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Dec 10, 2025
A Numbers Game | December 10, 2025 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | December 10, 2025 | Hour 2
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0:01
The numbers tell the story. They always do. You one of those idiots who believe in analytics? This is the Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
0:09
Hour number two of the Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com. Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, Sirius XM Channel 158. Gil Alexander, and my little buddy Kelly Bidlin over here.
0:20
Um, on a Wednesday morning. Still to come, Warren Sharp on the show. Talk NFL Week 15 with us. Toddy Wisnev on a college basketball heater that never ends. Nice, man. Keeps rolling. Dude is up, like, 80 units.
0:33
It's awesome. Yeah. It's pretty impressive. Uh, we'll talk to him, uh, coming up on the show, see if he has energy. Mm-hmm. Uh, NFL Whip Around coming up. L- we got tweets, though. I gotta...
0:42
I w- I'm in arrears on the tweets. Gotta get to 'em. James Fessler at Mizzou Soldier. He said, "I'm sure you've seen the college basketball AP Top 12 discussion. Last 21 champs inside that rank in the poll.
0:54
Uh, but is there a date to start considering the formula? Imagine waiting for a certain amount of conference play is needed." Yeah, I don't usually break out the formula till after the Super Bowl.
1:02
But to what he's talking about, uh, John Gassaway, who has been a, a guest on this show in the past, his thing is the Week Six of the AP Poll, if you take the top 12, the champion has always come out of that.
1:13
That's his little formula. Hmm. Arizona, Michigan... The, what's the top 12, you ask, uh, today? Arizona, Michigan, Duke, Iowa State, UConn, Purdue, Houston, Gonzaga, Michigan State, BYU, Louisville, and Alabama.
1:29
Wait, this i- th- this dates back, do you have a date on this? W- when, how- Last 21 champs... last 21 champs in the, what'd you say? Sixth week of the AP Poll? [laughs] I said Week Six of the AP Poll, top 12.
1:41
It's very data mined, but you got it. That's, yeah. No, I don't know. It's still extremely impressive to me. Yeah, yeah. But 21 years in a row? Wow. That's what it says.
1:49
Billy Charlebois, "Interesting Philip Rivers played by, uh, Will Hill on Philip Rivers. Heard he was also in on Bjorn Borg when he came back in the '90s and tried to play very unsuccessfully with a wood racket."
1:58
True story- [laughs]... by the way. Um, Scott Barbrack, "Gil, I'm listening in my car and I just almost drove off the road.
2:05
Are you trying to tell me that the guy that played Ted Baxter on the Mary Tyler Moore Show fancied himself as a serious actor? Did Belushi ever do Shakespeare?" Hey, I'm just telling you what the doc- [laughs]...
2:13
what the documentary told us. Chance Copper, "But he sure did. Ted Knight fashioned himself as a much more serious actor than the Chevy Chases of the world, and it was almost beneath him to do Caddyshack."
2:24
Chance Copperpot, "Speaking of Fiddy, I finished the rest of the Fiddy Does a Diddy doc and it was very good. Thanks, Gil. On to the Expos and the Super Bowl Shuffle." Yeah, man.
2:32
All great docs for different reasons, but the Diddy doc is just out of control. I'm making good progress, too. I'm about halfway through the first episode. [laughs] What's wrong with you?
2:41
[laughs] Chris Hartman, by the way, who's uh- Importantly [laughs]... whose t- whose tweet we could not in, uh, could not decipher earlier.
2:46
He says, "It's the new Upside commercial that plays every break on VSiN, more annoying than being late for the concert." Can't be. And we don't hear the commercials, that's why I didn't know. Tronsky, "Wait a sec.
2:54
Gil, you've never seen The Big Lebowski? Not exactly a top five movie or anything, but probably top three Jeff Bridges and some very quotable lines that make it just a joy to watch most of it.
3:02
Maybe NFL off-season to watch." Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'll get there. It's a good breakdown. Eric Berg, "The Philip Rivers bet to make,"
3:09
no, "The Philip B- the Philip Rivers bet to make," he says, "is plus 550 on Cal sheet for him not to play." Yeah, that, uh... So I was sitting here tracking those odds yesterday. That's to take a snap. Right. Yeah.
3:22
It was to, it was to play professional football this season. Yeah. And that kind of st- like, 'cause I was tracking that as this news was coming in, and I got close to be like, "Well, let me get in on this."
3:32
Plus 550 not to play. But, well, I got close to, I got close to putting a bet in on the yes, 'cause I had it pulled up right when that news was coming down. But, like, that, that language did, it, it made me stop.
3:43
And I was like, "I, I'm not, I'm not positive he's g-" I'm not, I'm not positive. I really not. That would suck. That would suck to hit that y- hit the yes on that.
3:50
He m- you know, they have him on the roster and he doesn't play. Again, 'cause they say if Riley Leonard can go, Riley Leonard's starting. That according to, uh, Ian Rapoport.
3:58
And I also, I still have that Hall of Fame thing in my head. Does he wanna restart the clock? T. Shell- Oh, wait, what, do, do you know the rules on that? Yes. Like, is it already restarted or- No...
4:07
it only restarts if he plays? No. As long as he's on the practice squad- Interesting... it has not restarted. As soon as he's elevated, he doesn't have to play. Right. But as soon as he's elevated to the 53, it restarts.
4:16
Okay, that's fascinating. Uh, T. Sheldahl, "Movie quote guy hasn't seen The Big Lebowski? You're out of your element, Gil." Am I the movie quote guy? No, no, no. No, I'm not. He's the music quote guy. I'm the music guy.
4:25
Otherwise, I would get a lot more of these things. Yeah, I'm not the, I'm not the movie quote guy. You're, you're mistaking me for Captain America Dave Ross. He's only got, like, five movies, so it's okay.
4:33
Tom Mass313, uh, has a, uh, website, I believe a website correction or a graphics correction. He says, "Bryant is the Bulldogs, not the Bears, as appears on the website." Oh, the website. There we go.
4:41
Website suggestion guy. Jack in Iowa, "Gil, I do declare," I do declare, "you must watch The Big Lebowski. It's a travesty that you haven't seen this movie yet.
4:49
Also, Ben McCollum might be the best under the radar coach in college basketball." Head man at Iowa, from Jack in Iowa. John McCollum's brother? Not, not related to either- No, no relation... CJ or Sean McCollum, no.
5:00
Okay. Boodannboy, "Don't leave out Kellen Moore," I guess for the un-coach of the year he's talking about. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good call.
