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Feb 4, 2026
A Numbers Game | February 4, 2026 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | February 4, 2026 | Hour 2
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They always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
1:08
Hour number two of a Numbers Game at VSiN, eSports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, SiriusXM Channel 158. It's Gil Alexander. Kelly Bidlin alongside.
1:20
I just saw this, uh, tweet, thanks to, uh, Felika and Will, uh, from NBA Central, where they said the Heat are reportedly trying to land Giannis and Ja Morant without giving up Bam or Norm Powell, per, uh, Steve Popper.
1:34
And, uh, somebody responded. Somebody goes, "I'm trying to bag Sydney Sweeney and Sofia Vergara without giving up my Nissan Altima." [laughs] It's basically the, basically the gist of that. Yeah. I...
1:45
The Ja-Miami Heat situation is interesting. 'Cause, like, I, I think in theory he, he would fit there, but, like, this is...
1:54
The Miami Heat just hired the assistant coach that was with Memphis that brought his offensive style to Miami that Ja Morant hated in Memphis, but, like, you could get him on the cheap.
2:05
So I, it's gonna be interesting to watch that one. I meant what I said earlier, that there was a package for Desmond Bane last year. There was one for Jaren Jackson just now. There has yet to be one for Ja Morant.
2:14
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Says a lot. Oh, this is, by the way, this is, uh- It's incredible... it's, we gotta show this. This is the 2018 lottery for the N- NBA draft. Mm-hmm.
2:22
These are the lottery picks of the 2018 NBA draft.
2:24
Remember, this was the last true tank-a-thon that got the Phoenix Suns Deandre Ayton, who ended up being a cog in the wheel that got them to the NBA finals, by the way, it should be mentioned.
2:34
Like, thank God, 'cause I don't know what he's, what he's gonna be able to save for the rest of his career. But with the Trae Young to Washington deal and the Jaren Jackson Jr. to Mem- to, uh, pardon me, to Utah deals,
2:44
that on the heels of Luka going to the Lakers famously last year. Every single player in that lottery... Can we go back to it, guys? Let's throw it up one more time. Shai's in there as well, by the way, right?
2:56
I mean, great players. Everybody's been traded now. It's wild. Yeah, I mean, that's the most shocking part, right?
3:01
It'd be, it'd be different if we were dunking on this draft like, "Wow, this is such crap," like, look back at how everybody got moved. No, it's [laughs] Luka Doncic, Jaren Jackson Jr. Shai, Trae, they're all in there.
3:13
All been traded. I guess the only one, I mean, got traded on draft night, the... And this might be the most shocking.
3:18
I think the only guy that's still left on a team with the, the big logo next to it is Miles Bridges- [laughs]... which, oh boy, he would've been the biggest long shot on here, like, as of a year and a half ago.
3:28
And by the way, you could make the argument that Mikal Bridges got traded for the most. Yeah, he did. Five firsts. It's not an argument. It's just fact. [laughs] Yeah. It's just fact. Yeah.
3:38
Well, I mean, you could, you could debate players, I guess, right? Right, yeah. But, but yeah, in terms of just capital like that. I mean, Trae and Luka got sold on the cheap. Like, it's wild. What a league.
3:50
What a league. What a league. We got tweets beating the book. Uh, "Bye week picks. When will you discuss fun props regarding Bad Bunny? Some PPH have decent limits."
4:00
Yeah, I sort of said from the beginning, uh, bye week, uh, you may have missed it. I did the national anthem. This is the first year where I'm out on the ha- on, on halftime.
4:09
Because, yeah, you're right, there's a lot of good stuff out there. His first song, his last song. Will he give Puerto Rico a shout-out? Which by the way, yes, I think is heavily juiced. I think he will.
4:19
Will he give the Bay a shout-out? I mean, there's so many different things. Will, will he call out Ice? Will a politician show up? Will, uh, will Cardi B be on stage with him? There's lots of stuff.
4:28
But I don't know enough. Like, I, I can't tell you if "Ti Te Pregunto" or "Nuevo Yol" or "Baile Inolvidable," "La Mudanza," "DTMF," Kelly. Yeah.
4:41
Not only could I not tell you if any of those are gonna be the first song, I can't tell you which is which. See- Is that the most dad comment I've ever made on this show before? Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah, it is.
4:49
I have become my father. Pro- pro- probably is. [laughs] I, I really, I j- I just don't know. I, and I said I don't wanna act like I, I have any insight.
4:56
I really do think that the last couple years, getting the leak on the setlist Friday is still the best way to bet this. Mm-hmm. Although, as Will pointed out, I think, last week, the NFL is aware of these leaks. Yeah.
5:09
So maybe they try to push back on that. Yeah, I, it, I'm interested to see what happens with that type of stuff, 'cause that was, that did come out, uh, what, a couple weeks ago, I think.
5:17
I, I saw something like- Sorry to have let you down bye week, by the way.
5:19
Yeah, it's, uh, look, I mean, well, I, I do think the, the point of caution there, right, is, like, we often complain about some of these markets where we can't find somewhere to get down enough.
5:28
But, like, you know, there's the early steps of that first where you gotta make sure you know what you're betting.
5:33
And that is, like, if you're looking to get, you know, significant money down, you better know what's gonna happen. Yep. Brian Moran in.
5:38
"I need a ruling on if I can check off, uh, Greg Peterson twerking on my Numbers Game bingo card." Yep, pretty sure you can. I felt like that was a twerk for a second. Uh, it was, it was a half a twerk. Yeah.
5:47
Half a twerk. He had, he had to get the booty in the, in the camera, uh- That's right... range. That's right. Frame. Sorry, ladies. [laughs] I can't believe he wears dress pants. I cannot believe it.
5:56
[laughs] Merle, Merle Betts, "Morning, fellas.
5:57
Would Gil have any recommendations for food and beverage for a Super Bowl 60 party to reflect highlights From the San Francisco Bay Area, any personal favorites or local staples? Thanks guys. Love the show as always.
6:06
Thank you, Merle Betts. Uh, for a party, meaning there's a lot of people, uh, for a par- so I, yeah, the, the normal recommendations that I have to...
