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Jan 20, 2026
A Numbers Game | January 20, 2026 | Hour 3
A Numbers Game | January 20, 2026 | Hour 3
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0:01
The numbers tell the story, they always do. For those idiots who believe in analytics. This is the Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
0:09
Hour number three of a Numbers Game at VSiN, eSports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course Sirius XM channel 158. Gil Alexander, television's Kelly Bidlin, everybody.
0:20
I'm radio's Gil Alexander. He brings the pretty every day. I heard yesterday that our YouTube TV numbers are big time. [laughs] Big time. That's what happens when you drop a hundy. Think there's a reason.
0:30
[laughs] And it's, and it's not you, Gil, it's me. [laughs] Still to go, still to come this hour, uh, Super Bowl look-ahead line, Super Bowl MVP. We haven't talked Super Bowl MVP this whole time yet. I know.
0:43
Just because it's that kind of year, right, which we'll get into. Uh, we'll do tennis sta- stage of eliminations as well for those interested in doing some, uh, in-tournament Aussie Open bets.
0:53
You can bet on stuff like that. Uh, Paul Carr is kind enough to join us midweek. It's, it's not often that we get him midweek, but when the Champions League is going on, uh, we get him midweek.
1:02
Usually it's just on Fridays for the Prem.
1:04
But it's a fitting morning to have him on on the morning after Indiana wins the national championship of college football, uh, because we were talking earlier about historical, historical numbers.
1:15
By the way, Paul, good morning, courtesy of the Progressive Guest Line. There's Paul right there, uh, @paulcarr, C-A-R-R, on Twitter.
1:21
We were talking earlier that in North American sports, Indiana 100 to 1 pre-flop this year, by far the longest odds since 2001 according to s- our buddy Blake over at Sports Odds History, uh, to win the college football national championship.
1:34
But from a North American sports perspective, only the Greatest Show on Turf Rams of 1999 were longer at 150 to 1, when again, Trent Green went down and a Arena League grocery sor- grocery store stock, uh, stockroom guy, Kurt Warner, ends up being their quarterback.
1:52
They end up winning the championship at 150 to 1. But you, sir, getting to the point, were at ESPN when Leicester City made their run to the Prem title. Can you walk us through that?
2:02
Yeah, this is one of those sports stories, it's so absurd that it was hard to put in context.
2:09
And this was, you know, this is 10 years ago this year, so sports betting was not as pervasive in the US or at ESPN as it is now. So, you know, Leicester was 5,000 to 1 to win the Premier League before the season.
2:22
[laughs] At the time, like the comps I was pulling out was like a 15 seed to win the NCAA tournament. Cal State Bakersfield had 5,000 to 1 odds to win that year.
2:30
And then there's all kinds of absurd things like Elvis is alive that you could find at the British books. Elvis is alive was 5,000 to 1. Right, yeah. That's what we're talking about. All kinds of nuts stuff like that.
2:39
That's the extreme sort of thing that we're talking about here.
2:42
Because, you know, your closest, I guess, MLB comp, 'cause you gotta have the financial disparity, would be like, you know, the A's or something winning the World Series now, not 20 years ago, but now.
2:53
But even those odds aren't what they used to be. You don't find 5,000 to 1 on even the worst teams before the season, because it really changed how, especially the British sports books, uh, put the numbers up there.
3:02
Yeah. We'll, we'll never see 5,000 to 1 again because of- Mm-hmm... uh, the story that was Leicester City. By the way, in addition, you had sent this, so I'm just gonna, I'm, I'm taking your shine.
3:12
But in addition to- Yeah, go...
3:13
in addition to Elvis Presley being found alive also being 5,000 to 1, some other 5,000 to 1 odds at William Hill back then, the British William Hill, the Yeti or the Loch Ness Monster proven to exist was 5,000 to 1.
3:27
Uh, after leaving office, Barack Obama plays cricket for England, 5,000 to 1. [laughs] And Kim Kardashian elected US president in 2020 was 5,000 to 1. Um- Right...
3:39
so that's what we were talking about with Leicester City. And you're right, not only British, but like, you know, even the notion of a bad NFL team being anything longer than 500 to 1 would never- Mm-hmm...
3:48
ever happen again because of Leicester City. But that, so, so I guess the whole point of that is what I'm saying is Indiana winning this title,
3:58
if it were 10 years ago, let's say, and there was no transfer portal, would've been the closest to a Leicester City that we had- Yeah... ever seen in this country is basically what I, what it comes to. Yeah, it's crazy.
4:10
There, yeah. And, and, and you throw in what you've said about there's the history behind it too. You know, there could, if, uh, whatever, Auburn was what, 50 to 1- Yeah... 10, 15 years ago.
4:20
But that's still Auburn, you know? It's a little bit different. They've had success.
4:24
Um, you know, I think if maybe if Kansas State had done it in the '90s when they had a chance to win a national title, didn't quite make it.
4:30
We're talking that kind of ineptitude historically, on top of they just weren't expected to do it before the season, which makes the Indiana story even that much better.
4:37
And, and you said Leicester City the year before had just been called up to the Premier League. Yeah. That was part of it, yeah. Yeah.
4:42
Yeah, I mean, they'd been, they were in the Premier League like 15 years before or so, but two years ago they were in the championship. Seven years before that, they were in the third division.
4:51
Uh, so they were, had finished 14th in the Premier League. It wasn't like, ooh, they're on the rise.
4:55
Like this was, this wasn't even a sleeper or one of those sexy picks that someone might make to kind of be weird before the season. The Premier League is so top-heavy- Yeah...
5:03
that it wasn't even a thought that anyone outside those top four or so teams could win it, let alone this team that just got back up to the Premier League. It's incredible.
5:10
La- last thing on this, 'cause you, you touched on it earlier, but I'm curious. So this was, again, 10 years ago. This was pre-PASPA being ruled unconstitutional. This was right before VSiN started, right? Yeah.
5:19
VSiN started in 2017. This was, this happened in 2016. You explaining to your ESPN colleagues, like what, what did that conversation look like? Yeah. I mean, first I had to explain like what's a Leicester, you know?
5:33
Right. Or, or really, how do you pronounce this, Leicester, Like-chester, whatever. Leicester, right. That was step one. Let's pronounce the club name right.
