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Jan 30, 2025
A Numbers Game | January 30, 2025 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | January 30, 2025 | Hour 2
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0:01
The numbers told the story, they always do. You're one of those idiots who believe in analytics? This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander on VSIN.
0:08
Hour number two of a numbers game at VSIN, eSports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, Sirius XM channel 158. Uh, welcoming in a serious audience.
0:21
Uh, now, what are we, over one week old? What is it, two weeks now? I can't even keep track anymore. Uh, almost two weeks. Uh, it's Gil Alexander, Kelly Biddlin, uh, behind the glass. We'll get to Crack here momentarily.
0:30
First of all, we get tweets @BeatingTheBook. I wanna try to get to as many of these as possible. Love you guys, uh, all the feedback here.
0:36
Forest Leamon, "KC and the Sunshine Band, my first concert at the Minnesota State Fair, circa 1979. Keep it coming, love." Yes, one of their hits. Not one of their biggest hits, but it was a big hit.
0:46
Um, but not one of their most recognizable, I would say, to the, uh, the casual. Uh, Touchdown Jesus, "Winner in real time on air. #JesperDeYoung." Yes, we got it done at plus 146.
0:58
James Sott showing me the, uh, the lights going out. The ele- they didn't pay the electric bill, apparently, in Montpellier for that one.
1:04
DJN Southern Gent, "Yo, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to violently disagree [laughs] with Coach Belichick. The Lombardi Trophy ain't broke. Don't try to fix it.
1:12
Also, Saquan can score two touchdowns and not get MVP, but can he win MVP without scoring two touchdown? Odds for each are close." Uh, these are some of the calculations you, uh, you have to make in your head on this.
1:24
Chris Heath, "Dallas Goddard MVP is now 50 to one. I got him at 100 to one, and 125 to one at Caesar's. Thanks, Will Hill." Uh, Corbin, talking about Will Hill the sportsbook, I think.
1:35
Corbin, or maybe Will Hill, our Will Hill. Corbin, "Young, uh, young me," oh, "Young me turns to my mom and goes, 'Mom, what's KC and the Sunshine Band?'
1:43
To go on in life and realize how many damn good songs they have been, uh, they've had through the years. KC at the Super Bowl back in the day would have been fire." Yes, it would have been.
1:52
[laughs] HWKC and the horns, are you kidding me? Brosek1870, "Isn't, uh, is, if Jason's not on tomorrow, how will I know what to bet on Mexican baseball, and if I should back his girl Rose Zhang?
2:04
Also according to FlashScore, the tennis match lost power." Yes, it did.
2:07
New York Mess 16, talking about the, uh, Adam Silver pr- proposal to go from 12-minute to 10-minute quarters in the NBA, says, "If the NBA goes to 10-minute quarters, I think their scoring system should be corrected to what I believe it should have always been, and that is points per minute.
2:21
This metric is also a great way to measure most improved player."
2:24
Scott, I could not agree with you more, that stats will get completely, uh, you know, they'll all g- they'll get all janky if you go from 12 minutes to 10 minutes, so the only way to properly sort of adjust is by the methods that you're just talking about.
2:40
You gotta do, uh, more clever metrics. Larry Mir, "A Bob Seger song just came on, [laughs] and he looks like a homeless individual asking us what the spread is on a game from last night. Just like old times. Miss y'all.
2:52
Crew in the closet at the D." Oh, that's from Larry back in the closet. Oh, okay. Ryan Thompson, "Remember those two Larry Brown interceptions?
2:58
Quarterback wide receiver miscommunications, and Neil O'Donnell threw both right to him." Yes, in the Super Bowl I was referencing where Larry Brown had two picks, not three. You're absolutely right, Ryan.
3:08
Uh, it was just, he threw it right to him, and he, Larry Brown could have fair caught them. ScottyB726, "Barkley MVP feels like Ray Lewis. If the Eagles win, they wanna give it to him."
3:18
And then, uh, Forest Leamon adds, "In regards to a Philly proxy, Saquan could score two touchdowns and they lose, actually a nice hedge against the KC future." So everybody's sort of, uh, contemplating that MVP talk.
3:28
Oh, I lied, one more. David J., "Larry Brown made two picks in Super Bowl 30. This one always got to me. Neil O'Donnell could not have made it any easier for Brown. All he had to do was not drop them.
3:37
Lamest Super Bowl MVP award ever." We'll get to the others coming up, but now, ladies and gentlemen, it's unscripted with the crack man Bill Krackenberger.
3:45
[upbeat music] What up, Billy? Hey. How we doing? I'm good, man. Thanks for doing the, uh, Vegas lifestyle mega pod yesterday.
4:02
Oh, it was great. Appreciate it. We're, it, it was good. We had a like, we had, um, I think I got about seven or eight words in. Uh, hold on. [laughs] Let me see here. Hold on.
4:09
Um- [laughs] Right from the s- right from the beginning. [clears throat] "I think I got seven or eight words in." [laughs] Uh, boom. All right. That's right. And we're off.
4:16
Esther's Kitchen, we didn't, I d- I, I talked about it for a second. We did, we- I went there last week, though. Yes. And I wanna just k- kind of ex- expand on it a little more. I never expected that.
4:26
They make the pasta homemade in-house. Yes. And I, I went by what the waitress said, and she was absolutely spot on. Very hard to get in, though, but great spot down in the Arts District there. Oh my God, I loved it.
4:36
I have brought up Esther's Kitchen many times before. Oh, you have? Okay. Esther's Kitchen Downtown, it is now bigger. They, they moved to a bigger space. Okay. So they, they...
4:44
It's not quite the, they lack a little charm that they used to have, if you're into charm. Right. That's, that's gone by the wayside.
4:50
But the first time I went, uh, it was my buddy, uh, Dan Taborga, and he is a bit of a foodie. And he says to me, he goes, "Gil, I'm just gonna tell you what to order. Just order the spaghetti." Okay.
5:01
And I'm like, "There's this bad, you know, there's this vast menu with all this other stuff." Right. By the way, the bread is glutinous. And so I'm like, "All right, Dan. Fine, I'll do what you tell me."
5:09
Uh, order the spaghetti. It is spectacular. Wow. No, I was really- Yeah... just, just really, really didn't get to talk about that anymore. Yeah. Uh, it's in a cool area, the Arts District.