6:14
'Cause if I was just giving you normal rec- recommendations, I would say, "Hey, go to La Taqueria in, in, uh, the Mission for burritos." Um, I'll say for a group of people, except I don't know if there's, there's TVs.
6:26
So this is a, this is a tough question to answer, right? 'Cause normally then I would say go Dungeness crab and garlic noodles at Thanh Long, but there are no TVs for the Super Bowl.
6:34
So I'm not really sure I have a good food place for a big Super Bowl party with actual great San Francisco food. Once again, I've let down the listener. That's two in a row now.
6:47
Well, I thought he was just asking for, like, San Francisco foods he should- Oh, okay. Well then Dungeness crab and garlic noodles at Thanh Long, or Crustacean. Again, burritos at La Taqueria in the Mission.
6:56
No, stuff he should make, right? Didn't he say at h- a party at home? Oh. So, like, that reflect highlights of the city. I don't know. Make a- So burritos... make, make clam chowder in a bread- [laughs] Yeah...
7:05
in a bread bowl. Exactly. Do that. Do clam chowder in a, uh, what do you call it? What's the name of that bread again? Uh. Sourd- sourdough bread bowl. Ugh. Yeah. Sourd- sourdough bread. Yuck. [laughs] Yuck. There we go.
7:16
There's Kelly's review on it. Or, or you just make a big bowl of Rice-A-Roni, right, Gil? Ah, yeah. [laughs] Nobody, nobody has r- that's the thing. Nobody does Rice-A-Roni in San Francisco.
7:24
Derby Day Day, uh, running a mini marathon, showering, putting on a suit with slacks, and knocking out prez trivia all before 8:00 AM. Many a Numbers Game listeners- Oh...
7:32
yours truly included, lucky to tick off one of those. Keep grinding hoops. I meant to seize on that moment too. Like, what if we just quizzed every guest that came on?
7:39
Like, "Uh, most important, uh, uh, battle in Revolutionary War." [laughs] And the outcome of it, right? Like- President number 21, go. [laughs] Chester A. Arthur, by the way.
7:51
Jim DeAltorio, very sad news regarding the Washington Post sports department. Yeah, man, pour one out for the Post sports department. I can't get over it. I really can't.
8:00
Okay, we got more to read, uh, on tweets, but let's get to this. So Super Bowl MVP, I have yet to bet this. Sam Darnold now down to plus 120. What am I waiting for?
8:08
There's a number over there, uh, uh, somewhere here in town that's better than that, which I will take. But Sam Darnold, to me, and plus money is still a great bet. What, what's the best you've seen? 130? 135. Oh, okay.
8:17
That's- Yeah... yeah. Uh, Sam Darnold at plus 120 at DraftKings. Drake May, plus 235. Jackson Smith-Njigba, plus 550. Kenneth Walker, plus 650.
8:26
So the market's saying, yeah, maybe it's not Sam Darnold, which I don't agree with. Next Patriot, by the way, after Drake May is Ramondre all the way at 28 to 1. You gonna bet Darnold here?
8:40
Uh, yeah, I'll probably end up with something small on him. It's, I, I would like to do something more exciting and look further down the board, but man, we've talked about this a lot. I'm with you.
8:52
I, I think that's, I think quarterbacks are still the by far the most likely outcomes for both of these teams. Do, can we run the stats on that kind of thing right here- Mm-hmm... that we have?
9:00
Super Bowl winners by position, MVP winners by position. Uh, no surprise, quarterback has been the winner, uh, let's call it seven of the la- Let's go back to that, guys. Seven out of the last nine years.
9:14
Seven out of the last nine years, a quarterback has been the winner. The only exceptions to that, Cooper Kupp and Julian Edelman in, uh, Super Bowls, I'll do my Roman numerals here, 56 and 53 before that.
9:28
Edelman being the longest shot of the bunch at 25 to 1. Even Cooper Kupp was only six to one. Von Miller, the most recent defensive player back at Super Bowl 50 for the Broncos at 25 to 1.
9:39
Now, just in terms of the entire Super Bowl group, all 59 that have been played, quarterbacks by far out of 59. The other graphic guys here- 34... that you're just putting up, 34 quarterbacks out of 59.
9:51
But really weighted, you know, even more so recently as we just documented. 10 defensive players total is next, seven running backs, but that's really how it used to be in the NFL. Right, right. Right?
10:05
Wide outs, we just named two in the last 10, the five total, and then one kick return or punt return.
10:09
I believe that was Desmond Howard, if I'm not mistaken, um, for the Packers when they beat the Patriots, when, uh, Bill Parcells was coaching the, uh, the Patriots back in the day.
10:18
So that's, that's the breakdown of Super Bowl winners by position, um, and then the Super Bowl winners in the last 10 years. So Von Miller, the most, uh, recent defensive player to win then of the 10.
10:30
And we ha- we had co-winners once back when the Cowboys won it, Harvey Martin and Randy White. I believe that was Super Bowl 12, if I'm not mistaken, against the Broncos.
10:40
But again, that's not a thing that typically happens. Yeah, so y- you were watching, if you're watching at home, 34 quarterbacks, uh, seven running backs, five wide receivers, 10 defenders.
10:49
The, the kick and punt returner, like you said. If we go from just 1998, this is where I think it's, it's interesting to see what's happened more recently, right? The quarterbacks continue.
10:57
Absolutely, the quarterbacks continue, but you, like you noted, Gil, the wide receivers, right? Right. Wide receivers, it's been five since then. 'Cause the game, the game has changed. The game has changed.
11:04
And we've had three, three linebackers, one defensive back. Um, running backs and defenders, man, like this is a, I, I know we wanna go there, but like you said, this is kind of past, past thinking.
11:14
And yeah- 1998, the last time a running back won Super Bowl MVP. I'm guessing that was T- uh, Terrell Davis of the Broncos. Yes.
11:21
So yeah, I mean, that's, it's quarterback, and if it's not quarterback, it's, it's a wide out- Mm-hmm... is basically what we're saying. You had Von Miller 2016, Malcolm Smith 2014. So you know, worth noting.
