
7:13
Yeah. I know, I know Mark said this the other day, but now I'm just pulling up schedules. We're this close, four games left for Phillies and Padres.
7:20
I mean, it's, it's Rays, Rays for the Padres on the road, and Angels for the Phillies. That minus- Yep... minus 145 price is actually looking pretty attractive. Yeah, but it is baseball. Funny things happen.
7:35
So there's that. Congratulations to all who are involved in that.
7:38
And, uh, William Hill Caesars already has their August, excuse me, their, uh, September numbers up, and we will talk about those on Monday, because as Kelly learned yesterday after the show, August has 31 days in it.
7:49
That's right. That's right. Now you know. PSA. Do you like me to tell everybody what we had to do after the show yesterday? Yeah, you can do the knuckle thing. And Kelly was con- It was r- it was really effective...
7:56
Kelly was confused about numbers, days, and months, and I gave him the old thing that I used to teach, uh, Gracie when she was little. You put your, uh, your hands together, two fists together.
8:04
Every, every high knuckle is 31. Every indentation is less than 31. That was actually pretty good. Yeah. Whatever rhyme that everybody goes with, I never, I never understood that.
8:13
Kelly then followed up with a question, "Hey, when it's not 31, is it always 30?" I had to just make sure real quick on that one, okay? You know what? I'm gonna use the same- Florida State University, everybody...
8:21
I'm gonna use the same defense I brought up yesterday. It's fine. Uh, at some point we all stopped looking up at the sun to try to figure out what time it was, because we had clocks- True... and watches, okay?
8:31
There's just always been a calendar in my face. Mm-hmm. Okay? I don't really feel like I need to know these things that often. Except for when it comes to betting on monthly wins in baseball. That's right.
8:40
Uh, yesterday, winner in tennis, Ignacio Burzaco. So, uh, hope it, uh, nice l- hoping to continue a nice little run into the US Open. Today, only one play in the Fakkakta Strange Tournaments right before the US Open.
8:54
Draw was yesterday, by the way. Drew Dinsick, Zach Cohen, and I doing the, uh, US Open p- post draw podcast today after this show. Looking forward to throwing that up. Nice.
9:05
And we'll actually talk about, uh, my quarter thoughts here momentarily. But today, the only play is Nikola Bartunkova +112 versus Elise Mertens. That is in Monterrey, Mexico.
9:17
Shout out to Ryan Pineda getting, uh, getting confident with the player cutouts. Yeah. 'Cause I, I would be like, "That could be anybody. I have no idea." Can I make an off- awful comment? Sure.
9:27
Doesn't Nikola Bartunkova, who is pictured there on the right, doesn't she look, uh, isn't she a dead ringer for Haley Joel Osment? I, it's just because she's... I mean, see what you mean, but I mean- No, no, no.
9:38
Any picture of her. Oh, any picture of her. Dead ringer. Right. If she, if she said- And then she was looking down... if she goes, "I see dead people," you'd think it's him. Wow. Yeah. Okay.
9:47
Anyway, I'm on her against Elise Mertens. It's the only play today in tennis as we look to, uh, continue the run-up to the US Open. Uh, shall we, I know we're supposed to do country club in next, next segment.
9:58
Oh, mother of God, you're right. But can I start with this? 'Cause this, I mean, you're gonna- Yeah, sure... you have golf to talk about, so we better get into it. For sure.
10:05
Um, oh, can I, can I also say just shout out to Jay Cohen yesterday. Mm-hmm. Again- Mm-hmm... Bill Krackomberger for making it happen.
10:12
Jay Cohen, one of the three founders of, uh, World Sports Exchange, very honest I think he was yesterday. I thought it was great. Yeah.
10:20
I don't know if everybody loved his answers at the end there, if you know what I mean, but- It is a- Had to ask... just a bizarrely fascinating story.
10:28
Um, I, you know, we've talked about it a lot with the prediction markets and kinda, and just the legalization of sport with s- some of the sports books, DraftKings, FanDuel, and it's just some of these things are just when were you trying to do it, right?
10:41
Yep. Uh, timing. Timing, timing, timing. It's incredible. It's just incredible how one story can be, uh, the result of one can be so much different than another. Okay, let's do the, let's squeeze the men, men's in here.
10:52
We'll do the women's quarter odds. So the quarter odds are out. Shout out BetMGM. I'm not sure who else got it out, but BetMGM was the first here in Nevada to do so.
11:00
Um, and again, when the state gets real sports betting, when they legalize it, it's gonna be awesome. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Uh, I don't have, I don't have any play in quarter number one here.
11:10
This is the Sasha Zverev quarter. I would've loved to have played Rafa Nadal, but the, the, you know, everybody knows already, right? So he's only +240, so there was no play for me here in quarter number one.
11:22
I think Nadal and Zverev are absolutely the two men to beat here. Lorenzo Musetti historically has, has great hardcore numbers, but he hasn't been his best. He was his, at his best
11:34
this time early this year, calendar year. Quarter number two, uh, I do not have a play in quarter number two either. This is the Taylor Fritz, Felix Auger-Aliassime, Jakub Menšík, Menšík, uh, quarter.
11:47
I know that, you know, we're gonna talk to Drew and Zach on the podcast. I know they love Felix here. Taylor Fritz, by the raw hardcore data, is properly priced. He has better raw hardcore data than does FAA.