5:06
Spence CC- But I don't know, what did we really expect out of the Saints this year? Yeah, that's true. Spence CC, "Kenny Stabler actually looked like, uh, looked like he was 50 when he played." [laughs] Yes.
5:15
"Oh, no one looked older than George Blanda. George Blanda had lamb chop gray sideburns and was smoking cigarettes- Yeah, what's that, what year, uh-... on the sidelines"... what age did he play to? I think 46.
5:25
Oh, is that all, w- is that all it was? I actually thought he was older. 46 or 47, one of those two. Uh, Jesse Welch, "I was one of those people who cashed on Flacco for Comeback Player of the Year.
5:34
It was a bet on Flacco at 100 to 1 and 80 to 1. Rivers at anything less than those prices is absolutely absurd." I agree with you.
5:42
Brian Morianan, "I went to Texas Roadhouse last night, so in honor of hoops, I placed my first college basketball bets of the year. Went three and one, plus 1.7 units. Columbia let me down."
5:51
Eric B., not that Eric B., not the one that used to hang out with Rakim, but a different one. "Shout out to Matty Cox and three-man weave. They went three and 0 on the show yesterday. Clean sweep." Nice.
6:01
"Thanks for the free money." Thank you, Eric B., for acknowledging Matty Cox. Taylor McKenzie- I just found a Mike Vrabel Coach of the Year -175 and car- and can parlay it with Miles Garrett -1500 for -148.
6:13
Seems like a good bet. Yes? I have Shanahan preseason. He could still sneak his way into this if they win out and somehow end up with the number one seed.
6:20
Yes, I mean, if they ended up with the number one seed, which is possible, that would bring Shanahan into the discussion. I would agree with that. I don't know about the Mike Vrabel Coach of the Year.
6:29
Like, I still think there's enough runway where he's not the guy. I really do. Yeah. I, I'm not ready to throw in the- Leader, leader in the clubhouse. Leader in the clubhouse.
6:37
Um, but not, but w- still enough runway for it not to happen. Mm-hmm. BroSek1870. We'll end it with this one 'cause there's ton of tweets. "Of course the guy," Will Hill, "with 13 kids is betting on the guy with 13 kids.
6:49
Better comeback story. River- [laughs]... Rivers or Kim Kardashian?" Stop it with that. Stop it. All right, you ready to do this? Oh, man. That was great. [laughs] Kelly had to get up. He loved that one so much.
7:02
I think he liked the 13 kids part though. That's all I- Yeah... I don't even hear anything after that. I didn't- Not the other part... I didn't connect those two dots earlier. [laughs] Time for the NFL Whiparound.
7:10
Let's do it. [upbeat music] The guys check in on all the NFL line movement, injury updates, and give their thoughts on every game on the board. It's the Wednesday Whiparound. Oh, man.
7:20
Why are you pronouncing it that way, Stewie? What do you mean? [laughs] I like that you caught that too. I only heard the first part of that tweet and I just started laughing. [laughs] I never put that together earlier.
7:30
It's so great. All right, Thursday Night Football. Not the sexiest game ever. Not the- But it matters a lot.
7:36
But it matters to the Bucs, 'cause the Bucs are deadlocked with the Panthers atop the A- excuse me, the NFC South. But keep in mind, the Buccaneers and the Panthers have yet to play.
7:46
They still have two games against each other. It's insane. For the, uh, the crown. How does this happen every year? Like, like, why do we have to backload so many schedules with big division games?
7:57
Like- It al- it al- by the way, there was, it always seems like it's the NFC South that, that is the most consistent with that. I'd really ha- I'd hate to agree with you on that, but fir- I thought the same thing.
8:07
I don't know why it seems like it's the NFC South. Yeah. Um, I have no play Thursday Night Football. I really don't either. No. I mean, this Bucs team is still banged up.
8:15
You gotta monitor inju- uh, injuries with, especially at the wide receiver position. They're gonna get Mike Evans back this week. Who knows? Uh, it sounded like he was ramping up last week.
8:24
Still feels like it might be a little early here. Drake London you gotta watch out for too. Um, there was some Atlanta money that did come in a little early on this, uh, on this game, but yeah, I got nothing.
8:35
Bucs favored by four. Total 44, Thursday Night Football. Sunday morning. Remember, no byes. We're done with byes for the first week. Cardinals at the Texans.
8:44
Speaking of implications, Texans not only trying to get to the playoffs, trying to win the division at this point. Game behind the Jaguars in the AFC South, or as Kelly likes to call it, the AFC East.
8:55
That's a whole 'nother story. Texans -9.5 against Jacoby Brissett and the Cardinals. Nothing for me. Um, yeah, nothing here either.
9:05
I, I thought Texans was a good-looking teaser leg when these, uh, look-ahead lines were up. It is kinda creeping high. I, I see t- Yeah... I see tens out there now. There were te- yeah, I saw tens yesterday.
9:17
I'm sta- I'm staring at a 10. I think it was the one... Okay. I'm staring at a 10.
9:20
Ye- yeah, like, honestly, Gil, if anything, it would be, at this point, it would probably get to be too much and I'd be leaning the Cardinals side.
9:27
I, I mean, look, Brissett and this offense have, has at least been able to move the ball. Like, the, the defense- Yeah... isn't great. I'd actually consider an over for similar reasons.
9:35
[laughs] I think the Texans o- offense is getting a little better here recently, and the, that Cardinals offense is bad. Their defense is terrible. That total's at 42. This total is hella low, as we say in The Bay.
9:47
Raiders at the Eagles. Eagles favored by 11. I see 11 and a halves out there. 37 and a half in a- Sheesh... must-win situation for the Eagles. Must.
9:58
In their stretch of four games here, if they are trying to, uh, overcome the Cowboys in the NFC East, they gots to win this game. Nothing for me. Total opens at, like, 40 and a half, 39 and a half and just plummeting.
10:12
Wow. Um- That is now the lowest total on the board this weekend. Uh, lean to the under? [laughs] Still, I don't... What can this Raiders team do with this Eagle? Yeah. I, maybe this is the,
10:25
maybe this is the week this Eagles offense wakes up, but man, I, this is, this is becoming tough to watch the past few weeks. I, I've got no faith in them whatsoever. I, it'd just be a pass for me.
10:35
By the way, on the survivor segment yesterday, I said Texans taking on the Cardinals, probably I wouldn't, because it's the Cardinals and there's always that chance with them.