5:17
They have, like, those boutiques, like, uh, you know, antique, vintage clothing stores and that kind of stuff. Lots of food choices. Uh, really good there.
5:26
But something I didn't get to say on the show yesterday that I wanted to, I wanted to tell you about the different podcasts that I listen to in town for food. So if you guys are- Oh... foodies- Okay...
5:35
the, these are l- uh, local podcasts. I don't know any of them personally, never. I w- I'd love to meet a couple of them, 'cause, like this guy, Danny, that, Food and Travel with Danny the Medic. He's hysterical.
5:44
Danny the Medic.
5:45
Danny the Medic makes me laugh so much, but he's, uh, he, he, you know, he's an Asian guy, wears a hat, and he's so cool about how he doesn't really like a lot of really culturally Asian foods and, but yet he, he doesn't speak, but he yet, he's, he's great.
5:58
He goes all over town. I like him. What's wrong with you, Danny the Medic, that you don't like- Yeah... culturally Asian foods? And he drinks tap water. As he says, "I drink tap water only." I, I don't get that.
6:07
What's wrong, what's wrong with him? Because, like, I, uh, Vegas has really bad water. Yeah. You have to drink bottled water here in Vegas. Do not drink the tap water. Do you remember the old, uh- Studies done on this.
6:14
It's very bad. You remember the old Miller Lite commercials where they, "But don't drink the water." Right, right. Yes, yes. Yeah. Not about Vegas, but still. Uh, Vegas with Shin, S-H-I-N. Fantastic.
6:24
He has great food reviews. Uh, Norma, I don't know if I'm saying her name right, Norma Geli or G-G-G-E-L-I, Let's Eat Vegas. They're the three that I always watch, so- Yeah...
6:34
they're great lifestyle, Vegas lifestyle podcasts of food, foodie. So also I watch Blackjack Apprenticeship. I wanted to say this yesterday. Oh. I just couldn't get to it.
6:43
Blackj- I don't know who the guy is, and I'm sorry I don't know your name. He's a g- he's, he's really good, though.
6:47
He interviews such, he's, he's just so smooth and clean the way he comes across and, um, the shocking amount of c- casino personnel, uh, that will call surveillance based on someone simply getting lucky and- God...
6:59
he talks about- The profiling is so bad... the profiling, how bad. So bad. But he interviews great guests, and I, I really like him.
7:05
Um- So that's just some of the things I didn't g- didn't get to mention yesterday, including with the, you know, that, that 888 Japanese barbecue I mentioned.
7:12
Don't confuse that with the 888 Korean barbecue, which is literally a quarter of a mile away. The Japanese one, it's on the corner of Decatur and, uh, Spring Mountain. Cannot get in though.
7:23
You have to go on y- don't just go and show up. You have to go on their, uh, their waiting list, which is on, uh, Yelp, which closes around 5:00 for the night. [laughs] That's how, some, that's how packed they- Wow.
7:35
They're open till 1:00 AM, by the way. Yeah. Which I love a late night spot where... And, and it, and it's all you can eat Japanese barbecue.
7:41
It's a little bit, quality's a little bit, little bit better, so I don't know anyone. I can't, I, by the way, doesn't help me. I can't get in any quicker- [laughs]...
7:46
giving 'em a plug, but, um- Well, or you could listen to the 14th annual Vegas Lifestyle pod of Beating the Book and, and get this and more restaurant recommendations- Yes... that we did.
7:55
Um, but yes, I mean, you're making me hungry, man. I, I wanna eat now. But that, that Spring Mountain you mentioned, uh, when people come into town, right, they're Strip focused, or for our audience, they go to Circa.
8:07
That's kind of the list. But every once in a while, someone's adventurous enough to stray, and Spring Mountain Road is probably the greatest hidden gem, not even hidden.
8:17
It's the greatest gem of Vegas because there is so much great food up and down Spring Mountain. There is. It's just incredible. There is. Yeah. You mentioned some that I wrote down. I was like, wow. Yeah.
8:27
Gil has some really g- I, I- Oh, yeah... I wrote 'em down on my list. I was like, I gotta go. I don't wanna spoil. Let people go do the thing. Yeah. But you, you mentioned some that I wrote down that were fantastic.
8:34
Beating the Book, 14th annual Vegas lifestyle. Can you believe we do have 14 years of it? Wow. 14 years. Can you believe I was never invited on it? [laughs] Yeah. 14 years.
8:42
And then when you finally did, you got seven or eight words in. I got, I got a few words in. You did. [laughs] Um, I like, I tell you, I've never met Mark Meltzer- Yes... but I liked, I liked him. I, I- Oh, he's great...
8:51
I like, I like he, he knows his stuff. He does. Yeah. Absolutely. Meltzer- Yeah, he's a great follow on Twitter... @MeltzVegas. And then of course Fez. Fez, you know, he's out every day.
8:58
Well, see the, and the Fez part of it, again, we talked- Right... about it yesterday on the show. Yeah. Fez is there to, like, let you know how you can, like- Get free stuff... free stuff. Yeah.
9:06
That's, uh, it was just amazing. Yeah, getting V- Vegas bargains and stuff. Yeah. People love that kind of stuff. Yeah. You know?
9:10
The only, again, the only thing as a host that I have to kind of balance is what is the percentage of the audience listening to that podcast that is, A, from out of town? Probably 95%, right? Right.
9:22
And then of that 95%, what percentage is willing to make the extra effort to capitalize on what Fez's great advice is, but requires... Like, again, I always use my buddies from DC.
9:35
If I say to them, if I'm like, "Hey, guys, you should do this," after a while they're gonna be like, "Okay, shut up, Gil. We're just gonna go drink and play blackjack." Right? Right. Right, right.
9:42
So their, their, their attention span for such things is limited to about six seconds. Yeah. And I think that represents most people. You're right. You're absolutely right. Yeah.
9:51
And when you, when you get here, too, you always, like y- you have plans. When you're home, every day you're jonesing. Like I used, when, before I lived here 20-some years ago- Oh, man...
10:00
I used to watch Vegas Vacation with Chevy Chase over and over- Just to get you pumped? [laughs] Just to get me pumped when he's out of the car looking with the kid and the, you know. And, and that, and so you have plans.
