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May 7, 2025
A Numbers Game | May 7, 2025 | Hour 1
A Numbers Game | May 7, 2025 | Hour 1
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[upbeat music] The numbers told the story, they always do. So, all those idiots who believe in analytics- This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander on VSiN. Good Wednesday morning to you.
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This is a numbers game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, Sirius XM, channel 158. It's Gil Alexander. This, ladies and gentlemen, is Kelly Bidlin. Hey.
0:22
What's happening? Not much. You good? I'm good, man. How you doing? Yeah, I'm glad that you answered that. And, uh, it's not a rhetorical question. You answered it literally. Yeah, I'm done. What, what is happening?
0:30
I'm doing swell. You think to yourself, "What is, what actually is occurring at this very moment?" I, I like our day.
0:35
Our days start where we just start worrying about the show immediately, so there's really nothing that can happen in your day to make it bad. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Ah, there's no worry.
0:43
That happens after the show. [laughs] Uh, Will, Will Hill joins us momentarily. Give all his plays in every sport on earth, NBA and Major League Baseball primarily.
0:51
Uh, Kelly's got some things to say about the truest championship preview. We'll be country clubbing. Yeah. As Ice Cube once said, "We be clubbin'." I think that's what he meant.
1:00
Jason Weingart from Under a Cloud of Smoke, and then, uh, a little later on the show, right before she co-hosts Money Moves with JVT, Stormy will join us in studio. Yes? Yes. In studio. Oh, that's very nice of her.
1:10
Will be replacing me. Hope she's okay after the, uh, Knights loss yesterday, Vegas Golden Knights. Yeah.
1:16
Vegas Golden Knights giving up three goals in the third period to lose to the Oilers in game one of that best of seven hockey series. And the Caps, who got outplayed by the Hurricanes, eventually lose in overtime.
1:27
Those are your two hockey results from yesterday. Not a great strategy by the Golden Knights. I suggest not giving up three goals- [laughs]... in the third period. Well, you, you know your hockey. You should avoid that.
1:35
[laughs] You know your hockey. Um, we th- we, we gotta start with the National Basketball Association, but let me just get this trade in real quick- Hmm... in the NFL before we do.
1:44
Uh, for those who missed it this morning, if you were, uh, not, you know, available to hear things, were trapped under a heavy object, as Billy Crystal once said. What was that, when Harry Met Sally, when he said that?
1:54
Uh, the Cowboys have acquired, it appears, George Pickens from the Pittsburgh Steelers.
1:59
The Steelers, um, finalizing a trade where the Cowboys are gonna get Pickens and a 2027 sixth-round pick in exchange for a 2026 third-round pick and a 2027 fifth-round pick.
2:12
So basically, for a third and a pick swap- Yeah... is essentially what it is. And this escalated quickly this morning, so we're, we're basically, this is done, basically. Yeah.
2:20
It's, uh, apparently it was, they started talking during the draft. They didn't come to terms. Cowboys stepped it up with a third, and the Pittsburgh Steelers decided to move on.
2:29
And, and the first question becomes, uh, if you're Pittsburgh, why would you do this? And remember, this is the franchise that, you know...
2:39
Listen, Le'Veon Bell was, was the best running back in the NFL arguably, and they were like, "Yeah, we're not paying you. You, you can sit out a year if you want." And that was the end of him in Pittsburgh.
2:48
And then, uh, Antonio Brown, who was arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL at the time, and they're like, "We're kind of sick of babying you for all these years. See you later. We'll trade you." And they did.
2:59
Uh, Deontay Johnson, by the way, who was their number one wide receiver, um, at one point, they were just like, "Yeah, we'll trade you, too, to the Panthers."
3:06
So is it that surprising that this franchise would take a guy like George Pickens, who is wildly talented, but let's just say, um, isn't the easiest guy to deal with on the field during game days?
3:17
I don't know about other stuff, but he's, was, he's problematic at times. And they deal him to the Cowboys. In a year now, Kelly, where you just wonder about the Steelers because the,
3:28
the incessant wait for Aaron Rodgers continues. Right now you have rostered at quarterback Mason Rudolph, Skylar Thompson, and Will Howard. Remember they drafted Will Howard late in the draft. Um, I don't know.
3:41
You know, this is a... By the way, Pickens moving on from, these, these are all the quarterbacks that Pickens caught passes from. You ready for this? Oh, boy.
3:48
Kenny Pickett, Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, Mitchell Trubisky, and Mason Rudolph. I'm actually surprised that's it. It's b- that's actually better than I thought it would be. Yeah, yeah.
3:57
Um, but r- right now- In three years, right? Right. Yeah, right now the Steelers have Rudolph, Skylar Thompson, and Will Howard rostered. They're waiting on Rodgers.
4:03
And, you know, Pickens has gotta be, in terms of that, that trade-off, he gets to catch from Dak now. If you're Dave Ross or Cowboys fan, you're probably real happy with this.
4:12
I will tell you, as a Skins fan, I, I don't like seeing George Pickens in division, that's for sure. But from a Steelers perspective, like, are you punting on the season here? Will, Will asked me.
4:20
[laughs] Will Hill is joining us momentarily, asked me, he's like, "What do you think their ceiling is in wins?" I go, "8.51 wins."
4:26
Of course, we know their floor, according to, you know, everything Mike Tomlin does, is 8.50 wins, so. It's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as I saw this come down this morning, I just retweeted it.
4:33
I was like, "Nine wins still for, for the Steelers." It, it is though- Is it even that many, though? I, I don't know. I don't know.
4:38
I mean, seriously- And does, and does Aaron Rodgers matter- Well, well, and it's, it's, it's-... at all? What are we talking about even?
4:44
Like, are the S- the Steelers, are the Steelers getting to a point, 'cause I would have never said this about them before, but are they getting to a point where they're just a little cocky with stuff?
4:53
Like, they don't need this, and they can wait on Aaron Rodgers. Well, they- They don't need Pickens... they traded for DK Metcalf. They signed Robert Woods. So they clearly were planning this, right?
5:03
They clearly had this in mind that this could happen. I, uh, cocky? I don't know. I just think that's their brand. They're not putting up with nonsense. And
5:12
as far as, yes, the quarterback position is concerned, yeah, it's a little, it's a, that's the weird part, right? Yeah. Where it's like, oh, is this- And I mean it more that, you're right...
