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Nov 28, 2024
A Numbers Game | November 28, 2024 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | November 28, 2024 | Hour 2
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[upbeat music] The numbers told the story. They always do. One of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
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Hour number two of a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network. VSiN.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, all proudly brought to you right here from Circa Resort Casino, downtown Las Vegas.
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It's Gil Alexander on Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. May it be a, a wonderful holiday spent with family, food, and football. Hopefully you win some money, uh, in the process.
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Um, Crack coming up momentarily unscripted, and man, has he got some stuff to talk about here, because negotiations are, are happening. We'll get to that momentarily. Uh, too many tweets to get to this morning.
1:07
I'm serious about this. Uh, we figured we'd come in here Thanksgiving, uh, how many tweets are we really gonna get? There's more tweets this morning than ever before, so we really...
1:14
I, I'm truly grateful to all of you for the, uh, for the kind words. A Brown, uh, multiple tweet warning. He says, "Understand if you can't read them all, but Happy Thanksgiving to you both."
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And then he wanted to talk about Washington versus Dallas, and how elated he was as a Cowboys fan, and so congratulations to you, A Brown, three tweets deep. [laughs] Uh, Tony Farmer, "I'm thankful for your show.
1:31
I unexpectedly acquired flight anxiety after a bad flight to Vegas that involved a sandstorm. Long story. I wouldn't have gotten through the trip back home without your show to calm my nerves.
1:40
No, your show gets me through every flight." Thank you so much, Tony. I appreciate that. Thank you for all of your Survivor updates. Portent of a conversation to come with Crack Man momentarily.
1:50
Primetime, Cowboys_Cubs1, "Yo. Hey, man. Happy wild turkey and eggnog day. Uh, I'm sorry, but I'm crazy.
1:56
Been on a lifelong bender and to see the Cowboys [laughs] are on a winning stre- streak despite having played the Washington football team last week," uh, he didn't really say WFT, if you know what I mean.
2:05
"Care to explain, Gilly?" Well, you see, uh, what ha- happened was, uh, there was a couple t- kickoff returns for touchdowns. Oh, never mind.
2:12
Uh, this is from, let's see, oh, uh, JoeC714 wants to let us know that he crushed his draft. Wow, he went Saquon first, Derrick Henry second. My goodness. Um, let's see.
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This is from, uh, GV, New Jersey/New York, talking about the Todd Wright segment. Said, "Barkley's remorse," oh man, that's going to, uh, be on a blue T-shirt outside the, uh, Lincoln Philly, isn't it?
2:35
And then Deborah Millot. Deborah, we love it when, uh, when the, uh, female gender listens to the show. We love having ladies listen to us. Deborah, thank you. She says, "Happy Thanksgiving with all the fixings."
2:47
Thank you so much. Doug Wedge, "Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Thankful for A and G every day." And on and on, and I appreciate every single one of you. Thank you so much, uh, Kelly and I.
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On behalf of Kelly and I, we, we just have s- such a great time every morning with y'all, so thank you so much for listening.
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Which brings us to, just because it's the holiday doesn't mean we're not doing this, unscripted with the Crack Man, Bill Krackenberger.
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[upbeat music] Billy, Happy Thanksgiving, man. Happy Thanksgiving.
3:24
This is another year I came in, and- I'm-... Thanksgiving Day. I'm gonna say you are schvitzing more than I've ever seen you schvitz before here prior to the show.
3:32
You know, you have, like, get out of the shower and you're still all hot and running around. I was fine. Mm-hmm. And then I'm, I'm, I have to tell you, I've been in some deep negotiations for pieces of the Survivor.
3:42
Okay, let's talk about this. Okay. So we had, on the show this week, we had Jake Bensiquin on. Jake is a co-founder of Prophet X. He happens to be responsible for one of the remaining 54 entries in Survivor. Mm.
3:55
Each of which has an intrinsic value of over $264,000 currently- Yes... in the $14.244 million, $14.266 million Circa Survivor contest. Now, last year you were, you had percentages. Mm-hmm.