10:07
I'm gonna do this, this, this, this, this, this on the second day, this on the third day. By the time the second day comes, all the plans are just kaput- Yeah... because you've blown 1,500 playing, uh, craps.
10:16
[laughs] Did you used to get that feeling, before I lived here, too, and, and well before I came to Vegas hundreds of times, but I remember when the first, you know, 20 times I came, did you just get that feeling that when the plane landed, you could not wait?
10:28
Of course. God, you're like, "Oh- Of course... get off the plane. I can't wait to get out of here." Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Oh. When you're leaving. No, no, I'm saying when I, I can't wait to- Oh, wait to get out and home...
10:35
get out of this plane- Right... so I can go to the casino. Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah. Right.
10:38
So real quick before we go to break, you know, I, I, I, I read some of the comments and stuff, and I try to get back to people, especially on my podcast that I do with John Orlando and Randy McKay.
10:46
I get back to people 'cause I feel they're taking their time to respond. Yeah. I get back to them. You have one of your geniuses that followed you guys on the show that this is his takeaway from the show.
10:54
We've so fortified, packed with information last week and the week before. He said, "I bet you that guy with the hat is bald underneath the hat." That's your takeaway from the show? [laughs] My friend, congratulations.
11:08
You get, not the Cadillac, you get the box of steak knives. [laughs] That's second prize for knowing that you're the Amazing Kreskin times two. Kreskin.
11:15
[laughs] You get the ba- the literally the box of steak knives you get. Wow. That's his takeaway from the show. Yeah. Imagine all the stuff that you... People can't help themselves under anonymity.
11:23
They d- they have such miserable lives- Oh, the, the-... they just wanna take it out on others... courage is- That's the takeaway... the courage of anonymity. Wow. Wow, what a genius.
11:30
We're all very aware of the courage of anonymity. Yeah, come say it to his face. [laughs] That's right. Um, Kres- a Kreskin reference, by the way. You can see that guy. Amazing Kreskin.
11:38
Uh, Crackman, Bill Krackenberger, @BillCrackman with a K on Twitter, uh, hosts, along with John Orlando, of Wise Cracks, that's his podcast. More with Bill on the other side.
11:47
It's a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network. [upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
12:01
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12:11
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12:20
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12:27
Torch D, @TorchD15, "Caught Saquon to, uh, win Super Bowl MVP at plus 850 on DraftKings before the championship games kicked off. I dropped a hammer on it, and by hammer, I mean $17.63 [laughs] - Very nice of him...
12:42
because DraftKings limits all my bets." There you go. Wow. Uh- That seems like, 850? The, it, that's- Before last week. That's still a great price before last week. Yeah.
12:51
Bruce Dobing, "Can you tell from decades in press boxes full of people working on deadline there is little time for reflection on MVP and the confusion?
12:58
Most voting is a reflex by folks waiting for the elevator down to dressing rooms, so don't overthink." That, by the way, is great advice when betting on Super Bowl MVP. It really is true.
13:10
They're guys with votes and girls with votes... just waiting on an elevator to get out of the press box and we're like, "Ah, Mahomes."
13:17
It's really, that's the problem with Super Bowl MVP, again, vis-a-vis, uh, season-long awards. String Fellow Hawk, our buddy who we met outside the studio here a few, uh- Oh, yeah... months back. Good guy.
13:26
"Hi, fellas, great Megapod. Going to save all your food and casino recommendations when I'm in Vegas. I'm out on business and I don't have time to tour the city and see the local spots. New York Mess 16.
13:36
Outside of the obvious three, A.J. Brown for MVP for me. A lot of talk about him this year, and he has the talent to make the one-on-one plays, break a tackle for a long run, score multiple touchdowns.
13:46
He can make Hurts's yardage look better with his great catches and his yak. James Fessler. Give me Chiefs linebacker Nick Bolton at plus 50,000." What is that? 5,000 to one for MVP in a low scoring [laughs] game.
13:59
Good candidate for 10 tackles, a sack, a forced fumble, fumble recovered, tipped interception in that kind of game. He actually had a touchdown last Philadelphia, KC Super Bowl.
14:08
Carloftus at, uh, 150 to 1, another good defensive record candidate. James Fessler, let me tell you something, if Nick Bolton gets MVP, I'm remembering you. The numbers, guys.
14:17
I've been to Vegas three times in the last 20 years, so not an expert. L- let me say this, uh, Gil and Bill, I hate having to scramble to find food after midnight. Herbs and Rye, get a nice steak at 4:00 AM." Oh, yeah.
14:27
That's a Vegas hack. Oh, yeah. The only thing I would say, though, is turn up the lights at Herbs and Rye. I wanna see my steak. I like dark restaurants, though. Yeah, but- I do...
14:35
but pitch black- It's really, it's really bla- it's really dark there. Yeah. Yeah, no, I, I like Herbs and Rye. I, I feel like I'm 700 years old when I'm in there. I'm like, "Could you turn on the lights a little bit?"
14:44
I feel like- You know, that used to be a restaurant called The Venetian, um- Hmm... you know, 100 years ago. No, you know, like, literally, uh, 40, 50 years ago. That was a place, like, all the mob guys went. Yeah.
14:54
Sinatra was in that building many times. And, uh- Yeah... you know, I had Sinatra's assistant on my show that worked for him for 16 years, so. They also have a steak happy hour. Yeah.
15:03
It's, what's it, 5:00 to s- 5:00 to 6:00... 5:00 to 6:00, and then midnight to close. Yes. So, in other words- Half price steaks... half price steaks. Yeah. Just substitute liquor for steaks.
15:11
I have to admit, I'm, I'm an idiot. I never get there for that. I don't either. I, I just- Yeah... uh, I'm not lining up outside in the cold for- No... to save 16 bucks. Well- Yeah...
15:19
it's not 16, but I mean, you know, it, it, it is what it is. That's funny, I just met someone outside here, and he's like, "Oh, well, guys, you, you forgot to mention the, the Circus Circus Steakhouse yesterday."
15:29
He's right. Yeah. That's a very good steakhouse. You can go to the bar, like he's a s- um, a single guy, he's like, or, or he's here alone, he said, um, he was wondering which one to go to. He's gonna go to the bar.
15:39
I said it's a great place to go. You can go to the Circus Circus Steakhouse, go to the bar, and watch them make your steak in front of you. It's great, right on the grill. Oh, I love that. It's really a great spot. Yeah.
