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Feb 5, 2025
A Numbers Game | February 5, 2025 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | February 5, 2025 | Hour 2
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0:00
The numbers told the story, they always do. You one of those idiots who believe in analytics? This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
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Power number two of a numbers game at VSiN, V Sports Betting Network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, SiriusXM channel 158. It's Gil Alexander. It's my little buddy Kelly Bydlon, everybody.
0:21
Uh, we never mentioned our Twitter handles. Uh, @kelleybydlon for Kelly, K-E-L-L-E-Y-B-Y-D-L-O-N. Nailed it. Nailed it. I'm at Beating The Book, of course, where we appreciate all the tweets.
0:33
By the way, this hour, um, Jason Weingarten from Under A Cloud of Smoke with all his bets. Matt Brown in studio, host of Ready, Set, Bet, along with Mike Somich, uh, here in studio talking, uh, Super Bowl 59 with us.
0:44
Let me guess, he's on with Stormy afterwards? Is that why he's in studio? Is that happening? No. No, he just came in for us? No, he just, just came for us, yeah. Wow. Very exciting.
0:52
I, I probably should've double-checked the schedule before I so confidently said that, but yeah. [laughs] Uh, we get tweets at Beating The Book. Jim Wilcox, "No UConn as a possible 25 natty?"
1:03
Uh, Jim, I didn't get a chance to ask, uh, Jim Root about UConn, but last week when Matty Cox was on from Three Man Weave, I did ask him about UConn, and he was, uh, he was not buying, not buying a three-peat for UConn.
1:16
Eaton B- [laughs] I'm not gonna say it. Shrek McPhee trying to get me on another one. [laughs] Shret Mc- Shrek McPhee almost had me. Tennis place or anything indoor? No, you know what?
1:27
Um, the only tennis play we had was overnight. It was outdoors, thank God, in Abu Dhabi, and we won on Marketa Vondrousova, your girl- Yeah... as a slight dog, um, over, uh, Yulia Putintseva.
1:40
And, um, Marketa Vondrousova, a couple things. One, a couple things.
1:44
One is a handicap, anything I wanna say, but the other thing I wanna say is, again, just to stress, the worst tattoos you'll ever see on any human being ever.
1:51
I just, you know, I'm not a big tat- tattoo person, but if I was gonna get one, Gil, I probably wouldn't have a toddler do it. You know, it's what- It is... whatever they have in their sketchbook.
1:58
I don't know what she's going for, but it is like a ch- a toddler was doodling. Yeah, ri- exa- that's what they all look like. That's right. Um, [laughs]
2:07
the only thing I just wanna say, though, but the, the, he, he mentions anything indoor, 'cause the indoor tournament's going on in Transylvania Open right now.
2:13
I ca- I can't say Transylvania Open and be not, like, kinda laugh. I don't know. Like. Um, this is the thing, and I sort of mentioned it, like, so the last couple days, both picks were losers, and they were both indoors.
2:25
When I am doing my tennis and it's indoor tournaments, I'm importing, I'm, I'm, I'm inputting indoor hardcore data, and that data is not as robust, right?
2:35
And it kind of, I don't know if it's polluting it, I don't know if it's just not as, you know, reflective of, of future results, but it ain't as good as hard, uh, as outdoor hards.
2:46
And as soon as we get right back on the outdoors, we, we get ourselves a winner. So outdoor hards is definitely our thing. That is odd. Like, that's gotta drive you- It's amazing... it's gotta drive you nuts.
2:54
It drives me nuts because it's a constant, and this is, this is just a handicapping thing for everybody, but it's a constant, um, struggle between the hu- the humility of your numbers,
3:09
where you don't have an edge, where you do have an edge, and the, and that's one thing to say it in theory, but then to actually follow through with that in practice is the difficulty, right?
3:21
Because you, you, you, your brain doesn't necessarily say, "Okay, that's it. I'm just not gonna bet anymore indoor," which probably, I probably should. Um, I'm just gonna roll with the outdoor hards until we get to clay.
3:30
I'm gonna bet clay, 'cause those go well, too.
3:33
Because you are tempted, because you do, I still run the numbers, and I'm looking at the, I'm like, "Well, this seems to be, there's so much value on this particular person."
3:41
But based on the results, no, on the indoor hards. Yeah, I mean, and it's, it's, I mean, your handicapping process, it changes surface to surface, right? Yeah.
3:49
But I'm assuming your [laughs] outdoor hardcourt is the same for indoor hardcourt, and it's just like w- you gotta be sitting there thinking, "Why is a roof affecting me this much?" Shrek McPhee, nice job, though.
4:00
Nice try. Almost got me. Brian- What, he ch- did he change it up or something? Brian M, yeah. He's, he, he realized I was onto the first one, now he's trying to change it up. Mm. Um, B.
4:08
Morianan, "After recent insight from Joe Fortenbaugh, I'm thinking Kelly may now be a big Hannah Storm fan." Yes. Kelly- You, you know what my one comment is on that? Is, uh- Yeah...
4:18
uh, wh- when all these SportsCenter anchors started talking a lot more betting, Hannah Storm sure felt to me like she, she knew a lot more about what she was talking about than some of the others.
4:27
Are you suggesting that Hannah Storm once sent a, uh, MoneyGram to, uh, Facundo Blanco? [laughs] I'm just saying I think there's a possibility. That's all I'm saying.
4:35
I was remembering when I was at that Western Union, I was like, "Is that Hannah Storm next to me?" Um, one more thing on this. Joe Fortenbaugh was not the only person this week who you tweeted, didn't respond to you.
4:44
The second I responded, they were like, "Oh, I'm coming on." Warren Sharp joining us on Friday. Yeah, sometimes you gotta b- you gotta have the big guns reach out. [laughs] Can't wait for that.
4:53
It's how it works in this business. Can't wait for that. By the way, JBT mentioned this about, was it JBT who mentioned it, about fourth downs? Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
5:00
Um, so you did this, you, you did the digging on this, and, and we did come up with, right? So it's, this is the problem again with these massive menus. It's very hard to find anything.