11:58
You know what? I meant to ask you guys about him the yest- uh, the other day, 'cause I feel like it was a lot of- Man, they love him Who does? Drew and Zach. Fritz? No, Felix. Oh, oh yeah. Oh, you're talking about him.
12:09
Yeah, I was g- I was, I was just gonna say Fritz feels like the one name I'm a little surprised I haven't heard really anybody mention.
12:15
I mean, I can't see him winning, and I know Zach was like, he wouldn't be surprised if he did.
12:18
I can't see him winning, but his, just I'm just talking on raw hardcore data, Taylor Fritz six month, one year, better than that of Felix Auger-Aliassime. But no play for me here 'cause I think it's all properly priced.
12:28
I will have a play in quarter three, and then a couple plays in a couple women's quarters when we go country clubbing next. And you got some golf too, right? I will update the Tour Championship, yeah. Okay.
12:39
We'll do that. We're country clubbing kind of guys. It's a numbers game at VSiN, the sports betting network. [upbeat music] You're here because you want an edge.
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13:57
Start for as little as 9.99, or save 50% with a VSiN Pro annual subscription. Head to vsin.com/subscribe now. That's V-S-I-N.com/subscribe. Kelly and I were just talking off air, um, we talk about random things off air.
14:10
We were talking about when you were a kid, you were- Yeah... you were fascinated by voiceover stuff. I just, it's always been a job I, I've respected. Uh- Yeah... you and I have talked about this many times.
14:19
We know people in the business. One of my good friends is a, a voice actor for his entire career. It's, it's stupid lucrative if you, if you- Stupid lucrative, yeah... if you, if you get the right gig, yeah.
14:28
He works about 17 hours a week, complains about working too much sometimes, and we're like, "Dude, you went in an audio booth for 42 minutes and, like, took, took, collected- [laughs] It's a-...
14:35
a five-figure check and walked out." Like, come on, man. Unbelievable. Uh, but the, yeah, like- It's amazing... you brought up the movie guy, and it was just even, like, I don't know who does that.
14:43
But when we were eight, when I was eight, nine years old, it was like, I don't know w- who does this job or how you get it, but it's one of the coolest things ever. His name was, like, Don LaFontaine or something.
14:52
They did, like, a Dateline piece on him. But he was the guy who was like, "One man," right? That guy who did all those. Yeah, yeah. "One man against the world." But, but I have a similar story.
14:59
Wait, and anybody who grew up in, in the DC area, please someone corroborate this for me.
15:04
At Dulles Airport when I was a kid, Dulles being the international airport in Northern Virginia, there was a PA announcer for every flight, and I must have been, like, seven, eight years old.
15:14
And he would, and I just did this for off air, but he would be like, "Lufthansa Airlines Flight 471 to Stockholm, all aboard please," right? And I remember- Oh, man...
15:24
just being like, "Oh my God, this is the coolest thing I've ever heard in my life." Yeah, man. I just think it- That's awesome... uh, and it's gone, but, you know, no one has a PA announcer now in an airport.
15:34
It's also just, like, it's what, that one specifically- Yeah... I love because they, you could do that job and not take that much pride in it, and clearly that guy took a lot of pride in it. He never made a mistake.
15:44
Never. It's fan- He's, and he never stumbled anything. It's fantastic. Love that. Anyway, I need corroboration from somebody. All right, we doing this? Let's do it. Country clubbing for real this time. Let's go.
15:52
[upbeat music] Oh, yeah. Danny's last day in the club. Danny Higgins, we miss you. Oh, wait. The Dan- Oh, he's still here? The Dan dance is one, one of my favorite Danny Higgins memories ever. Explain that to people.
16:04
Basically at a bar like this, uh, and I just, I just spotted him across the way and just, uh, he was really f- he was vibing, feeling himself at the bar.
16:12
And he was, he was getting a drink and there was a couple ladies on either side, and yeah. Right. That's the key. And he was just- While, while talking to ladies. While, whilst talking, yes. Whilst, yeah.
16:21
And uh, it wa- kind of it was a, it was a hi, and you know, it was kind of snaps, this little snap and shoulder move thing, you know? We have a, we have a picture of that somewhere, don't we?
16:28
I, uh, I have a video of it- Oh, we have a video... from, from, like, 200 yards away across a bar. There it is. Farewell, Danny. Can we show that one more time? Let me throw that up there. There it is.
16:37
Our beloved Danny Higgins. He's the one with the beard, not the Kelly beard, but the other beard. What is that on, what's that on the left? Where is that?
16:44
Uh, that, that's, uh, apparently the best picture in, in my phone of us at the NBA Cup, where you and Danny- Yeah... are looking right at the camera. I don't even know who took this. Darnell maybe?
16:55
Uh, looking right at the camera, and somehow everybody else is not. And I keep forgetting that Andre was with us. Has anybody ever gotten a farewell like this, like Danny has? I don't, I don't know that they have.
17:05
Yeah, no, I don't, I don't think so. Producers one through, uh, through eight, I don't think they got a farewell like this. There's the great Wyatt Tomchek basketball game. Yeah.
17:14
Wyatt Tomchek calling, calling the UNLV women's game. The great Kelly returns to golf game where, where he destroyed Team Isaiah and Danny. All right. Let's continue with the United States Open, men's side.
17:28
Again, Drew Dincic, Zach Cohen, and I will do the US Open podcast here, which will be available for download. We'll actually do it live on Twitter as well. Yeah. Uh, 2:00 PM Eastern, 11:00 AM Pacific.