10:42
But as far as, uh, as far as the Eagles, absolutely I would, uh, consider playing that. As would I with these Jaguars. Hosting the Jets. Jaguars 12 and a half point favorites. I, what am I supposed to do with this game?
10:54
I, uh, the Jets are still trying for whatever reason. What am I supposed- The Ja-... what am I supposed to do with this?... the Jaguars I don't trust at all.
10:59
Like, I'm gonna, like I said yesterday, I'm gonna lose so much money if it, once they get in the playoffs and if they actually keep winning games. Uh, I'll be staying away from this one.
11:06
Jacksonville, man, it's wild that they're gonna be... They're, they're probably winning that division. We have f- we have five doubled.
11:12
If you c- if you count the Texans as 10-point favorites, we have five double-digit spreads this week. Three are 13 points or more. Uh, Bears are seven and a half point favorites over the Brownies.
11:24
You know, I would consider this as a survivor play too, as discussed yesterday. One of the remaining 10 entries has the Bears in circus survivor. That dude's got to play it.
11:34
Yeah, any of your typical spots, I think, make sure you check weather this week. I did, did catch that there could be some brewing. Uh, in Chicago is one of those locations.
11:42
I, I like the Bears as a teaser leg, but there's not many teaser options out there this week. I made four bets. We haven't gotten to any of them yet. Yeah. We'll continue on the other side.
11:49
It's the Numbers Game right here at VSiN. [upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
12:05
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12:14
They say the, uh, the markets, they say the books fear them. sharpplays.com, check it out. We got tweets beating the book.
12:22
Fairway Fred, "Without a doubt, Ted Knight was the star of a great cast of comedians in Caddyshack." He gives Ted Knight the nod. Danny. DP, "Speaking of looking old, Y.A. Tittle looked old." Yes, he did.
12:35
[laughs] Y- Y.A. Tittle looked like he was 75 years old for real. It was crazy. George, George Blanda played until he was 48. There you go. But I, but I'm with you, he looked like he was 62. But Y.A.
12:45
Tittle looked like, literally looked like your grandfather, and not your grandfather when it was a young grandfather, either.
12:51
Tronsky, "Hey, Gill, as a Louisiana native, I'm very skeptical of the Saints line this week hosting the Panthers. Sure, Chuck had his best game, but the Jekyll and Hyde Panthers should handle them off a bye, no problem.
13:00
Short road favorite? Yes, please." Tronsky all over the Panthers. I hope so. I'm in on that side, too. Roger Jones, uh, laughing at me when I messed up Christian McCaffrey. He says, "Christian McCrappy," love it.
13:11
Is that what I said? And Nick G, "If most of the books are now partnered with the NFL, there can't be communication about it if Rivers is even eligible? Seems dirty that books are just free rolling the better."
13:23
Oh, it's not, it's not... I- look, people can vote for whoever they want. Yep. These, these r- these rules are put in place to help guide the voters. They're supposed to guide them.
13:34
And yeah, we still saw last year, though, people put Darnold votes in, so. Books, books put up whoever they want 'cause they're like, "Yeah, these people will bet on it."
13:41
And look, it's, it's handled- I'm with you, man... it's handled by the Associated Press too, right? So I don't even know how that, that connection with the NFL directly works.
13:48
I don't know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't read into it like that, I guess I would say.
13:52
And Roger Jones points out what we poin- pointed out earlier, which is on the flip side of the Rivers coin, what does it say about teams having a guy signed for 60 days on the practice squad, talking about Brett Rypien, presumably because you think he has some ability, but when the time comes up, you opt for a 44-year-old retiree of four years.
14:06
It's wild. It's just what I was talking about earlier. It's incredible, man. Before we continue the, uh, NFL whip-around, and by the way, that, that early window so far as in terms of betting, I had nothing.
14:18
I have four bets, none of them so far.
14:20
Um, I just wanna point out that, uh, when I, when, when we close each and every Numbers Game, by the way, we're preceded by By the Books, starring the great Dave Ross and Jensen Lewis, and they're on about
14:32
5,473 affiliates, I believe, by my count, by my last count. Yeah, that's- Kelly will check on that... that is exactly correct. Uh, then it's us, a Numbers Game, me and Kelly.
14:42
Uh, it's a, you know, a three-hour diversion into, uh, Yiddish hip-hop and early '90s R&B. Kelly's a good sport about it. He doesn't understand any of it, but he's a good sport about it on those subjects.
14:52
And then after us, uh, w- as, as this show ends at, uh, 10:00 AM Pacific, 1:00 PM Eastern every day, I always like to say, "Oh, who's coming up next?"
15:00
And I say, depending on how much, how many seconds I've left myself, I will say it's John Hanson on Prop Points, um, the lovely Stormy Bonatony, and the equally lovely Jonathan Vontobel on Money Moves after that, followed by Mitch and Paul with Follow the Money.
15:14
I never get to say that after that it's VSiN Primetime, Matt Youmans, Tim Murray, and then it's our buddy Dustin Sweetelson on Cashing Out.
15:22
And Dustin, um, is on air when NFL Primetime games are on, so he is live betting stuff, and he is reacting in real time to things that are going on.
15:32
Couple nights ago, the Eagles-Chargers game, we all know how that ended in overtime. Uh, Dustin had a couple bets going.
15:38
He had a pre-flop under 42 in that game, and I don't know if he made it pre-flop or in-game, he had a Chargers money line bet going as well in this ball game. And, um, remember, it was 22 to 19
15:54
Chargers as the Eagles tried to matriculate the ball down the field, and did so, uh, in their subsequent drive to try to either tie or win the game outright. Uh, this is Dustin Sweetelson on Cashing Out Monday night.
16:07
Let's pick it up on the second to last play of the game. Here's Dustin. Second and seven coming for Philadelphia right now. They are at the 34 yard line or so of the Chargers.
16:19
They should be able to kick a field goal from this distance, and they've got no one in the backfield, so they're gonna throw it on second and seven. And Hurts the right side, that is Goddard again.
16:27
That is a first down, and they are now in the red zone. This is a meltdown by the Chargers. The Chargers have had a few opportunities in this game. They have not put the Eagles the way, away.
16:37
The Eagles are minus eight ten to win it. You can get five to one on the Chargers. Oh man, um, I'm getting kicked in the teeth in this game. This is not fun to live out publicly with all of you right now.
16:48
But I do appreciate you hanging out however you're tuning in, Sirius XM 158, YouTube TV, the VSiN Watch app, and radio affiliates across the United States of God Bless America. On first and ten, Hurts with a throw.