5:11
Um, and so fourth down props that, uh, you were, uh, looking at here, and I just think these are interesting to go over just again out of the sake of thoroughness here in two weeks, which is, all right, um,
5:22
we have fourth down conversions, and they're broken down. This is at DraftKings. Chiefs total fourth down conversions, Eagles total fourth down conversions, then total overall fourth down conversions. All right.
5:33
Chiefs over a half, meaning they just gotta get one, juiced at minus 180. The Eagles is set at one and a half, so not a half, but one and a half. The under slightly juiced at minus 130.
5:48
The total, um, is at two and a half, where the under is juiced at minus 150. Do any of those three, like if I said to you, "Okay, you must bet one of those three." Mm-hmm. Chiefs total, Eagles total, or total total?
6:02
Which bet would you make and which? Okay, I'm not... I, I have an answer for this. I, and it's not because of the plus money, but of course that helps. It would just be the total fourth down conversions.
6:13
Over two and a half at- Yeah... plus 120? Yeah. Um, I think I would, I think I would go under, but I'd lay the juice. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah.
6:30
So we both gravitated to the same prop- Yeah... but the opposite side. Okay. Yeah. I think I would. But, but again, I'm not betting it. I'm just saying if you made me bet, that's what I would do, but I'm not betting it.
6:39
I don't think- Yeah... I don't think there's an edge either way. I think those are relatively correctly priced.
6:44
So the thing that, I think the thing that's fascinating about that is I'm also wondering if we're thinking about it the same way too, where like I kind of expect a relatively close game, so it's, okay, that, I think you could read into that both ways, right?
6:56
If it's close game, do you feel the need to force a fourth down? You might not need to feel it as much. You might not need to.
7:02
I guess the way I'm thinking of if, if it's late and tight, we're gonna try to go to, you know, make a big conversion or something like that. Yeah. The, the, you know, we brought this up. Rufus was the guest.
7:11
Rufus Peabody was the guest on the Megapod yesterday, and we brought up the fourth down stuff in different ways with him. Um, and he's starting to make all of his bets really in, in volume today.
7:22
But every time we brought up this, these fourth down scenarios, like, oh, if the, you know, if the Eagles get a fourth and short, you could tush push, right? And that's likely to convert. Remember, these are conversions.
7:31
Mm-hmm. These aren't just attempts. Um, and then, oh, the, the, the willingness of teams to go for it more on fourth and, you know, five, let's say, or whatever.
7:40
And he kept coming back with, "Yeah, but you guys are talking about a Commanders game." Mm-hmm. Like, have we been so mesmerized by the way that the Lions and Commodores play football
7:51
that now we're applying it, like our, our brains kind of jumped to everyone's doing it? Okay. It's a great point to bring up because, yes, you need to have stop yourself.
8:01
It, it, I mean, you need to have that in your mind. Yes.
8:04
'Cause it is, I don't, I mean, the two teams don't get m- much more drastically different than [laughs] the Chiefs and Commanders when you talk about it from that standpoint. So- I appreciated the point though, right?
8:13
Y- y- you know, that's what I'm like- Yeah... the point is, the point is very significant. I, I, I, man, I just think you're gonna see aggre- two aggressive offenses in this game.
8:21
That, that's why I lean the overs on these. Also ask them about your two-point conversion a- attempt, uh, prop, 'cause you took the yes. Mm-hmm. Two-point conversion attempt, yes, plus 110.
8:30
He did not see a particular, uh, monet- uh, sort of math edge in either of the, uh, the two-point conversion ones, at least in the attempt one he did not. So- Okay... take that for what it's worth.
8:41
Uh, of course, part of Super Bowl tradition here in recent memory is also that the same week of the Super Bowl, golf goes to Phoenix for the Waste Management Open, which is the one golf tournament of the year where you can get R-O-W-D-I-E.
8:54
That's the way they spell rowdie rowdie. You know what I mean, Kelly? [laughs] For those of us who, who might have heard those cheers as children watching high school football games. Uh, you have some thoughts.
9:03
You have some bets on Waste Management Open. Yeah. Let's go country clubbing. Country clubbing. [upbeat music] Oh, yeah. We- Yeah. Long shots out now, and, uh, Gil, I got a lot of, lot of long shots this week.
9:17
You, uh, odds board. One Scotty Scheffler looking pretty good at Pebble Beach last week. Yeah.
9:24
A little, little problems around the green, but I think that's, uh, that's, that's what we were all most concerned about when you're coming back from a cut in the hand, the touch and feel you need to have for around the green.
9:33
He's plus 275. He's the favorite. Justin Thomas, 14 to one. Decky, 16 to one. Decky. Then you drop down to 25 to one for the rest. Um, look- Is that what we're calling him now, Decky?
9:43
Eh, this, this was, I mean, people have called him that for- Okay... for a while. But, uh, yeah, one of those three, look, man, they're, they're the deserved favorites.
9:49
I'm gonna look to get involved, uh, hopefully with Scheffler or one of those two live, but obviously that's gonna be a plan.
9:55
You've gotta be okay entering a tournament though, uh, knowing that that possibility might not present itself. Scotty Scheffler, the odds were ridiculous throughout all of Pebble Beach.
10:03
I kept checking about, uh, checking to jump in live, and they were, uh, silly for a long time. So that's how I'm attacking this. So I have a lot of, I just have long shots, uh, in this tournament.
10:12
Outrights that I did play, I only played two. Nick Taylor at 70 to one. Gary Woodland, going back to my guy, Gary Woodland, at 115 to one.
10:21
Nick Taylor, uh, look, he rates out like mid-20s, 30s for me, uh, as far as my modeling goes. But T- this season, Gil, T-33 at Pebble, T-12 at the Am Ex.
10:30
He won at the Sony already, and then the last two years of this tournament, he's finished first and second.
10:35
Uh, Nick Taylor thrives at the Waste Management Phoenix Open, so I'm not reading too much more into it besides that one outright on him, 70 to one.
10:41
Gary Woodland playing some great golf again, ab- absolutely bombing it off the tee, second in this field in driving distance. Um, look, gonna need him to be accurate and putt well. It's all, putter's always the question.
10:52
But T-22 at Pebble, T-16 at T- uh, at the Sony in his two starts. Uh, not bad putting stats to start the year, and he's won this tournament before. Re- definitely looking at course history this week.