17:39
Quarter number three is where I do have a bet on the men's side. This is Novak Djokovic. Novak Djokovic's quarter, if you will. He's plus 175, trying to get his 25th Men's Singles Grand Slam title.
17:53
Good God, just think about that. Uh, you know where, guess where my bet is here. This is, again, I do all mine raw data based on surface, six month, one year. First of all, this is the best quarter just from...
18:04
So there's some, a lot of dudes in here I like. Big, Big, uh, Big Foe is in this one. Yeah. Brandon Nakashima, who- Okay... got to the, uh, finals in Montreal is in here. I always ask you about Big Foe.
18:14
I'm gonna guess you would say he's too, he is too short here at six to one. I'm gonna go with- You went with Matteo Berrettini 18-1 I did not. I went to, I went with Daniil Medvedev. You did?
18:26
Yeah, who's playing not ha- he's not happy with himself. I don't know if you saw his last match. They had him on the, uh, on the bench there screaming at him.
18:32
He's like, "Maybe I should just go play pickleball, double with Jack Sock," like he's talking about how bad he's playing tennis. Okay. He won this tournament, though, several years ago.
18:41
I took Daniil Medvedev 8 to 1 to win quarter three. I didn't think you were that high on Daniil heading into this. Okay. I wasn't, and then I perused through the numbers and I'm like, "Wait a second."
18:51
Well, like, shouldn't he... My, my basic tennis mind would think he should be shorter than Tiafoe and Nakashima.
18:58
Yes, and he should be, but because he played so poorly and made such a stink about it, he doesn't handle losses well. I'm in with you. In with you on that one for sure. 8 to 1 on Medvedev.
19:07
Uh, quarter four, I don't have a play, and so that was my only quarter play on the men's side. This is Carlitos' quarter. Uh, this is the quarter of hell.
19:14
Ben Shelton, Arthur Fils join Carlos Alcaraz, and so does Tommy Paul and Jiri Lehecka, not to mention Alex Bublik. Man, I hope we get an upset here.
19:23
Oh, you know who the, you know who the real sneaky freaky brother sneaking in from the rear is in this, in this quarter? Cicipas.
19:28
And if it wasn't so packed I would actually play it, is Thiago Agustín Tirante, 40 to 1, because that dude has the greatest, the most powerful serve on tour. Really? Oh, yeah. It's ridiculous.
19:41
But, but it's too- Wait, have you bet him? That's like a- Oh, I bet him lots of matches last week and the week before, and this week, I think. W- we bet him, like, three days in a row last week. Oh, okay.
19:48
Or was it this week? I can't even remember anymore. Maybe, when was it? Last week. Last week. Tirante. Tat. Yeah, 'cause Mack kept going, "Tat." Oh, I wasn't here. Yeah. I was gonna say, this is, like, a new name for me.
19:56
Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was last week when you were gone. But it's too stacked- Tat... so I didn't make the play, but he's 40 to 1 to win that quarter.
20:03
I hope somebody bets him and he wins, but I, I did not, because it's Alcaraz, and it's Shelton, and it's Fils. But he's the, uh, he's the sneaky guy in the back. Okay, women's side.
20:12
Women's side I have two plays in, uh, two respective quarters. First quarter, number one, um, this is Aryna Sabalenka's quarter. World number one, plus 105, but guess what? Something's going on between her ears. Oof.
20:26
But she's got Marta Kostyuk in here, Linda Nosková, Diana Shnaider. What do you think my bet is here? Oh, Taylor Townsend's in there at 28 to 1. Who, who do you think my bet is? You know what? I saw this one.
20:36
Oh, you did? Yeah. Barbora Krejčíková, 12, uh, excuse me, 15 to 1. You know, I'm a fan of Barbora. I don't think I got 15. I, I got 14 to 1. I didn't get 15 to 1.
20:46
I got 14 to 1 at MGM, but these are the DraftKings numbers. But I took Barbora 'cause she's a r- she is a great,
20:52
she's a, she's a long forgotten, she just, people don't think about her as one of the better players, but she's won [laughs] she's won two Slams, and she is the toughest out ever.
21:02
I got Krejčíková at 14 to 1 here in quarter number one. Quarter number two on the ladies' side, and again, the podcast, you, you'll hear everything that Drew and, and, uh,
21:12
Zach have to say, and w- I'm not sure we'll be aligned on anything. Quarter number two, this is very simple quarter. It's either Pegula, Muchová, or Svitolina.
21:21
So yeah, the, the only other player who's, who can be like, "Hey, what about me with my numbers?" Is Kerstijn, but really it's, it's, it's mano a mano a mano. Pegula, Muchová, Svitolina. Pick your poison there.
21:31
One of those three is winning that quarter. What happened to Emma Navarro? [smacks lips] Um, she peaked.
21:38
She had s- she's complained about thyroid issues, health issues, but she's, she has her moments, but she ain't winning this. Leylah Fernandez too, I guess. Yeah, Leylah. That f- that feels like it's been a while.
21:47
All right, Q3. This quarter right here is a fascinating quarter. Quarter number three is where I made my bet. I bet on Amanda Anisimova- Hmm... at 4 to 1. She is the third shot here. It's Coco's quarter.
22:03
Coco Gauff plus 175, Mirra Andreeva plus 330, then our girl Anisimova at 4 to 1. Now, here's how this quarter breaks down, and I know Drew is super high on Coco, and I think Zach is too. But
22:15
on our half with Anisimova, it really comes down to Andreeva versus Anisimova, and I think we win that. Coco's problem, for as great as she's playing, is she has three pesky players on her half of this draw.