5:40
Uh, and then it was, you know, like where they finished, they were in the second division.
5:44
But the odds were really helpful then because I could say, you know, the Rams were 150 to 1, uh, you know, who, who's the, the worst team, you know, it was like week eight of the NFL season and this 318 was 5,000 to 1 to win the title.
5:58
Uh, so like putting it in perspective with the odds really helped a lot because you got to just the most absurd things that no one would ever think of betting on.
6:06
This, you know- I think it was like the 14 win Timberwolves in March- Yeah... were 5,000 to 1 win the NBA title. That kind of thing. That's it.
6:12
That, when people, that, that really just opened their eyes like, "Oh, like this is not just another soccer team I've never heard of winning the title, this really is absurd."
6:20
Well, Paul, I don't know if you know this, it's a numbers game. It is. It's what people have said before. Oh, it is. I've heard. Uh, heyyo, heyyo. Let's go to the, uh, present day Champions League.
6:28
Uh, that's why you're here today. So explain, we do this whenever this comes up. Explain to the- Yeah...
6:33
to the casual American sports fan who might not know what this is, what this is, and where we, uh, are in terms of the arc of this this year. Yeah.
6:41
From a big picture perspective, this is the best teams in Europe all coming together to play a, a tournament.
6:47
It's basically the NCAA tournament for college basketball, but they play it concurrently with the regular season instead of, you know, broken out at the end of the season. It's so weird. And the format does- Yeah...
6:56
it, it, it, it, I remember when I started getting into soccer, like when I was in college and I had a couple friends who had lived in England, they were explaining all this to me.
7:03
Like, it, it just takes a while to, for your brain to adjust. I mean, you play a lot of FIFA and it becomes second nature, so, um, but the- Right, and the, and the, and the- But the format- The NBA equivalent- Yeah...
7:12
is not the equivalent because it's the very same teams playing in a mid-season tournament in the NBA Cup. Right. So it's not like- Right... yeah, different leagues. It's not quite the same. Right. Right.
7:20
If they invited, you know, teams from Spain or whatever to come play in this other tournament at the same time, it'd be kind of like that.
7:26
Uh, but the format's worth pointing out here again, because this changed a couple years ago.
7:29
This is the second year, I believe, in this new format, where instead of these, you know, four groups of four like you're kind of used to in tournament soccer, in the group stage they now have one giant table of 36 teams.
7:40
And so you're not playing everybody obviously, but they try to balance the schedule as much as possible from a quality of opponent. And the top 24 of those 36 advance to the round of 32.
7:49
There's some incentives to finish in the top eight, because you get a bye to the round of 16. So it's a weird thing where- Hmm...
7:55
like kind of the first six match days I think matter less, but now we're in the last couple, and there's finally some clarity on who might advance, who, uh, is trying to get the bye and things like that.
8:05
So where, h- so how many teams are left now? They're all still there, but we have two games left in this group stage. Gotcha.
8:11
So, you know, I don't think anybody's clinched advancement, because you play so few games it's just gonna be tight.
8:16
But we're at the point where some teams are gonna start clinching certain spots today and tomorrow, and we'll have a lot more clarity heading into the final group match day in a week or two.
8:26
I see, the seventh of eight group games. Gotcha. Yep. Okay. Exactly. And you landed on three of these. What do you have for us? Yeah. We're gonna start with Copenhagen and Napoli over two and a half.
8:36
Uh, I got a terrible number at this, at plus 105. It's moved to like plus 120, plus 125 this morning, so obviously that's better.
8:43
Uh, Copenhagen scores a lot in the Danish Super League, and they've scored in all three Champions League home games.
8:48
And they've also conceded at least two, uh, in all six of their Champions League games so far this season. So five of their six have had four plus goals.
8:55
That includes some home games against teams in Napoli's class, a Dortmund, a Leverkusen. Uh, Napoli's had been playing well, but they kind of slowed down in Serie A the last, uh, few weeks down to third place.
9:05
But they have been attacking better lately. Uh, that'll open them up a little bit more in the back and obviously lead to goals, I think on both ways. Copenhagen really needs a result here.
9:14
A win would be great, because they're on the bubble to advance. So I think we're gonna, this one will be a little more open than the numbers might suggest. Uh, over two and a half I get, I got a plus 105.
9:23
You should be able to get at least plus 120 out there this morning. All right. That's today, Copenhagen and Napoli over two and a half goals.
9:30
Paul said he got a, uh, there's better numbers out there than he got at plus 105. Then tomorrow a couple. Yeah. Feel, this one feels a little chalky, but I'll lay a goal and a half with Barcelona.
9:40
Barcelona as Slavia Prague. Uh, Slavia Prague, one of the worst teams in the group right now. They're 33rd out of 36 teams. They lost to Tottenham, they lost to Arsenal, they lost to Inter all by three goals.
9:52
Barcelona's as good or better than all those teams. Uh, so winning by a couple is pretty reasonable. Barcelona's motivated because they're in 15th, but only four points clear of elimination.
10:02
So you win here, you lock up a spot, uh, heading into the last match day. Barcelona's first in La Liga, but this, this feel, doesn't feel like they are.
10:11
They, they had won nine straight La Liga games by two plus goals till, uh, this last weekend when they kind of got soccered by Real Sociedad, lost, uh, despite outplaying them. So they should have Raphinha back.
10:21
God, soccered. So Barcelona will lay the goal. I love that. They got soccered. [laughs] They outshot them 25 to seven. Yeah. 3.7 expected goals, less than one, and lost two to one. So they got soccered.
10:29
Yeah, I like that term. And then, uh, what's this? Yeah. An over three and a half goals between Bayern Munich from the Bundesliga and, uh, what is this? Union Saint-Gillo, Gillois from, from Belgium.
10:41
It, that's pretty good. Yeah. I was gonna make Kelly pronounce that I think. Oh, I'm sorry. But you did pretty well. Took your shine, apologize. Yeah, Union Saint-Gilloise. Yeah.
10:47
Uh, this is, uh, this is over team total for Bayern, over three and a half plus 115. Uh, but I mean, look, Bayern's at home.