5:19
are just, are we wiping out this season? What are we doing? I- is Aaron Rod- like, we're not talking about 2015 Aaron Rodgers. We're talking about 2025 Aaron Rodgers.
5:27
Um, Aaron Rodgers, who I just wanna get the, uh, the month of, of birth once again with him. He'll, he's 41. He's gonna be 42 in December. Shit, man. Uh, Tom Brady skewed our brains- I mean, I think-...
5:40
on this kind of thing. Like, you just can't. You, you just, you don't play well at this age. So, like, one of the other- Buy the time, man...
5:45
one of the other next thoughts I had this morning when I saw this is, like, are, are, are the Vikings back in play a little bit for Rodgers? Like, what, you know, like, does this open back up things for him?
5:55
You, you called it. Does, does this have nothing to do with Rodgers? What was your trifecta, your love, your l- it's not a love triangle. It's the opposite of a love triangle.
6:02
[laughs] It was- Rodgers wants to play for the Vikings. Yeah. The Vikings have no interest in Rodgers. The S- if Steelers want Rodgers, Rodgers has no interest in the Steelers. Yeah.
6:10
And then there was Russell Wilson and the Giants- Yes... involved in there somehow, too. Yeah. And Russell Wilson wanted to stay with the Steelers. Steelers weren't a part of it either. [laughs] Right. Yeah. Yeah.
6:16
Um, so anyway, there's the trade this morning, George Pickens to the, uh, Cowboys. Um, pretty big, pretty big deal for early May, I guess I think it- Didn't see that coming I think it is.
6:25
I did grab this tweet from Fowler this morning, Jeremy Fowler. I, I think these are some interesting off-season additions by the Cowboys.
6:32
Of look, like, like you said, these are high upside players on rookie deals that they've made deals for this off-season. Kair Elam, uh, grabbing cornerback from Buffalo.
6:40
Joe Milton comes in to that quarterback room, that room you love so much, Gil. Uh- Can't have a building without rooms That's right. And then George Pickens at wide receiver now.
6:48
I mean, look, they might all be complete busts at the end of the day, but
6:52
I, I, I don't, I th- I like these kind of high upside moves by the Cowboys in a division that has gotten much, much tougher over the past couple years.
7:00
By the way, a third for Pickens, I get it, there was a pick swap also, but a third for Pickens is a better deal than a seventh for Jonathan Mingo. Remember that trade? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And a pick swap.
7:09
So there you go, Jerry.
7:10
Jerry said he had a substantive trade to announce, there it is, from the Dallas Cowboys and the Pittsburgh Steelers, who by the way have played Super Bowls, multiple Super Bowls against each other, three, so they pull off a trade there.
7:20
NBA last night, this playoffs is insane. Absolutely insane. Uh, three games in two nights now have been absolute heart stoppers, and last night the Pacers do it again.
7:35
They beat the Cavaliers to take a two to nothing s- uh, lead in their best of seven Eastern Conference semifinal series. Remember, the Cavs were the one seed here, and the Pacers have now taken two on the road.
7:47
Now remember last night, we talked about it on the show yesterday, that's why I grabbed the Pacers and the points, that's why I grabbed the Pacers on the adjusted series price.
7:54
There was a possibility that Cleveland would go without Darius Garland, Evan Mobley, um, and who was the third again? Was, was, uh, uh, of course, uh, Deandre Hunter. Hunter, yeah. And so that's what happened.
8:07
None of them played. And of course, what happened? Cleveland immediately goes out to a 20-point lead, 'cause that's how this N- that's how this NBA playoffs goes down.
8:15
Uh, they got to a 20-point lead seconds into the second quarter. The Pacers would get it within eight during the second quarter, but the Cavs led by 11 at the half. Cavs would go back up 20.
8:25
81-61 with 6:51 left in the third quarter. They led after three by 14. The Pacers would then cut it to four several times. They couldn't get past that. But here we go.
8:36
Remember game, remember the final game against the Bucs when the Pacers did the impossible? They were down seven in the last minute with 40 seconds left, I believe it was, and they came back and won that game.
8:46
Remember the ball going five hole through, uh, Gary Trent Jr.'s- Ugh... legs. After a ridiculous game. Tyrese just going right to the rack without any defensive resistance, and they overcame that.
8:57
Well, last night, 119-112, Cleveland with 48 seconds left, just like in the, uh, Bucs game where, uh, it was, uh, it was, uh, Green was on the line. AJ Green was on the line for a free throw that he missed for the Bucs.
9:12
This was a f- this was a free throw attempt this time by Siakam, uh, on, on the, uh, on the, on the Indiana side. He misses, but Nesmith with a follow-up rebound jam to make it 119-114, nobody boxing out.
9:28
Then Donovan Mitchell elbowed Nesmith in the face. They didn't call it a flagrant, they only called it an offensive foul. Coulda been a flagrant. Coulda easily been a fra- flagrant. 45.9 seconds left.
9:39
Uh, 119-116 with 27.5 left after a Siakam driving bucket. So then it's the Cavs ball. They're only up three.
9:47
And then I don't know what Max Strus was thinking, but he, like, he sort of threw this lazy inbounds pass- Terrible... and there was Nembhard to, to pick it off. Terrible inbound pass.
9:57
This ca- And you're like, "This cannot be happening." So Haliburton, you figure the Pacers with a chance to tie the game. Instead, Haliburton drives. He's fouled by Ty Jerome. He makes the first free throw. 119-117.
10:09
This is the closing seconds now. He makes the first free throw. 119-117. He misses the second. I don't know what the Cavs were doing, but Donovan Mitchell bats it. Haliburton comes up with his own rebound.
10:21
He then sort of, the, the ball sort of caroms outward. He stumbles outwards towards the, towards the top of the key. He then is one-on-one isolation with Ty Jerome. He dekes him in like he's gonna drive.
10:32
Jerome leans back. Haliburton steps behind the, behind the line, behind the arc. Three-pointer. Dagger. 1.1 seconds left. Heave doesn't come close, and the Pacers steal another one.
10:45
And this is from Jamal Collier, just to put it all in context. "What a stat from ESPN Research.