16:59
He's intercepted. Oh, baby. [laughs] Oh, another one. Say bye-bye, Jalen. Picky number four. Chargers win. Under cashes. Let's go.
17:16
Oh, I gotta talk to my therapist about what just happened, 'cause that was not professional of me. I was told when they gave me this show I have to be more professional. [laughs] That's fantastic.
17:27
That's a, a reflection of the rollercoaster of so many people who had similar bets. Uh, I love that Dustin was, uh, was pr- first of all, he was like, "Oh my God, I hate living this out in public.
17:38
I'm about to lose everything." And then professional enough to, like, give the s- you know, VSiN the where you can- Oh, the reset?... where you can get the reset Oh, yeah, the reset. Yeah. Uh, and then he goes nuts.
17:46
He loses his mind, and then [laughs] with the come down of saying, "Oh boy, I was told I needed to be more professional." [laughs] That's great.
17:53
Yeah, got- Dustin Sweetelson every night on Cash It Out right here on the network. Yeah, make sure to catch it. Got, got... We've had the opportunity to do many, many shows for, uh- [laughs]...
18:00
many months with Dustin, live betting shows. That's awesome. Lo- love working with Dustin, miss working with Dustin.
18:05
Uh, always a good time, and that is a great example of what could regularly, uh, he will regularly bring to that show. He did a, a wonderful job breaking down the entire situation as it was unfolding.
18:15
Uh, 11:00 PM Eastern Uh, 8:00 AM, uh, 8:00 PM Pacific, pardon me- Very-... for Cashing Out...
18:22
very inside, uh, baseball, but yeah, the funniest part of it to me, too, was the, was the perfect radio reset in between where it's like, "I got 10 seconds before they're gonna snap this.
18:30
Let me make sure to work in the TV and radio partners." [laughs] Uh- It's great... all right, continuing the whip-around. 1:00 PM, Buffalo Bills and New England Patriots. It's a pick 'em. I bet the Bills. You did bet it.
18:43
Yeah. Did you bet it on Monday or did you- I bet it on Monday- Okay... during Guessing Lines. I got minus one. I, I'm, I don't have as good as a pick 'em, but, you know. I, I...
18:49
Listen, the Patriots' schedule, I know they beat the Bills earlier, but the Bills' turnovers were a huge swing in that game. Step up in competition, generally speaking for the Patriots.
18:59
I took the Bills in a game that not only has playoff implications, but has AFC East implications. Mm-hmm.
19:05
Patriots currently with a two-game lead over the Bills in the AFC East, and then who knows, maybe even sights on a number one seed when all is said and done. Yeah, this is another one. I, I haven't played it yet.
19:16
But if the Patriots win, they win the division. It's over. It's done. It's, well, yeah. It's done done. 'Cause there'll be three games left and they s- they will have swept them.
19:23
The, um, this is another one, just keep your eyes out. Look like, looks like snow could be coming. We saw what Josh Allen did in that snow last week.
19:31
You don't wanna play him in snow, so yeah, I, uh, heavy lean to the Bills. I think I'll end up on that side with you. Ravens at the Bengals. I played the Bengals plus two and a half Monday on Guessing Lines.
19:41
I just, I, I said it m- Monday, maybe at the top of the show, I'll say it again. Has any team ever been more overvalued by a market for as long a period of time during a season as this Ravens team? And it continues. Why?
19:57
Why are they road favorites? Ravens still trying to get to the, uh, AFC North top. They are a game behind the Steelers. Bengals are donezo. Not mathematically, but generally. Yeah.
20:06
This is, this is one of those that might make my millions card with Bengals, but I'm not betting it. Okay. The total, I'm like, I don't know what, what are you, what are you doing with this total, too?
20:14
The total feels weird. At 51 and a half? Not touching. Chargers at Chiefs, implications abound. If the Chargers win this, the Chiefs are donezo.
20:24
But as I mentioned yesterday, a path exists for the Chiefs to make the playoffs. Colts have the hardest schedule remaining. Chargers have a really hard schedule remaining. And the Chiefs, it's...
20:36
Listen, they could, right, based on their opponents, 4-0 is not the craziest thing I've ever heard. Chiefs are four and a half point favorites. Didn't bet it, though. Yeah, I got nothing. I got nothing here. Yeah.
20:46
Um, man, I think if, I think if you're looking at the Chiefs, I mean, you're either money line roll overtime or you j- or you're playing that to make the playoffs, Bryce. Skins at Giants. Giants two point favorites.
20:57
That's where it should be. I've got no play. Yeah. Good seasons, Commanders and Giants. We'll see you next year. Nice job, guys. Uh, this is, uh, into the late window next. Are we in the late window? I believe we are.
21:09
Yes, we are. 4:25 Eastern kickoffs. No 4:05s, as Kelly pointed out yesterday. Colts at Seahawks. Will it be Philip Rivers? Will it be Riley Leonard? We don't know. Seahawks favored by 13 and a half now. Creep, creep.
21:21
What i- what, what is- Getting up to two touchdowns soon... what is the proper price for Philip Rivers, by the way? I don't know. I don't know. I'd be like, this is...
21:29
We, we saw, we saw the Max Brosmer experiment, uh, a couple weeks ago roll into Seattle and, uh, catch the buzzsaw that was the Seahawks. Like, I, I mean, Philip Rivers, you are not Max Brosmer.
21:41
I m- let me, let me apologize right away. I'm still, I was about to. But at your age, and, uh, having not played in five years, I, I don't know. I could, I could be talked into laying a lot of points with Seattle.
21:51
Have not done it yet, though. Packers, two and a half point road favorites at the Broncos. I got the Packers during guessing lines at one and a half. Yeah. Me too. Broncos, major step up in competition here. Yeah.
22:02
I, I, I'm with you. Uh, this is, feels like it's a while, been a while since I've bet the Packers, but man, how is, how is this not three?
22:09
There's a couple of these lines that I bet this week that I'm a little, like a little nervous of, that they're not [laughs] they're not three or gone that way already, Gil. But yeah, I b- I bet it at one and a half too.
22:19
Um, I know that's saying Packers are, like, five and a half points better on a neutral. It's probably how I feel about these two teams right now.
22:26
Denver's been also a- awesome at home, but you said they're barely winning these games against bad opponents recently. I, pass. Squeeze this one in. Panthers at Saints. Panthers by two and a half.
22:34
Tronsky just said he loved the Panthers. I played them too. [laughs] I don't, I don't know why this one's not three. Panthers off a bye. Feels like a bit of an overreaction from Saints winning last week. Yeah. Yeah.