10:54
They need a big win here to wrap up a top eight spot, scoring three goals a game in Champions League, but put up four or more against the kind of bottom feeders like Pafos and Club Brugge that they've played.
11:04
So, you know, Harry Kane probably gonna get one or two. He's scoring more than a goal per game. Uh, Saint-Gilloise is, they give up four to Inter, four to Newcastle, both at home.
11:14
So this kind of, again, feels a little chalky, but I can get plus money on Bayern scoring four at home against a bad team. I'll take that here. Paul Carr, everybody.
11:22
Triple, triple pack of, uh, Champions League picks against Copenhagen, N- uh, Napoli today over two and a half goals. Tomorrow Barcelona laying the goal and a half against Slavia Prague, or if you're Bouji, Barcelona.
11:34
Mm-hmm. The Castellano pronunciation. And Bayern Munich over three and a half goals against Saint-Gilloise. It's clearly St. Gillois, guys. Come on. [laughs] Thank you, Paul. Paul Carr has pronounced- You bet...
11:46
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11:56
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12:16
[upbeat music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network. So, uh, now that, uh, football has been winding down- Yeah...
12:34
right, the NFL. Do you have YouTube TV by any chance? No.
12:38
So YouTube TV suggests to you, like, or it doesn't suggest to you, it, it basically knows what you've watched, and so at the top of your screen, it gives you, like, sort of the networks you've most watched or the shows that you've most watched at whatever time slot you happen to be watching.
12:52
So at night, you know, like, I'll get Cashing Out VSiN, right? Right. Dust- The great Dustin Sweetelsen will show up as one of my, "Hey, you know, here's something you watch. Oh, here it is again."
13:02
Um, but because football is winding down, this was pre-Australian Open last week. Apparently, one of these nights, Murder, She Wrote came up as one of my things.
13:12
Now, 'cause apparently one night I must have, like, flicked on Murder, She Wrote, 'cause John Madden and Pat Summerall- Fell asleep on the couch or something...
13:17
Pat Summerall and John Madden used to r- you know, joke with each other. That was their thing when they were drunk in the booth doing CBS games in the '80s and the early '90s.
13:26
How long can the distance go between the word murder and she when they did the promo? When Pat, and so Pat Summerall would crack up John Madden doing this, and it would get longer and longer.
13:35
[laughs] They'd be like, "Murder-" She Wrote [laughs] "... She Wrote," right?
13:39
So I started watching, just as a late-night thing to fall asleep on, this is last week, I just started watching, catching Murder, She Wrote episodes. Let me just say this. Nothing gets by Angela Lansbury.
13:51
She, don't, if you're gonna commit a crime, don't go up to her bumble-whatever town up in the Northeast and commit a crime. She will figure it out. But then the same- You fell asleep to Murder, She Wrote the other day...
14:00
this, this same channel- Yeah... this same channel now is producing, which I've never seen, well, when I say I've not watched five seconds of these two shows in my life, I'm probably overshooting it by three seconds.
14:11
Little House on the Prairie and The Waltons. Yeah. These are shows that when I was a little boy, even I was like, "God bless, these shows are old. I'm never watching these," right?
14:22
So I actually started wa- I started doing, like, a deep dive on these old shows, 'cause now I'm like, "Okay, it's off-season. I get to, like, actually, like, return to humanity," after the Australian Open, of course.
14:31
Um, but the, uh, some of these things are, are, I, like, I, I started doing a deep dive. So apparently in the '70s and early '80s, American audience, these shows were wildly popular. American audience.
14:42
Murder, She Wrote was, like, late '80s. Right.
14:43
And Murder, She, uh- And, and to your point, I thi- I think I've forced myself to watch eight minutes of Little House on a Pra- on the Prairie I, I'm fascinated by this, because apparently The Waltons was a show set in the, like, 1910s.
14:55
Mm-hmm. And it was, like, the number one show on TV about, like, some farm Virginia town, Virginia family.
15:03
And then the L- and then based on the success of The Waltons, apparently NBC decided, 'cause I guess The Waltons was on CBS or something like that- Okay...
15:10
or ABC, and then the, uh, I think CBS, and then the NBC decided we need something equivalent, and they come up with a show, Little House on the Prairies, which was set in the 1880s in, like, Minnesota.
15:20
And I'm like, "These shows were wildly popular in the '70s, '80s? How?" I'm fascinated by the sociology of that. That is pretty crazy.
15:28
That is pretty cra- I haven't thought that far back on stuff like that 'Cause there's only three networks, I guess. Right, yeah, yeah. God, just it's amazing to me. Anyway. I mean, I, I have not seen...
15:36
I, I remember making myself, like, yeah, I remember flipping on Little House on the Prairie, and it was like, "All right, you know what? I should take five minutes and watch this.
15:44
This is a piece of American history that I am not, like, I don't know anything about," right? I couldn't get pa- The Waltons, I've never seen a minute of. I couldn't get past- Never seen a minute...
15:51
I couldn't get past two and a half, two minutes of, of Little House on the Prairie. Yeah, that's pretty bad if I remember. I got through a little more of The Waltons. Waltons? Okay. Yeah. I've never, I've never- Yeah...
15:59
seen a second of The Waltons. Murder, She Wrote, psht, I'll binge episodes. That Angela Lansbury's so amazing. Didn't they redo that? I don't know. Like, probably, like, four times. I don't know. I don't know.
16:09
We get tweets beating the book. JC562076, "Tell that previous listener talking about coming to sign up for contests to ask Kelly for some late-night doctor appointment tips." What was that in reference to again?
16:20
Oh yeah, you, oh, this wasn't you. I have no idea. This was our, no, remember we had a- I absolutely no idea what we're talking about.
16:25
[laughs] Where we had that listener who had those, like, late-night doctor appointments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [laughs] Where was that? I don't r- that was Corbin, right? Yeah. I think it was Corbin. Corbin, I think, yeah.
16:33
Uh, Jim Alt- Altorio, thank you for posting the, uh, Franz Klammer epic 1976 downhill run at Innsbruck. It was Canada. That was the answer. Canada.
16:42
Remember he, and we were like, "Yeah, sure, you're going to the doctor at nine o'clock at night. Yeah, okay." Jim Altorio working overtime.