15:47
Uh, the steakhouse, real- really good. So. The, the gem inside of Circus Circus, you would say? I was... Yeah, more than that. Whatever the more- [laughs]... whatever the strongest, uh, you could say, that's the gem.
15:58
Just be careful, you know, in there. Whatever, whatever the strongest head-on- It's better than Boulder Highway-... swivel... but it's, um- Yeah... yeah. It's, it's, it's, uh, interesting.
16:05
Um- What did you say you wanted? You wanted to bring up something. Oh, just so much stuff. Jesus. All right, let's just go. Yeah. Have this, has this been talked about at all on this network?
16:14
Not only this show, on this network, the BetChris SportsBook? Oh, I have not brought it up yet, but I know what you're talking about. I don't think anyone else probably even did either. So you go ahead.
16:24
You, you brought it up. BetChris. Yes. That's right. Bookmaker, in other words. BetChris. Listen, it's not Bookmaker. That's a separate company. Nothing to do with BetChris. [laughs] They still- BetChris- Yeah...
16:33
I think they closed to the US in 2007 or 8, whenever that Black Friday was, or Black... Whatever, they, they closed to the US. Yes, many have tried. The Bodog brand, um, which is now Bovada. Yeah. The Five Dimes brand.
16:49
Wow, Bodog. Remember that? Tony. Yeah. Uh, they've all tried. Tony [laughs] that's- Uh, let, let me be blunt. [laughs] Pinnacle has tried. Yeah. They've all tried to get legal in the United States.
16:59
BetChris has succe- succeeded. Yeah. BetChris opened in Arizona. Two days ago I was scheduled to go make the first bet there- Really?... across the border, and go make the first bet. They, they contacted you?
17:10
And it went down, the, the site went do- uh, the regulators, it wasn't, everything wasn't... It was supposed to be set for noon. I went with Vegas Horse Pulls, great guy. Uh, he runs Spank Odds for Spanky. Mm-hmm.
17:21
And we were set. We went, went and had breakfast, and then we were going across the border, and we were told, "Don't cross the border." Um, by the way, that's also being said in a lot of different circles now.
17:30
But this was, this is, this one, don't cross the border, uh, and to go to Arizona to make this bet until yesterday, and I couldn't do it. I chose to do it yesterday.
17:38
So Vegas Horse Pulls went with, and Adam Bjorn, B- J- B-J-O-R-N too. Mm-hmm. By Adam Bjorn, uh- Oh, was that BetBash? They, they, they recorded- The stapled BetBash... they recorded it. Yeah. Made their first bet. Okay.
17:50
BetChris legal in the United States. It's amazing. I have to be real blunt. It's amazing. I, it's, it's the, it's the most craziest word that I can come up with. Uh, let's use amazing. Yeah.
18:02
But it's amazing to the tenfold that this happened. It's amazing. Th- this is unbelievable. Um, they also have, uh, Prime SportsBook. Um, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn. I think that, that they're together or...
18:15
But it's Prime SportsBook also. Uh, and you'll notice it's the same line as, as BetChris. But Bookmaker and BetChris no longer together is what you're saying? Bookmaker and BetChris, separate companies.
18:24
Separate companies. Oh, they would, I don't, they would never, I don't think they'd never legalize it then, but- No, I'm saying weren't, weren't they the same back in the day? Am I making that up?
18:32
I don't know if I'm allowed to say. Oh, okay. [laughs] I was... Never mind. [laughs] Maybe I've strayed into an area I shouldn't. But, no, 'cause they, they listen to the show- Yeah... by the way. Oh, I know they do.
18:39
I'm gonna tell you right now. I know they do. They listen to the show- I know... in the office- Yeah... in faraway places, so. Yeah, no, I know, because with the- And we're giving them a good plug here.
18:47
We're not saying nothing bad. Yeah. I am, I'm all for BetChris being in the United States. I'm all for Pinnacle being in the United States. Yeah, we are.
18:54
I'm all for places that take your bets and, you know, move on action and take g- sizable bets and, uh...
19:01
But then again, I'm all for the sites that are, uh, believe it or not, I'm all for the Fanduels, DraftKings, BetMGM, Caesars too, because they take so many different type of bets, they can't get those lines right.
19:13
So if you don't let me bet- I'm still gonna bet, don't worry. But, yeah, I, I, so I'm all for the, the different variety of bets, too.
19:20
Maybe BetChris offers a, you know, not as many prop bets or something, but however, if you wanna bet a lot of money, BetChris is your place.
19:27
And generally speaking, what, what you, why you're characterizing it as a, as amazing or whatever word you wanna use, is because the history of this was there was a moment in time where we would nev- this would never have happened.
19:38
Oh, God. [laughs] Never. Like a- I would have bet a large amount of money- Yes... this would never happen. Yeah. Yeah. Um- It's, it's big news in the industry. People are- My, it is, it is big news...
19:45
I, I told someone that's offshore about this, and they told me, "You're crazy." I said, "Listen, you wait for the next couple week." I knew about it for the last couple months. Yeah. I said, "You wait and see."
19:56
He goes, "Bill, you've heard wrong. Something's wrong. There's no way they're using the BetChris name." I said, "They're using BetChris. Yes, they are."
20:02
And, uh, you know, it took a l- a lot, I guess, um, to, to do this, but, and, uh, I hope they go nationwide. I hope they, I hope they, I hope there is, you know...
20:11
The more competition, the better it is for guys like me, and I'll be blunt, for guys like you. Yes. It's better for both of us. It's better to have- Yes... t- tennis odds at another spot. Of course.
20:20
It's better to have... So the more books- Uh-... the better for guys like us... dude, I tried to bet a Kentucky Derby horse yesterday at Caesars. Right. All right. They got, they got a million horses, right?
20:32
The Derby's not till May. What are we? January. Derby's not till May. So, you know, like Johnny Avello used to do this at the Wynn. So there's a million horses up there that you can bet on.
20:41
In other words, these horses, no matter who you bet on, no matter which horse you bet on, is unlikely to win, and if you try to bet it on the app, right? I put like, it, it was like, uh, let's try $100.
20:52
Uh, let's try $75. Uh, let's try $50. I'm sorry, your stake is too high. Sick. Uh, well, what are we doing? And, and what Gil's talking about, it's an action bet, that there's 100 horses listed for- I'm giving you $50...