22:44
Coming back, more of the Whip Around. Warren Sharp as well, Todd Wishnow. It's all on the Numbers Game right here at VSAN, the sports betting network. [upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSAN, the sports betting network.
23:01
Back on the Numbers Game. Nick Whalen about to join us, but first, your tweets. Best listeners in the game. I mean that every time I say it, man. Y'all are the best.
23:10
Bondplate, "In regards to placing bets in the award market, do not," he says in capitals, "place a bet without exploring if your book will allow you to parlay Myles Garrett Defensive Player of the Year.
23:20
Instant discount." He said, "Let's beat that book." Uh, Anthony Ventresca, "Gotta love Dustin Sweeton." What, what were you gonna say? No, I, I was said probably a fair comment at this point. Yeah.
23:32
Not a, not a bad comment at all. With, uh, Scary Bet. Yeah. Anthony Ventresca, "Gotta love Dustin Sweeton. I've always been a huge fan of the Numbers Game and real ones remember when Dustin was doing Sharp Money daily.
23:41
I was very happy when Dustin was made the host of Cash It Out. P.S. Bring back the bearded brothers' live bet weekend shows." What's that? Me and Dustin. Oh, you and Dustin. Okay. Sorry. [laughs] Sorry.
23:51
Did you mean you sitting next to me and Dustin? The o- the re- the real ones. Oh. The Shar- Sharp Money was, like... It wasn't, it wasn't retired that long ago. No.
23:59
[laughs] That's the- It was like, it was like a year and a half or two years ago, maybe... Rob Graham, "Good morning, Gil and Kelly." Am I crazy? "Happy hump day.
24:05
Today it's minus 38 with the wind chill, so it feels like minus 48. Could repeat Hoop... Could you repeat Hoops Peterson's picks, please?"
24:13
Well, I make a special dispensation for people who are, uh, listening to us at minus 30 and below, so yes, I will. Norfolk State, Baylor under 146 and a half. Notre Dame minus 11 versus Idaho.
24:25
Uh, New Jersey Institute of Technology plus the points he also sprinkled on the money line versus New Haven, and then Nebraska plus the one and a half versus Wisconsin, and the under in that same ballgame, under 159 and a half Nebraska and Wisconsin.
24:37
Respect the process, bruh. I laughed so hard in the gym listening to that. The girl lifting next to me thought I was laughing at her. I said, "No, I'm laughing at Veesen."
24:45
I gave her the Dustin radio reset, Sirius XM 158. Um, turned around to, uh... What does he say? I can't even read what he's talking about. He goes, "God bless America." That's how he ends the tweet.
24:55
And then Spence says, "Bengals plus two and a half or money line plus 124. Curious when the money line becomes better value when getting less than three points."
25:05
There's definitely something to it when it's, uh, the closer it gets, right? The, the fewer points you get for sure. If it, if it was plus a half or plus one and a half.
25:12
Plus two and a half, um, I believe the minus 110 is better, but you know what? I might be wrong. Yeah, I was g- Yeah... I was just gonna say, I, I don't know it offhand either. That's probably a bad thing.
25:20
You can always find these charts pretty easily online. Yep. I'm just doing it off the top of my head. Yep. All right. Uh, we'll, we'll continue the whip around next segment, and we'll also talk some college football.
25:31
But Nick Whelan joins us now courtesy of Progressive Guest Line. Rotowire senior writer, senior analyst. You can follow him on Twitter at Whelan. Mm.
25:39
Just substitute the one for the letter L, and bang, you'll be there with Nick. How you doing, man? Doing well, guys. I, I'm doing well. I mean, it's, it's NBA Cup quarterfinal season. Yeah.
25:49
Uh, I mean, this is, this is one of the, one of the biggest weeks on the sports calendar. How could you not be doing great? Oh, it's fantastic. Yeah, you have the, you have, uh, Emirates NBA Cup fever.
25:58
Is that what you're telling us? Who doesn't? Who doesn't, man? [laughs] Fantastic. I mean, just a, a great two-pack of games last night. Uh, both lower scoring, both kinda d- defensive battles.
26:07
Miami was just awful offensively, uh, in the second half down in Orlando. But two fun ones tonight. Uh, interested to see if the Suns can keep this, you know, even relatively close at OKC.
26:17
And then I was hoping we would get a Victor Wembanyama return- Yeah... tonight for the NBA Cup, but that will not be the case. So Lakers now given seven and a half- Yeah... at home to the Spurs.
26:27
Yeah, major move, movement there. Obviously, that Wemby news was lingering. Big time. Yeah. But Lakers seven, seven and a half, and that total all the way up to 240 and a half after...
26:35
Yeah, like Nick said, we've seen two unders hit last night. Yeah. Semis on, after the quarters tonight, semis on Saturday, and then the championship on Tuesday.
26:44
Both of those, the semis and the championship, here in Las Vegas. Mm. Uh, to the National Football League. I bet, during Guessing Lines on Monday, Nick, I bet the, uh, the Bills minus one versus the Patriots.
26:56
You are on the other side of this. Mm-hmm. What do you got? I am. I am. And re- reluctantly, I'm starting to respect the New England Patriots.
27:03
You know, I was kind of a, uh, a schedule hound, uh, when it comes to New England for, for most of the season.
27:09
But I, I've settled on this idea that it's just, it's really hard to win 10 games in a row in the NFL, I don't care who you're facing, every single week to not get tripped up at any point during that stretch.
27:19
You know, England has not even really had, like, a, a true bad game. You know, even when they, they've had a bad quarter or a bad half, they've always found a way to bounce back.
27:26
And I, I think they're going into this game against Buffalo now at home with confidence. Obviously, beat the Bills earlier this season.
27:32
And as, as much as I would like to see, you know, another Josh Allen hero performance like we saw, [clears throat] excuse me, down the stretch last week, I, I, I just worry because the Bills have not really played a complete game to me in, in a month plus at this point.
27:44
They lost to Houston. They really struggled in that first half against Pittsburgh. They were on the ropes last week against Cincinnati before the two big defensive plays. I know Burrow played a phenomenal game.
27:54
Really could not have played better I, I thought until the interception. But you still have to be a little bit disappointed in Buffalo not taking more advantage of that Cincinnati defense.
28:03
You know, they scored two of their touchdowns on fourth downs. They're still struggling to gain consistency in the passing game. And you have a Pats team now coming off a bye.