16:49
@JDtheOldFather, he's also showing a Bella, a Bella Danger crying after the Miami loss yesterday. Poor girl. And then Kevin Downs, my brother from another, "You have to watch Osaka walk in with that outfit.
16:58
They followed her from the locker room. Looked like runway with water on sides." Runway with water on sides. Maybe there was a typo there at the end. Like a fashion runway? I gotta see it.
17:08
I saw the still shot of it, but I gotta see the, uh, the actual footage of it. All right. Super Bowl MVP is a market that typically, Kelly, you and I will talk about pre-post-season, like when the playoff field is set.
17:21
Mm-hmm. We'll often talk about Super Bowl MVP market as a way to bet the Super Bowl by proxy. So in other words, let's take the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl years, right? Maybe they have more.
17:32
I don't mean to put it in the past, but you know what I mean.
17:34
So we would often say, "Hey, listen, if the Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl," this is before the playoffs start, "it's very likely that Patrick Mahomes will be their MVP. Why not get a, take a better price?
17:45
If you think the Chiefs are gonna win it all, why not take a better price on Patrick Mahomes to win MVP than you would the Chiefs to win the actual Super Bowl?"
17:51
And there was many instances like this over the years, I'm just using the most obvious one, where betting the Super Bowl MVP market by proxy was a strategic way to bet. This year, we have not talked about it. Why?
18:03
I will just sort of, we've not, Kelly and I have even talked about it off air. I will just suggest that because it is the most free-for-all of all seasons,
18:11
that you hardly know who's gonna win the Super Bowl, let alone who's gonna be the MVP of those teams- Yeah... winning the Super Bowl. So this is not something that we have discussed until this moment.
18:22
When we're down to the final four, if you will, Sam Darnold is your Super Bowl MVP short shot because the Seahawks are the Super Bowl short shot, and because he is the quarterback of said Seattle Super- uh, Seattle Seahawks.
18:33
I almost said SuperSonics. Sam Darnold is the short shot at plus 260. It also follows that Drake May of the Patriots, right, the AFC Championship favorite, is plus 290. He's the quarterback of the Patriots.
18:44
Matthew Stafford, the short NFC quarterback underdog, is three to one. Nowhere pictured on this screen, except until you get to 20 to one, would be Jarrett Stidham of the AFC underdog Broncos.
18:58
In between Stafford and Stidham, then you have a couple Seahawks and a Ram, which is Kenneth Walker, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, and Puka Nacua. So all this makes se- by the way, 13 to one, 15 to one and 15 to one.
19:09
All of that makes mathematical sense, but again, it is one of those years where it has not been a market that we have touched on because of just this wacko nature of the NFL this year.
19:20
Yeah, a great breakdown, 'cause I'm actually, I actually think I'm more excited to talk Super Bowl- It's different... MVP this year 'cause it's different- Yeah...
19:26
because we've really, as you just put very well, we've been kinda using it as a substitute to bet, uh, you know, Super Bowl futures for the past few years it feels like.
19:34
And, like, I'm just staring at that odds board right now, like, okay, who's the, the, the guy who's the most obvious quarterback that you'd attach to a team is Matthew Stafford, but like, I don't, like, there's other big names on that roster.
19:45
There's other big names. Right? Like- Yeah... Puka Nacua has a huge game. He is very live to steal that from Stafford. Yes. And Sam Darnold has Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Kenneth Walker. Yeah.
19:55
And Rasheed Shaheed, right, who is, by the way, can we just state again, what a trade deadline pickup he ended up being from a special teams standpoint.
20:03
So in the follow-up to Je- Jeff Erickson's segment, one of the ones that I went to go look for was, were there any Shaheed rushing props posted?
20:10
Like, I, I think Shaheed, if the Seahawks make it, will be one of those longer shots that we hear brought up a ton as far as people betting. 'Cause he's involved in special teams- Right... right?
20:19
And he's, they might involve him in multiple ways on the offensive side of the ball. Is there a bet here? Like, I mean, that's the thing. It's, again,
20:27
n- not everybody has conviction on one team like they would on a Mahomes-led Chiefs team. Yeah. And then on top of that, as we just mentioned, it's not like the quarterback is singular like Mahomes.
20:39
So here, I guess here's the way I think about it. Now, it's, for me, there's not something that's jumping out to m- to bet right now, right? Me neither.
20:44
But I think if you are, if you're someone who is very strong on the Rams or the Seahawks, right, uh, you know, Ra- Rams over the Seahawks or Seahawks over the Rams, then sure, get in front of your, you know, if you really wanna bet Stafford to win Super Bowl MVP or something, that number will be shorter.
20:59
I don't think it's worth it right now, though. I'd probably just wait. Um, and I, I guess the same could be said for the Patriots, right?
21:05
If you think the Patriots is such a, such a slam dunk this weekend, and you like them against one of these NFC teams, then you could start finding longer odds on some of their players right now.
21:13
Puka feels like- But that feels built into it, doesn't it, Gil? Yeah. Like, Drake May plus 290, like, that's all you're getting- Right... on Drake May right now.
21:20
Puka at 15 to one, which by the way, is also not as long as it should be, right? Like, th- that's where, that one's a great example. Yeah. I'd just wait till week of and bet him at nine to one or whatever he's gonna be.
21:30
Yeah. I just, yeah, I think you're right, but he's the- You can't put a non-quarterback that much shorter. No. He's the one non-quarterback on there where you can sort of,
21:39
if you, if you think the Rams are beating the Seahawks, you can sort of- Absolutely...
21:42
go into your brain and think, "Could I see Puka Ma- making, like, three amazing Super Bowl plays, including one ridiculous catch that gives him the MVP?" Sure you could. But I think you're right. I think you're right.
21:55
Like, why bet it now? You're not gonna get that much worse next week if they advance. But- There's, there's n- y- y- you know. Yeah. Is it, is it worth the risk to just get a few more points on the, on the odds?
22:08
I don't think so. I, yeah, I don't think it is. I don't think so. Yeah, I think for us, again- Yeah... I think, I think for us, for two weeks with this, this, like, I think there are some wild cards here.