10:50
Since 1997, '98, teams are three and 1,640 when trailing by seven plus points in the final minute of the fourth quarter or overtime. The Pacers this postseason have two of them." Good God.
11:07
It's wild. [laughs] It's absolutely wild. It's incredible. And the, uh, look, the Haliburton celebration afterward. Man, he did, he did have to take that three.
11:15
This was, this was not like the conversation with Aaron Gordon from yesterday, right? Where we were kinda joking about the questioning after the game of Aaron. Aaron Gordon just had to get a shot off. Yeah.
11:25
Haliburton, he knew what he was doing taking that step back and taking that three. Overrate this. Pacers now up two to nothing. They head back to Indiana. We'll see if, who of the three guys the Cavs are gonna get back
11:39
in game three. Ca- uh, Pacers now a minus 205 adjusted series favorite. Up two heading back to Indiana. We'll come back. Will Hill will join us. It's the Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
11:50
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12:03
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12:14
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12:23
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12:36
Is that true about Greg Peterson? Yeah. Well, uh, uh, he texted me. Wow. What a moment. Haven't heard from him in a bit, and he was- What, what happened with the sleep schedule? I, I have, a- actually, I have no idea.
12:47
His post-college basketball sleep schedule changed? I don't want to say... I, I, I, I don't wanna, I don't wanna guess- Okay... but I'll guess. I think he's going to bed later. Wow. Even later.
12:53
Even- Which, which means later in the morning. So he jogs 10 miles in the middle of the night? I mean, I don't know, but that's the only thing that makes sense, right? Like- That boy crazy...
13:05
like the only reason you would start going to bed from like, instead of at like 6:00 AM- Yeah... and, and now you're gonna go to bed at like 9:00 AM- Yeah...
13:11
the only reason to do that in the summertime in Las Vegas would be because you're running at night, right? [laughs] That kid is awesome. I, I don't know, though. I can't...
13:19
I know it might be hard just looking at me, but like I can't think like Greg. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. I gotcha. Uh, we- I, I don't run like he does... we get tweets that beat me to the book.
13:28
James Sott: "This is gonna be a tough opening segment for me and my Cavs, but I'll take the medicine. Not like I'm not used to Cleveland sports. Sorry about that, had to be done." Tim Bowers: "Yo.
13:36
Is there now going to be a daily segment called Kelly's Spite Bet of the Day? Just asking, no particular reason." [laughs] Kelly's spite bet yesterday was on Barcelona, who lost to Inter four to three. What a game.
13:48
What a game. Like, I mean, what a, what- And you, and you bet it because you were angry that you didn't bet something before. Well, no, I did bet it. I did bet it the week before.
13:56
Uh, the week before, I bet it in the first leg, and Inter, Inter had like three... It was three-three draw. Yeah. Trying to get all the lingo right. Yeah.
14:06
Three-three draw after the first leg, but it was like every goal that Inter had was like the most miraculous goal that you could ever think of.
14:14
Yeah, but it was a spite bet 'cause you were angry at yourself for not doing something. No, no, I was angry for having, for losing that bet the week before. Oh, for losing the other one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha.
14:20
Yeah, so. Uh, and then JC, uh, JC562076, he says, uh, "Warriors," that is all. That's the entirety of his tweet. Well, yeah, that's true, JC.
14:28
Of course, the other game last night, the Warriors beat the Minnesota Timberwolves. So we have all the f- all four underdogs in the conference semifinals. This has never happened before.
14:38
All four conference semifinal dogs in game one not only cover, but win outright, and the Warriors do it too.
14:44
Uh, they beat the T- the T'wolves last night, and they beat them pretty handily to take a one to nothing lead in that best of seven series.
14:50
But the headline, as everybody knows, is that Steph Curry has a hamstring injury, and he had to leave the game with 8:19 left in the second quarter. Was having a good game, too. 13 points.
15:02
Hammies are pesky, and you just don't know. He's definitely gonna be out game two, for sure, uh, in Minnesota tomorrow night. Who knows, you know, what the Warriors will, will look like.
15:11
I think a lot of people are saying they're gonna punt, but we don't know what a Butler-Draymond Warriors team looks like. Who knows? All right, Jimmy Butler- Yeah. Playoff Jimmy, man...
15:19
has p- has dragged worse teams than this- 100%... to wins. So- Uh, let's, let's bring in Will Hill, @NotTheWillHill, courtesy of Progressive Guest Line. Uh, he is the host of the Shoulda Bet More podcast.
15:30
He's on the Megapod. He's on Chris Fallica's, uh, Bear Bets podcast at Fox Sports. And we have something, uh, more official to, to mention also, Will, about, uh, VSAN Prime Time?
15:41
Yeah, VSAN Prime Time gonna be Thursdays and Fridays, uh, with our, our buddy Matt Youmans starting next Thursday and Friday. I think the, the bosses at VSAN thought I needed a mentor in terms of my diet.
15:50
My diet's been slipping a little bit, so not only a co-host, but a, a, a mentor with Matt Youmans. Well- So excited for that... he's a medical marvel... lifestyle mentor. Yes. Yeah.
15:57
You n- you need that in your life, Will. Yes. And Matt, Matt is a perfect person for it. About the Dubs, about the Warriors, Will, they got a shot here? What, I mean, l- let's say it's seven days.
16:07
Let's say Steph doesn't come back till game six. How does this play out? You and I are rooting for him, but, uh, I don't like this.
16:14
It doesn't look good, doesn't sound good, and it's not just can you get him back on the court physically for like a game four. I think even two and three is a stretch.
16:22
I've been doing a lot of reading about it this morning. Sounds like even the grade 1 hamstring strain is the mildest version. Even that is like a week plus. Yeah. Let's just say he comes back game four.
16:33
All the stuff he has to do off the ball, all of the getting open, is, uh, re-injury. Is he gonna be like 100% Steph? Geez, this, this feels like a series that the Warriors were very live in, uh, midway through the game.
16:45
And it's, it's funny, he, it- hopefully it's not that bad, 'cause he stayed in the game a little bit after, and he was jogging, and then he just couldn't go. It's not like he went down and couldn't get up.
16:53
That being said, without Steph, without 100% version of Steph, this feels, uh, daunting, I would say, for, uh, for Golden State.