11:33
It could still happen, but it's, man, that's, that's how rare it is though, right? Dexter, Dexter Jackson of the Bucs, the last defensive back to win. That was after the 2002 season when he did it for the Bucs, won MVP.
11:46
And then Larry Brown, we, uh, actually brought up Larry Brown earlier on the show for after the 1995 season with the Cowboys. I wanna say he had three picks in that game. Is that true? Three?
11:55
Am I overshooting that by one? Sounds right. Um, and the other defenders besides Dex- Jackson and Larry Brown, not secondary players. So there it is. And, and it is.
12:04
Like, if I was gonna go to a defender, like in this game, Gil, I'd still be looking for the guy that could rack up most sacks, strip sacks, that type of thing, kind of like we talked about with Samaje yesterday, as opposed to a defensive back I, I, I'm not...
12:15
I, I think that's asking a whole lot of a defensive back That, that's a recent list, by the way. Mm.
12:19
I know Jake, Jake Scott of the Dolphins, if you go way back in Super Bowl history, there were, there was another D-back to win it. But it, it's so rare. So if you're thinking, "Hey, Christian Gonzalez," it just, just...
12:30
The path to win it is so narrow. We talked about betting some of those props. I just think it's a better way to go. Even same game parlay. This should've been a segment we save for our Sunday show.
12:39
Yeah, maybe we'll run it back. Maybe we'll run it back. Maybe that was the plan. [laughs] Maybe that was the plan. Maybe I shouldn't have said that out loud.
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14:12
UNLV- Oh my God, I did see this this morning... and Fresno State. Yeah. Yeah. Uh- What a screw-up... this is, uh, I mean, unbelievable. So UNLV
14:22
on the wrong side of absolute chaos at 2:00 AM last night Pacific time, a three-plus-hour game, 80 combined free throw attempts, eight official reviews. Yikes.
14:33
Which is, uh, which is insane enough, but then Fresno State down by five with seven seconds left, they go on a seven-nothing run in regulation to win it. A game-tying three with 1.5 seconds left.
14:49
UNLV does the thing where they throw it all the way down court and no one touches it. So Fresno- Right... State gets possession again- Under the basket... under the basket. Yeah. The guy hits a two and wins it. Okay.
14:59
It is... That's funny. I only saw the last two. I didn't, I didn't realize seven points were made up. I only saw the last two shots. That's incredible.
15:05
I, uh, what, what I'm not curious about, 'cause I didn't watch it then, how did they get the ball back for the three? How did they g- how did they cut it from seven to five and then get the ball back for the three?
15:14
Oh, a flagrant, I'm being told. A flagrant. So one of... Is that one of the reviews that we were just talking about? So then, yeah, so then they hit the three, and then [laughs]
15:23
they, they throw the touchdown pass that goes incomplete on the other, all the way to the other end of the court, so Fresno State gets the ball back and they score again. Unbelievable. Man. We got tweets. Be in the book.
15:34
Always appreciated from everybody.
15:35
Jason McKinney, "Missed the last couple of days due to work meetings, and I'm not sure you've covered this, but is Roger Goodell and the NFL going to be that arrogant to have Big Game 61 on Valentine's Day?
15:44
What a cluster. You know what that will be." Yes, he is that arrogant. They are that arrogant. And yes, it will be on Valentine's Day next year. Super Bowl on Valentine's Day. Yeah. Ladies, built-in excuse for everybody.
15:57
[laughs] Sorry. Sorry. Sorry about that. Just Saturday night. Valentine's Day, the most overrated holiday. Oh, it's terrible. Here, men, you gotta do something. Mm-hmm. Really?
16:09
What about the other 364 days where I do something? Enright. Gotta still do it. That's Stephen Enright. "My sister lived in DC. She took me to see Jordan score a career low versus the Bullets.
16:19
Went to Clyde's for brunch, read my first Washington Post sports section. I miss newspapers." Man, Clyde's is great in DC. Clyde's in Northwest. Two locations, by the way, for Clyde's.
16:29
Or actually one on Wisconsin Avenue now. Is there a second one still? I always think of Blackie's as the other one. Uh, Buddhist Man saying, "When I grow up, I hope I have a job that I enjoy as much as this guy."
16:39
Picture of you, Kelly, leaning back, laughing in your chair. Love James. Uh, Scotty, "Leisure suit, leisure suit Kobe.
16:45
Gil, would you and Kelly agree, even as a Lakers fan, I think the SGA-Clippers trade is the worst trade, even worse than the Luka trade. Also, I don't understand the Bad Bunny hate people have.
16:54
I've been a fan since I was a kid. Bad Bunny, Donald Duck, Tweety Bird, huge parts of my childhood." I don't even, I don't even know if it's... It's not even as much- It's not even hate... hate, Gil. It's not hate.
17:02
I just, I can't remember so- the last Super Bowl halftime show where I've flat out heard from people, "I just don't know who that is." I just don't know. I, I... It's not hate at all. I am indifferent.
17:12
Brian Schaefer, "All the odds on the T-Wolves from positive to negative on Giannis," he says, meaning in minus numbers he's talking about. C plus 426. No. Oh, yeah. No, that's Josh. [laughs] That's Josh.
17:23
I'm all over the place on Calchi right now. [laughs] I actually just, I just played a little, uh, Kobe White- He said Ca-... to be traded... he said Calchi odds did the same. Is that true?
17:30
Is it Minnesota in minus money now? Mm, they weren't- Are they?... the last time I checked. Uh, it's- Plus 733. Yeah, I don't know what you were- Min- uh, stay is up to minus 223.
17:39
Not sure what you were looking at there, Brian. But he says, "Glad I went on Calchi and made that bet early for big profit. Now come on, T-Wolves, make it happen."
17:46
Well, they still might, but it's not in, it's not in minus money. I have, Gil, a little bit, a little bit on Minnesota and Golden State, and for him to stay in Milwaukee. I got them all at- Oh, there you go...
17:56
plus numbers yesterday. Minnesota and Golden State I have over 10 to 1. I'm on Golden State. So I will be okay if he gets moved to either one of those. And Scott, New York, Mets 16. Thanks, Gil.
18:06
I was one of the UNLV plus one and a half guys with a tough, what a tough beat. Oh, gosh, the spread came into play too. Awful. Brutal. Brutal.