28:10
They're a little healthier on the offensive line outside of Will Campbell, who's still not going to be out there this week. And, you know, the Bills have just been really mistake-prone for a good chunk of the season now.
28:19
12 turnovers in their last five games. Patriots have seven total turnovers during that 10-game winning streak. So, you know, I think Buffalo was able to rally back against a bad Pittsburgh team.
28:30
They were able to, to pull out a win against Cincinnati at home in the snow last week, conditions that in my mind should have favored the Buffalo Bills.
28:36
I, I, I think this is a spot where normally I would jump on Buffalo. I would buy back in on Josh Allen.
28:41
But, you know, like Baltimore, like Philly, like Kansas City, you know, the Bills aren't, aren't in those kind of dire straits.
28:46
But these traditional power teams that I would usually trust in this spot, I, I just can't get there. Okay. We have, as I mentioned, uh, last segment, we got five games.
28:55
Four or five, depending on where you see the, uh, the Cardinals game, uh- Mm-hmm... s- lined at right now, that are double-digit spreads, three of which are 13-point spreads or greater.
29:04
Um, we're showing 12 and a half on the Niners-Titans, but that, uh- Yeah... consensus is about 13. That's the game I was gonna ask you. Which of these games would you be most willing to lay the wood on? Yeah. This is it?
29:16
I think that's the one. I mean, the Eagles might just be untouchable right now. That's 10 and a half, 11 and a half.
29:21
I, I know it's the Raiders, and that's the ultimate cure-all, but I just don't know how you could bet Philly with confidence. J- Jags-Jets, I, I just wanna wait on the Jets quarterback situation before I jump in on that.
29:30
And then, you know, 13 and a half in that, in that Colts-Seahawks game.
29:33
I lean Seattle because that's the number one run defense in the NFL, and it's Riley Leonard, you know, kinda in the same spot that Max Brosmer was a couple weeks ago. We saw how that went.
29:42
But Niners minus 12 and a half i- is my favorite of that group.
29:45
I, I think the Niners are, you know, coming out of a bye as healthy as they'll be, which is still not that healthy, but as healthy as they'll be the rest of the way.
29:52
And I'm not really buying high on this Tennessee team after beating the Browns and knocking me out of Survivor, by the way, in the process last week. Ooh.
29:59
Y- y- you look at the advanced numbers, they had an 11th percentile success rate in that game offensively. It was really just a couple of big plays by Tony Pollard, which is uncharacteristic for that Browns defense.
30:10
And, you know, then the Browns just being the Browns. After leading this game at the half, Browns played horribly for four quarters, for the most part. Still were up 17 to 14 at the half. They begin the second half Punt.
30:20
Three and out punt. Three and out punt. Brutal interception. Three and out punt. Fumble deep in their own territory, and then a blocked punt. Like, these, these are things that happen to the Browns.
30:28
These are not things that happen to the 49ers. Tennessee just gave up 6.4 yards per play to the Cleveland Browns, 412 yards of offense.
30:36
[laughs] You're not gonna see those kind of mistakes that Cleveland was making, that Chad Sanders was making out of this Niners team. So I, I think Tennessee can hang in there defensively.
30:44
You know, they profile as a pretty good run defense. Maybe they can slow down McCaffrey. But ultimately, this is a game that I, I see playing out pretty similarly to that Browns-Niners game a couple weeks ago.
30:54
Right now, by the way, NFL draft order with four games left, there are three teams that are two and 11. Giants right now would have the number one pick. Las Vegas would have the two. Tennessee three.
31:05
Cleveland would lead the three and tens as the worst of the three and tens. They'd be fourth. That'd be the draft order right at this moment. Yeah. Um, Packers and Broncos, one of the good, uh, games- Mm-hmm...
31:15
this weekend. Two stout defenses. Totals 43 and a half. Is that low enough, Nick? It's just low enough for me to, to look under here. You know, I...
31:26
It- interesting certainly to see the Packers, you know, growing now to a two and a half point road favorite. I think still some skepticism on the Denver side of things.
31:34
Uh, you know, the Broncos have scored 24, 27 in overtime against your Commanders. 22, 10, and 18 points over the last five games.
31:42
They, of course, had a punt return last week against the Vegas, or against the Vegas Raiders that, that added to that total. Uh, it's just not a good offense. It hasn't been a good offense for most of the year.
31:51
And, you know, both of these teams obviously are excellent on the defensive side, and specifically they do not give up big plays. Green Bay has given up the third fewest.
31:58
Denver has given up the fourth fewest passing plays of 20-plus yards this season. Both defenses give up about two of those per game.
32:05
That's kinda how Green Bay has, has pushed over in each of these last two weeks, hitting deep balls to Christian Watson and even Bo Melton of all people before the half last week against Chicago.
32:14
You have a really good red zone defense, a really good third down defense in the Denver Broncos. Green Bay a little bit shakier on third down.
32:20
They have given up long drives over and over this season, which I think does play into the under. But ultimately, I, I think both of these teams tend to trend conservatively, especially Denver.
32:30
You know, despite winning all these games in a row, you know, it hasn't been really an offensive showcase very often. It's a team that's allowed one 100-yard rusher all season. That was Jonathan Taylor back in week two.
32:40
And since then, guys, they're giving up, like, 65 rushing yards per game to running backs. They're leading the NFL in yards per carry.
32:46
So I see this being more of an offensive slog, more of a defensive game overall for both sides. Nick- Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Th- this is the last...
32:53
I was just gonna say, this is the last one that I've got marked down that I'm probably gonna bet. I, I... Nick, I was just surprised to see over money early in the week on this game. So I'm not rushing- Yeah...
33:02
but it's ki- it's kinda settled in at 43 and a half it looks like. Yeah, I, I saw some 42 and a halves popping up as well, so I wanted to get in at, at this number. I, I could see it.
33:11
I mean, Green Bay's been more aggressive. They're putting the ball in the hands of Jordan Love. Maybe that continues. But, uh, I also don't think the Bears defense is all that good when they're not generating takeaways.
33:18
Yeah. So this is a, a big step-up in competition, and obviously Green Bay now heading out on the road as well. Last thing, Nick. You're a Jaguars fan. It's a, [clears throat]
33:27
you know, throw all the teams up in the air kind of AFC. Are you allowing yourself to believe that the Jags could get to the Super Bowl? Could this happen? No. Wow. No, I can't. I can't do that. Wow.