11:01
So played an outright on Gary Woodland, also played him in the top 20 market. Gonna drop down to top 10 real quick. Uh, Luke Clanton and Min Woo Lee. I'm just playing upside on these guys.
11:10
Min Woo, uh, couple T-17s, uh, finishes to start his season. I would think really high upside on both these guys this year, so I'm gonna play them in the top 10 market, not outright.
11:20
Should be good course fits for both of them as well. And then top 20 bets on Tom Hoge and Charlie Hoffman as well to add on to Gary Woodland.
11:28
So playing a lot of longer shots this week, so hoping to get a couple of those home. Charlie Hoffman, who was sponsored by Waste Management for years and years and years. Still is, I believe. Still is, yeah.
11:35
Still is, I believe. That's right. If you had a s- sexier sponsorship than Waste Management, I don't know what there- That's right... which one it would be. Uh, have you ever been, by the way? No, I have not. I have not.
11:45
You do like Matt Brown did that one year. He's like, "I'm going. You guys can broadcast. I'll broadcast from there." Coming back with Jason next
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13:12
I truly do. This is Chris of St. Barts. Have you ever been to St. Barts before? I actually have. I have too. Yeah, yeah. I have too. St. Barthélemy. I mean, I- St. Barts...
13:20
one of these days you will find Captain Ron Kelly just somewhere in a Caribbean island with a bar, running a bar. What'd you call yourself? Captain what? Yeah, you ever see that terrible movie in the '90s, Captain Ron?
13:30
No. Who was it? Kurt Russell in it, I think maybe. Oh, no, that's fair. Yeah. Uh, Chris of St. Barts, "So we're about a week away from the tried and true method in Pythagori- and, and Pythagoras showing up, huh?"
13:39
Um, no, because I will be out, but when I get back, we will be on the way to exactly that.
13:45
What he's talking about, the tried and true college basketball formula that has called the champion of college hoops pretty much every year of the last 35 to 40 years, or winnowed it down to a group, with the exception of the 2014 Yukon Huskies.
13:59
That was the only exception. And Pythagoras talking about our favorite baseball season win total of the year, which we kind of nail easy-peasy every year. So we'll get to that. Yes. Thank you, Chris, for the question.
14:09
ThreeJackH3131, "Gil, I had no idea you were an importer." Oh, I s- [laughs] I said importer, I meant, uh, inputting. "Are you an exporter too? Reminder to stay away from grass season." Thank you for that. Yes.
14:19
Um, this is also from B. Moriane, and he says, "If you're making Kelly make a bet, having lived in both Russia and Florida, I'm thinking gun to his head wouldn't do much, it would have to be trimmer, uh, to the beard."
14:29
[laughs] "Trimmer to the beard you have to make a bet." That's right. Yeah, yeah. Teddy Rat, "Great to hear Joe Fortenbaugh on ANG." Yeah, always great to have Joe on there.
14:37
Ryan Thompson, "The country club in video, are those old people at a young people's club or young people at an old people's club? ANG nation needs to know." Okay, this is great. I love the full breakdown of the open.
14:47
I, I believe it is old people at a younger people's club, that's why the younger people are in the background. That's why I've made the comment, can you imagine being the extra in the B-roll? Like, it's B-roll already.
14:59
The guy's not even around to talk. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, ba-doom, boom, ba-doom. JasonH11, "If you remember R-O-W-D-I-E from your high school basketball days, then you should be country clubbing.
15:08
That's some expert-level producing right there from Kelly."
15:11
Uh, and then Gary Trask talking about the, uh, the Beating The Book 14th annual Vegas lifestyle podcast edition, said, "Annual must listen for both Vegas newbies and veterans.
15:20
Totally agree with Melts in Vegas about Durango Resort, and Gil is spot on regarding the Cromwell sportsbook as a hidden gem." We talk about sportsbooks, and restaurants, and beyond. Um, always appreciate the feedback.
15:32
Ladies and gentlemen, comes to us from under a cloud of smoke, courtesy of aggressive guest line. You can follow him on Twitter, @spreadapedia. It is the self-proclaimed winningest guest in Numbers Game history.
15:43
He stands by it. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Jason Weingarten. Jason Weingarten, how you doing, man? Pretty good. How's it going? Doing very well. Almost Super Bowl time. I'm sorry, what did you say?
15:55
It's almost Super Bowl time. Oh, yeah. [laughs] Yes, it is. Breaking news once again. Almost Super Bowl time. Four days away, Jason. You're gonna be in town for it? You're gonna be here? That's the plan.
16:04
I'm gonna be at Circa. And you're gonna be on the show with us when? For Sunday? Yeah. Sunday. Sunday. All right. On the show too in person. All right, Jason, don't oversleep, please. We'd love to have you here.
16:15
Um- Yeah, bye... you're gonna wa- and you're gonna take it in at Circa, Super Bowl 59. Can't wait. Yeah, I'll be right there at the sportsbook. Okay. How many... You're, you...
16:24
Most of the audience knows you as a baseball guy, and then you bet all kinds of sports, obviously. Um, how many bets do you think you will have on this Super Bowl? I think by Sunday I'll have between 20, 25 bets total.
16:40
I'm trying to keep it, you know, relatively reasonable this year. Um, also, I just
16:47
don't have it in me this year to, to run around and bet props at a million different books, and spend the whole week playing the prop game.
16:55
So my, uh, my prop betting will be a little bit more, uh, more limited this year. Um, I'll have money on, on the game itself, you know, on the side of the total.
17:06
I'm sure I'll find some MVP bets, find a couple other fun things to bet and, you know, call it a day. Okay. Um, do you have any props in pocket already? I have a couple.
17:17
Um, I started looking, [clears throat] you know, I s- I start looking at a lot of the long shot stuff just to see if there's anything that interests me, and I'll, I'll keep doing that as the week goes on.
17:27
But, uh, one guy I'm interested in is DeAndre Hopkins. His over under for catches is, like, one and a half with plus money to the over. Um, I think that's a little low.
17:38
I know he hasn't been featured much in the playoffs, but he's still a big game wide receiver, and you never know.