18:14
Uh, Brian M says, "2-15-2027, the day after the Super Bowl is President's Day. It's what people have been asking for for years."
18:22
Wait, so we have Valentine's Day followed by the n- followed the next day by President's Day? Oh, because President's Day happens to be the third Monday of February, and on the 15th, that's...
18:34
It onl- only when the first Monday falls on the 1st do we get that. Wow, what a cluster. Derek Gwynn, "I heard, uh, Greg Peterson took Marshall versus Southern Miss.
18:46
Gotta remember that both teams were Conference USA before joining the Sun Belt. Both schools dislike each other a lot. I see Southern Miss playing hard. I have Seattle minus four and a half."
18:54
[laughs] Oh, in the Super Bowl. Have a good Super Bowl weekend. You too, Derek Gwynn. Threw in the Super Bowl pick as well. All right. Uh, what's the, what are the current Giannis odds then, Kelly?
19:03
Yeah, right now we have Stays minus 223, Minnesota plus 733, Golden State plus 1011, Miami plus 1150, and then we drop all the way to Chicago at plus 3223. What's Golden State again?
19:21
They are a little over 10 to 1. Oh. I pl- I played them when they got to double digits yesterday- Wow... last night too. Drop, drop, drop. Okay. I mean, look, we, we... I know we were talking a lot about this offer too.
19:31
We haven't... Like, Golden State's still reportedly given the best offer. Yep. They're waiting on the sidelines. Yep. Kuminga's still there. Yep.
19:38
Like, I think it's a lot of, for if you're Golden State or a Golden State backer like you and me last night now, I don't think anything's really changed.
19:46
Like, they've got the best offer in, and I think Milwaukee's saying to all these other teams, like, "All right, we've got one. What else can you guys do?"
19:52
Golden State should call every hour and just be like, "It's still us." Yeah. "Still the best offer." Yeah. "Still us." Anyway, little more than 24 hours. I do not know, Gil.
20:00
Like I know we've talked about the past couple days, no idea what is going on with the Chicago Bulls right now. Like, I don't know what the plan is. I, I, I just played some Coby White to be traded, uh, minus 400.
20:11
The, the backcourt right now, we went over some of these trades earlier. This is so, who's on their roster. Josh Giddey, Coby White, Trey Jones, Anfernee Simons, Jaden Ivey, Mike Conley, and Ayo Dosunmu- Yes...
20:22
all in their backcourt. I was gonna say, they have no bigs. They have no bi- Uh, they got six guards and like three of them are like the same human being.
20:28
[laughs] So I mean, yes, Coby White has been expected to be traded from this team. I assume he gets moved and this gets a little thinner, but man, it's a little odd right now. Yeah.
20:38
Uh, Terry Elkins says about the UNLV thing, he says, "They need a shot clock on these endless reviews." And, uh, Sean Fox plays, "Are we getting ready to see the return of pocket rockets in Chicago?
20:46
They have like eight guards now that deserve to play." Yeah. "And Jalen Smith and overpaid Patrick Williams." No, he isn't overpaid 'cause he went to Florida State. Go Canes.
20:53
[laughs] Uh, what about actual NBA games tonight? You have any plays? I actually do have a bet. Yeah. So, okay, a couple, and a- actually, I might have gotten turned on to one more, uh, doing Hardwood Handicappers.
21:04
JVT brought this up. So look, I think first off, PSA, right? This is be very careful today, right? We saw how many guys get moved yesterday.
21:12
It's gonna be a lot of the same today, and I'll point to a couple matchups like Timberwolves-Raptors.
21:18
Timberwolves are in the middle of trying to execute a Giannis Antetokounmpo trade, and the Toronto Raptors are in the middle of trying to get Domantas Sabonis in town. I don't...
21:25
You don't know what players could be ruled out before lineups are announced before the tip of this game. It's such a, such a good point. Yeah. So like just be careful, be careful.
21:31
Now, I do think, JVT brought this up, and I, I skipped right over this game. Cavs-Clippers tonight. Comical, right? They are playing in LA, the Cavaliers and the Los Angeles Clippers.
21:42
I actually, I kind of skipped by this one because okay, the rosters are overhauled. James Harden's switching locker rooms, that sort of thing. I do, I think I'm gonna play Cleveland here because there is this...
21:52
It's not about adding James Harden. It's about removing James Harden from this Clippers team, which I think is gonna take a little while for them to adjust. So I haven't played it yet.
22:01
I think I will end up on Cleveland here tonight, though. Definitely lean to that side. Thought it was a great point, uh, by JVT on that game.
22:07
The one I played last night, put it in at vsin.com, although the number's about s- the same still. I played the Spurs, Gil. I, I really didn't think I was gonna get involved in another one of these matchups.
22:16
I'm backing on the Thunder and Spurs. This, no, I... If, if I just had every dollar back that I've bet on this matchup this season, my NBA season would be so much better right now, the Thunder-Spurs matchup. Ah.
22:27
This time I'm actually on the Spurs side, though, so- Hey, finally you're here with us... yeah, let's see if the Spurs, uh, take an L today. Uh, both these teams six and four over their last 10.
22:36
B- uh, Oklahoma City, keep an eye out for injuries today. They've had lengthy injury report past couple weeks. AJ Mitchell right now questionable for this team. You're not gonna have Jalen Williams in there.
22:47
Uh, a couple guys out for San Antonio. Jeremy Sochan is out, and then you've got Dylan Harper and Stephon Castle are questionable right now. I'm expecting Harper to go, and hopefully Castle.
22:57
Um, I took a piece of plus two, though. Oklahoma City is off a back-to-back heading into San Antonio. Uh, do like the Spurs, six and four over their last 10.
23:06
Still one of the top net ratings in the league every single week that you go to look at that type of stuff. So I'm gonna take the Spurs. I thought this would be closer to a pick 'em.
23:13
Uh, Spurs trying to, uh, beat the Thunder for the fourth time this year- Yeah... if I'm not mistaken. Um, did lose the last time they played, though, to the Thunder after beating them three times in a row.