22:29
And by pesky, I mean, like, if you handpicked three players that could be more annoying to her, Alexandra Eala, who the c- who if ever there's gonna be a crowd that's not on Coco's side, it could be for Eala. Yeah.
22:42
Iga Świątek, Dani's girl, and Sara Belek. Those three at 6 to 1, 12 to 1, and 18 to 1. Now, I bet on Anisimova because I steer clear of that balagan on that side. First time ever using balagan on the show, I believe.
22:57
Podopova and Badosa down there too, huh? Yeah, don't, uh, d- don't bet on them. Bartyskova is actually the most interesting down at the bottom. Look, hamburger's in there too, but I don't give her any chance. Ostapenko.
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And then finally, quarter four is Iga's quarter. If you were to ask me, who is the, if Gil- Iga gets beat, who's most likely to beat her? Hey, Gil. I'll just answer it that way. [laughs] Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
23:18
Uh, if Iga loses in this quarter, who's most likely to beat her? That is a great question. Or who's most likely to win the quarter?
23:24
Well, I think Iga's the most likely to win the quarter, but if anybody's to beat her, I would say it's the winner of the Osaka-Bencic match.
23:30
If this wasn't Iga's quarter, I would say Bencic at 12 to 1 is probably the best value, but I didn't bet it. Um, R- Yeah, we made some Bencic bets last summer. We- R- oh, made Bencic bets a lot through the years.
23:40
But Rybakina is the problem here, right? She played Iga in Cincinnati, and she walked off the court because she had a calf/Achilles injury. So I would not trust anybody who thinks, "Hey, man, I should bet Rybakina."
23:53
You're doing that with that knowledge, and I don't think that's, like, sort of a sound bet. Even, even if she ends up being completely healthy, I don't think you can really trust that right now.
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[upbeat music] So anyway, three quarter bets. Medvedev in Q3 on the men's side. Krejčíková Q1 on the ladies' side. Anisimova Q3 on the ladies' side. Let's go. Golf update coming up next. Chris Fallica, Paul Carr.
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24:46
It's Gill Alexander. We get tweets, beating the book, best listeners ever. To- uh, Superjerk chimes in this morning. Oh, Superjerk. What's going on, man? He, he said, "Listen, you guys are bums. Have a winning weekend."
24:58
[laughs] Thank you, Superjerk. You too, Superjerk. Appreciate it. Todd Hoyer, "Hi Gill. Uh, I've enjoyed your book talk segments recently. Have you ever thought about writing a book?
25:07
Early gambling podcast pioneer," thank you very much, "working with Dr. Bob, Sloan Conference, R&B, the interesting stories you've told about your folks-" Great question... et cetera. I'd read that."
25:17
Well Todd, thank you very much. I'm, I'm, I'm thrilled to know that you, you would read that. Um, would m- would m- m- I mean, look at the Jay Cohen book. That, that's a book. Yeah, come on.
25:29
I- That's like a crazy story That's a book. I don't know how many people would be interested. I really don't. I, I think you could change your mind in the next five to 10 years. Okay, that's, that's possible.
25:39
But look at Chrissy Andrews. I mean, look at that life. Mm-hmm. That's a book. Eh, you know. Sure.
25:44
I, we, hey, we're, we're working, and especially you even doing this before, like we're working in a very, very, very fascinating time of sports media- Yes, we are... with the combination of betting into it. Yeah.
25:57
I'll have a Wendy Williams chapter. I'll have a Donny Simpson chapter. Oh, great. Jamie Buckle, "Did I miss the mega pot on the US Open? If not, when's it gonna be out? Love the show, guys."
26:05
Again, 11:00 AM Pacific, 2:00 PM Eastern, Jamie. We'll do it live on Twitter. We'll also have it in podcast form after that. Thank you for asking. Drew Dins, Zach Cohen, and I.
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Brad Magnus, "No shame in Kelly not knowing which months had 31. Please tell me he knows which one has 28." Yes, I did on that one, okay? You know, sometimes it's 29, Kelly. That's right, and I knew that too. Yeah.
26:24
Colin Murphy, "Perhaps we should be, uh, changing the name of the show to AKG, A Knuckles Game,"
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based on- I don't, I don't wanna give Gill too much credit, but that, that was the best little trick that I've ever, I've ever seen. You, you are welcome.
26:36
We really should've had a camera on though, 'cause it, it, it looked like, it, it looked like my dad was like c- walking- [laughs]... walking through a seven-year-old, like how to like remember this.
26:44
Speaking of a seven-year-old, when Gracie was, uh, seven or eight years old, you know what she said? She said, uh, yeah, I, how I remember the months, she said, "Uh, Jason Derulo."
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She goes, "January, February, March, April, May, June, Jason Derulo." [laughs] So apparently if you have Jason D, it works out. July, August, September, you know? That's pretty good. Yeah. I was like, "Huh, clever."
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Jamie Leyba, "I see Haley Joel Bartelkova. I can't unsee it now. Also, I'm still bugging out about people not knowing the Shock G reference, Kelly. Anyway, weekends were made for Michelob.
27:11
Have a fantastic day, gentlemen." Thank you very much. David Shalimore, "Could, uh, Stormy," he goes, "This is so true."