4:10
You had a percentage of someone who got to the end, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So this year, I think w- even as recently as last week, I was like, "Hey, you doing anything?" You're like, "Uh, it hasn't happened yet."
4:17
Yeah, well, last week I was, I was back east, the Fox, at Foxwoods, and, um, there was some negotiation going on with, with a, with two different teams, and one, um,
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one I thought I was gonna have a deal with, but they didn't do it. The same team came back this week with an offer. I counter offered, they counter offered, and I, you know what, I'm, I'm supposed to counter offer again.
4:41
Instead I just went for it. So I, uh, I bought t- 20%, uh, of a really good team.
4:47
That's the main, the, the main thing is to have one of these teams that have this, that have se- the, there's 17 people that have Detroit available. Mm-hmm.
4:56
And, um- Every one of which is using Detroit, by the way, as they should. Oh, I, it hasn't come out already? Yes. Every one of them. All 17? All 17 that have the Lions are using the Lions.
5:03
Oh, I thought th- I thought there was one that wa- okay. All right. So, so- At least that's the word I got. Yeah. Yeah. All right, good. So 17 people all used Detroit today. Uh, m- my team is one of them.
5:13
I bought in for, um, for 20% of one of the, uh, which I'm not gonna say yet, but I, I, I just, uh- You don't wanna say who it is... you know why? 'Cause then everyone roots against you. [laughs] But, uh- Wait, hold on...
5:27
well, they already know I have Detroit today, so I'll just- Oh... I'll give you that. So you, it's down to, you have a one in 17 shot of guessing it.
5:32
Well, I, I really, I, I don't mind saying, but I just don't wanna know if the guys as a team, and, and they're, they're, they're su- they're s- so sweet, these guys.
5:39
You know, I- Did they approach you or do you approach them? No, they, they approached me. So, so I, I actually, uh, yesterday we, we, we went on a Zoom call together.
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I mean, look at all, they're all like, they're all college guys. This is the father of one of the co- these guys were all in college together and, and, um, it wa- it was just really cool.
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And, and- Where'd they go to school? I don't know where they went to school. [laughs] Somewhere in the middle of like North Dakota or South Dakota. Oh, okay.
6:01
[laughs] No, I think went to South S- I think somewhere in South Dakota. I'm sorry, guys, if I'm getting your, your state wrong. I think that's what they said.
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So wait, you, you bought 20%- Yeah For, am I allowed to ask how much? What you- 40,000. For 40,000? Yeah. So you got it at a discount. I got it at a discount. Okay. Listen, it's real simple. There's not...
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And, and thankfully, thankfully even to me, I have a partner. We're, we, we went partners on this, but- It's 52, 53,000 would be the exact percentage. You got it for 40,000. Got it for 40.
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There's not a lot of people that are gonna hand someone, you know, $40,000- That's very correct, yeah...
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or, uh, bank wire $40,000 and, and, and have a, you know- But they, but they know you're walking around town with, with wads of cash, so they're like, "Let me go call the crack man." Not really, because- Yeah...
6:41
yeah, they, they, they, they would literally... I said I can give you, like, 10 cash if you want. I have money going, you know, all these apps. I mean- And this literally just happened outside.
6:49
Well, outside was, like, the final thing. We had a negotiation on the, uh, as you see on, on, uh, Zoom and stuff. Mm-hmm. And, um- Good for you, man... there's a couple different people.
6:58
Someone just approached me outside too and was talking. We were talking back and forth about he's trying to get a team, uh, with the Survivor Sweat site. Mm-hmm.
7:05
And, um, they- This was, by the way, I, I hate to interrupt one more time, but they, this was the thing, you and I talking about Survivor this year.
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The difference between Survivor this year and, and any other year before this, besides the carnage of the first five weeks, is that this Survivor Sweat site is there.
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And what you were, what we were finding was instead of people buying in for discounts, people were buying in for a premium. And you were like, "I'm not getting in this." No. "This is ridiculous."