23:23
Um, you made the best point there, though, which is on a night before the trade deadline, tread lightly. Yeah, gotta be careful.
23:29
Uh, when, when the teams involved have designs on moving players, acquiring players, that kind of thing.
23:36
And this is really when you learn with NBA handicappers, if you follow any NBA handicappers, this is when you really learn who's actually following the league versus who's just so immersed- Mm-hmm...
23:47
in their numbers that the blinders are on and they have no consideration of these kinds of things, right? I mean, you can't tell me.
23:54
Like, you can't tell me you have any idea who's playing for the Timberwolves or Raptors tonight. Right. Like, it's, it... A bunch of guys could be pulled out of lineups over there.
24:00
So, so if someone releases a play on that game, just know they're, they're the ones who have the blinders on and are just like, "Nah, I'm just looking at my numbers. This line makes no sense," kind of thing. Mm-hmm.
24:08
Uh, we will come back with Nick Whelan talking Super Bowl 60 with us, he from Rotowire. That's next. Numbers Game, VSiN, the sports betting network.
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Pick six in a punt return touchdown, 60 to 1. It's called long shots," he says. Yeah, we've got a couple Marcus Jones this ye- this week Got a bunch of Marcus Jones this week. Yeah. Mr.
24:47
Masterline, "There are six Clyde's left. Used to be, like, 10 of them. Best in the '90s and the, uh, the aughts." Yeah, that was my recollection as well. Clyde's were more abundant.
24:57
Now I just go to the Wisconsin Avenue one when I'm in, in town.
25:00
Jason Stark talking about the game last night between UNLV and Fresno State, said, "The most dreaded words in college basketball, 'They're going to go to the monitor to look at this.' Usually no reason for it.
25:10
Destroys the rhythm of the game and makes the game s- runs 20 minutes extra. Don't miss this in February and March." Yeah, so what he's referring to again, when, uh, when UNLV was up five,
25:22
they, it was a f- they, oh, somebody whacked somebody across the face, Wyatt Tomchek was telling me, and there was no initial call on the court, but they're like, "Well, we gotta go to the monitor to check this out."
25:33
So they got the flagrant. That cut it to, to, to c- uh, to three I believe it was, if I'm not mistaken. Um, maybe I have the timeline on that wrong, or, or that c- or the, okay, that is correct.
25:44
So that went to three, and then the subsequent three to tie it. The baseball pass over everybody gave them f- gave Fresno State the ball back, they win it. Uh, Jason Stark said, "I lost UNLV money line on that crap.
25:56
Thank God I was asleep. Just woke up to a loss. Being on the East Coast, I wouldn't have slept all night." Oh, the old Schrodinger's cat wake-up, huh?
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Yeah, it was like 3:00 in the morning I think I heard that, when that ended. Richard Burkhardt, "Yo, where are all the MLB futures at? Asking for a friend, Mike Alvarez."
26:10
[laughs] Now, oh, oh, now we want the M- MLB futures, do we? Oh, Mike. Uh, Nick Whelan joins us now courtesy of the Progressive guest line. He, of course, senior writer over at Roto Wire.
26:19
You can follow him on Twitter @Whelan. Just substitute the, uh, letter L for the number one. Nick, how you doing, man? Doing great, guys. I mean, Super Bowl week, it's trade deadline week.
26:30
We already have plenty of action in the NBA, so, uh, a lot to look forward to I think as we get closer and closer to the deadline tomorrow.
26:38
And the Jeff Erickson, Nick Whelan, or Nick Whelan, Jeff Erickson, uh, Prop Points begins six days from now, correct? February 10th. That's right. That's right.
26:47
Uh, Hanson gets the, the day after the Super Bowl to, to officially, you know, grade all of his props and, and react, and then we take it over on the 10th.
26:55
And look, if people are looking for MLB futures, there will be plenty of that on the Whelan, Erickson edition of Prop Points. Okay. Um, let's get the NBA out of the way. You have a play tonight?
27:07
Yeah, I think it's an interesting slate.
27:08
I think there are some spots, you know, as we get closer to the trade deadline where you could take advantage, you know, especially with some of these teams that have either made trades or might make trades.
27:16
You'll have, you know, players surprisingly ruled out or mysteriously out of the lineup, uh, due to personal absences.
27:23
So, uh, the game that jumped out to me right away, uh, as far as, you know, already having some of those situations is Grizzlies-Kings in the Western Conference. Two very bad teams. Memphis has been in a free fall.
27:33
Obviously, they traded Jaren Jackson Jr. yesterday, which is the official announcement that this team will be tanking the rest of the season and essentially entering a rebuild.
27:43
Uh, they now have 13 first-round picks, by the way, in the next seven drafts. So this is one where I, I don't love a side. You know, it's basically a toss-up.
27:51
You know, Kings are one-and-a-half-point home favorites, but you have two bottom five defenses. You have a Grizzlies team that really will only have, like, 9 or 10 guys available.
27:59
They'll be dipping into some of their two-way contracts. They'll be short-handed after that trade yesterday. Domantas Sabonis is questionable for Sacramento.
28:07
So I look at DeMar DeRozan, uh, as somebody who's actually, you know, been consistent at least for the Sacramento Kings. I think over 27.5 points, rebounds, assists for him is a good spot.
28:17
Ty Jerome is back in action for the Grizzlies. He's played in their last two games after missing the first half-plus of the season, and has played really well for Memphis.
28:26
You know, obviously Ja Morant will not be out there tonight, so I like the over 23.5 points, rebounds, assists for Ty Jerome. And then somebody has to play in the front court for the Memphis Grizzlies.
28:37
We don't know if Santi Aldama is going to be out there. Jaren Jackson is no longer on this team.
28:42
All the players they brought in from Utah, including Taylor Hendricks, who I think will get some run for them down the stretch, they won't be available tonight. So our old friend, Kelly, GG Jackson- Oh, yeah...
28:51
uh, who's had some moments for this team. Uh, specifically two years ago had a really nice run as a rookie, but has been playing a little bit more of late.
28:57
I think by default he's going to have to play big minutes tonight, uh, so I'm looking at the over 14.5 points for GG Jackson. It, it is crazy. Love all the bets, Nick. It, it is wild.