17:02
Uh, Minnesota, that line just c- t- continues to grow and grow in terms of the series price. I think Minnesota, I hate to say, it probably wins the series now. Um, and even Butler, I don't think...
17:11
I, I'm curious what you guys think, what, what Kelly thinks, 'cause you watch them all regular season. Butler to me hasn't looked great, hasn't looked completely recovered from, you know, his, his glute injury.
17:20
It's a lot of settling for mid-range jumpers. He's not really exploding, getting to the foul line, getting to the hoop. So I hope I'm wrong. How about the tickets?
17:27
If you had some inclination, Buddy Hield would lead the game in scoring Sunday night- Geez [laughs]... against the Rockets. Game seven was 80 to one, and last night was 100.
17:34
What if you just woke up Sunday morning, and said, "You know what? I just got a feeling Buddy Hield's gonna lead the, the games in scoring the next couple days"? You would've, uh, man, you could've made some money there.
17:41
Unbelievable. What, what a couple days, though, i- in the NBA. That 24-hour stretch- Oh...
17:46
between the s- the Knicks comeback, the Nuggets comeback, and the Bucks', uh, the, the Pacers-Cavs comeback, the, the, the Knicks-Pacers comeback that I was on the air for, sh- was me basically for, uh, for an hour and a half just finding different s- ways to say, "Wow," and, "I can't believe what just happened."
18:01
That's about as crazy a 24-hour stretch in the NBA playoffs as I can ever remember. I don't know which is the most incredible of them, to be honest with you. Last night's might have been. I, uh, yeah.
18:09
Last night's felt like they were never in the game. They, they, they weren't. No. Yeah.
18:13
J- JVT texted this to, to the g- uh, the old Hardwood Handicappers group, uh, yesterday, maybe a little hyperbolic, but, uh, said, "This is one of the best playoffs in recent d- in like the past decade."
18:24
It's- And I'm like, "Yeah, it's up there." Oh, it is... it's, it's gotten there quickly.
18:27
Remember the first round there was the one, you know, I guess the Nuggets-Clippers series, obviously they had the Aaron Gordon dunk game. Mm. And the Knicks-Pistons. But besides that, it wasn't that awesome.
18:35
But, but- That Bucks-Pacers game... but now all of a sudden, yeah, the Bucks-Pacers last game. Um, but this has been unbelievable.
18:42
It's interesting, it's ironic because usually the NCAA tournament is filled with upsets and crazy finishes, and the NBA playoffs is sort of a chalk fest.
18:49
And this year it's flipped where the NCAA tournament was a snooze fest. It was all the ones, it was a lot of blowouts, a lot of chalk. And now the NBA tourname- the, the NBA playoffs is all upsets and crazy finishes.
18:57
So it's, uh, it, it's weird how it's flipped. And 119-112 Milwaukee, uh-- boy, I keep saying Milwaukee 'cause I, I'm thinking of the comeback last, last week. The Pacers shooting free throws, they miss both of them.
19:08
If they don't get the tip dunk there, and Cleveland gets the rebound up seven- Yeah... they probably get fouled. They probably make either one or two free throws. It's over. They're up eight, they're up nine.
19:17
The Pacers probably call off the dogs at that point. All right, maybe you throw up one last three. If you make it, maybe you foul, maybe you don't, or you score and you foul. Maybe you just, y- you miss and you foul.
19:25
The game is over if they grab the rebound and they make one free throw, so the Pacers are probably not even gonna try anymore.
19:30
And, uh, look, it's not why they lost, but I've seen this now three times in the last week with these crazy comebacks. The, the Bucks-Pacers one, the Cleveland-Pacers one, and OKC-Denver.
19:40
You gotta leave yourself a timeout if you're these coaches. I know y- you struggle sometimes to get it in. You panic, you call a timeout. You gotta leave one in your pocket just in case.
19:49
You can't put yourself in a position where you're down one, a second left, and you gotta throw a full court shot. You, you just kinda have to keep one i- in the back pocket there.
19:57
Yeah, it's, and, and all these teams have to be complicit to get, you know, to, to, to just absolutely choke those leads away, right? Yeah. Boston has to keep chucking up threes.
20:07
The Cavs just have to keep not boxing out. Like it's just fundamental basketball. It's like, what are you doing?
20:13
So, so to follow up on that, you, if you take a step back and look at that fourth quarter last night, I, w- Brian Windhorst went over this. I, I, great notes.
20:20
In the fourth quarter, 26 points allowed in the paint by the Cavs. Allowed the Pacers to score 26 points in the paint. Come on. 11 of them second chance buckets- Wow... off of rebounds.
20:30
It's just- You have to- That, you take a step back and you go, "Okay, well now I know why they lost." You have to leave the door open.
20:35
So as far as, uh, as far as game, let's just talk about the ones we just talked about. We'll get to tonight's game after the break with Will. Um, Indian- Indiana up two to nothing.
20:44
Uh, minus 205 series favors the C- uh, Cavaliers plus 175 on the comeback. We don't know who's playing in game three for the- Yeah... for the Cavs.
20:51
Um, but the C- but, uh, I will say this, the Cavs are minus one and a half point [laughs] favorites in game three in Indiana.
20:59
Total remains for the third straight game at 229 and a half, and both the first two games went over. It didn't matter. W- it's like I had the under. It's like it doesn't matter.
21:07
These teams figure out a way to get past that number. What do you think about the Cavs being a tick of a favorite here in game three?
21:15
In the first move, the, the first line I saw was the Pacers favored by a point, so somebody bet the Cavs heavy, I guess, just based on the fact that desperation down 0-2, but, uh, it's hard to bet them when you don't know who's playing.
21:26
And not only we don't know who's playing, and those injuries don't sound like they, uh, you know, Garland with turf toe, Hunter with a dislocated thumb, which, look, I'm not an NBA player, but a thumb seems important.
21:36
Uh, and I don't know, like the swelling, can that go down in thr- in, in three days? They do have a couple days off. It's not like every other day, so that helps. I would only look to the Pacers in game three.
21:44
I, this, th- this did cross my mind. We almost saw this with Boston-Miami two years ago.
21:48
This could be a rare scenario where Cleveland gets down 3-0, but they get their guys back, and they're not necessarily dead for the series. They somehow win game four, home for game five.