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He goes, "Yo, Stormy could ask people to post their grocery list, and she'd get half a million tweets. Good luck, Danny." So true on both counts. The good luck Danny part as well.
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Icegoon, "My first paying job in the industry, Pennsylvania," what did he say? Oh, a PA, pardon me, a PA at ESPN in Bristol. In 1991 I got paid $7.50 an hour, no benefits. I did an unpaid internship before ESPN."
27:41
Icegoon, that, that mirrors some stuff for me too. Uh, Paul Carr knows a little something about being on ESPN. He joins us now courtesy of the Progressive Guest Line. Uh, Paul coming off a two and one last week.
27:52
We'll get to, uh, three more plays. Which one does involve Hol- uh, does involve Hull City again. Paul, good morning to you, sir. What was your first job in media?
28:01
First job in media, running the board at WIBW Radio in Topeka, Kansas for seven, $7.50 an hour, something like that, back in 2002. Wow. Yours?
28:13
Mine was a newspaper for $24,000 a year as a sports, high school sports staff writer, and then I did about 30 hours of unt- unpaid internships e- each week over at a ESPN Radio affiliate.
28:25
I did three summers of unpaid internships. Do they even allow unpaid internships anymore? No, they do not. They legally do not.
28:30
Um, and then $5 an hour production assistant, Music Video Connection, CBS affiliate, Washington, DC. It's one of the, that, that, that ended up in lawsuits over the internship stuff. Yes, it did.
28:41
And I will tell people, I, and I think that a lot of other people feel this way. I loved it. I thought it was great. I, I would not be here without th- my 30 hours- You totally agree... a week of unpaid internship.
28:48
Totally agree. Yeah. I can add, I interned at the, a local TV station in Topeka a couple summers, unpaid. Loved it. It was great.
28:57
You know, I'm going to shoot semi-pro baseball games and high school volleyball, whatever, and stuff like that. I, that was not the direction I wanted to go, but the experience was great.
29:08
I was like, "I got to do it, get my foot in the door," you learn stuff about the business and realize, "All right, what other directions are out there for me?" Yeah. Mm-hmm. Uh, that's how it was back then. Yeah.
29:15
Unpaid internships. Mm-hmm. There was no, there was no talk of, of compensation.
29:18
Anyway, good on Stormy, because I th- I believe the genesis of this is it, it's being used for educational purposes for those trying to get into media that, hey, this is how it was, this is kind of what, what you might expect early on.
29:30
Um, so good on her for doing that. Paul, uh, two and one last week. The loss, though, we have to say, was on Hull City. [laughs] Ex- ex- explain. Yeah. What happened? What ha- happened there?
29:41
Hey, the worst team ever in the Premier League, as some were projecting them, uh, went and beat Manchester United 2-nil. Yeah. So, uh, I had the wrong team covering one and a half on that one.
29:50
Well, you- Hey, we're gonna go, we're gonna go back to the well again. But I was just about to say, you- We're gonna keep fading Hull City... you're gonna go back to the well. What do you got? Coventry versus Hull City.
29:57
You're taking Coventry here. I am. We got two newly promoted teams here. Uh, one of them lost 3-nil in the opener, and the other one won 2-nil. So I'm taking the one that lost 3-nil. Makes sense.
30:06
That's Coventry against Arsenal. Uh, it's the first home game for Coventry. Again, newly promoted, first time they've been in the Premier League in a while, so it should be a rocking atmosphere there.
30:15
Hull won 2-nil, but they really didn't create that much. It's the old smash-and-grab job where they had, they scored two goals off set pieces and had almost nothing aside from that.
30:25
So I'm not convinced that, oh, Hull's gonna definitively stay up. Maybe they're not quite as bad as I think, but I think Coventry is still a better team.
30:34
They're at home, getting close to- Even money at minus 115, I will take that. [laughs] If, if Hull City wi- wins this one, oh boy.
30:42
Oh, oh, oh, oh, we're- Oh, they're gonna win three-nil or something and- It's, yeah- They're gonna hit the points over by November. It, well, it might be, it might be a short sweat for us, Paul. It's okay.
30:50
It's okay if that happens. Yeah. I, uh, so I need some help here because a week ago, Gil- Mm-hmm... I would have said these are two teams I have actually never heard of in the Premier League.
31:00
So is this like- They're, they were, they were, they were, came up, right? Both of them. They were promoted. Yeah. Yeah, they were promoted.
31:04
So is this like, um, should I, should my angle, Paul, be like a both teams to score no or something like that? Or like is it an under? Uh- You know, like, I feel like there's gotta be something... it's hard to say.
31:14
I mean, I feel like it, this will be a little more open. It's definitely, you know, it's... that's the cliche in these relegation battles is it's gonna be tied, someone wants to win one-nil. Mm.
31:23
I, I don't think that's gonna be the case. Again, it's hard to say because they're newly promoted, teams have changed a lot.
31:27
But I think, A, Hull's defense just isn't that good, and Coventry will kind of go for it, especially at home. Uh, but again, they're not, they were more of an attacking team.
31:35
So looking to show that here, but maybe the defense doesn't hold up. So I, I would lean toward this being more open, but I don't have a, a play from that front. [laughs] I'm, I'm totally not making fun.
31:46
I always say with, like, Todd Wisniewski, like, Todd Wisniewski plays that he voices but then doesn't follow up with a bet are, like, five bajillion- [laughs]... in one lifetime. Kelly's the o- Right...