21:04
15 horse... Right. Yeah. For a 15-horse field. By the way, the- Or 20. I mean-... the flip side of that is, right, let's say they took your $50 bet. Right. And that horse somehow, at the ridiculous odds, ends up winning.
21:18
You're gonna be more angry at the win, at the win, W-I-N, you're gonna be more angry by the fact that you won it at a limited bet to $50- Definitely...
21:28
than you would've been if you weren't, you know, like, [laughs] it's just, it's like they make it so aggravating.
21:33
It's like, oh, 'cause if you win at 50, oh, I only won $2,000 on this long shot horse, where I should have won so much more on. Definitely. So anyway, you're absolutely right. Yeah, we need that.
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Competition begets innovation. By the way, yesterday on The Wife Star, I can't, me, uh, you, me, and Fez, none of us knew, someone's gonna answer us now- Yes... if BetFred is still booking at the Hard Rock.
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Well, Hard Rock, I just said Hard Rock. Jesus. Yeah, Virgin. Yeah. At Virgin. Yeah.
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Now, I know they're going to be thrown out, but they were open for a little while, but I don't think they ever got an app, but are they booking at the counter there?
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Which, by the way, total failure since Hard Rock closed. Oh, complete failure. Total f- that, that was, Gil and I met there. Yeah. That's how we know each other, so. Yeah.
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Um, but yeah, I, I don't know even if that w- you know, we need another sportsbook in there, but I'm sure they took Mickey Mouse limits, too.
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They g- and we, by the way, we knew it was gonna be a failure from the day they had their quote-unquote opening. Right. It was just, it fell flat.
22:23
And the other thing we didn't know is, again, and that's why Melcher was so great on the podcast, I live right across the street from the Paris Hotel. I had no idea they had a new sportsbook down there.
22:31
Oh, wasn't that great? Yeah, we didn't know that. I didn't know, either. That's John Avello's old sportsbook there. Yeah. Uh, although, and I didn't realize it w- it was all done over, and it's nice now. Yeah. Yeah.
22:38
Good to know. Um, take a, take a peek at it. Maybe it's a nice place. Uh, we'll come back more Crackman, Bill Krackomberger, unscripted, exclusively right here on The Numbers Game at VSIN, the sports betting network.
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24:03
Thanks for the six, seven words crack [laughs] on the podcast." Uh, Cut is good. Yes, Cut is very good. That's in the Venetian- Bust out joint... just outside of the Venetian, but it is a bust out joint.
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Todd- Most expensive in town... Todd Bubba Horowitz, "The flight to Vegas, the loudest, happiest flight with excitement. The flight home, quiet with depressed people. Crack, you got eight words yesterday.
24:19
You guys are great. Love the show." Thank you, Todd. Oh, awesome. Uh, Charlie D, "USA number one. Crackman Thursdays," just with an exclamation point. All right.
24:26
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24:37
Best value for the dollar." We actually did mention Ellis Island- Yes... on the podcast yesterday. Yesterday. Much to, uh, some of our surprise. Pat Monteforte, "To this day, Bookmaker still has the best odds."
24:47
Well, that depends. Um, Pat Monteforte also says, "The old home away from home, the Hard Rock on Paradise, was indeed paradise." Yeah, that was great. Oh, don't get me started, man. Party's over. Party is way over.
24:58
They may be going back, though, because now Mohegan Sun's out of there in March. Yeah. So I, I know m- my buddy there who's a big, big d- player development guy, he said, "Listen, Mohegan Sun's out of here in March.
25:08
Maybe we could start doing..." They used to give me a good deal. Yeah. Used to go in, you know, they used to buy my business. But the Hard Rock, just for clarification's sake, is going to be where the Mirage used to be.
25:15
That's right. Um, and again, that big iconic guitar might be the most ico- you know, might, might be the most iconic thing on the strip five years from now. Yep. Uh, Chris of St. Barts, "Lounge talk of Cook's passing."
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Cookie Jar. Oh, right. Yep Lounge talk of Cookie's, uh, passing last week. "Remember the sunspots at the Omaha Lounge at the Plaza in the '90s? Vegas- Wow, before me... never the same now." I've never been there. Wow.
25:38
Damn. Um- Thank you, Chris... always appreciate the, uh, feedback. Um, yeah, the...
25:43
Listen, I, I was mentioning off-air too about the, the, uh, you know, how I know they were listening, the offshore folks, is because when I was on tennis heater in 2021, like a really big hardcore heater- Right...
25:53
when I would give the picks on air- Yeah... and I would go to my account, they would pull them down briefly before putting them back up. Oh, wow. Okay. So that's, that's how I knew that. Yeah.
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You know, I have to be real blunt, I don't like that sportsbooks pull the lines down,
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uh, when, when you get, when you're, you know, if something's being bet that's hot, you just pull the lines down and, "Oh, let me just wait until the line settles back down." Yeah. You know?
26:17
Well, you know, when we had Razz ver- you know, that was just me a moment in time, but, like, let's take a big one like Right Angle Sports or Dr. Bob.
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When Right- when Right Angle Sports would come on this show and they would release, it was fascinating to see how some books did that and some books did not. Yeah. Right?
26:34
Some books would just move with the money that they were getting, right? 'Cause people would tail those picks, in other words. Um, but then some, like you're alluding to, would just take them down. Pisses me off.
26:45
And then they would repost them at a brand new- A- and af-... number... after. Yeah. After the, after the, the line's ironed out. That's right. You know, close your door. That's right. I'll never take bets then. Yeah.
26:54
You know, you know, sell popcorn. Um- [laughs] David Payne Purdum- Yes, sir... put out a tweet, "Nevada sportsbooks lost a net 2.1 million on football in December.
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It's the first month during the NFL's regular season that the books have suffered a net loss on football since November of 2012.
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Overall, the state sportsbooks won a net 15 million in December, a 75% year-over-year decrease for the month." Um, reading David's tweet from this morning, I, I, I just, they lost money?
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Parlays and everything, uh, everything that ha- That's how much, that's how many favorites won. Yeah, but we, we know that because remember all the survi- no one got knocked out of survivor, remember?
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Just, like- Right... they kept going on. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of those were covers as well.