21:57
Then all of a sudden, oh, it's game six and it's a series again. That did cross my mind, but, uh, I would only look to the Pacers here on Friday night. Yeah.
22:04
It's only the second time that a team that has won 60 plus games lost the first two games of a playoff series before the NBA finals. So the Spurs of 2017 lost the first two games to the Warriors.
22:18
Remember, that was the Warriors team that almost went 16 and 0. They went, they went- Yeah, right... 16 and 1 in the postseason. But th- but this is the fir- and th- that was the conference,
22:27
uh, that was the conference finals, I believe. This is- Yeah... the conference semifinals, so this is sort of unprecedented. So no plays. La- last one before we go. Well, don't go anywhere. Padres plus one and a half.
22:36
This has been a great umpired series so far, but I, I like the Padres, uh, in this game series. [laughs] Well, Will, stick around. We got more with Will. We got more- Oh, all right. Cool... more picks.
22:43
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We get tweets at Beating The Book. Um, Wet Willie. Yeah, Wet Willie Colon. He, he said it. He goes, "Very disappointed in Gil. He did not mention the Sam Cassell tribute by Haliburton." Yes.
23:35
He went full Sam Cassell after that. Mm-hmm. Kelly, would you like to describe that, uh, demonstration or n- n- no? You want me to show it? No, don't do that.
23:41
[laughs] Uh, Kevin Ryan, "Gil, these money line NBA parlays are so much fun. Sincerely, the Woodshed." Well, why you doing that?
23:49
Brian M., "With the, with the George Pickens trade and everyone saying Pittsburgh is trash, I found a funny stat.
23:53
Mike Tomlinson [laughs] has an- has as many losing seasons as Ben Wilson has nice things to say about Eagle on ANG." [laughs] That's true. Ben Wilson. Uh. Eagle hater. We love you, Ben. Noted.
24:04
Uh, Will Hill, kind enough to join us for our second straight segment. Uh, real quick, uh, so we're gonna get to rapid fire Will picks now on the NBA and Major League Baseball.
24:11
But first, this is, uh, Chris Finch, um, the Timberwolves coach after the game last night with the Warriors now up one game to nothing. Here's what he had to say, particularly pointed at his superstar, Ant Edwards.
24:24
What is there to talk about? I mean, you're the, you're, you're the leader of the team, and you gotta come out and set the tone, you know? And always that that happens.
24:33
And if it, if your shot's not going, like you s- you still have to carry the energy, you know?
24:39
So, um, you know, I, I, I don't, I don't think there's, you know, if I gotta talk to guys about having the right energy coming into opening round game, opening second round game, then, you know, we're not, you know, we're not on the same page, so.
24:56
Maybe, maybe Chris Finch should have some energy while he's talking about energy. He's like, "I need some guys that have some energy, and uh-" It was, uh- Yeah... I like, I like the...
25:04
I mean, look, Ant, Ant needed to be called out, right? You, you can't let this- No... series slip away- No... especially with Steph Curry on the sideline. Like, you gotta show up and play. Ant had a terrible first half.
25:14
And that gets in your head too. Like, if you know the other team's superstar is out and they're still beating you- Yes...
25:19
or e- even if you, if, if even if it's a tight game in game two, like, that's a sphincter-tightening kind of thing.
25:24
Um, Will Hill joins us now courtesy of the Progressive Guest Line once again, @NotTheWillHill on Twitter. VSiN Primetime co-host Thursday and Friday nights, that's the headline.
25:33
Uh, let's do these one by one in chronological order. Let's start with tonight's games. Uh, Knicks up one to nothing on the Celtics. Celtics installed as a 10 and a half point favorite, total two 10 and a half.
25:43
Series price, Knicks still plus 270. Celtics still, I say in quotes, minus 340, meaning that, uh, they're still prohibited favorites. Do you have a play on the series adjusted or game tonight?
25:55
I'm just thankful it's been installed, otherwise none of us could bet any of this stuff- That's right... without it being installed, as we know. That's correct.
26:00
Uh, I was on the air Monday when game one ended and game two, the line opened, I gave out Celtics minus eight and a half, so not a pass post fest. Keep your fine pocket, uh, you know, empty there.
26:11
Um, at 10 and a half, it's a two-point movement. It's a different story, and going back and looking at, you know, how the game ended, it, it, it's tough when you're, you're doing the shows and the game's on.
26:20
I didn't realize how much of a non-factor Porziņģis was. Uh, this vague, strange illness that's reoccurred, we don't really know much about that, and Brown has not just...
26:29
You know, watching some of the highlights, wa- rewatching part of the game, doesn't, not look like he's completely healthy. Doesn't have the same lift, so at 10 and a half, different number.
26:37
I, I don't love, like, giving out, oh, I gave out minus eight and a half, now I'm gonna take the 10 and a half. If I had no bets, I would look more towards the Knicks sign.
26:43
At some point you gotta just snap out of it and realize, you know what?
26:47
These preconceived notions about we, that, that we have about these teams from the regular season and the regular season data, maybe that's telling us lies. Maybe that's misleading us.
26:55
I understand that, uh, it's a very profitable trend. Team loses game one at home, they tend to roll in game two. I've always been a big believer in that, but these games have been so crazy.
27:05
I'm not laying 10 and a half, so if I had no bets, I would, I would take the 10 and a half with the Knicks. Copyright Gil Alexander on that whole regular season, post-season thing. Yes. I, I just think- CC...
27:12
I just think it is a completely d- different season, and it's, it's bears out once again it looks like. Uh, Denver-OKC tonight, same situation. Denver up one to nothing. Game two still in Oklahoma City.
27:24
Thunder favored by 11. Total still 229 and a half. Adjusted series price, Denver still plus 235. The Thunder a minus 290 favorite, down one.
27:35
Yeah, by the way, I thought I could aggregate you and you might not notice- [laughs]... but since I'm in front of you and doing it on your show, you, you did catch that. Um, I think I'll take the points again here.
27:44
I think that OKC just has no answer for Jokić physically. For all of this depth they have, for all the draft picks and the assets, Caruso's tremendous the other night, they don't have a great rebounder.
27:55
That's not a great rebounding team, and just physically, Holmgren is a string bean. Jokić has to have a good 80, 90 pounds on him.