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I'm not, I'm not getting in for no premium. But you waited long enough and you got the discount. Waited long enough where, where the money meant a lot to people. They spent, you know, $1,000 each to get in.
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So this, this, you know, and someone only has so much money. And, um, you know, thou- 1,000 a guy, I think it's, like, six grand. And, uh, you know, 40,000's a lot.
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And, you know, they, they, they asked me for advice on the Zoom call. I said, "What? You don't want advice by me." Don't give them advice. Don't, don't- Yeah... you guys do what you want on, uh, Sunday.
7:55
That's, that's all you need to give them. Well, on Sunday- Loser the first week, yeah... on Sunday they, they asked, "Oh, we have these two teams. Which do you think?" And I, I wouldn't give a team.
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'Cause listen, you guys got here on your own. I've lost. I'm out. Good for you. Good for you. Me and all the wise guys that are out, we're all out. So- 'Cause that-...
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however you guys got here, keep on doing the same thing... 'cause that is the rub. I mean, you know, I brought up Jake before, Jake Bensiquin, who was one of the 54 remaining entries or has one of the remaining 54.
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By the way, there's 46 people with one entry left. There is four people with two entries left. Wow. I didn't- That's the 54... yeah, I did notice there was some doubles there. Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, you know, we were talking about it. Okay, he had, by the way, he's taking the Chiefs, the other big favorite. Like, he, and how many people have the Chiefs?
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37 of the remaining 54 have the Chiefs available to them. Some of them might also have the Lions, so it's not gonna work out exactly like that.
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But the, the question became, and you just alluded to it, okay, let's say the Chiefs and the Lions, for those who picked them, are able to get through. Um, funnier things have happened, but let's say they are.
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Sunday and Monday, good God. Yeah. Sunday's tough. Buffalo's the biggest favorite. Drew Dinsick was joking. He was like, "Imagine saying to people, 'Oh, I hope you saved Buffalo against San Francisco.'"
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No one expected that to be- No... the big favorite. By the way, here is the breakdown for today. 29 went with the Chiefs. All 17- All 17... went with the Lions. Oh, you're right, Gil. Yeah.
9:08
Five went Cowboys, which is the, uh, the interesting play. They had no choice. I, I know one- Yeah... of the team.
9:13
One, one of the teams, I, I admit it, one of the teams I was negotiating with to, to get the Cowboys, um, I, I literally went to him and, and, and one, one of the teams I offered him 17 and five for 25%, 'cause he had a really bad, a really bad path.
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Yeah, 'cause not all entries are created equal at this point. Cowboys or Packers he had to pick. Yeah. So he came back and said 25%, he won't go lower than 30,000.
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I said, "Tell him I wish him the best of luck, no hard feelings, all good." Yeah. Uh, he will remain with 100% of his entry, though. No chance with his remaining picks he get, he gets that. Yep.
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There's no chance, because already he's, uh, he's picking. He has to, he has no choice, but he, he got rid of all the good teams.
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He got there, and luckily enough, uh, dancing through the raindrops, uh, you know, getting the right teams here. So, um, it was fun. It was fun going back and forth. Uh, this, this group, I, I, I was gonna counteroffer.
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What do I do? Counteroffer 38,000. For two grand, let's, let's have some action, boys. There you go. So- By the way, I just wanna say this last part. Yep. Sure. So five peop- five entries are on the Cowboys today.
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Um, three are on the Packers. Um, so it's, by the way, it's today's three games and tomorrow's Black Friday game included as well. That acts as its own week in Circus Survivor. 13A, if you will.
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Sunday and Monday are 13B, if you will. I'm curious, 'cause we know all 17 that had the Lions went with the Lions. There were, what was it, 37 did I say that have the Chiefs?
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I wonder if any of the people who had the Chiefs left, there's gonna be some overlap with the Chiefs and the Lions, I get that, but I wonder if anyone who had, who didn't have the Lions, but did have the Chiefs, opted to take the Cowboys- Ooh...