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Kelly, the opposite for Kelly is if you can talk Kelly into a bet in less than 10 seconds- It's toast... it's like- It's dead... oh and 5,000 lifetime. [laughs] And Hull City, Hull City qualified as that. Or some others.
32:08
Rutgers. He was on Hull Ci- City to finish last before I finished sending the text. Yes. Exactly. Oh, I was placing the bet at c- oh, yeah. No, no, the, Will Hill will always have the most famous one.
32:17
It was Rutgers- Rutgers, yeah... with Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper. [laughs] Was it 500 to one f- 200 to one? To win the Big East, was it? To win the Big Ten tournament. Big Ten tournament, correct. Conference tournament.
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Yeah. I was like, two lottery players on this team. In, in. [laughs] That's great. All right, Coventry to beat Hull City, let us pray. Also on Saturday- Yeah... Tottenham's taking on Newcastle.
32:38
Where'd you, what'd you do here? Yeah, Tottenham, Newcastle are both, you know, two teams that, in theory, should be vying for the top six-ish spots. Uh, but both had a ton of turnover in this off-season.
32:48
So Tottenham lost their opener three-nil to Brentford. It could've been worse. That hit the Brentford bet for us, which was nice.
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But optimistically for Tottenham, they didn't start probably half the guys who will start when they, you know, get their A team in.
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They spent over $400 million to bring in new players this off-season, and a lot of those are not integrated with the club yet.
33:06
Uh, but in the meantime, they're just gonna kind of be a mess identity-wise and playing style-wise. And Newcastle's a little bit similar. Again, lots of turnover.
33:13
They drew 2-2 with Liverpool in the opener, and it was really a 2-2 kind of game, just wide open both ways.
33:19
So I think this will look a lot like that because neither team has really figured out exactly what they're doing and which players they're using to do it. So I like over here.
33:26
Over three and a half plus 165, Tottenham, Newcastle on Saturday. Yeah, I was gonna say over three and a half, we're getting plus money. Ooh. Plus 165. Yeah. Tottenham, Newcastle over three and a half goals.
33:36
Those are, those two are both on Saturday. Sunday, Sunderland taking on Fulham. Also an over. Yeah, going over two and a half here plus 105.
33:46
Uh, it's very possible I'm gonna play the over in almost every Fulham game this season. Obviously we're only one game in, but their game against Chelsea was very open.
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Fulham gave up a goal in the first minute, but they kept pressing, and that led to opportunities on both sides, and it ended three to two, uh, which in line with the number of shots, 32, 3.6 expected goals.
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So that was not a, you know, every team was just finishing very well. It was a, a very open game. Fulham just didn't stop pushing forward, even they were down a couple of goals.
34:13
That's kind of how Arbeloa, their new manager, liked to play with Real Madrid, so maybe he's gonna bring that here. Uh, Gonzalo Garcia's this kid that Fulham brought over from Madrid.
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He had a goal against Chelsea, looked really legit. Again, one game sample size, so we don't really know. Uh, Sunderland, again, they were seventh last year. I think they're a relegation candidate this year.
34:31
Uh, but they're playing at home, so I, I, and I think this will just be a little bit more open. They lost 2-1 in the opener. But I think we'll get three goals out of this one way or the other, especially at plus 105.
34:39
Paul, 30 seconds. I'm not sure if I've asked you this. You're a Dolphins fan. What are your expectations? Pain. [laughs] Pain. Rocky III, Kelly- Yeah. Mm-hmm... is what that's from. Yep.
34:51
I was, their over-under for wins is four and a half, right? And- Yeah... I mean, is it sad that I'd be happy if they hit the over? No. Yeah. That'd be, that'd be beautiful. Five and 11. Yeah.
35:00
Not too bad, as the great Steve Spurrier once said. All right, Paul, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Paul Carr, everybody. We'll take another two on one. Mm-hmm. 'Cause he just moves the chains. That's right.
35:10
What's he, what's he do, what he does. Hull City could be the, uh, bane of his exist- existence. Yeah. Chris Felica next on a Numbers Game right here at VSiN.
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[upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
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A Numbers Game, un partido de numeros, live from Circle Resort Casino, Downtown Las Vegas. Gil Alexander, my little buddy Kelly Bidlin, everybody. Yo. Losing weight like nobody's business. Losing weight like all get out.
35:47
What are all those, uh, strange statements about him? I gotta laugh at how many- Ew... how many tweets we had come in about the Almot's have 28 days.
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[laughs] Mikey P on Twitter, "Having gone to college in DC, I always enjoyed hoping on the, uh, hopping on the Metro and having a train operator with a great voice announcing the station stops." That's right. Ah.
36:04
I think the red line was famous for that. Unfortunately, they were very few and far between. Yes, exactly. I think it was this one dude on the red line I remember would be like, "Next up, everybody, is, uh- [laughs]...
36:16
Van Ness-UDC, home of the Division II champ Firebirds," back in the early '80s. He would do, he would do stuff like that. No, he would, he would include fun facts with that? Yeah, he would do stuff like that. Oh, wow.
36:24
Yeah. Jeff Sass. Don't sass me, Jeff. Gil, look up, uh, look up the story on John Ratzenberger, the guy that played Cliff Clavin on Cheers, went on to voice multiple characters in Pixar movies. Oh, okay.
36:36
Hey, uh- Interesting... yeah. James Fivey: "Speaking of media salaries, when" [laughs] Oh, here you go, Kelly.