33:38
I can't do that to myself emotionally, no. Okay. Well. Who's b- who's booking the Nick Whalen Exacta? Pack- Packers and Jags. [laughs] Thank you, Nick. Appreciate it. Thank you, guys.
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34:26
We get tweets at Beat of the Book. Jesse Welch, "I parlayed all my plays today with Gild making a, uh, Family Guy reference on the show today. Now we're live, baby." That's right. One leg cashed. Quip. Ooh, quip.
34:38
Pittsburgh Billy, "Gild, did you wanna choke Puffy out after watching the documentary, or am I being overly aggressive?" Hey, listen, it's not even about that. It's about the fact that this dude is a monster.
34:50
I, uh, Kelly, I, I used to get my hair cut here in, uh, Las Vegas. I think I said this off air to you. Used to get my- You don't get your hair cut in Las Vegas anymore?
34:57
I do, but I used to get my ha- haircut off strip by this dude, Dave. Yeah. Great guy. [laughs] Tell us the story. But Dave, but Dave was one of these guys that was cutting your hair, he'd be like...
35:07
He would just tell me all these, like, random stor- like, outl- what I thought was, were outlandish stories. He goes, "You know p- you know Diddy killed Tupac, right?" Eh.
35:14
And I'm like, "Okay, just cut," in my head, I'm like, "Just cut my hair, please." You know? Like, I just wanted to get through it. Diddy, Diddy k- killed Tupac. He did all this.
35:21
Turns out it's all, everything Dave ever said was true. I told you, man. Everything. You need to b- you need to buy him a fruit basket. You were wrong.
35:28
Not even you were wrong, it was just he was right the whole time and you- Diddy-... you dismissed it as nonsense. Diddy allegedly, let me use that word, allegedly- Yeah, allegedly. Careful... I mean, Tupac,
35:38
Biggie in terms of just, like, letting security down for Biggie, in Biggie's case. Kim Porter doesn't even get addressed how did she die. You don't, you don't die of pneumonia that young.
35:52
Everybody who came around this guy died mysteriously. You know who else? You remember the actress Brittany Murphy? Not Brittany Murphy. What was her name? Was that her name? Yeah, Brittany Murphy. Yeah. How- Right?
36:01
Her husband was, like, friends with somebody in Diddy's circle or something. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that story. How'd she die mysteriously? It's just who knows what the extent of this is. Allegedly, of course.
36:11
I gotta watch the end of this. [laughs] You, you barely started. We'd be the end of it. Well, I gotta watch it. [laughs] It. Gotta watch it. How do you...
36:17
You, by the way, you said you watched half an episode, you got bored. How do you get bored watching that? Well, it just, you, you know, you're trying, um... I, I d- I get distracted by games and stuff.
36:24
There's games going. Oh, I know. You have to w- you have to wait for a night where there's no games. I'm not telling you to watch it during games. Wait for like- There's, there's games every night. No, not Sat.
36:31
This past Saturday was perfect night to, like-... five college football after that you can sit down and watch. Come on, pick your spots, man But- Spots... the casinos, the casinos need my donations.
36:39
[laughs] Uh, oh, we got more games to get to in the Whip Around. Yeah. Uh, still in the afternoon, Lions at Rams. Again, implications abound for the Lions.
36:49
It's, "Hey, man, we, we gotta make sure we get into the postseason."
36:53
For the Rams it's, "We're trying to win the West, we're trying to get the number one seed," but the West, the Seahawks and the Rams tied at 10 and three.
37:01
Rams right now currently the number one seed, and the Niners at nine and four. Rams are five-and-a-half point favorites.
37:07
This is going to be a fascinating game to watch because this is such a, uh, a barometer check for the Rams. 'Cause sometimes you watch the Rams, like the Rams during that game against the Cardinals this past week- Wow.
37:17
Okay... there was a point in that game where you're like, "Oh, this is the best team in the NFL." Yeah. And maybe it's not close. I think they are. But, but this will be fascinating. I'd actually go the other way.
37:26
I, I, I would- Barometer for the Lions. Yeah, 'cause this is- Yeah... w- you know, will the real Lions team please step up, right? I mean, will- Please stand up... are, are they really what we saw- Please stand up...
37:33
a week ago against the Cowboys, or is it what they were Thanksgiving against the Packers? I mean, this is the time of year, there's no more time to figure this out, Detroit. You gotta get...
37:41
You've had injuries, you've got excuses. Everybody's got excuses at this point, but you gotta start racking up wins. Uh, man, fi- I, I think the Rams are the best team in football, so I, I think you're right.
37:52
There's a question whether if it's [laughs] whether it's close or not is really the real question. Um- Lions right now on the outside looking in at eight- Yeah... and five. They're the eighth position in the NFC.
38:00
I can't wait to wa- oh, can't wait to watch that game. I will have no bet on it, side or total. Yep. Titans-Niners, Nick just, uh, made the case Nick Whelan did on, uh, laying the points with the Niners.
38:10
I've got nothing here. Jason H11 did a tweet in about, uh, 10-point teasers this week. Oh, yeah, that's right. Love this one. Love this n- this Niners leg. Um- The Jason H11 tweet was, he said, uh, now I can't find it.
38:25
Seahawks anything, uh, like now that it's 13 and a half, that's not as sexy. Oh, Eagles, Jags, Niners, Seahawks. So he basically took all the huge favorites. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
38:32
'Cause you could take Jags down to two and a half. Maybe add Patriots. He said, "What could possibly go wrong?" [laughs] Yeah. Pro- I don't trust... I mean, this is crazy, right?
38:40
If I came to you from the future and I said, "One of your 10-point teaser legs didn't get home," who's the, who's the leg that didn't get home? Uh, the Jags or the Eagles. That's why I would not bet this. Yeah.
38:49
I, I am v- I'm interested in the idea. If we're talking Niners, Seahawks, I don't know who the third team I'm running to add is.
38:57
So Eagles against the Raiders you would think is dicey based on the way the Eagles are playing- Yeah... despite how bad the, uh, Raiders are. And the, uh, and the Jag-uiars,
39:08
uh, Jaguars hosting the Jets you think is dicey. I mean, are you w- are you really- No. I, before you even ask, no, I'm not sure about anything with the Jags. [laughs] You don't even have to speak.
39:19
I already know where you're going. It's a great show when Gil and I- Yes... just read each other's minds. Yeah. [laughs] Like I, like am I living in, in the past? Am I the guy who needs to catch up to this Jags team?
39:28
[laughs] Like, is everybody gonna act like they're truly shocked when they look like a five-win team all of a sudden any one of these weeks?