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just as some kind of- Interesting... strategic- Well, there's no strategic. You have to save one of these teams for Christmas week, too You do have to save one for- So- And, and the Kansas City plays on Christmas...
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and Kansas City plays. Yeah. They play Pittsburgh. Yeah. But I, I put a lot of time into this. I really did. Like, the path that this guy, that this team has, they have a really nice path.
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I, I, I think I got a good, a good price here. Um, like the path the other team I was negotiating with, it was actually four teams at one time, but up until last night, the path he had was just, uh, dead man walking.
11:15
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, Bill Krackomberger, but, uh, 20% of, uh, of $14.266 million is a, uh, cool 2.8, 2.9 mil. So I will be getting more than my partner, because I negotiated this. Mm-hmm.
11:29
Just to let him know. Oh, you, you are- Just to let him know. You are wi- Just to let you know now. [laughs] It's no big deal. It is what it is. Wait, wait, hold on.
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You, you, you are, you and a partner are involved in this. Yes. Okay, so you wouldn't get the full 2.8. No. But you're saying just now you are telling your partner you would get m- more than half of the 2.8.
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It's only right. I'm the one out here. I'm the one ta- uh, you know, it j- What do you think he would say to that if he hears that? He might get a little upset, but it is what it is.
11:49
I mean- [laughs] I like, I like that you use this platform to tell him- It's the same guy that I was putting the picks in for years ago. Remember I told him I'm getting a million off the top? Oh, yeah. Same guy.
11:57
Same guy. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. It is what it is. He knows, he know who's he's dealing with. He knows who he's dealing with. I got the football, baby.
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Uh, Bill Krackomberger, uh, unscripted, @BillKrackWithAK, Wisekrack's the name of the podcast, here on Thanksgiving. Love this guy. Coming back on a numbers game right here at BSN, eSports Betting Network.
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Matthew Mayberry, "A Happy Thanksgiving, guys. Let's sweep the board." Let's do it. Disgolfer, [laughs] what, what's this new titter site you were referring to before the break? Yeah, messed that up.
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Sorry, I forgot the W. Uh, this is, oh, Iga, Iga Swiatek accepting a one-month suspension after testing positive for a banned substance. Tom F says, "Iga Lamar Swiatek," why are you saying Lamar? I don't know.
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What is that? Uh, what are they saying? C- contaminated, they said, and they only gave her a month? It's very, very interesting. Tennis, it's interesting when this stuff happens, right?
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'Cause Simona Halep, oh, nine months. Oh, but you can come back. And then with both Sinner and Swiatek at the top of their sports, S- Sinner, they completely swept under the carpet. Swiatek is only one month.
13:47
Very interesting. Uh, John Fitzgibbons, "Hello, thanks, uh, Happy Thanksgiving, Gil and Kelly. Thanks for all you do all year long for all of us who listen. You make it a privilege to be part of ANG."
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Uh, Shades of Mako, "Yo, Happy Thanksgiving to the whole VSiN family. Thankful for the entirely, uh, entirely too much to list," he says. "What a beautiful life we live. Let's kick off some foot- from some football."
14:08
Yes. What a beautiful life we all live. Gr- uh, grateful absolutely is what we should be today. Very nice.
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J- uh, Jaime Raciel, "Nothing like seeing, uh, one Kelly's beard hair out of place, one of his beard hairs out of place in 4K. LOL. Happy Turkey Day. Thankful for Crack Man. Love the show."
14:24
Roger Jones, "Happy Thanksgiving, guys. Any sightings, pics from the Sausage King Abe Froman?"
14:29
[laughs] Uh, Sausage King of Omaha, Kelly, no, no pic, no sighting from him, but he does wanna meet the Crack Man after the show. Oh. So he's gonna say hello to you. The Sausage King? The Sausage King of Omaha.