36:41
"Speaking of media salaries, when VSIN increased you and Kelly's workload by 33%", it's actually about 50%, "from two to three hours per day, did you receive a salary increase of that amount?"
36:52
[laughs] That's a good one, James. That's a good one. Um, Johnny Ringo, "Would 100% buy the, would 100% buy that book, Gil.
37:02
Your career has been so eclectic, it would be fascinating to see how you ended up going place to place. You would have to read the audiobook." Oh, I'd, I'd have a ball.
37:10
Chrissy Andrews always said, he said, "I really wanted to read..." He was like, "I really wanted to read my audiobook." I'm not sure if he ever did. Yeah, that'd be, that'd be fun. All right, maybe I'll write one.
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J&J Watering Hole, "Technically speaking, all months have 28 days." [laughs] Boy- He said, "I would read a Gil book, for sure. Currently looking for books for my 19-month-old grandbabies as well.
37:29
Can Kelly write one with a lot of pictures?" Covered. Just kidding. Keep up the great work, gentlemen. Wow. And Matthew Mayberry, "Try to make a dollar out of 15 cents," a dime and a nickel. That was, uh,
37:42
that was Round and Round, right? Yeah, I believe. Thinking about it. I don't know. Um- Looking over to me... ladies and gentlemen, he is back from his Alaska cruise, where he- I'd read Gil's book, too...
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sent 500 pictures to us, all beautiful, but he's back stateside. It is Chris Fallica, The Bear from Fox Sports, El Oso. Christopher, good morning, sir. Good, good, good morning.
38:07
Yeah, no, I, uh, a, a great trip, uh, you know, off the, the Alaska coast, then wind up in Vancouver which is a beautiful, beautiful city as well. Some, uh, some great scen- scenery.
38:17
You, you want an option for an audiobook that I think would probably be, like the, an audiobook that would be extremely difficult to top is, uh, Tom Rinaldi voicing and reading, and he, and this, this is out there, by the way.
38:28
He did do this. This is awesome. An audiobook of Tom Rinaldi, the man with the, the, the red bandana. Uh, the, the story about, uh, Welles Crowther.
38:36
Like, that, that's probably an audiobook that would probably be pretty captivating to- Oh my God... to listen to. I get, I get no commission from Tom Rinaldi, by the way.
38:43
In that Rinaldi, in that Rinaldi inflection with a little music behind it maybe? Oh, that'd be awesome. Yes. Good guy, by the way, Tom Rinaldi? Yes? Oh, great guy. Yeah. The best. I would think. The best.
38:52
He can, uh, he, he, he can, he can take a jab with the b- He kind of loves being the...
38:57
Like, like, if I take a shot at him, he just kind of gives, like, a Rinaldi laugh, and he, he like, he, "Oh, so mean," but he, he loves it. [laughs] Yeah. Great guy. Great guy. All right.
39:06
As is, as is the staple of all Christof- Chris Fallica appearances, uh, it's not just one sport. It's not just two sports. No. It's often- No... six or seven sports.
39:15
We have about, I think, four different ones here today. Maybe I miscounted. Let's start with... L- let's segue from where Paul just was. You have a Premier League play as well. Yeah.
39:25
I, I bet Man City today on the three-way, uh, against Cr- against Palace. They did not s- play very well for the first
39:33
fif- 55, 60 minutes or so in, in their opener against Bournemouth, and they're down one-nil, and, uh, miraculously they brought in, uh, Rasmus Højbjerg, and they started to play better and they wind up getting two late goals, uh, to get the win.
39:44
Højbjerg needs to be in the starting 11, and now you play Palace, a team that has lost a lot of guys in the portal, managerial changes.
39:52
Uh, I would expect City to come out today and, uh, play much better from the start and get, uh, all three points against Palace. Okay. Uh, and then we, we talked about tennis. Let's get your tennis play out of the way.
40:05
You s- you texted this to folks yesterday. You're super excited about it. You remain super excited about this play. What do you got?
40:10
I, I, I do, and there were a couple of reactions out there about I, I don't necessarily think that bet's gonna win, but I can see how you're gonna do it.
40:17
But, uh, I bet a- at DraftKings the field, uh, at plus 135 against the, the big three, as they said, uh, Novak Djokovic, Carlos Alcaraz, and El- and Sasha Zverev. Uh, I just don't think
40:31
Djokovic right now has much left in the tank. Could he pull a Jimmy Connors type thing and wind up winning 25? It would be awesome if he did, and if he does and I lose, great.
40:41
It would be awesome for him to go out with a win there. Uh, Sasha Zverev's hard court form has not been great lately.
40:47
Uh, and, and Carlos Alcaraz, we, we, we still don't know about his health, all because he played a couple of m- mixed doubles matches with Serena, and there was a report about him, his practice going inside so he necessarily couldn't be, be seen.
40:59
And that's a very difficult quarter, uh, that, that he is in- Yes, it is... as well. So, uh, someone said if they, if one of those three get to the final, could you see any, anyone else beating them?
41:08
Maybe not, but, uh, at this price where I get the field against guys who I think all have a little bit of a, uh, flaws right now and r- and reasons to try and fade them, I took that.
41:18
And finally, I would have told, uh, Danny this last night, but I did not see the prices until this morning when they just got put up. I just heard you talking about the quarters, uh, as well.
41:28
I did take a shot against Djokovic in that quarter. I did bet, uh, Brandon Nakashima- There you go... at seven to one in that quarter. He, he's been playing great, um, in, in the hard court right now.