17:45
Um, a lot of the time I look at some of the his, uh, some of the Super Bowl stuff historically, and you never know when a veteran receiver is gonna have a good final game.
17:55
You know, even going back to Super Bowl I, Max McGee, you know, the first MVP of the Super Bowl, was a Backup wide receiver who got called into action that day, and I think he caught three touchdown passes.
18:06
Again, not saying that Hopkins is gonna catch three touchdown passes, but I do look at some of that stuff. I look at the two-plus touchdown market.
18:16
I wanna see if I can get a big number on Hop- on Hopkins, 65 to 1, 75 to 1 would get my attention there.
18:24
Um, but I'm, I'm kinda just playing around looking at, at unconventional angles at the moment, seeing what I can come up with before I get to Vegas. This is why I love Jason.
18:34
This is why I love Jason, because this is an angle I had not thought of, and this is one that has not come up. I kind of... I'm, um...
18:41
This resonates with me, because we were just talking about, or I've been several times, when we talk about the history of props, we always go back to Art Manteris at Caesars doing the William 'The Refrigerator' Perry prop, uh, for Super Bowl 20, would he score?
18:54
Uh, bettors betted down, uh, from 40 to 1 down to about five to one-ish. And W- William 'The Refrigerator' Perry did in fact score.
19:01
But I always mention that Mike Ditka said, whether he believed it or not, but he felt the need to proclaim it, he says one of the biggest regrets of his, his head coaching career was that he didn't give the ball to Sweetness, right?
19:14
He didn't give Walter Payton that career cherry-on-top achievement of having scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl.
19:21
Instead, they gave that, you know, potential play to William 'The Refrigerator' Perry, a rookie out of Clemson.
19:27
Um, so that's, that's an interesting thing what you're talking about is, would Andy Reid and his sense of D-Hop's career in any way, 'cause D-Hop obviously, who was a great player on some really bad teams, would he,
19:45
would he then care enough to sort of try, 'cause everyone says, "Oh, the Chiefs will just, you know, they'll take what they get, w- what, what's given to them defensively." Yeah, we get that.
19:54
But will he take some time to sort of pre-flop a play design-wise for a guy like D-Hop with that kind of sense of history? I wonder. It's interesting.
20:03
And even on top of that, when you look at a, a game like the Super Bowl and you think, "Okay, well, how am I gonna win the Super Bowl?"
20:10
And you have two weeks to prepare, the answer is, I'm gonna take away the opposing team's best players and make them beat me with other guys. So I'm always looking for who those other guys might be.
20:19
If you're gonna win, you're gonna need some of your other players to step up, you know? Obviously, the ball's going to Travis Kelce. Obviously, the ball's going to Kareem Hunt.
20:28
Obviously, the ball's going to Pacheco, whatever. But you get farther and farther down the list, and you're saying, "Well, can this guy have a big game? Can this guy do something," you know?
20:36
I mean, this is very likely DeAndre Hopkins' last game in the NFL. Um, he's still got something left in the tank. It just, you know, is it, is th- this gonna be the day that, that he rises up to the occasion?
20:48
I don't know. Um, but I'm always looking at that, and I'm always looking for MVP stuff 'cause I always wanna hit that defensive player MVP.
20:57
Um, it's just sort of a matter of fact that where we're at right now, the players, you know, the, the best players are gonna always be the quarterbacks. The quarterbacks are always gonna most likely be the MVP.
21:08
But one of these days a, a defensive player's gonna win. Um, I couldn't tell you who yet. I haven't found a good number on anybody that's really made me run out there and get it.
21:17
But, um, you know, I'm, I'm definitely gonna, gonna have to shop around.
21:23
I, I really think, uh, you know, especially if the Eagles do win this game, it's likely gonna be because somebody stopped Patrick Mahomes, and I wanna find out who, who that's most likely gonna be and bet on them.
21:34
Um, yeah, I was throwing this right. You're a Chiefs guy, right? You're backing the Chiefs in this game? Yeah. I got, I got a little bit on the Chiefs so far. All right.
21:41
So you're not one that would take a shot at, at, uh, Saquon getting over 200 yards. You wouldn't... I mean, how do you see that game script going in our last 30 seconds here?
21:50
Do you feel like, 'cause a lot of people take the position, well, 'cause Todd said this, Todd Wishnæf said this on the Megapod, a running game seems like the thing you could game plan defensively the, the easiest to stop, but yet e- every team has tried with Saquon and they've failed.
22:04
So I'm not sure, do you see that how, th- is that how the game script goes for you, that they shut down, at least relatively speaking, Saquon?
22:11
I think if you have two weeks to prepare for this game, you have to prepare a defense that focuses on shutting down Saquon Barkley.
22:18
That's not necessarily my reason for betting, uh, Barkley's under, but I think that line's gonna keep picking up, and Sunday you're gonna get a very good price fading some of the most public props, like I said before, Barkley and Kelce under.
22:32
Yeah. Wait till Sunday. Those are, those are ab- absolutely gonna be plays. Yeah. If your instincts are under on all kinds of things, wait. They will go up between now and game time. Thank you, Jason.
22:41
We'll see you on Sunday. See you Sunday. Can't wait. My man, Jason Weingarten. Matt Brown in studio next. The band is back together. [upbeat music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
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23:19
Always appreciate the feedback. Nash, last name Nash, "Good call on Hannah Storm. She definitely seems like a beard for Chris Falica back, back today."
23:27
[laughs] Jamie Leyva, or Jaime Leyva, "Can we get a breakdown on the Transylvania Open by Kelly in a Count von Count voice?" Oh, that's a good idea. "Have a fantastic day, gentlemen." Thank you very much.
23:38
Uh, Michael Knight was looking for the sack prop that Fortenbaugh mentioned. Which book? Great question. The McDuffie sack prop. We gotta figure out where that is. Oh, yeah. I did, uh... Yeah. He said 30, 50 to 1.
23:49
I did, uh, look up Jason's Hopkins bets over at FanDuel, over one and a half receptions, plus 126, two-plus touchdowns at 100 to 1. Just a couple more here.
23:58
Kevin Ryan, "Gil, Kelly's love for Gary Woodland week in and week out may exceed yours for Joe Jackson Gibbs." I know he's really into Woodland Fair. And then Rick Ollier, "Whoa, whoa, whoa.