29:06
If we see Sabonis get moved before this game, like, this is gonna be a bunch of guards and, like, forwards playing in this game tonight. Yeah. It's crazy. You mentioned the Pelicans in there? Yeah.
29:14
Did you, did you mention the Pelicans play in there as well? Uh, I, I did not mention it yet, but I am, uh, I'm looking to fade the Milwaukee Bucks.
29:22
You know, they, they came off [laughs] a huge win last night against Chicago, again, taking advantage of a team that was short-handed after making a trade. I, I guess that goes down, uh, as a nice win for the Bucks.
29:32
I don't think they're overly interested in winning too many games the rest of the way.
29:36
Uh, meanwhile, the New Orleans Pelicans, you know, there's a story that came out this morning, like, they, they view themselves as having a playoff roster.
29:42
Uh, there is no realistic, uh, view, uh, [laughs] of what this team actually is. And to be fair to them, I mean, I, I like a lot of the pieces on the Pelicans.
29:50
You know, they don't feel like they should be as bad as a team like the Brooklyn Nets or the Washington Wizards, but they are, you know? Uh, they, they- Yeah... they just have trouble stringing together wins.
29:58
They've been a little bit better lately. Uh, they are nine points better in terms of net rating than the Milwaukee Bucks over the last 10 games. So this is a spot where I would grab points with New Orleans.
30:07
Bucks are one and five ATS when they have a rest disadvantage this season. They're failing to cover those games by almost eight points per game. Pels are five and two when they have a rest advantage.
30:18
Uh, so this is a, a Pelicans spot for me. At the risk of making people sick already of the Giannis talk, I do feel compelled to ask Nick about it- Yeah, let's hear it... because he is a Giannis guy.
30:28
So it would be more awkward not to ask him, what's your instinct at this point?
30:34
I, you know, everything coming out of Milwaukee, we've had a couple puff pieces, you know, in the last 24 hours where Giannis is once again professing his loyalty to Milwaukee and, you know, almost kind of reminiscing, it feels like, about his time- [laughs] Oh my God...
30:46
with the Milwaukee Bucks. You know, that, that, it kind of felt to me like the, the last ditch effort to, to save a little bit of face. But I, I want to be clear here. I, I live in Milwaukee.
30:56
I, I'm more of a Bucks fan, I would say, than a Giannis fan specifically. I, I think most of Bucks nation is, is ready to move on. Most of Bucks nation would root for Giannis Antetokounmpo wherever he goes next.
31:06
You know, I don't think this is going to be an acrimonious exit whenever it happens, whether it's before tomorrow's deadline or at some time in the summer.
31:14
You know, I know there's this pipe dream scenario where Milwaukee tanks the rest of the season and oh, they jump up and they get the number one or the number two pick, and all of a sudden, you know, you could sell Giannis on playing alongside Darren Peterson or AJ DiBenza.
31:27
We'll see. We'll see. The lottery has been incredibly unpredictable over these last few years, and I, I think that's, ultimately, a pretty difficult sell to Giannis, who's gonna be 32 next season.
31:36
Even if you land that big time prospect, you know, you're probably at least two or three years away from that guy being enough of an impact player to really push you toward a title.
31:44
So I'm, I have long been of the belief, guys, that the Bucks should just bite the bullet. If Giannis is not going to be the one to put his finger on the scale- Mm-hmm...
31:51
and say, "Trade me," or, "Trade me to this specific team," I, I think Milwaukee should be actively looking to shop him.
31:56
And I, I know they can get better deals on paper in the off season, but I just, I want this saga to end. It, it's been hanging- Yeah... over this team for two plus years. This is such an insight into...
32:06
Can you imagine how many of Giannis' ex-girlfriends are like, "This is exactly what he did to me." [laughs] "Just break up with me already." This is so true. Giannis, break up.
32:13
Well, and I love the, I love we get James Harden move last night, right? Yeah. It's like the, the, the vast difference between a James Harden and Giannis Antetokounmpo. Yeah.
32:21
[laughs] Where it's like Giannis was go- He wants to leave, just can't piss off anybody. Oh my God. And James Harden's like, "What, you ain't gonna pay me? Get the hell, get me the hell out of town." Yeah.
32:27
James Harden's like, "Here, here's how you do this." Yeah, he can. [laughs] "Here's how you do this." All right. Uh, we have a couple minutes left. Uh, let's talk Super Bowl 60. Remind us how you're betting this.
32:37
Have you added any since the last time we spoke? Yeah, I've, I've added a couple of props to my card. You know, we talked last week about the Drake May over 30 and a half pass attempts. I like that.
32:47
You know, I'm, I'm with our guy, Jeff Erickson, on the over two and a half receptions for Rhamondre Stevenson as well. I, I think we see more of Travion Henderson.
32:56
I think, you know, the game script kind of dictated that they wanted to pound Stevenson a little bit more against Denver a couple of weeks ago, but I, I think they want to get the explosiveness of Henderson in there as well.
33:06
Um, but I, I've been digging a little bit deeper, guys, because y- as you guys know, I mean, we have every possible market available for the Super Bowl.
33:13
So on the Seattle side of things, I, I kind of like George Holani over 10 and a half receiving yards. Don't mind the over one and a half receptions as well.
33:20
He quietly played 23 snaps in the NFC championship game, was targeted four times, caught three of those for 27 yards.
33:26
Ran 14 routes on those 23 snaps compared to 15 for Kenneth Walker, who obviously had a much higher snap share in that game.
33:34
So when he was on the field, he was basically being used as a passing back, as a receiving back, and was seeing similar volume to Kenneth Walker in those scenarios.
33:42
And like the Patriots, Seattle does allow a decent amount of volume in terms of running backs operating as pass catchers.
33:48
Did a good job of limiting big plays to running backs during the regular season, but they ranked 27th in the NFL, uh, in terms of total catches to the running back position. So that's one that I'm looking at.
33:59
Um, you know, when you start to get into some of these, like, Super Bowl only type of markets, looking at the under 10 and a half jersey number for first touchdown on Sunday. Oh.