28:02
Uh, Jokić is gonna continue to have these monster games, and again, the team that's down 0-1 at home usually comes out with their hair on fire.
28:09
Even last night with, with Cleveland, who lost the game, you know, led 35-17 at some point. So maybe OKC runs them out of the building, but again, I'm taking the points with Jokić. I just think Jokić is such a mismatch.
28:19
They've actually, and he's never been my favorite player, to say the least. Westbrook has given them a, a lift. He's played pretty good defense.
28:25
Gordon, who I, I really like and I'm happy for him, he's been through a lot personally. The stuff with his brother, and I guess he's, for people that don't know, his brother passed away in a car accident.
28:33
He's been raising their kids. He's, sounds like a really good guy, so I'm happy he's had these moments. He's played well in ha- at that big moment, so I'll, uh, I'll, I'll take the points here with Denver.
28:41
I picked OKC in six coming into the series. I be- I bet it at plus 475. I thought I was giving Denver more respect than a lot of other people. Uh, maybe I even undershot. Maybe this is seven.
28:51
Maybe this is a series where Denver is live. So again, if, um, you know, if Dagnell does not throw up all over himself, and that was a terrible, terrible job he did on Monday night. Terrible.
29:01
It's 108 OKC, and we're not really thinking Denver's a threat to win the series. It's like, okay, Denver hung around, but they're not gonna actually win the series.
29:07
So I don't wanna overreact, and that is something where, you know, the, the, the past years, Lakers were down 1-0 twice in the Bubble, never lost another game in those series.
29:16
K- uh, the, the Kawhi Raptors were down 1-0, they were down 2-0, and they were down 2- uh, 2-1, three different series end up winning. So we can overreact to game ones, I get that, but, uh, I'm not laying the 11 here.
29:26
I'll take the 11. I think Jokić is a complete mismatch, and maybe some Jokić props over are way to go, because there's no way, n- no way to stop him with the, uh, the lack of defenders OKC can throw at him. I'm with you.
29:36
I'm taking the 11 points. Unburdened by the OKC glory of the regular season, I will take the 11. Thank you very much on this. Uh, and then just to clarify on tomorrow night's, uh, games, game three in Indiana.
29:47
Cleveland, you're waiting because we don't know who's playing for Cleveland. Again, the, uh, the Cavs favored [laughs] by one and a half, down two games to nothing.
29:55
And then Golden State up one, Minnesota up to a 10-point favorite, Will, for game two, total at 202. Are you playing either of those two tomorrow night currently? I mean, I don't love laying the 10.
30:07
It would be, it'd be favor to pass. I'd probably look at a Warriors team total under. That would probably be the way to play it, just because I don't think there's any chance Curry plays.
30:15
Uh, I guess Hill can continue to do this.
30:17
I guess Butler can have one of these games, but I, I think w- and instead of laying the 10, and if Minnesota doesn't come out with a Steph-less Warriors team and win this game and win it comfortably, boy, that says a lot about them and, and, and nothing good, and that was a terrible performance by them last night.
30:31
Th- what, they, they had 31 points at the half, right? And they led after the first quarter, just a strange game.
30:35
But, uh, I, I would look at a Warriors team total under there, and it would be Pacers or nothing in that game, which I think is Friday night.
30:42
0, 0 for 15 from behind the arc, the, uh, T-Wolves were in the first half of that game. All right, to baseball. You sort of- Coming, coming off a seven for 47 from three in game five against the Lakers. Right.
30:51
It's crazy. That's right. Um, Yankees beat the Padres yesterday 12 to three. It was three to two in the seventh. Yes.
30:57
And then the Yankees went o- went off on the, uh, on of all things the Padres' bullpen, uh, with a 10-run frame. 12 to three, the Yankees win this.
31:05
But I will say, 'cause you know I was, I was chat- yeah, I was chirping about this the whole game Boy, it's one thing, you gotta go into the Bronx. They got the payroll. I know it's Hal and it's not George.
31:15
Spare me the Steinbrenner shift. I get it. But you go into a team that, that can buy whoever they want, and then the umpire. This was horrifically- Mm-hmm... umpired. Like, it is amazing.
31:25
Every ball that went into the strike zone for, uh, for Schmidt, that's a strike. If it was out of the strike zone, if it was a strike. And it was just the opposite for the Padres. It was unbelievably imbalanced.
31:37
Does, does... By the way, did you check out the umpire, uh, tracker on that? Am I correct in that? I'm gonna get to that this, uh, this morning here.
31:44
As soon as I'm done here, I'm gonna audit it pitch by pitch as I always do. Thank you.
31:47
Um, this is just a tribute to the '98 World Series, where Mark Langston threw a very borderline pitch to Tino Martinez, correctly called the ball even though it was at the, at, at, at the knees in the strike zone.
31:56
The next pitch was a grand slam. So just a, a tribute to the '98 World Series. That's all. What are your baseball plays today? I took the Padres plus a run and a half. I like the fact that- Hmm...
32:05
uh, I get the, uh, I think Freed's a little overvalued at this point, even though he's been outstanding.
32:09
Uh, and Cease hasn't been great, but I, I'm getting the run and a half, and I might get the extra at bat here, being the road team. Uh, I did play the Mets on the money line with Senga going.
32:18
I know Gallen got him last night, but I think the Mets, uh, Soto, I think, is gonna start to turn the corner here, and that is a really good, really deep offensive lineup.
32:26
So I took the Mets, Padres plus one and a half, and I believe that is it. There's one more, but I think I'm forgetting it. [laughs] But I think I'm forgetting it. Um, how are you with your Yankees?
32:36
You feel good about them, or you're, you think they, they need some reinforcement? They're okay. They're okay. They're, they're okay.
32:41
They're bet- they're better than an average team, but they've got some holes in the rotation. You can look at it one of two ways.
32:46
If it weren't for Devin Williams, if they got the Devin Williams they expected, this team would be, you know, borderline, like, one of the better teams in the league.
32:53
But you could also look at it if, w- without Freed, they've been, like, a below average team. So a lot of holes in the rotation, some dead spots in the lineup.
32:59
But when you got Judge at, playing at this level, and, you know, Goldschmidt's giving him something, Ben Rice is giving him something, it's an above average team in the American League. It's just not that good.