24:08
Did Kelly Blade Biddlin just insult Captain Ron? I'll have you know that he saved a family from Cuba. How dare you?" [laughs] It's a, a great terrible movie of the '90s.
24:18
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm extremely uncomfortable because Kelly is sitting awfully close to me. Way too close.
24:22
And the reason for this is usually, uh, when we have a guest here on set, Kelly, uh, saunters, 'cause that's what he does, he saunters back behind the glass. Yeah. But not today because- No...
24:31
it's Matt Brown, and it's a Primetime Action reunion. Matt Brown, the current host, co-host with Mike Somich, that is, of Ready, Set, Bet here on the weekends at Vs. And Matt Brown joins us here in studio.
24:41
What's happening, buddy? How you guys doing? You had- following Joe Fortenbaugh, guy that we all go way back with. Big time.
24:47
Joe Fortenbaugh used to be on the desk with me and, and one Dave Ferri doing a fantasy sports show- Oh, I remember it well... back in the day. Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's, it's, it's, we, uh, full circle.
24:56
Small, it's a small world. You've both come so far. Yeah. [laughs] Well, some, some, some further than others. You guys didn't even know I still worked here until I walked in the studio just a second ago. Yes, we did.
25:06
Yes, I know. Yes, we did. Yeah. Um, okay. Well, I don't know if you know this, Matt, but, uh, there's a s- there's a game on Sunday. Yes, yes. Uh, Super Bowl- Fun one... LIX.
25:15
And, um, I actually don't know the answer to this. Mm-hmm. Which, what side are you on here? So I might have one of the very few two and a halves in the entire world. Where did you get a two and a half?
25:27
So [laughs] and so I sent this to Kelly- Yeah, I didn't believe him either... as proof because I'm like, "Everyone's gonna listen to this, and they're gonna go, 'This guy's lying.'"
25:36
Rogue here, Boyd went rogue here in Vegas. So Bo- Boyd usually just uses FanDuel lines. Right. You know? So I'm sitting there, and I'm kinda like just I'm on, I'm on on Sunday when all the lines are populating, right?
25:49
Yeah. Like 'cause I'm, I'm here with, with Somich. Ready, Set, Bet, check it out. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, I'm sure [laughs] there you go.
25:55
We'll be here during the game 'cause, so if you don't wanna watch- That's right... the game, you can come, you can come watch us.
25:59
Um, so we'll, uh, we're, we're sitting here, you know, scrolling through, scrolling through, scrolling through. I'm like, I'm like, "This, what is Boyd doing?"
26:06
Boyd went rogue and put up their own number for like 10, 12 minutes. And so- The Chiefs were favored by two and a half points for 12... two and a half, so I have a plus two, a Eagles plus two and a half. Wow.
26:16
Okay, so I didn't actually ask you this question 'cause I just assumed FanDuel had a two and a half. No, no, no. So FanDuel never had that? No, no, Boyd- Wow. All right... posted their own number for about
26:26
10, 12 minutes. How much did they allow you to put on that? So that there is, there is also that because as, uh, anyone who has, has bet Boyd here, uh, they actually have hours on their sportsbook. [laughs] They do, yes.
26:37
Sending to the trading team. [laughs] So when, when you plug in the first number, it goes, "Sending to the trading desk," and then it was like, "Nah, we're not gonna do that," and whatever. And so it, it whittled down.
26:47
I was able to do it twice to get, I mean, moderate. Yeah. I mean, not, not, not what you would normally bet on a game because I, it was after hours. Yeah.
26:54
And, uh, the trading team apparently is- Have either of you two run into the same problem I have where I try to guess where, like, it's always chopped in half. Whatever you try to bet, they're like- Oh...
27:02
"We'll take half of it." It's so good. [laughs] So I'm like, "Well, let me bet double." Oh, no, it's, it's worse than that.
27:07
Like MGM I've had the experience where I, let's say I wanna put a dime on a, on a anything, a tennis match or whatever. It, it, it varies. Sometimes I literally have to put seven different bets in to get to the dime.
27:20
Mm-hmm. But it lets me get to the dime. Mm-hmm. And it doesn't necessarily move the number either. Mm-hmm. So it's all just algorithmic nonsense. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. None of it does.
27:30
No, and, and I'm wondering if this was, like, the rare time where there actually was someone back there looking 'cause they, it seems like they put up their own number for whatever re- I don't know what was going on, but yeah, it was gone.
27:39
So I actually have a- Okay... two and a half in the account. Let's just pretend that it was still one and a half. I would still be playing the Eagles. I, I have a pretty strong opinion on the Eagles in this game.
27:47
I think that there is a pretty good advantage in this game for the Eagles run offense versus the Chiefs run defense.
27:54
If you look and you go in, and you look over the second half of the season, EPA per play allowed on, from the rush side of things, rush success rate allowed, this Chiefs team's in the bottom half of the league when it comes to that.
28:04
Now in comes the best offensive line in the NFL with the best running back in the NFL, the guy who has... So here's the thing.
28:11
You get Saquon Barkley, and then you also get an offensive line that has him number one in the league in yards before contact, right?
28:18
So you have this guy who's awesome anyway, and he's not getting touched before any other running back in the NFL, right? It's like the perfect combination. He also seems to do this thing.
28:27
I don't know if you've noticed- Hmm... this about him.
28:29
They actually pointed it out during the Skins game also, where he has gotten this timing down to a science with the Eagles offensive line, where he almost, it's like not quite the Le'Veon Bell.
28:40
Remember Le'Veon Bell- Yeah. Oh... got to the point where he would just kind of- He would just kinda dance around... he'd be like, "Okay"... yeah, he would just do a little jig real quick and then end the tackle.
28:45
"Let me, let me sit back here for four seconds before I..." [laughs] It's not quite that, but, like, Saquon, as soon, he does that, like, hop step to the side- Hmm... and then bounces.
28:54
I've n- I've never quite seen it that, like, he seems to know- Yeah... exactly when to do it in, in a way that's not common. It's not like Le'Veon Bell because it, it's, it's like he's waiting for- Right...