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Richard Shutz, who was a giant executive back then, real good guy, good follow, "Back in the day, we had losing periods.
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I was always somewhat cool with it because there was worse situations than having someone with money in their pocket feeling smart and lucky. We played a long-term game." Richard, we miss you in the industry.
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We miss that kind of mentality, these guys with the, the fancy degrees upstairs that know nothing about gambling, the, you know, in the, in the perches of the decision-making that don't know what's going on, the pulse of the casino floor, as I always say.
28:12
Great, great tweet, and, uh, both of you guys, excellent. Yeah. It, it's, as we have, as you and I have talked about many times,
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when we sat here, you and I, when, uh, PASPA was ruled unconstitutional in May of 2018, we couldn't have possibly imagined. We could've guessed, right? Maybe we were gonna be right or maybe we were wrong.
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I, I think we would've been wrong about just how this has gone since. And one of the big things that I was talking about, and I alluded to it a little earlier, is the profiling part of it, right?
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Because that's hand-in-hand with what you were just talking about, which is these, these books that are now beholden to stockholders, right? These public companies- Right...
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are so beholden to their, to their stock price, um, that
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the very first sign, again, if somebody comes in for the first week and they get lucky on some, you know, 18 NFL parlay, those books who do not have a background, like the offshore people know exactly how to profile people, but tho- these books who are beholden to their stock, uh, you know, prices, to their shareholders, they will immediately, "Oh, we gotta ban that guy.
29:15
He's great." No, he just got lucky, right? And so that's the biggest- That's right... that's the biggest single, I think, disconnect in all of it. But we understand where it's coming from, right?
29:25
'Cause that's all they care about is, "Oh, wait, you be- you're betting again," the NBA drafting. "Oh, you're trying to bet 50 to 1 on some NBA draft? Oh, let's change that to 25 to 1 before we take your bet."
29:34
Like, dude, it's gonna lose. Right. What are you doing? Right. You, you can't do this. But they're too big to care. Let's talk some NFL. Let's talk this final game. We're at the end of the season already.
29:44
I'm, I'll tell you right now, I'm gonna miss the NFL. Yes, me too. I'm gonna miss the NFL. Me too. I really am. I, I, I love talking about it every week.
29:51
Um, I have to tell you, so Sunday night games, the two games get over a- and I'm listening to a podcast that night on S- which I normally don't listen to too many podcasts that I can't learn from, and this, this, to my point, these idiots on CBS, they had a podcast at the end of the night saying, "Oh my God," this, big names too, "This is not the game America wanted.
30:10
This is not, we don't wanna see Kansas City again." I couldn't believe we're talking like this. [laughs] I get it. Kansas City's there again. I get it. Buffalo's a very good team, very likable team. I like Josh Allen.
30:20
I like Buffalo. They had their chance. Uh, they had their chance. Like, so, i- it's like, but they were just so like, "I cannot believe, uh, you know, uh, that these, uh, again, we get Kansas City.
30:32
This is not what America wanted." What's he talking about? W- what, what, what are you, you want the Texans in? Uh, who, who do you want it? Like- [laughs]...
30:38
this is the, these are the two best teams playing each other, you know, so-called best teams.
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I understand that there was some, and, you know, everyone was playing- Tell, tell me you don't bet without telling me you don't bet. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's perfect. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Yeah.
30:50
Uh, I, I know there was penalties, uh, that, that were maybe not called right, and there was things that I, I understand, and, you know, but there was also penalties the other way. There was a face mask.
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There was, there was also penalties they, they missed.
31:02
The, how about the inbounds at the end of the game when the, when there was, they, you know, they, they said, "Oh, he went out of bounds," like they gave Buffalo more time. Like, there was, there was things both ways.
31:09
Like, I just can't believe that it, I heard it all on, on, on many shows this week- Mainstream, yeah... if, no, but how about this?
31:19
If the referees are calling bad games and the, they think the games are fixed, I hate even saying that word, you think that, just bet on Kansas City. Yeah, if it's so fixed. Just make the bets. That's right.
31:30
Are you looking to complain so bad- That's right... that you wanna be a victim in a broken down Valise case, that you're looking to get, looking to... [laughs] You know what I mean? I mean- Valise case. Wow, yeah.
31:38
No, I mean, what, what, what are you doing here? I mean, um, and you know, even during the game though, some of the announcers are so bad. I can't believe these big names, I think it was Tony Romo or- Oh, man.
31:48
Are you kidding me? He, he, someone said there was a penalty. It might have been Nance, I don't know. And whoever it was, they said there was a penalty when there wasn't, at the biggest time in the game.
31:56
Well, oh yeah, so- Right? On fourth down or whatever, it's like, "Uh, penalty"... yeah, if you, on Mondays- There was not even a penalty...
32:01
on Mondays, we do guessing lines, and much of that is, like, you know, not much of it, but part of it is busting on announcers.
32:07
And, and what you're referring to is, again, I said, you know, somebody was in Nance's ear, Jim Nance's ear. Oh, it was Nance. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Someone was in his ear- Yeah... saying, "There's a flag."
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This is on the big fourth and five play. Right. Right. Which really was the deciding play of the game. Oh, God. Um, and, and so Nance had to go with it.
32:23
I think there's a flag, and they actually put flag, they actually put the graphic above the screen. They did.
32:27
Someone el- someone on Twitter told me that, to be fair, on the radio broadcast, they thought there was a flag on the ground, too. Really? Which I didn't, I don't think, I don't know. I shouldn't blame Nance.
32:37
You're right, someone's in his ear. Someone is in his ear. Yeah. So he, I don't, you know- Holtzneck native, yeah... but you're right. Yeah. But, but, and then the Romo thing.
32:42
I mean, Romo was [laughs] on the fourth and five, he's like, "I think we should go for, I think they should go for it here, Jim." He, he said the words, "Big decision time coming up." That's right. [laughs] I know.
32:51
Does this guy get, like, 17 million a year? He, wasn't he, like, one of the best announcers, they say? He's so good. He was great when he started. Did you lose your common sense? He was great when it started.
32:58
I, I, yeah, all, all, it was big decision time. Oh, wow. Yeah. Another genius. The, but your point before about how, like, there is a narrative. People, oh, it's not the matchup they wanna see.