33:08
By the way, final thing. I know we're running out of time. Are you and Wishnev okay? 'Cause I know this, this Padres bet caused a little rift between you and Wishnev. Oh, thank you for bringing this up.
33:15
Yeah, the Padres- Yeah, of course... were unscathed until right around the seventh inning. Old Todd Wishnev decided to live bet the Padres. Oh, man. That's what did it.
33:23
And then, and then verbally assault Wandy Peralta for some reason. [laughs] He thought he was Wandy Rodriguez, I think. He's like, "This Wandy stinks." I'm like, "It's not the Wandy you're thinking about."
33:32
Ah, thank you, Will. Thank you for reminding me of that. We'll blame it on Todd. Will Hill, everybody. All right. See you guys. Thanks. VSiN Primetime Action co-host, Thursday and Friday nights with the humans.
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34:54
[laughs] We get tweets at Betting The Book. It's so funny with, with our... We have the best listeners ever, and it's so funny how they get on something, but we don't even know that they get...
35:03
Like, we have multiple "Are we sure?" tweets here. This is from Uncle Bush. "Are we sure ESPN didn't call up the Steelers to orchestrate the Pick and Strain so they can lead all their programs with Cowboys talk?"
35:14
[laughs] We are not sure, Uncle Bush. We are not. That was pretty good. Uh, Trip Tepper. Uh, "Yes, the Utah Hockey Club is now the Utah Mammoth. They have very slick unis. Well done.
35:25
I'm sure most of the internet will hate their rebrand." That's from Trip Tepper. Oh, I hate it so much. The Utah Mammoth.
35:30
I am still so angry over this story, Gil, and y- you know I don't really care that much about the NHL.
35:35
But this is- This could have been the greatest name in sports They le- they left it up to the fans, as your, as your Commander's team did, right?
35:42
This has become a recent trend wi- with teams, but it's leave it up to the fans. What do you want the team to be called? The Utah Yetis. Oh, the big, bad Yeti Cooler company had to step in and say, "Oh, no.
35:55
That name's already taken, guys. Find a new one." Instead of a just natural advertising partnership, you know, be really obvious. Golden Knights got a nice circa on their, uh, on their chest. Uh-huh.
36:05
You know, Yeti for Yeti might have worked out okay. What's the name of the company that, that blocked it? The Yeti Cooler companies. You know, they, like the little Yeti, uh- Oh, the little-... drinks and stuff?
36:13
The, uh, coolers The coolers. Yeah. Oh, they blocked it. Yeah. The Yeti- So they had to redo it... the Yeti, as everybody knows, when I was a kid, we used to call the Yeti the Abominable Snowman.
36:23
There were movies made about it. Uh, indigenous to the Himalayan mountains, apparently, which of course are in Utah. [laughs] That's, of course, everybody knows. Utah Jazz, great oxymoron. Utah Yetis would've been sweet.
36:34
Yeah. Wet Willy Colon came back. He says, "When our little friend Kelly drops another 20 pounds and reaches his goal weight, we need a Sam Cassell tribute in-" [laughs] "... a Sam Cassell tribute in camera."
36:42
He's really h- he's really, really honed in on the Sam Cassell thing. Sam Cassell, which school, Gil? Oh, Sam Cassell. Where did he go? Oh, good one. Why is, why would Kelly ask a question like that? Oh, FSU, of course.
36:55
[laughs] Uh, Bobby Gettys, "A segment behind here, but are we sure," that's amazing, these guys, "uh, that we should just believe that the Steelers know what they're doing because they're supposed to be a good franchise?
37:05
I know people say Tomlin is a good players coach, but based off the list of former Steelers players, it's like they don't even conduct interviews before they draft players." Oh, no, we're not sure.
37:12
I'm just telling you what their brand is, and they're like, if a player gives them trouble, it doesn't mean, it doesn't matter if they're the best in the NFL.
37:18
They're like, "See you later," Le'Veon Bell, Antonio Brown, or whomever. Um, so that's their brand. Now, am I sure that they know what they're doing? I don't at this point, because again, their quarterback room...
37:28
is ridiculous at this point, and I don't know what Aaron Rodgers, I don't know, like, the big wait for Aaron Rodgers, what are we waiting on? Oh, yeah. We're waiting on nothing. Oh, yeah.
37:36
W- waiting on whether he wants to play or not still? Like, it's May, dude. I would, I would not be surprised if he just retires and this whole thing was just so he could have more attention. I'm serious.
37:45
I, I wouldn't be either. Um- And at the same time, I, we always give the guy a hard time, like, I don't know, maybe he's working out every single day actually trying to figure out if his body can handle another season.
37:55
Maybe. Maybe. But I doubt it. [laughs] Uh, Major League May most wins up to date. As we mentioned, the Padres lose their first one yesterday to the Yankees. Royals in first place. The Kansas City Royals, five and one.
38:09
Look at them. Padres in second at four and one as they head to the Bronx for the final one. But I cannot wait to get out of the Bronx. The umpiring is ridiculous there. You have to beat the Yankees and the umpires.
38:20
Well, it was just completely one-sided yesterday? Oh my God, the balls and strikes, I'm like, "Are you kidding me?" And Padres still led three to two. I mean, but, like, overall or just on one side? Just on one side.
38:29
Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, last night. It was ridiculous. Uh, the previous night they finally gave some back to the Padres in the ninth when Suarez was on the hill, but not last night.
38:36
Um, then there's a whole host of teams at four and two. Giants, Cubs, Guardians, Athletics, who lost late last night to the Mariners, Nationals, who split yesterday with the Guardians, and the Cardinals up four and two.
38:47
So it's Royals in first place at five and one. They got 22 games left. You see everybody in that right column has either 22 or 21 games left in the month of May.
38:55
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39:01
But here's the thing about a May bet with us, when I say that about these books, they have enough time that if they see it coming, they can adjust the lines accordingly and, and not, you know, take in all that liability.
39:13
Right, yeah. They can manage their book, if, if you will. Uh, I mentioned that we were gonna talk more football.
39:17
If you missed it, again, what, with that, uh, gentleman Bobby Gettty was just referring to, and, uh, what the, uh, previous tweet, um, about, you know, are we sure that the, that ESPN doesn't wanna just start every show with the Cowboys.