29:03
it's like which offensive lineman's gonna get the biggest push, and I'm gonna go through that hole almost. Right. That's what it almost feels like. That's right. He's, he's- Yeah...
29:09
he knows where, where he's supposed to go, but he ha- he understands when to cut off that v- as great as anybody I've ever seen.
29:16
Man, not to de- derail the conversation, but anyone that has not been arrested, has anyone derailed their career more than Le'Veon Bell did? Oh. I mean, like that, I mean, in the h- in the height of his powers.
29:26
In the non-arrest category [laughs]... yeah, like, like- Yes... without getting arrested, like, without, like, you know, going to jail or committing a crime- Yeah, right... ha- did anyone do more harm to the...
29:34
Like, in the height of his powers, he's like, "Yeah, I'm just not gonna play anymore." I'm gonna, I'm gonna not play for a year. I'm just gonna not play. See how this works out. Keep that money. I don't need it.
29:41
Bold decision, guy. Yeah, it was just wha- but yeah, I, uh, Gil, you're exactly right.
29:44
I mean, just it's, it's crazy 'cause one of the things you hear, these scouts again, we always talk about not a scout, not a talent evaluator, but, like, it was that Le'Ve- uh, you know, Saquon's vision was just above average.
29:55
Mm-hmm. It wasn't like that he had great vision or whatever it was. Well, I mean, on, maybe it was the Giants offensive line.
30:00
Maybe it was, maybe it was just the scheme there, but I, whatever it was, but it does seem like something has changed since he's gotten to Philadelphia. Um, I mean this at, completely respectfully- Hmm...
30:08
because I'm, again, I'm on the Chiefs side. Hmm.
30:11
But I also fully admit, like, I g- I keep asking the question, yes, but if I saw, if o- if I, you know, if one team blows out the other, is it more likely to be the Chiefs blowing out the Eagles or vice versa?
30:20
I concede it would probably be the Eagles blowing out the Eagles, blowing out in quotes, right? Yeah. Um, but here's my question to the, to you and to those who have the Eagles.
30:30
What- How much is the thought in your head that as you're talking about this- Mm... and everything you're saying makes complete sense. Mm-hmm.
30:37
But then there's this terrible possibility for you guys that Patrick Mahomes just puts on his cape, right? And it's a three-peat, and who knows, maybe they even win their 18th consecutive one-score game.
30:49
What percentage of your brain is filled with the potential self-loathing of that? Oh, for sure. You know, honestly, I kind of paint the picture on both sides.
30:58
I try to, you know, in, in every game, and I kind of look at this and as opposed to Patrick Mahomes putting on the cape, I kind of just see it as Jalen Hurts shrinking in the moment more than I- Ooh...
31:08
than Patrick Mahomes putting on the cape. Like, I've- That's interesting, 'cause he didn't in the last Super Bowl. He, he, he... I, I look at the way that he played, granted, this last game, play- he played fantastic.
31:17
Games leading into that, not so much.
31:19
And if they get a ton of pressure on him, and, and if this offensive line gets tricked and, and they're a very, very good offensive line, but we know Spags has been able to make the greatest of offensive lines- Mm...
31:29
and the greatest of offensive coordinators look silly. If they're able to get home a ton a- and Jalen Hurts doesn't have time to kind of operate that offense,
31:37
I've painted the picture of how the Chiefs win this game and maybe even win this, maybe even win this game by double digits.
31:42
It's interesting, though, you say about Jalen Hurts, 'cause he, he did-- had the Eagles won that game against the Chiefs two Super Bowls ago- Mm... he probably is the MVP. Mm.
31:50
So that's interesting that you would think that somehow the script for the Eagles not playing well falls on him. Yeah. It's, it... He was better this past, again- Yeah...
31:58
he was better this past game, but he has had the propensity to hold the ball a little bit too long.
32:03
He has had the propensity to maybe not really just make decisive decisions when throwing and all of those things, and I, I can't get that out of my brain when we're talking about the conversation, is what if that happens again?
32:15
What if this defense that is put in front of him, what if these exotic blitzes, what if these crazy looks just fool him, just trick him, you know, and they can't get anything going?
32:23
And then if they're trying to be one-dimensional with Saquon Barkley, that's not gonna work.
32:27
What about, what about the simple handicap of those who say, "Yeah, it just comes down to I'd rather have Reid, Mahomes, and Butker- Mm...
32:33
if I throw in the kickers, versus Sirianni, Hurts, and Jake Elliott, who, who Will Hill has done a great job of pointing this out. Mm. We don't, we're not talking maybe enough about Jake Elliott. This is a close game.
32:47
Mm. Jake Elliott missed an extra point. We talked about this on the mega pod yesterday.
32:50
Missed an extra point against the Packers, missed two, I wanna say, in the next playoff game against the Rams, and then missed a field goal. It was a long field goal- Mm... against the c- Commanders.
33:00
What about that just simple, the triumvirate? That- I'd rather have this three than these three. Part of it goes to our conversion props conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Certainly the top two.
33:07
The kicker thing's interesting to me, 'cause I think Butker, when he, since he's come back from injury, has not looked the same, and I think Andy Reid's actually been a little reluctant to run him out there from longer distance, like, a- and, and all that.
33:16
But yeah, certainly the top two. I mean, that is kind of like the simple handicap, and it makes perfect sense, right? No one's gonna argue with you if you just go, "Hey, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes."
33:24
I'm, "Okay, good enough. Good enough for me." Sorry to make you feel uncomfortable in the middle. You can ask questions, too. Apologize. Kelly. [laughs] Yes. Kelly Bidlin, everybody.
33:32
Thank you for being able to work it in. [laughs] Matt's got props. We'll get to those next. It's the Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
33:38
[upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
33:53
Back on the Numbers Game live from Circa Resort Casino, downtown Las Vegas. Gil Alexander, Kelly Bidlin, Matt Brown. Just a few tweets here. We get tweets that beat to the book.
34:01
Wet Willy Cohen, "Is there not enough room for Matt Brown's movie theater screens on that desk? Very weird only seeing him with one singular laptop." He- It was, it was a choice. It was a choice. It was a choice. Yeah.
34:12
He's got plenty of room. He's got, like, half the desk over here. It was choice. [laughs] He's got half the desk. Yeah, yeah. [laughs] There we go. There. I just can't... Look at that.