34:09
That's at plus 110, and that gets you Kenneth Walker, that gets you Cooper Kupp, Drake May, uh, as a rusher of course, Stefon Diggs, and KeSean Booth.
34:17
So you don't get JSN, you don't get Rhamondre, you don't get the tight ends, but to me that's a worthy trade-off. I like it. The under J- the under 10 jersey uniform bet. Like it, man. Yeah.
34:27
Haven't heard that one yet in the last two weeks. That's a good one. Um, okay. And then just in general side and total, again remind me, you are on... I, I'm gonna try to split the difference here, guys.
34:38
You know, I'm hoping I can get this up to, to five. It hasn't moved yet this week. Thought we might see a little bit more. Maybe that happens before Sunday. But I, I think the Patriots keep this game close.
34:46
I, I think it is more of a defensive game. My official score prediction, uh, as of now on Roto Wire is Seattle 24, New England 20. There you go. Yeah. Got, got a New England pick. Uh, I guess by- There we go...
34:58
by a little bit there. All right. Uh- [laughs] By a little bit By a little bit. Nick, appreciate it as always, man. Thank you so much. Um, good luck with the NBA tonight, and we'll see what happens with Giannis.
35:08
Time will tell here. 24 hours. We'll find out, guys. Appreciate you having me. Warren Sharp, Todd Wisniewski and more coming up. Numbers Game, VSiN, the sports betting network.
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36:18
I got a tweet about that last night. On the biggest betting day of the year, it's all day coverage only on VSiN. What, he didn't make his bet?
36:23
Uh, he's doing the show from his hotel room right now, uh, out there in San Francisco. Oh, he doesn't make his bet.
36:28
Eh, Buddhist man made a, let me know that, uh, sent me a screenshot and the old bed was, uh, unmade behind him. Do you make your bed in hotels, smart man? No, not at all. Are you kidding me?
36:38
My bed, my bed at home right now is not made. Right. But, like, I'm not doing a show in front of it. That's, that is a good point. You are not doing a show in front of it.
36:44
Um, about those Scottie Scheffler odds that we had earlier, right? Scottie Scheffler around plus 220-ish to- Glad you reminded me... to win the, uh, Waste Management. Schauffele next at 17/1.
36:55
Uh, we even sh- we even showed a bigger spread, like Schauffele was 19/1. Yeah, 19. Uh, Joe Peta, our buddy, uh, reminds those of us who have been betting for, uh, most of our lives, that in the early 2000s,
37:07
uh, the dual heyday of Tiger Woods in the World Sports Excha- Exchange, for those of us of a certain age, uh, who would bet offshore at, uh, WSEX, World Sports Exchange.
37:17
Um, whenever Tiger played an event, just to give you context, uh, World Sports Exchange would open the live betting market on Tiger at 30 to 33.
37:28
So translating it to, uh, our actual odds, essentially Tiger would be minus 233 to win any tournament back then to start with live betting. Minus, minus 233 to win. It's insane.
37:41
This is about it, this, not about, this is as close as we've ever gotten. And Joe even says, says, "Never thought we'd even get this close." Oh, I was just gonna say, the fact that you...
37:50
It's not comparing one to the other- No... or even talking different eras. The fact that we've had two guys impact the betting market like this is just wild. It's incredible. I did just bet.
38:00
I, I got my first round leader bet in 10/1, uh, Scottie Scheffler. Jason McKinney, "I can't believe the holiday hate from Gil." He says, "I can't believe the holiday hate from Gilly.
38:09
Valentine's, Mother's and Father's Day, some of the most important in the US. Full disclosure, I'm in the restaurant business. I've heard Todd Wishnev's like, Todd Wishnev and, uh, Will Hill likes our rolls."
38:18
Oh, you work there? Wow. You work at Texas Roadhouse, is that what you're telling me? By the way, I have no hate for Mother's or Father's Day. I love Mother's and Father's Day.
38:28
Um- [laughs] Those are far more significant to me than Valentine's Day [laughs] and President's Day. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I used to love them when Mom and Fa- when my mom and dad were around, I used to love those.
38:36
I love Christmas more than all these Gentiles love Christmas, for God sakes. Yeah, that's true. He does. Man can't hate on Valentine's Day? Anyway.
38:45
Uh, oh, Brad Magnus says, "How about instead of dealing Giannis, they just fire Doc?" Well, that's one way to do it. That doesn't solve the Giannis problem, though. And they- So, I'm so- And they- So tired, man.
38:56
GV New Jersey/New York says, "Oh, the Doug Gottlieb thing we were talking about earlier. He's calling your formula BS, Gil. It's only two of my criterias, Ken Paul." Yeah, Gottlieb was not happy.
39:06
We talked about it with Greg earlier. I just can't, Gil. I, I was ready to throw my hands up in the middle of Nick's, uh, segment. It's just the, the Giannis thing, like you got... Stop be- just stop being nice.
39:14
Rip the Band-Aid. Demand you need to be out of there. [laughs] So tired of this.
39:18
Like, I did see more Giannis garbage, uh, out there this morning, him talking about how much the community means to him, and his daughter, his, his kids will always be born there. His father's buried there.
39:28
Like, I get it, man. The city can mean a lot to you. You're a professional basketball player. You're allowed to play elsewhere. And then Nick brought up the Pelicans thing I went on a rant on, like, a month ago.
39:37
You, you were witness to it. There was nobody more higher on this core of players, like, three years ago. And I was like, "Just give him time, Gil. Just give him..." They're full Justin Herbert at this point.
39:46
Don't, nobody sell me on Herb Jones or Trey Murphy until they win anything. [laughs] So done with it. It is not you, it is me. Then bre- are you breaking up with me? Not e- uh, not exactly. All right. I wanna be here.
40:01
I've been goaded into, uh, redoing my, uh, my baseball season wins. Not redoing, but reviewing them because- Well, it's Wednesday. Well, it's because hour two of our show didn't get on social yesterday. Correct.
40:12
It didn't get on the website. We had some tech errors. So- Sorry for people that were watching at home. Okay. So I've given out two season win totals, uh, the last two days.
40:19
First one was the Guardians under, 80 and a half. And again, the reasoning for this is threefold. One, Pythagorean theorem, Bill James, tried and true. Runs produced, runs allowed.