39:28
Uh, if you missed it earlier, George Pickens traded, traded this morning from the Steelers to the Cowboys, uh, for a third round pick, and then there's a pick swap later in the drafts.
39:38
But, uh, essentially for a third round pick. So the Steelers, um, unle- you know, just saying, "Well, we got DK Metcalf, we got, uh, Robert Woods. We're good to go here." They didn't draft any wide out either.
39:48
That was another thing. Um,
39:51
got us to thinking, because Pittsburgh, obviously they got, what, Mason Rudolph in that, in that, uh, quarterback room, and Will Howard and Skylar Thompson waiting on Aaron Rodgers, got us thinking, what about other teams?
40:02
And you can bet on these things at DraftKings. The Colts. Quarterback to take the first snap in week one, Kelly. It's your guy, Anthony Richardson. You love Anthony Richardson. Yeah, I do. I do.
40:12
We- He's minus 280 in a quarterback room, I love that. Every time I say that I think of Wishnev. Uh, in a quarterback room, 'cause it drives him crazy, has Daniel Jones, remember, right?
40:23
Daniel Jones is in the Colts', uh, depth chart here, plus 210, and then they drafted Riley Leonard from Notre Dame at 40 to 1.
40:31
Um, I think we, we chatted about this briefly the other day, and I think we're in agreement here. Anthony Richardson should be the favorite, but minus 280 seems very high, doesn't it? Yeah. It does.
40:41
I, I, I- 'Cause he's a one- Look, I still love Anthony Richardson.
40:44
I'm not ruling him out at all yet, but, like, when a team brings in another quarterback, like Daniel Jones, it's not waving the white flag, Gil, but whatever color flag for, "Hey, we've got a little bit of a problem here.
40:55
We're gonna need a [laughs] like, we're gonna bring someone in-" What color is that? "... just in case." I don't know.
40:59
[laughs] Um, but yeah, I, I think minus 280, I'm not running to bet these other guys either, but I- The thing is, An- I think you gotta stay away from this Colts one...
41:08
'Cause the thing is, he could have a bad camp or a bad preseason game, and th- I could see them pulling the plug on him really quickly. Mm-hmm. They'll just be like, "Okay, why don't we, this doesn't look good." Yeah.
41:23
I, I mean, again, you brought in Daniel Jones for a reason.
41:26
There's, a- a- and at his age, where he's at in his career, a, you know, you're, you're sitting in that front office saying to yourself, "Hey, this guy might have some ball left in him, too."
41:35
So very easy for us to consider making a switch if I, uh, Richardson does not look the part at all. Anyway, if you're fiending for some football plays in, uh, the month of May, there's one.
41:43
Here's, here's another team, by the way. Uh, quarterback to take first snap in week one. By the way, it's interesting that it's worded a quarterback to take first snap in week one.
41:52
So remember, like, I remember there was one year where the Dolphins went into Wildcat and, uh, was it Ronnie Brown took the first snap? Yeah, we have, uh- But th- but these are worded quarterback to take first snap.
42:02
Now let me confirm that, Gil. Oh, okay. This is a great point by you. Thank you. This might just be me making up stuff. Oh, okay. Kelly's just wording it how he chooses. Mm-hmm. Or is it just who takes the first snap?
42:13
That's a big distinction. Yeah, I think it's just who takes the first snap. Okay.
42:15
So again, the, you could if, if, if somebody went, if one of these teams went into some wild formation and it wasn't a quarterback, you could be, uh, torpedoed here for everybody.
42:23
The Giants to, who's gonna take the first snap in week one, Russell Wilson is the prohibitive favorite. It is quarterback to take the first snap. Oh, it is quarterback. So they clarified that language. So there it is.
42:34
You can't be torpedoed by a non-quarterback. So even if the first snap doesn't go to a quarterback- Huh... you will wait for the first snap to go to a quarterback. Okay, glad we clarified that.
42:42
[laughs] This could be the second snap of the game then. It could be the second snap, right. Russell Wilson minus 800, and your boy Jameis six to one. So Russell, like, imagine being Jameis, by the way.
42:55
You're like, "Ah, thanks so much. You signed me." And then Russell Wilson gets signed after you, and then they draft Jaxson Dart after you. Just Jameis is like, "Wait a minute. Why did I come here?"
43:04
I'm s- I'm still mad about it. Like, it's just, but, but what does, what does Russell Wilson get you, Giants, right? Like, y- y- you knew you were gonna go after- Just enough, just enough wins to not draft Arch.
43:14
N- hey, th- there you go. That's what it gets you. Uh, Jaxson Dart 16 to 1 to get the first snap over both Wilson and Winston. And, uh, don't forget Tommy DeVito is still rostered at 100 to 1.
43:25
Yeah, what's- This is, this is correct, right? Wilson is the, is absolutely gonna get the first snap. Yeah. I think you could make the argument here actually that minus 800 is, uh, not short enough. Yeah.
43:36
I think you're right. I don't know. I mean, you talk about, we were just talking about w- does Pittsburgh know what they're doing? What are, what are the Giants doing? I, I have no idea.
43:42
Well, and- I mean, that's where- And by the way, side note, did you see this whole Abdul Carter thing where he asked Lawrence Taylor for 56, and Lawrence Taylor's like, "No."
43:50
Okay, so wait, what- And then he, and then he asked Phil Simms for 11, 'cause that's what he wore at Penn State, and Phil Simms's like, "No." So it started with Taylor? I think so. I saw the Simms one.
43:58
I didn't see- Oh, I don't know. Maybe that was the wrong order... I heard there was, I heard there was another one. E- either way, what is this little pitch? I- I'm sorry, Abdul Carter, but that was a little shmendrick.
44:06
What, what are you doing? You know what? What are you doing asking these, these legends, especially LT? Why should LT give you 56? So I, you know, I don't have a problem actually with him asking. I do.
44:15
I don't have a problem- I have a 1,000% problem with him asking... but I, but I have zero problem with these guys being like, "Hell no, you're not wearing that." Make your own legacy. Have some sense of history.
44:24
Good God. Really, 56? It's like the most iconic jersey in the league, and I'm a Skins fan, for God's sake. Country Clubbing next on the Numbers Game. [upbeat music]
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