33:05
Listen, I'm a lifelong Washington fan. If there's anybody who, quote, unquote, "wanted to see something else," it would be a Washington fan. But I have no time for that kind of narrative. Philly won fair and square.
33:16
Sorry, Bills fans, but Kansas City, to me, won fair and square as well. This is the matchup, uh, you know, I know it's the second time in three years. Networks want it.
33:24
These are the two teams that they, that deserve to be there. I think networks want it. Like, according to these- Well... big names, it, and I think the networks want this big game, though, for the free agency.
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And I don't, I don't understand the Chiefs fatigue thing, either. They're great. Yeah. They're historically great. Let's revel in it while it's happening. You'll miss it one day.
33:40
More with the Crack Man on the other side. This is Numbers Game at VSIN, the sports betting network. [upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSIN, the sports betting network.
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Back on a Numbers Game live from Circa Resort Casino, downtown Las Vegas. Gil Alexander, Bill Krackenberger, uh, as is the case each and every Thursday, unscripted with the Crack Man, Bill Krackenberger.
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@BillCrackMan with a K. Wise Crack's the name of his podcast. Let me just read a few more tweets. We get tweets that beat you to the book. GSlice7, "Many thanks, Gil, for your efforts.
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This is your 14th annual Las Vegas Lifestyle Show. I moved to Ba- I moved to Vegas 15 years ago, pre-legalization period. Early podcasts felt like being part of a cool underground revolution, and I'll never forget it.
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I'm sure you remember the characters and the times." Uh, Ace, Vegas runner, Marco D'Angelo, uh, we used to have a great time doing that podcast. Was, was awesome.
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I think we did it together for eight years, I wanna say, uh, the three of us. Scott C... Thank you so much, by the way, GSlice. That was very nice of you, that tweet.
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Scott C., uh, "When a book takes a number down, aren't they missing out on a chance to create two-way action? Doesn't it behoove the bookmaker to move the line to get action on the, quote, unquote, 'wrong side?'"
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Chance Copperpot, "Bill, you echo what I've thought for many moons. If it's so rigged, why are you not betting the rigged side?" They can never answer that question. My man. That's right, 'cause it checkmates them. Yeah.
35:12
You, uh, you have a bet here that you wanted to share. Yeah, Super Bowl 59. Oh, yeah. I think he's gonna put it up with the, right, with the- Oh, we're gonna do, we're gonna do like the best bets? Yeah.
35:18
You guys wanna- I think he's- You guys wanna do G Bank best bets, yeah? No? Yes? G Bank, great credit card. G Bank, the official bank of VSIN with your best bets of the day. Look, Crack, you're producing.
35:26
You're, like, producing the show at this point. That's fine. You're like, "No, Gil, why don't you do this first?" Um- Sorry. Again, no, no, it's great.
35:32
Uh, my bets again here, Chiefs, uh, over the Eagles in Super Bowl 59. I bet it immediately on Sunday night. Now, maybe I'll get the worst of it, but it was an impulse bet for me.
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Uh, we have, uh, two tennis matches that we gave at the beginning of the show. We won on Jesper De Jong. Again, for VSIN subscribers at vsin.com/picks, it pays to be a subscriber.
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We hit a plus 146 dog in straight sets earlier this morning. Mattia Bellucci just gagged the first set, though, against, uh, Alexander Kovacevic, so hopefully we can get back in that match.
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And then Nikoloz Basilashvili as a dog against Arthur Rinderknech a little later on. Those are my plays. Uh, Kelly Byeland, does he have any plays? Yes, he does.
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He's on the, uh, oh, these are his two Super Bowl 59 props. He's on Kareem Hunt again, over 42 and a half r- rushing yards. Isaiah Pacheco, longest rush under eight and a half yards.
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By the way, I wanna go back again to the other Super Bowl plays I have. First bet, um, for, for the, uh, first song of the halftime show again tomorrow with Kendrick Lamar. Um,
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I had one sort of safe play and one sort of long shot play. I wanna include those again. Not Like Us at two to one was my safe play. Swimming Pools, drank, was my long shot play at seven to one.
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And then, uh, on the national anthem, in case you missed it earlier this morning, I am on the under, under 205 seconds, Jon Batiste on the length of the national anthem, first word to last word.
36:51
Zach Cohen came on the show today. He's on the Jazz plus the points in the NBA. He's always giving us a, uh, a bad team to back. That's kind of been his thing lately. Jazz plus seven and a half.
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And then he's got a couple Dallas Goedert props. Over 47 and a half receiving yards for the Eagles.
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Dallas Goedert eight to one to lead the game in receiving yards from Zach, uh, a little later, later, earlier on in the show. And then Crack, here, here we go. Shortest touchdown under one and a half yards minus 165.
37:20
We'll give you- I found 155 yesterday, but- Okay Uh, I see BetMGM 175, but now a lot of these don't come up yet, Bill. Before, before we jump into that- Go ahead... let me just- Go ahead...
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Sorry. Listen, I'm a walking, talking ad for that gbank card. Yes, you are. I mean, how can you not have 2% back, plus you get $250- Mm-hmm... up front? I'm all about positive EV. There you go.
38:07
Um, yeah, anyway, so going to, uh- Under one-and-a-half yard touchdown... well, not a lot of the sportsbooks have them up yet too.
38:16
Now, you have to understand, tonight is the night at Westgate that they come up with the lottery line, which by the way, over the years has shrunk. Used to be 100 people in line.
38:24
Last year there was 16, 17 of us, I think, last year, um, lined up to get the, the props. You know, you can only line up, you get... I don't even remember if it's two or three. I think you get three bets.
38:36
Um, and then you have to go back to the line and do it again. Um, but last night I was at the South Point having dinner, um, big surprise, and
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y- I was shocked that they had so many different lines up, so many different prop lines. Yes.
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As you can see here, first round of props, I p- even put one on Twitter yesterday, which, you know, it, it, it, uh, I'm not gonna...
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You, you, unless you find it, I don't know if you're gonna find this particular line, but I, I, I only put one ticket on Twitter. I, I, I bet, I bet, uh, almost 20,000 last night over there.
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So- Shout out to my mishpocha, Chrissy Andrews- Yeah. No... Vin- Vinnie Maliulo, and Jimmy Vaccaro. Yeah. How many different Eagles will have a rush attempt? They had four, which I didn't see any fours.