22:15
I think we're gonna hear some good arguments, uh, in the two weeks between a conference championship and the Super Bowl for some Super Bowl MVP bets. Can you- I'm looking forward to it.
22:22
Can you repeat what you said yesterday about the look-ahead lines? You are, you are betting one of these? Yes, I did bet one of them yesterday. Yeah.
22:27
Real qu- real quick, though, I wanted to go look at what, what the Broncos odds are, odds are to win the Super Bowl. 11 to one, which I was surprised, 'cause Stidham was 20 to one.
22:36
And, uh, I guess let's do the reverse of what we said. Would you bet Stidham in this market instead of the Broncos? Oh, I, I would say no. Yeah, me either. Because they'll look for a reason- Yes... not to give it to him.
22:50
Yes. They will look for a reason to get to the defense- Yes... or something like that. Yes. Which then calls into mind a whole nother, nother bunch of players that aren't even listed here, but again.
23:00
I think, I think he's the one, Gil, that I, of everybody pictured, if you're watching it, he's the one guy where I'd be like, "Do not bet this," for multiple reasons. All things being equal, it will not go to Stidham.
23:11
Let's put it that way, as opposed to the other quarterbacks. Coming back with some tennis stage of elimination bets on a Numbers Game right here at VSiN, the sports betting network.
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That's V-S-I-N.com/subscribe. The silent G always gets me. Yeah, it's a good one. Never not funny. It's a good one. Let's go to the regular rotation category. We get tweets, beat the book. JasonH11, "Good night, Gilly.
24:20
Good night, Kelly. Good night, John-Boy." Apparently that's how they ended every Waltons episode. Oh. Yeah. Rich Copro, "As an old man, I remember Little House as well.
24:27
A contributing factor to its popularity may have been that Michael Landon was very popular with the ladies." Mm. Oh, really? Was he? Hm. Good for you, Mike. Yeah, there you go.
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Uh, Brian M says, "I wouldn't bet it 20 to one, but Stidham's two starts in 2022 for Las Vegas versus the Niners and Chiefs, 365 yards passing against the Niners, 219 with 50 yards rushing versus the Chiefs.
24:55
If he does something in the middle and scores a rushing touchdown, he's the MVP," says Brian Moriannon. All right.
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And Rick Ollier, "Just woke up, and let me preface this by saying that growing up an Indiana fan, an IU fan, these last two seasons have felt like an absolute dream.
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I've been so emotional since last night that when friends and family called, I, uh... Wait, was that a Bella Danger? Oh, what was I saying?" [laughs] That was his tweet. Nicely done, Rick Ollier. Yeah, it was. Sorry.
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Bobby Gettys, "I just watched, uh, Marco Odermatt's Alpine ski run based on Drew's suggestion. Despite knowing he finished it, I was literally scared for the guy. Nonetheless, ever trying to do something...
25:31
Nonetheless, never trying to do something like that myself. My God." Uh, downhill skiing, and, uh, this, this applies to the Franz Klammer run in 1976 as well. Hurling your body down the side of a mountain
25:45
on slippery items that you attach to your feet is just insane, just when you try to wrap your brain around what you are doing. And these guys and girls are fearless in doing this. It's ins- It's pure insanity.
26:01
There's a lot of things, unfortunately, in life, I, I guess as you get older, like, like, ha- have you, have you done much skiing? I skied when I was a kid. Yeah, but it was East Coast skiing.
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Like, it was, like, in, you know, you grew up in- Yeah... DC. My dad was, is not from this country, so he wanted to expose his kids- Right... to skiing.
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So we would go to, like, [laughs] East Coasters will love this, Ski Round Top in Liberty in Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah. [laughs] It was the worst. The worst thing ever. Like, so, like, my point is though, like, like- Yeah...
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y- have you... Like, I have some desire, I guess, to do it again, but it's expensive as hell and it's kinda like- So expensive... it's kinda like my golf game, right?
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Like, Drew's talking about, like, how he's gonna go to Mammoth this weekend to get ready. It's like, who has the time for that? That's exactly my take on skiing.
26:41
If you, if I knew that you could chopper me onto the top of the mountain- And that'd be great... then I would do it over- Right... and over and over. Yes, me too.
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But you mean to tell me I gotta, I gotta drive hours to wherever the skiing is. Yeah, yeah, you gotta travel, and then I get the opportunity to pay thousands of dollars to let- For snow tires, right?
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[laughs] Then you, then you get, uh, yeah, then you pay a lot for the lift. Right. For the lift ticket. For you to let me on the mountain. Then you gotta get up, up- To take me up a mountain...
27:05
it's just the hassle involved in it has never interested me. Yeah, me either. Yeah. But God bless my dad who tried to- Big... Uh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, mine too, and everybody out there. Oh, and then I- And God bless Drew.
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And then- But yeah, put me, go on a beach somewhere. Well, and also that's the difference between East Coast and West Coast, right?
27:17
Like, and then you, after growing up on East Coasts powder skiing where, like, you're more likely to be skiing on ice than anything, then you go experience, like, Vail or Aspen or anything- Right, yes, yeah...
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west of, of the Roc- You're just like, "This is a, this is heaven." [laughs] It is incredible. Tahoe, amazing ski. Like, all that stuff is just incredible.
27:38
I always envisioned, like, we, we had Mammoth once or twice when I was a kid and we were, I was growing up in LA for a few years. It was one of the pit stops in the young Bidlack journey. But the, uh...
27:47
Like, I, whenever I hear Mammoth brought up these days, I'm like, is everybody j- basically everybody from LA goes up there? Like, it's the weekend, it's like, "Hey, let's go ski." Mammoth must be a zoo.
27:56
No, I think it's Drew. It's Drew and nobody else. Oh, okay. [laughs] That's why he has the whole mountain to himself. Corbin, "Good morning, fellas. Mr. Late Night here.
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I'm just so enthralled, but I'm going d- I'm gonna-" Oh, good morning, Mr. Corbin. "I'm gonna go down in numbers game history as the late night appointment guy. Couldn't be more proud.
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And hey, Kelly, it was 11:30 at night. Don't shortchange me, all right?" [laughs] Really. Yeah, it was late. Yeah. [laughs] Uh, the butler did it.