41:38
So, uh, I know, Kelly, you mentioned him, but, uh, yeah, I did take, uh, Nakashima seven to one. Okay, so we both targeted the Djokovic quarter. You took Nakashima. Yeah. I took Daniil Medvedev.
41:47
Yeah, we were saying a little bit th- about this off air. I like your, I like the field price at plus 135 versus Carlitos, Djokovic, and Zverev, but I also can imagine it losing, right?
41:58
Because in a, i- because as you said- Mm-hmm... off air, those guys deep in a tournament, like if they get d- I don't see them losing, right? Like, if Carlitos got to the semis, is he...
42:07
Then, then we're like, "Oh, he's Carlitos again." Same thing with- Right... same thing with Djokovic, same thing with Sasha. Okay. Uh, interesting play, though. I, where, where did you get that, by the way?
42:14
That was at DraftKings. At DraftKings. Okay. Um- Yep... okay.
42:18
And, and they have one on the women's side, too, uh, w- w- which I, they, they have a, an Iga and Sabalenka versus the field, and I think they have an Iga, uh, Sabalenka, and someone else versus the field.
42:27
I really don't... I didn't take a, a, a stand there.
42:31
I do think you probably have to maybe play against Sabalenka, even though her quarter is very easy, but she, she has, what, not been to a final in, what, seven months or whatever.
42:39
Like, it, it, she's She's well off her game right now. So I, I would certainly be open to playing, uh, some prices there against her in the, in the overall market. All right.
42:48
Chris Fallica is, of course, you think his bread and butter is college football. We will save the college football for after the break. Really his bread and butter, and his margarine as well, is horsies.
42:57
[laughs] Saratoga today. What do you got? I can't believe it's not butter. Yeah. [laughs] That's right. Back in the day. Oh, is this- Ne- never ever, never ever a margarine guy, Gil. No. Never ever.
43:10
Oh, you, you really had that, uh, taste sensitivity between butter and margarine? Really?
43:14
No, I, I would, I w- I, I shouldn't say I'm never a mar- I would use margarine maybe to heat up a, a frying pan to make it a little bit non-stick. Hmm. But in terms of like margarine on toast or something, no, gosh, no.
43:26
Ugh. Ugh. I have- No. Just, just give me the real good pure, pure cultured butter and I'm, and salted butter and I'm good to go. I have both in my fridge currently. Do you really? 'Cause I go back and forth on this.
43:37
I, l- kind of like Chris is saying. Okay. Sometimes I'm like, "That was disgusting. Give me real butter." [laughs] Okay. Uh, Saratoga. Are these today or tomorrow, Chris? These are tomorrow. All right.
43:46
Um, uh, they're big, probably the biggest day of the meet at Saratoga. Uh, bunch of stakes races.
43:53
There, there are more stakes races than this, but these were three that I kinda looked at and looked at some, some ways to potentially play.
44:00
Uh, in the Lake Placid, uh, Chad Brown has a, a first time import named Naomis who comes in in the form, uh, the European form. Looks good. Uh, the workout over the surface looks good.
44:12
But just gonna be a question of whether this horse breaks out of the starting gate in, in good fashion.
44:16
That's the biggest concern that you have a lot of times with these horses that come from Europe, from the first time.
44:21
They don't break in a gate necessarily over there, and, uh, maybe they act up and they don't get a clean trip. But I like this horse, uh, Naomis, 3 to 1.
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Will probably be shorter than that, so if you can find a fixed odd shop, uh, I would recommend that. Uh, the Ballerina, this is a great race. I am...
44:38
Y- you may not like Ecliptan, but uh, I wim against Ways and Means, who's gonna be the favorite in this race. Uh, she is a really, really hard horse to ride and handle.
44:48
She's always seems like she's all out in races, and she won Saratoga on, on Belmonte at a very, very short price, and was all out to win.
44:57
So, uh, Ecliptan, I think, is gonna get a good setup from that outside post, so I like her. And then the big race, the, uh, the Midsummer Classic.
45:05
Uh, the, the Midsummer, the, like the fourth leg of the Triple Crown, per se. Uh, the Travers Stakes is a great race. Uh, you've got Golden Tempo, who won two of the three legs of the Triple Crown.
45:14
You've got Renegade, who was the Derby favorite. Uh, but I like a horse coming in, Leading Change, who's a horse, Kelly, that you're familiar with.
45:22
We, we recommended betting this horse to win the Kentucky Derby at really nice price. Yep, that's right. And then got hurt- We did. Yep... training.
45:28
Uh, never ma- never, never made his debut until, uh, a couple months ago. Won the debut. Uh, won, I believe it was at Thistle Down, the Indiana Derby, I think it was, or the Ohio.
45:38
One, one of the, w- maybe it's Indi- yeah, maybe it was Indianapolis he won. I forget the race, the prep race. But, uh, I think this horse kind of being the new shooter on the trail.
45:47
Ch- uh, Brad Cox says this horse can be very tactically placed.
45:51
A lot of times on big stakes days at Saratoga, you see a very speed favoring, so maybe that might work against Renegade a little bit and favor a horse that might be closer to the front end, uh, like Leading Change.
46:03
And that price on Leading Change is great at 12 to 1. All right. We've saved the best for last. College football season longs and a week zero play from Chris next on The Numbers Game, at VSI Sports Betting Network.
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