34:21
Savannah is so mad at you right now for moving. Look at that. Oh my God. Look at that leg room. [laughs] Oh, Todd Bubba Horwitz, uh, tweeting in. He said, "First sack at MGM, bet MGM 50 to 1 on McDuffie."
34:32
Thank you, Todd. Uh, they don't have any time sack for him. So they do have first sack for McDuffie, answering the Joe Fortenberry question that we got earlier.
34:39
Bet MGM 50 to 1 McDuffie first sack, but they don't have an any time sack. I was shocked that that fir- the f- to have the first sack number was not way longer than that. Yeah, I would think it would be longer.
34:49
JasonH11, "At least get Kelly a taller chair. He looks like the kid that graduated to the adult table at Thanksgiving for the first time."
34:55
Well, Gil and I ju- did just figure out, thank you Matt Brown for informing us- [laughs]... that these chairs actually go up and down. We never knew it. We had no idea. Yeah. Never knew.
35:03
No wonder Samich's posture was so good. [laughs] Uh, real quick, our GBank best bets of the day before we get back to Matt here. Uh, GBank, the official bank of VSiN.
35:11
Every show recapping all their bets, hosts and guests, every single show on the network. Uh, mine once again, Chiefs minus one and a half. Uh, by the way, Matt Brown did show me a screenshot of the Chiefs- Mm-hmm...
35:22
minus two and a half on Sunday night. It is a real thing. Um, once again, on the Kendrick Lamar first song, I'm just gonna say this. I have a short shot, Not Like Us. I have a long shot at Swimming Pools.
35:32
But let me just say this, the first thing I said about this is,
35:36
if there were ever an artist that might do some funky thing beforehand, before getting to a first song a la Coldplay did back in the day, Kendrick might be that person. But those are my two bets.
35:45
National Anthem, we're four seconds of CLV, baby. It's at 121 now. We- Nice... we got to under 125, and by the way, the under 121 is juiced. Actually, it's under 120 and a half last I looked.
35:57
So that's four and a half seconds now. I'd still go under. And then I added a Kareem Hunt Chiefs first touchdown scorer at plus 425, and Kareem Hunt the first overall touchdown scorer at nine to one....
36:07
Kelay Bidelon Yeah, uh, nothing for me tonight, so everything Super Bowl. AFC, where's my AFC hat? It's, uh, the same price. I feel like I've asked Matt about this prop in years past too- [laughs]...
36:18
and he was like, "Don't bet that." He was e- he was equally enthusiastic. No, he was one of the- Yeah... no, he was one of those guys like, "Don't bet that. That's stupid." As, as I was. Yeah.
36:23
Uh, AFC to win Super Bowl, minus 115. Let's go Chiefs. Uh, Patrick Mahomes to win Super Bowl MVP, I am in on that at plus 125. Xavier Worthy over five and a half rushing yards.
36:33
Kareem Hunt over 42 and a half rushing yards. Isaiah Pacheco longest rush under eight and a half. Both teams to score one plus touchdown in each half, yes. Will there be a two-point conversion attempt? Yes, plus 110.
36:47
All right. Uh, also picks on the show today from JBT, Jonathan Vontobel from New Orleans. He's on the Eagles once again on the Moneyline, Super Bowl LIX. Xavier Worthy over five and a half rushing yards.
36:58
Eagles to convert a fourth down, no, at plus 550. He's going contrarian on that one. Likes the number at plus 550. And then Kareem Hunt, anytime touchdown.
37:07
Oh, he was on Kareem Hunt as well, but in a different way, at plus 140. Uh, also Jim Root, James Patrick Root from College Hoops, Mizzou and Tennessee under 134 and a half.
37:18
He is grabbing 17 points on Tulsa tonight against Memphis, and he's laying a point and a half with Nebraska against UW. Um, anything else that we have today after Jim Root? Joe Fortenbaugh. Yeah, Joe Fortenbaugh. Yeah.
37:30
Of course, who am I talking about here? Joe Fortenbaugh, A.J. Brown over 70 and a half receiving yards. Joe's a, uh, Eagles fan, homer. A.J. Brown anytime touchdown plus 165, homer.
37:41
Uh, Trent McDuffie, the one we were just talking about, 30 to 1 to record a sack, 50 to 1 to record the first sack of this game coming from the secondary. Uh, G-BAANG once again with Matt Brown.
37:52
Oh, we got one Matt Brown in before we get to his props. Yeah, little tease. Little tease. Eagles, Eagles plus two and a half. He got it in the 12-minute window. Yeah. Eagles plus two and a half versus the Chiefs.
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38:30
Matt Brown from Ready Set Bet, along with Mike Semanchir on the weekends, uh, he will be broadcasting live during Super Bowl LIX on Sunday. Always a thrill to have our old Prime Time Action co-host back with us.
38:42
Uh, Matt Brown, M2 on Twitter. That's it. Is that correct? Still. Still. Yeah. Yeah. You don't sound so excited about that Twitter handle. It's, it's, you know, we, we just, we battle with these, with the common name.
38:50
At least you guys, you know, fine, there's not very many Gills, there's not very many Bidlins, but- Yes... or c- certainly not Kellys with the EYs, you know, you're g- you're good to go. What's the...
38:58
Well, Matt, if- Matt Brown... if you do remember- [laughs] The, my Twi- 7 million of us, you know? My Twitter handle was taken forever, and I believe you discovered on Prime Time Action one night- Yes...
39:08
it was available. It was available. Yeah. And you nailed it. I, yeah, yeah. Nailed it. It's good for you. And assisted that. Wasn't there a UFC fighter named Matt Brown? There is also a UFC fighter named Matt Brown.
39:16
You got some of his tweets sometimes? I, I, I used to get his text messages sent to... Yeah, 'cause we were in the same industry. Oh. So we ran with the same people.
39:23
So, like, there would be people who would text me- They're like, "Dude, you suck"... thinking that... I got one not every, even very long ago from another fighter who was asking him like, "Dude, are you really coming?
39:32
Are you really considering, like, X, X, X," or something like that? And I was like, "I'm just not gonna answer this one." [laughs] Like, this is, there's, let's not have any fun with this.