28:15
Carson Beck told reporters he hasn't been attending class since graduating college in 2023. How is this possible? How is he eligible?
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You know, I, it's funny, I, I don't know about the eligibility and all that stuff, but I would've liked for Carson Beck to at least act like he was going to school. Like, he was, he was being asked- Well, if he was-...
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by a reporter and he was like, "Eh, I graduated two years ago, I don't care." Yeah, no, I caught that too. Um, I actually, I appreciate the transparency, but yeah, I'm kinda still asking how too.
28:40
Real quick before we get to tennis. Like, that used to be a college basketball thing. Remember?
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It was like the, all I gotta do is go to school for the first semester because, like, it doesn't matter because I'm g- I'm gonna be graduating or I'm going in the first round of the draft. I don't need to go to class.
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Maybe if you had attended classes still, you wouldn't have underthrown that pass. I think I can draw a line from that to that. It goes without... Carson Beck's had, like, what? Like, eight years of schooling.
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That's enough. [laughs] That's enough. Um, okay, before we get to the tennis stage of eliminations. Yeah. Super Bowl look ahead line yesterday, you said you- I did bet less, yeah. You, you bet the Rams.
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Good on the stations having these up. I, I laid three with the Rams against the Patriots, and I was thinking about- Okay... we did get that question tweeted us about, like, the,
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the stage of elimination for the Patriots, right? No, not a better bet than this, right? 'Cause Ram- Rams, Patriots doesn't occur. This is a, uh, th- this is a get your money back situation, right?
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If the Patriots lose, if you bet them stage of elimination to lose in the Super Bowl, you still gotta get by this week.
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Um, so yeah, I, I think better if you've g- if you've got conviction on one of the NFC teams, better to bet into this market, which I did, but really only 'cause of the number, right?
29:39
It's Rams three versus Seahawks three and a half. I think if the Seahawks were a three, I'd be interested in that as well. All right.
29:46
And then you, uh, yesterday you touched on this, but I don't think we, like, lingered on it enough. You took the Blazers season win total over in the NBA. Yeah, I bet that.
29:53
Gil, I'm a little surprised this hasn't, this hasn't moved more. We got Denny back in the lineup. I really like this right now. The, the market respected your bet so much they stayed right where they were?
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That, that's right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Ex- and we were talking about, I bet- Yeah...
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I bet into it on, uh, the other night when they were in the middle of a game still, and they really hasn't moved since they p- uh, picked up a win. Uh, but yeah, I, Blazers right now are 22 and, no, 20 and 22.
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20- 22 and 22. Geez. They gotta finish 18 and 20 to get this home, so we know they have to finish 500. They've got the third easiest remaining strength of schedule.
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Deni Avdija back in the lineup, Jrue Holiday back in line- uh, lineup, Jerami Grant back in the lineup, Scoot Henderson possibly still to come, although that's been a little concerning how quiet so that, that's been.
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Look at all your NBA bets. Look at that. I know, right? A lot of it not looking good right now. Um- Trail Blazers 13 and six their past 19 games.
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13th best net rating in that time, 18th best offense, but the defense is what's really come along.
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Top 10 defense right now is what we were kind of expecting heading into this season if they were gonna play good, uh, play well this season.
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I really like it with Klingon kind of anchoring things down there in the back end and what they're able to do on the peri- perimeter.
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I think this is a team that's headed straight for the play-in, and they might be a fight for the playoffs. So yeah, over 39 and a half, I l- I love that. Caesars got it minus 115 right now. You ain't gotta lay that much.
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Here, here's your Charlotte Hornets win-o-meter. Kelly- Picked up another one the other day... Kelly's raised to 30 for his alt season win total over. That's right. At 16.
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Appreciate JVT for building it all the way out to 30. It's a beautiful thing. We just gotta clear 26 and a half for the win total, but I want that alt money. All right, all right. Let's go country clubbing. Let's do it.
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[upbeat music] Yeah. Don't put our glow sticks out. [laughs] We lost our glow sticks. Oh, only got two glow sticks back there. Poor effort by the crew today. What are those people drinking? Uh.
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Some f- fake mocktails in the open. I don't like that. Really? Just call Ben Wilson and ask him what- Keep it legit. Yeah... ask him what his family drinks. [laughs] We'll know. All right, uh, let me do the men's here.
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We'll get to the ladies on the other side. But the men's, these are just stage of elimination, at what point match-ups will these players be, uh, knocked out of the Australian Open, and is there a bet to be made?
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Let's start on the, on the men's side. Alexander Bublik, who will advance further at the Australian Open is the wording on this.
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Alexander Bublik minus 340 versus our guy Lorenzo Musetti, one C by the way, not two, at plus 220.
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Uh, despite having Musetti at plus 650 to win his quarter, I don't think there's a bet here, and the reason I don't is because Bublik is appropriately favored.
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Bublik faces, uh, Alex de Minaur, the Demon, in the round of 16, and then would have Alcaraz in the quarters.
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So he's, that's probably where he ends, whereas Musetti in the round of th- in the, in the round of six- excuse me, the, uh, third round, would have Tomas, um, Machac, and then would have Taylor Fritz in the round of 16 before he meets Djokovic in the quarterfinals.
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So I just think Musetti's climb is that much more difficulty, so I think that one's appropriately priced. I do think there's a bet here. Djokovic is minus 155, Medvedev plus 110 in that matchup. Done deal.
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I think there's a bet on Medvedev here, because Djokovic gets, um, Fritz and/or Musetti in the quarters, and he would have Sinner in the semis. He's not beaten Sinner.
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Whereas Medvedev gets Carlitos in the quarterfi- excuse me, gets, uh, Sascha Zverev in the quarters and Carlitos in the semis. I think it's more likely Medvedev advances or you get a tie here.
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So I would take Medvedev at plus 110. Mensik versus Fonseca, I actually would take a shot at Mensik, because guess what? Fonseca's done, so you can't even bet this anymore. That's out.
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[laughs] Taylor- Oh, so that one is out... Taylor Fritz minus 250 versus Ben Shelton. I would take Ben She- the best one here on the board is Ben Shelton plus 175. This is the best bet of these four.