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I've seen, seen three and a halves at a lot of books, uh, three and a half over, but, uh, I went under four minus $1.10, I went under four minus $1.25, and I went under four again minus $1.40 for max bets. I know that...
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But listen, they have a real fair chance of beating me. I wasn't stealing. They had six last game.
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But I think this situation here, the, the four was a real good number, so I'm interested to see if anyone else puts up a- That was a, that was a numbers play for you... it was a numbers play. Picking up the four. Yeah.
39:50
It was a numbers play. I also bet some other things like, you know, like punts. You know, they had seven and a half on punts. Uh, you know, I, I betted a few times, uh, you know- Ooh...
39:59
uh, under punts, but I, I can't lay a dollar- They have it at seven and a half?... more than $1.80, but- Ooh...
40:04
yeah, under seven and a half punts, uh, minus $1.50, $1.6- uh, m- I'm sorry, minus $1.65 it was, and then I played minus $1.80 too, so I'm just giving a couple out in case any other of the books- Yeah...
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put them up there. Seven and a half. Wow. Seven and a half punts. Yeah. Wow. Okay. South Point had them up. Yeah, they, and they, they... I was shocked to see. Hey. I didn't th- for some reason my brain wasn't working.
40:26
I went to dinner, someone texts me, "South Point has a l- lot of different props up." And I was like, "Wait, no one has props up yet. Only Westgate puts them up, and then everyone starts putting them up."
40:34
Well, remember- That's not the way it works. I w- That's how it used to be... I was wrong. Yes. No, I was wrong. Like, like I don't... Like, right now do they, do they have props behind us? I don't, I don't...
40:41
I would say no. Well, remember, uh, so the Westgate is, is known for this, right? The Westgate is the, uh- The, the meeting... they were sort of the, the, the shop that you could always count on.
40:50
They would set it up on a Tuesday night or a Thursday night, whatever it was, at this time, and the process that you just described.
40:55
You could make three bets, then you gotta go to the back of the line, you have a limit, and that kind of thing. But I, I don't know.
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It's like even in the VSIN era, if I can call it that, since about 2017, 2018, remember that the Westgate was still locked into whatever night they were gonna do it, and then it would be word of mouth, right?
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"Oh, William Hill just opened it," and you would drive to William Hill. This was like pre-apps.
41:17
So you would drive to a William Hill shop, and then you would hear, "Wait a minute, I think the South Point is about to open it," and William Hill doesn't have it open, you drive there.
41:23
Like, there was a couple years in there where you had to do all that, and W- and the Westgate wasn't necessarily the first one. But shout out to, again, to Chrissy, Vinnie- Yeah...
41:31
and Jimmy, uh, over at the South Point- Yeah... for doing that. I, I gotta tell you. Taking a stand. So I, I seen Jimmy the other day. Yeah. I was recording in the sportsbook, you know, this is the calm before the storm.
41:40
I seen Jimmy. I said, "Let me ask something I've never asked him." I said, "Jim, I've known you 30-some years. How about a winner?" "I have a winner for you. Go to church." [laughs] Is that what he said to you?
41:50
That's what he said. He said, "Go to church"? Got 100,000 views. Go to church. Oh. Make sure you go to church. That's the, my, my, that's the winner I'm gonna give you. Jimmy Vaccaro- [laughs]...
41:56
the, the wisdom of 73 years, or however old Jimmy is now, I believe. You're being very nice. Am I being nice? Yes. Oh, he's the- I'm not gonna go there. Oh, 'cause he's the older brother, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.
42:05
Um, however, I just went to Sur- I just went to Circa. Yeah. And they have yes/no, which I love. Thank you, Circa, for putting these up. Uh, the yes/no props. This sounds so easy. Here's the first one.
42:16
It sounds too easy. Mahomes or Hurts to win the MVP. Either quarterback. What should it be? Guessing lines. Uh, w- let's see. He, Mahomes- I'm gonna put you on the spot... Mahomes is plus 120, Hurts is plus 350.
42:29
Now you get both. And you get both of them. Yeah. Um, what's the number? Minus 190. That's too high. Well- Little bit too high... everyone's gonna say, "Oh, well, they're definitely gonna win the MVP.
42:40
They're, oh, they're one of those two quarterbacks, definitely." There's no way I'm laying $1.90. No. You hit it, you hit it on the head. No. The public's gonna lay $1.90- Yeah... 'cause it looks so easy.
42:49
I would more look to take the $1.65 on the no. Um, e- Mahomes or Barkley to win the MVP minus two and a quarter, I can't lay these kind of numbers. I, I just can't.
42:59
Like, um, someone said before, uh, someone said something about some alternative ones on some of the receivers. Well, listen, if you get good enough odds, you could take a little peanut, uh, on one of them, a flyer.
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But I just think that this MVP market, that's past. E- everyone knows about it now. It's usually the quarterback. Used to get great odds on the quarterbacks. I think it's, it's past now.
43:20
But let me just tell you, some of the nos are definitely the better prices, because people can't lay 50,000 to one on Pacheco, 12 to, 120 to one on Worthy.
43:31
But, boy, I'll tell you what, if you have a bankroll, the, the nos are, are definitely worth the bets. Even, like, the score touchdown in the Super Bowl.
43:40
How many touch- there's only gonna be, there's supposed to be six touchdowns scored. I mean, uh, the no is, is the- Yeah... and some people score two touchdowns, right?
43:48
The no is the way to go, but everyone loves to bet the yes 'cause they love the plus money. Well, our human brains are wired for positivity, and so people like to bet overs, they like to bet yeses.
43:58
You know how, like, the common brain is, but that's... Y- if you're doing that, if your instinct is to do many of those, you're probably not doing it right, to your point. Yeah.
44:06
So next week you're, we're here, of course, right? Next week we're here. I'll have more of these things, more of the nos. But it's going to be the nos on a lot of things. Okay.
44:14
I have purposely left a large amount of money in my app for, for the no on a lot of these things. For a no onslaught from Billy. Yeah. Bill Krackomberger, @billkrackman with a K again.
44:23
Wise Cracks, the name of his podcast with John Orlando. Uh, thanks for listening. We've done all we can do. Stormy Bonatony next with Money Moves right here at VSIN, the Sports Betting Network. Enjoy. [upbeat music]
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