40:31
Guardians were the biggest overachievers in all of baseball last year. Plus eight on the Pythagorean, and then in terms of sequencing, they were plus 11 wins. 11 games better than they ought to have been.
40:42
But eight games, so if you just wanna go with Pythagorean theorem, eight games better than they ought to have been.
40:46
That's right, the 14 games above 500 Guardians on a negative run differential should've been, like, 80 and 82. Oh, God. Maybe even worse with sequencing.
40:58
Anyway, and then, then I just went into the whole thing that I'm not really high on their pitchers at all, their starting rotation. I think Gavin Williams with his 11.8% walk rate is,
41:08
just, you have no idea what you're gonna get from him year to year. Tanner Bibee, who they had really strong hopes for, um, his cutter is no good.
41:17
His slider looks like a sweeper against, he c- he can't get the feel of it against right-handed hitters. Uh, Slade, Cecconi, again, also just awful.
41:27
His ideal contact rate, 50% of both left-handed batters and right-handed batters last season. 85% walk, uh, strand rate, pardon me, even when he was good, which is unsustainable.
41:37
Logan Allen never panned out, 9.2% walk rate. His fastball's at 90, 91. Like, the margin of error is so slim. Anyway, and in their lineup is, yeah, R- Ramirez is fantastic. José Ramírez is incredible.
41:50
Steven Kwan maybe have a, has a bounce back. I'll even allow for that, and Kyle Manzardo is good. But there's no, there's no depth to that lineup. It's an under, once again, on the Guardians, 80 and a half.
42:00
Though I do think Parker Messick, by the way, has, uh, potential in that rotation. And what was Burke's comments? He agrees with your play. He ca- he cannot disagree with it- Yeah... was, I believe, the way he put it.
42:10
Yeah, he wasn't gonna bet it though either, right? No, no. That's what it sounded like.
42:13
The one that you might have missed yesterday, 'cause we couldn't get it up, uh, was the, uh, the, up on social, was Texas Rangers over, 83 and a half. So back to Pythagorean sequencing.
42:22
The biggest underachievers in terms of Pythagorean theorem, runs produced, runs allowed. The Rangers finished 10 games worse than they should have been last year. So you're a, you're a team disguised, right?
42:35
Y- y- you're, you're a much better team disguised as a much worse team Only the White Sox were as big of an underachiever according to Pythagorean theorem last year, runs produced, runs allowed.
42:44
But also in sequencing, they were among the most unfortunate, I think five wins worse in actual standings versus what they ought to have been in sequencing. And the Rangers to me are the polar opposite of the Guardians.
42:58
While I'm going under on the Guardians 80 and a half, I'm going over Rangers 83 and a half because the Rangers' starting rotation, I'm old school when it comes to starting rotations.
43:06
Man, I love a great starting rotation. And Eovaldi, DeGrom, Mackenzie Gore, and Jack Leiter, come on. Eovaldi with his 1.73 ERA last year, 26% K rate, 4.2% walk rate.
43:21
Even if he shouldn't have been a 1.73 ERA, his advanced stats still very good, a 2.80 fielding independent.
43:27
DeGrom certainly not the best part of his career, but a 27.7% K rate last year against a 5.5% walk rate, a 2.97 ERA. A little worse on, on advanced stats, but you get the idea. Still a great top of the line pitcher.
43:41
And then Mackenzie Gore, who I also bet 40, 40 to 1 to win the AL Cy Young. Shout out to the aforementioned Joe Peta, 'cause I love all of Mackenzie Gore's underlying stats. But, um,
43:52
Joe adds that the framing from going away from Washington is such a huge deal. If you're always wondering why can't Mackenzie Gore make that final leap to the elite, a lot of it might have to do with framing.
44:06
Like, that's a big reason for it, even though again, you know, 27.2% K rate. You love seeing that kind of thing. The BABIP has always been unfortunate. 325 last year, 340 the year before.
44:17
So that's your number three starter. And then there's Leiter, Jack Leiter, who everybody thinks after a great second half of the season last year is gonna break out.
44:23
And I like their lineup with Nimmo and, uh, excuse me, Nimmo, Langford, Seager. Joc needs to bounce back for sure. Jake Burger. I like that one through five.
44:31
So over on the Rangers in case you missed it yesterday, under on the Guardians in case you missed it the day before. You can also bet, uh, best record, worst record- Yeah, pulled those in...
44:40
as well, just to throw those up here for a second. How, uh, how live? Rangers, like how far you think they can make it in the playoffs? Oh, I think they can go far. Really? Okay. Oh, yeah. Like it.
44:50
You got, they gotta figure out the bullpen for sure, but I have every faith that they can do that as the course of the season goes on. MLB best record, look, look at that. Dodgers minus 165, Yankees next at 12 to 1.
45:01
Can I give you my reactions while I was typing- Yeah... these up yesterday? Best record went first. I went, "Wow, Dodgers man." Just shake my head. Yeah. And then have you still looked at worst record?
45:10
[laughs] Oh, it's gotta be the Rockies by far, right? Rockies minus 400. [laughs] Yeah. That Rock- 'Cause I don't think the White Sox are th- are gonna be bad this year.
45:20
Maybe you could talk me into the Nats if they just started selling off, right? Yeah. But no, the Rockies are absolutely fa- Let's put it this way. This is correct, that the Rockies are $4 favorites to win worst.
45:31
That's crazy. And the Dodgers aren't quite that big of a favorite to win, to, to have best. Because the Dodgers can decide at some point, right? Right, yes. It's easier to be a bad team.
45:40
Well, it's, it's, it's also the Dodgers can make a decision to just sort of load manage if they get injuries and that kind of thing, whereas the Rockies, you just kind of stink. Mm-hmm. There's no way out of that.
45:49
And they can, I mean, not like, not, not that there's rest days and stuff like that, but if anybody they want to take time to get ready from injuries or back from injuries, you take your time.
45:57
I could do the whole Rockies rant again, but I've said it many years.
45:59
They have to basically have roster construction for two different environments, home and whatever they're doing on the road, and it just, I don't know that they can ever sustain success with that franchise. Hmm.
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