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Because Taylor Fritz is gonna have either Musetti or Machac in the round of 16, and then Joker in the quarters, not to mention Sinner in the semis.
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Whereas Shelton's first real test is going to be Sinner in the quarters, who he's not gonna beat, but I just think there's a po- there's a world where Fritz doesn't even get to the quarters.
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So I think you're looking at a tie or a win. That's why I would bet Ben Shelton at plus 175 in that matchup. At the worst, yeah, I think you're gonna get refunded. Like it. So Ben Shelton plus 175 is the best bet there.
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Daniil Medvedev against Djokovic at plus 110 the second-best.
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We'll do a few of these for the, uh, ladies side on the other side, and we'll recap all the bets as well on a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
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Back on a Numbers Game, un partido de numeros for those listening in Spanish. We got Sweet Speed in the booth, Brian M.
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What I'm hearing about skiing from this last segment is Kelly's going water-skiing in a hurricane next trip to Florida. Okay. That's wonderful. Oh, see, that's another one.
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Like, even that's, that's less reps, but- [laughs]... th- there's no way. It would take me two weeks to try to, try to get up water-skiing. [laughs] You ever done that one? No, I n- water-skiing never interested me.
34:52
I tried it, like, one time. My grandma used to live on a lake, little lake in the Coconos. It's a knack, right? You gotta get the hang of it. Right, yeah. Yeah. You gotta get the hang of it. Yeah.
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Uh, Thomas O'Toole, "A lot of people goin- a lot of people go to college for seven years," like Carson Beck. Yeah, they're called doctors. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay, Carson. I did five.
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Uh, before we recap the bets and before we go into the, uh, the women's side of this, can we show that, uh, who will advance further at the Australian Open men's graphic once again that, that, uh, we were dealing with the last segment?
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'Cause I would like to, uh, put this forward as Kelly Bidlin's finest work ever. [laughs] Uh, Lo- I typed up two graphics yesterday. Let's, let's just- That's it... go through this.
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Lorenzo Musetti's misspelled with two Zs. Yeah. Uh, Novak Djokovic missing the minus in front of his 155. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the favorite there. Yep. Uh, he- Sorry about that...
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uh, and Jakub Mensik not only missing the minus in front of the 200, but also against a player who's already been knocked out of the tournament already. Yep. [laughs] Well, that one's unfair- Yeah...
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'cause di- didn't Fonseca happen during the show this morning? No, it happened last night. Yep, yep, missed that then. Yeah. All right. Let's recap the bets before- It's good having Danny's help. That's right. Danny.
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At some point he's just gonna tell me to not help anymore- Eh... 'cause that's not, it's not very helpful when you're making those mistakes. How about a Fresca? We'll- Yeah, I know-... we'll do the winners...
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I know Wyatt will laugh his ass off at this. The, the Lorenzo Musetti, it's, it's... There's one, there's one city name that I struggle with a lot spelling wise. Mm-hmm. Cincinnati with the Ns and the Ts.
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One N, two Ns, one T. Yeah, and the, and Musetti's kinda throwing that at me with the Ss and the Ts, so I, uh, clearly I was focused in on that and I screwed up Lorenzo.
36:24
Real quick on the, uh, on the ladies side of this, five, five different match-ups. Again, best bets on that men's side, Ben Shelton plus 175 in my opinion, followed by Medvedev at plus 110 in their respective match-ups.
36:35
On the ladies' side, um, not as much here. I don't think there's a bet in the Anisimova, Andreva one. I think that's properly priced. Anisimova's minus 200 to advance further than Mirra Andreeva Um, why?
36:50
Because Anisimova has Pegula in the quarter. She has Noskova in the round of 16, who I think they'll, I think she'll beat, although Zach and Drew like Noskova, um, just in general. But you got...
37:02
Anisimova has Pegula in the quarters, whereas Andreva has to play either Schneider or Svitolina in the round of 16, and then Coco and- or Muchova in the quarters. I just think
37:12
it's more likely that Andreva gets knocked out before that. So I don't think there's a bet there. Sabalenka's minus 250 over Iga, the great Iga Swiatek at plus 175.
37:21
I think that's correctly priced because Iga got the worst of the draw, right? She's got Osaka in the round of 16, Bencic or Rybakina in the quarters, not to mention then Anisimova or Pegula in the semis.
37:31
Whereas Sabalenka, I mean, her road to the semis is kind of clear. So that has to be priced that way, so I don't think there's a bet there. Uh, Coco's minus 125 versus Elena Rybakina, who's minus 110.
37:45
I think that's kind of properly priced because I think both of these ladies are susceptible to an upset in the round of 16.
37:52
Coco to Muchova perhaps, Rybakina to Bencic, not to mention in the quarters where Coco would have to play Andreva, Rybakina would have to play Osaka or Swiatek. So I, I don't think... I think that's properly priced.
38:01
It's kind of a coin flip. Here's where I do think there are two bets, these two last ones. I think Jessie Pegula at minus 125 is a play over Jasmine Paolini.
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Because Paolini, as we just alluded to, she's gonna have to play Sabalenka in the quarters. Jessie Pegula most likely quarterfinal opponent is Amanda Anisimova.
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Pegula much more likely to beat Anisimova than Paolini is to beat Sabalenka. So I think the bet is Pegula minus 125, and again, at worst you get a refund. Mm-hmm. At worst you get a tie.
38:32
Maddie Keys minus 155 versus Victoria Mboko. I know it's a lot to lay on Maddie Keys, the defending champion here, but Mboko has Sabalenka in the round of 16. So, like, that's her, that's her wall.
38:45
She'd have to pull off a major upset to get past that, whereas Keys has Pegula in the round of 16. She probably loses to Jessie Pegula, quite frankly, in my opinion, but at the very least you get a tie.
38:57
So I do think in the case of both Pegula versus- And the odds wildly different for those matches. Right. Right? And, and that's the thing. And so I think the...
39:04
Because you're dealing with a refund as a possibility here, right? It's to advance further.
39:09
I think Pegula and Keys in those last two respective match-ups are plays because I think the worst that will happen is you will get your money back. Yeah, I like it. I like those. So there's- I like these markets.
39:18
Yeah, it's cool. Thanks for putting them up.