39:38
It's always entertaining when Brian Ortega and Matt Brown fight. [laughs] Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's that. There's that. Uh, w- real quick before we get into this- Yes...
39:46
I know you've been, yeah, I heard you've been asking people about food and stuff down in New Orleans and whatnot. Yeah. Oh, you're the expert. Oh, you know something about Louisiana or something?
39:52
No, no, no, but what I, what I will say is like- Like you're from there... so if you're going down there with, like, your family and kids and stuff, like, maybe do the whole Cafe Du Monde thing.
40:01
Like, uh, like, you know- Very touristy... it's, it is a piece of fried dough just buried in powdered sugar. I mean, you, it's, it's, it's not- Beignets... a great, yeah, so b- I mean- It's not a groundbreaking...
40:14
Like, you're- Yeah... it's not like one of these desserts that you have and you go, "Oh, this is, like, why I came to New Orleans," right?
40:19
I mean, like, they invented Bananas Foster at Commander's Palace in New Orleans, right? Like, it was literally invented there.
40:25
You know, like you could go there and have it at the place where the dessert was invented and it's awesome, but, like, beignet is like, eh. All right, cool. Pecan or pecan? Ooh. Pecan. Pecan. Pecan. Pecan. Pea- pecan.
40:37
That's how I go. You go pecan? Oh. Yeah. Pecan pie. So you just mix all in together? Yeah, mix it all, mix them all in the place. Yeah. Good for you. Good for you. Pecan pie. All right, uh, sir. Yeah.
40:44
What are, what are your favorite props? What do you bet here? Uh, I have the worst of a number. Uh, I know it's typically unders late, overs early. I actually thought the Jalen Hurts passing prop was gonna get bet down.
40:53
I thought a lot of people would look at this and say, "Okay, in a lot of games where they have a ton of success, he's kind of in the high 100s as opposed to the 200s and stuff."
41:03
So I have an under 214 and a half with that. It's up to 215 and a half at some books out there.
41:08
So anyway, I, I, I typically do the whole unders late, o- overs early, but I, I thought this one was gonna get hammered, and it did not. So going in the opposite direction- I just suck at this... worst of it there.
41:18
Uh, Kareem Hunt over 10 and a half rush attempts is now up to 11 and a half rush attempts. I've also played the alt at 14 plus at plus 202.
41:25
I think Kareem Hunt is by f- easily the number one back there in Kansas City now. He has out touched Isaiah Pacheco in the last four games for this team that matter.
41:34
Obviously, week 18 didn't matter, but, like, the two games leading into that and the two playoff games.
41:38
So I s- I expect Kareem Hunt to try to see if he can get something going, and, and Andy Reid and them to get, see if they can get something going against this light box that Vic Fangio and them run with the Eagles defense.
41:46
I mean, that's his whole defense. He plays the super deep, two high shell thing, and, and that's the defense he's gonna play. So I, I expect him to get something going there.
41:54
So I took the over 43 and a half rushing yards with Hunt as well. Kind of a correlated deal, Isaiah Pacheco under nine and a half longest rush. That's down to eight and a half. I still think you could play it there.
42:04
I don't think he gets more than five or six carries in this. He only had a 10-yard rush four times this season as it was anyway. So, uh, for me, I like that a, a decent amount.
42:14
If I, if I like the Eagles, I gotta like Saquon. So I didn't play just the, the typical number here. I kinda laddered the alts, and so over 130, 140, and 150, that comes in at kinda like plus 170, plus 240, and plus 340.
42:27
Wow. Um, so kinda going with that, that kinda game script, right, of Saquon Barkley being able to have success, feeding him or- Didn't go over, didn't go over 200 for the record? I didn't do that.
42:38
I think that- Yeah, there you go... and that being said, if there's anyone that could do it, right? Yep. I mean, this guy can like pop off 60-yarders it seems like, you know, uh, left and right.
42:45
Uh, Dallas Goedert over 46 and a half receiving yards. I think it's up to like 48 and a half receiving yards now, but this was like literally...
42:53
By the way, the props came out because, again, we were, we were on air for- It's incredible. We talk about this all the time. Yeah. It's incredible. I was listening to you, I'm like, "Yeah."
42:59
Two minutes after, after the game. I mean, like we were in... So there were actually numbers to be got. This is something for next year- Yeah... to remember for everybody out there.
43:06
Like, there were numbers to be had literally two minutes as soon as the game was, was populated. It was- And on your desktop. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there you go. Shout out to MGM. Shout out. Shout out.
43:15
On your, on your actual computer. Yes. Shout out to MGM. Uh, I also took a dart on, uh, just a fun... This is, this is fun, guys. Fun. But I took a dart on Goedert for, uh, for MVP. It's like 125 to one. You took a what?
43:26
[laughs] Oh, a dart. Yeah. [laughs] Okay. There's, uh... I, I look at it from this standpoint. Is there a, is there a, is...
43:32
In one in 100 times if we play this game, is there a completely disgusting, gross game that finishes 17-13 where Dallas Goedert catches seven balls like he did against the, you know, in, a week, two weeks ago for 85 yards and a touchdown.
43:48
Saquon only goes for 74 and, you know, whatever and all that. Is, is there a world that exists that maybe he could end up 125 to one, Dallas Goedert. More of a fun one. Uh, last thing. Sports Talk Radio question. Mm-hmm.
43:58
If the Chiefs pull off the three-peat, regardless of everything the Patriots did- Mm-hmm... under Belichick and Brady, is this the s- would this be the single most impressive thing in pro football of all time?
44:08
I, I, I think so, for sure. Because, uh, we've changed how football is, right? Like, everybody's got more data. Everyone's got more tech. Yeah. Everyone knows how to analyze and all this other stuff.
44:15
Like, and they're figuring out how to beat it on the fly. I kinda think you're right. Mm-hmm. I do. Kelly, how are you enjoying being in the middle? You like it? I'm having a great time. You going again?
44:23
I'm, I'm just happy to be here. Matt Brown, everybody. Ready, Set, Bet, as they all crash [laughs] to the bottom. Stories next with Money Moves, a joy from Visa. The Sports Betting Network.
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