39:36
This is the, you know how people ask sportsbook operators, "What's your biggest liability?" Yeah.
39:40
Like, "With which team wins the championship what's your biggest li-" what's the Kelly Bidlin liability, the Jaguars if they win? No, but I guess, I mean, I have no futures like against- Yeah...
39:46
them or anything, but yes, like if they w- they're gonna make the playoffs- Yeah... and I'm going to likely be betting against them at every step of the way. Larry Fresh on Twitter says, "Gil, always trust your barber."
39:56
[laughs] Oh, dude, dude. I can't tell you how many times I left there and I'm like, "Oh," with the Diddy killing Tupac stuff. I, I didn't wanna interrupt that story. Yeah. But you, you know my barber.
40:05
You've been to him as, uh, as well. Truman. Tru- Truman is a conspiracy theory nut as well. I mean, I just, I sit there and learn every time. Well, they just- I learn something new every time, bro...
40:15
it's a, it's a job where they only have themselves and their thoughts rattling around their own heads. It's, it's really that. Yeah. And, and, and great conversationalists. It's great conversations.
40:21
Truman's a good friend of mine. I, we, I, I have a great time with him every time, but I, I learn something new every time I go.
40:27
Mike P, "Earlier this week you guys mentioned saying you don't hear separately pomp and circumstance. May I present to you prim and proper, and it's currently 37- Ooh...
40:34
but feels like 18 in Kansas City with 22 mile per hour winds." Man, it is cold around this nation. Yep, yep. Uh, pr- uh- Prim and proper, you're right... prim is like the pomp there, right?
40:43
No, no, nobody says- You can hear proper, but you don't hear prim so. No, you're very, you're being very prim. Nobody says that. It's very true. Yep, well done.
40:51
Boy, I didn't, I didn't know broad daylight was gonna spark this entire cottage industry. It's awesome. I, I- Yeah... uh, Gil loves this. I love it.
40:59
The, my guys trip to Montreal, I, how I just, I don't even know how we r- it, some- [laughs]... another saying got brought up and I told the whole broad daylight story. Yeah. I did not think that was gonna catch on.
41:09
I regret it now. I did not think it was gonna catch on like it did. Rest of the trip it's- Oh, the rest of the trip all the guys just like, "Kelly, in broad daylight, man. In broad daylight."
41:17
I was like, "Oh my God, shut up, Drew." The, the, the, uh, origin of that being I said, "Nothing good happens in broad daylight." You don't say, "Hi, how you doing?"
41:26
You don't say, "Oh, well, I met him in broad daylight." It's just always something bad. "Oh, he got murdered in broad daylight," or something like that.
41:31
And if you've worked, I mean, if you've worked at local news like- Oh...
41:34
I have for so many years here, Gil's say that and just realizing, oh my God, like it is how many stories are run a week where it's like in broad daylight. Yeah. You know, it is.
41:43
You know what the one that, that I love with local news? And it's very local news. If there is a, uh, a fire, some arson occurs, they don't wanna say the word fire too many times in the reports. They always use blaze.
41:55
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's a thing. Yeah. Nobody ever in real life goes, "Oh my God, the blaze is unbelievable." That's a, that's a- But yeah... that's a writing thing. Yeah.
42:02
Both, both TV, uh, in, in, in print, right? Yeah. You, you don't wanna use the same word over and over again, but then it, it bec- it hits a point where it sounds silly. Sunday night, Vikings at Cowboys.
42:13
Cowboys favored by five and a half, and yes, the Cowboys still have designs on the NFC East. I mean, we talked about this Monday. Oh, you laying the points.
42:21
You and I were both, yeah, you and I were both interested what was like six, six and a half on Monday. Yeah, yeah. Five and a halfs hit the board yesterday. I, I, I bought in on Dallas. Uh, this is- I might be there.
42:29
Might be a contest pick for me... Vikings defense has, has been extremely impressive, right? Mm-hmm. I, I will give them that I, I'm, you gotta show it to me again, McCarthy.
42:38
I know the Cowboys defense is not that good, but, uh, the, it's gotten a little better. McCarthy's had one good week. Let, let's calm down a little bit. Monday night, Dolphins, Steelers.
42:47
I bet the Steelers on, uh, guessing lines on Monday. Um, and I did not get the best of this. I got the Steel- oh, yes I did. Steelers minus three and a half. I did, but I didn't get minus 105. I got minus 110 anyway.
43:00
But yeah, Steelers minus three and a half. I'm surprised it's this low. At Acrisure. Three Yinzers out there.
43:06
No, you got the, the, the Dolphins are another one of these teams that for some reason is trying way too hard down the stretch. So, like, and that- Dolphins have the same record as the Chiefs and the Ravens...
43:16
I, I was just gonna say, they might be looking better now than they have at, like, any point this season. Mike McDaniel's the happiest man in America. Nobody talks about him anymore. Yeah. Weird, man. Yeah.
43:26
This is, it's a dud Monday night, but don't worry, Thursday night- So I got-... Seahawks and Rams... so I got Packers, Bengals, Steelers, and Bills. I made all four of those.
43:35
Real quick before we go to break, 'cause we're gonna talk, uh, NFL again with, uh, Warren Sharp. Uh, college football first round playoff games. Do you make a bet on any of these four?
43:42
Uh, no, but I'm intrigued by Bama- Bama's the one I'm gonna make... Miami- I'm gonna make the Bama bet... and Oregon. Oh, all of them? So which ones? Alabama, what else? Miami and Oregon.
43:52
I am definitely gonna make the Bama bet against Oklahoma, laying the one and a half. I don't know about the rest of them. I really don't. Who do we have? We had Will. Did, did Fleeky like Oregon yesterday, too? Uh.
44:00
I think we had someone else that liked Oregon. I don't know. You copied all his picks. Shouldn't you know? Okay. No, I copied his bracket- Oh, that's true... and he did have Oregon going very far. That's true.
44:07
That's true. Just a reminder. Um, though I will say this. Again, the only future I have is Indiana 10 to 1 to win it all from earlier in the season.
44:14
But if I were making a bet now, if you forced me to make a bet now on the futures market, I think Georgia would be my play. Just have a sneaky suspicion about Georgia. I like it. Yeah. But Indiana's 10 to 1. Six to one.
44:27
Let's go. They do look like they have the cleanest path, right? Georgia's six to one. I don't know. A lot of clear paths in there. Indiana's got a pretty good run, too, I think. Until late, of course.
44:37
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