39:20
It also it only took us, like, eight years or, or seven years or whatever to dr- reading DraftKings markets like this for us not to start off everyone staring at the odds and being like, "125 and 110?" Yeah. Huh?
39:32
No, very true. Remember how that [laughs] you, like we, we, like we couldn't get past that point before having a conversation about these? Oh, we're talking money lines with people? Yeah, yeah.
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We're just like, "There's minus 125 and then a minus 110." Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. Still a thing though, people. The numbers guys on Twitter, "Hi Gilly, great show." Thank you.
39:47
"Approximately what time do your picks get updated on the site for tennis tonight? I got them in last night. Uh, and Kelly, is the golf podcast going this time of year?" Yep, started back up last week. Long Shots.
39:58
It's called Long Shots. It will be resuming tomorrow for the Amex as we await Wes Reynolds' triumphant return. It is a triumphant return. Mm-hmm. Kid's, kid's been on, on tour with the Grateful Dead for the last month.
40:11
That's right. So Wednesdays to start. We'll be back on Tuesdays next week. Uh, the tennis picks to answer your question will come up, I mean, this show ends at 10:00.
40:18
I got some stuff to do, but I will have it out by, at the latest 1:00, 2:00 PM Pacific, so 4:00 or 5:00 PM Eastern. Uh, at least a couple hours before the matches begin. And, um, yeah, that's...
40:34
And again, if, if they're in Australia, this is gonna be the routine because I haven't handicapped them quite yet. But by the way, Zach and I were texting last night, "Where's the schedule?"
40:43
You know, 'cause they didn't even put the schedule for the second round yet, right?
40:46
The first round they have the schedule for the first three days, but then once these match-ups are made, you would think that they would produce the second round schedule quicker. But, like, I was... I couldn't...
40:53
I ne- I wanted to handicap some of these last night, but I just didn't know which matches were gonna be, you know, at what time. So anyway, long story short, they should be up within three, four hours from now.
41:06
Here are the plays again, once again, Al, just a recap of the bets from yesterday. There you go. Miami plus eight and a half hits. Indiana win the college football playoff at 10 to one hits.
41:16
Miami to make the college football playoff before that at plus 451 hits. It was a college football scoop fest for young Gilly. We done good.
41:26
Um, the only NFL play I have for this week so far, Broncos plus five and a half versus the Patriots. I, like many, believe that that line, the pendulum on that line swung a bit too far from Bo Nix to Jared Stidham.
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Not saying it should move a lot. It should, but not quite that much. I, I guessed four on guessing lines the other day. Kelly? Yeah, NBA tonight, Rockets laying three and a half.
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Spurs, Rockets under 220, three and a half, still liking it at 220, one and a half. Timberwolves laying 10 and a half, still like it at 12. [laughs] Uh, Kings plus two and a half in the money line.
41:58
You can get a better number than me right now, three and a half's out there. And then the Trail Blazers over 39 and a half wins. NFL for me this week so far, I played the under, uh, in Rams Seahawks.
42:10
I have the Seahawks six to one to win the NFC. I don't know what I'm doing with it. I think I'm just gonna let it ride, uh, at this point.
42:16
And then I did bet that hypothetical look-ahead Rams laying three against the Patriots. I like it. By the way, I should mention about the tennis picks, people are like, "Where?
42:24
Where are you putting out the tennis picks?" Uh, vsin.com/picks for VSiN Pro subscribers. VSiN Pro subscribers. Again, we always talk about how you can subscribe, go to the website.
42:35
Um, but that's how you will get my tennis picks, Zach's tennis picks, everybody's pick. Every host, every guest, every sport, all there at vsin.com/picks.
42:45
Jay Khan, "NHL tonight, Blue Jackets money line versus the Senators. Lightning on the puck line, minus one and a half goals versus the Sharks." Stars, the Dallas Stars in regulation bet, minus 105 versus the Bruins.
42:57
And then the props. Can I interest you in a proposition? Snuggerude. Prop, Prop Jake. Uh, Tampa Bay, Nikita Kucherov, two plus points, minus 120. Edmonton's Connor McDavid, two plus points at minus 130.
43:10
Those two players, he pretty much bets every game out it seems like. Uh, Blue Jackets, Kent Johnson, one plus point and over one and a half shots on goal.
43:18
Minnesota Wild, two plays, Ryan Hartman over two and a half shots on goal at plus 110, and then Vladimir Tarasenko over two and a half shots on goal at plus 165. Big juice on that one.
43:27
Uh, and then the Boston Bruins, Victor Arvidsson over two and a half shots on goal at plus 105. And then your guy, Jimmy Snuggerud of the Blues over two and a half shots on goal at plus 126.
43:38
All of that from Jay Kahn in the National Hockey League tonight. Jim Root, College Hoops, Seton Hall, three road teams. Seton Hall plus nine and a half at St. John's.
43:46
Texas Tech minus two at Baylor tonight, and Michigan State minus 10 and a half at Oregon from one of the three Three Man Weave guys. Drew Dinsick, T-Wolves minus 12 and a half of the Jazz in the NBA tonight.
43:59
Warriors without Jimmy Butler now, who blew out his knee. Warriors minus three and a half versus the Raptors, and the Kings plus three and a half versus the Heat. He's got the Heat rated way low in his NBA rankings.
44:11
Um, and then Jeff Erickson, Evan Ingram over two and a half receptions and Rhamondre Stevenson over 48 and a half rushing yards in the AFC Championship.
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And then the NFC Championship, Kenneth Walker under 86 and a half rushing yards, Kyron Williams over 53 and a half rushing yards from Jeff Erickson from RotoWire. And then Paul Carr's Champions League bets.
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Today, Copenhagen and Napoli over two and a half goals at plus 105. You can get a better bit of juice, better bang for your buck currently.
44:37
And then tomorrow, Barcelona giving up the goal and a half at Slavia Prague, and Bayern Munich over three and a half goals against Saint-Gilloise from Belgium. There you go. Gilloise. Gilloise. Say Gilloise.
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Saint Gill- Union Saint-Gilloise. There you go. Yeah. Three from Paul Carr. We've done all we can do. Enjoy. Prop Points is next with John Hanson from Visa, the sports betting network
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