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He'll explain. Oh, okay. Uh, Chuck @ChunkyGazelle, "Thank you for having Todd Wright on. It's been forever since I've heard him, and it made me realize how much I missed listening to him. So good.
14:49
Will add his pod to my rotation now. Happy Thanksgiving to the team running the most intelligent show in media." Thank you. That's very nice of you. And, uh, Steven Brosek1870, "Happy Thanksgiving, Gil.
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Thank you and Kelly for getting me through this half day. I'll see you guys at, at Bill's Thanksgiving party." Oh, you weren't invited. [laughs] That's, uh, Bill 80.
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We never, we're still waiting for that invitation to Bill's birthday party. Um, and then B. Miller, "French silk pie, AKA whipped cream chocolate mousse to the pylon as time expires."
15:16
Everybody's showing their, uh, their food today. Uh, we cannot, there's too many to get to. We cannot even catch up- It's unbelievable today... with the number of tweets, so Happy Thanksgiving- Wow...
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really to all of you. It's awesome. Yeah, no, I, I clicked on the notifications, and there's 20 plus, which, uh, happens a lot, but however, there's about 100 of them. Like, you have a really good fan base. That's great.
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Best listeners ever. And they're so, they're such nice guys. Thank you for those nice tweets, guys. Absolutely. Absolutely. This first game here starts, uh, 9:30. So this was an interesting thing that happened here.
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There was 10 and a half and even 11 sh- here, at the South Point here in town on this game, and, um, one of the syndicate guys, real sharp guy from back east, gave out Chicago plus 10 and a half.
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Went down to nine and a half, nine, even eight and a half right here. Right here at Circa, eight and a half. Yep.
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Even I had to say to myself, "Wow, this is a good teaser opportunity maybe with this eight and a half- Sure...
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looking at," but then again, I, I, I have to say, even though we're here, I love the guys here, I, I have to look at the Circa prices compared to market. I know I, back east DraftKings has $1.20.
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Uh, there's other, couple other people that have $1.20. I even know a do- $1.10 spot, so for, I can't lay $1.30 on, on a six-point teaser, but so I've seen that- Which is what it is here at Circa is what you're saying...
16:30
I think it's $1.30. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. N- nowhere in town is it... The, Caesars was the last of the Mohicans.
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Um- I'm telling you, man, when we get, when we get legitimate sports betting in this, uh, state, in Nevada- Yeah [laughs]... this will be a hell of a place to live We need competition here. Yeah.
16:41
We really do need competition, pricing competition. And, and they'll never let it in. There's some, uh, yeah, I don't think they'll ever, I don't think they'll ever let it in.
16:47
This- Remember how we were for, for, like two or three years we're like, "Oh, DraftKings will be"... Not that we were pining for DraftKings specifically- No, we, we actually want them here...
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but we were like, "One of these, one of these, you know, DraftKings or Fanduel- Yeah... they'll be here any day." Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's never happening.
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The, what's the sportsbook that's over at the old Hard Rock, Virgin there? Virgin. It took them two years to get there. Bet- Betfred. Betfred. Is, are they- Did they ever get licensed? I think they did.
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Maybe someone else will tell me if they didn't. I, I thought they finally did after a couple years. I don't know how they even got in. Listen- No...
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there's a, there's many reasons why there's, these sportsbooks aren't here.
17:18
I think the main reason is because the gaming boards are so scared of anything happen like Cantor coming in town, and Cantor embarrassed them, even though they fined them, like, $35 million.
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I just think that they want more, um, control of the sportsbooks that are here now. Like, they, they're, they're just policing them. They've, they've policed themselves, the sportsbooks.
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They don't want any more aggravation, even though it would make more tax dollars, more money for the state. Um, that's just a hypothesis. I mean, there, it could be just that this town is still a cowboy town.
17:53
You're all just guests. We're all just our guests. You're all just our guests. You know? But- They don't want, they, they want their... Listen, as long as it, they have their own little ecosystem- Right...
18:01
there's no, there's no c- you know, impetus for innovation or being better to the bettor. It's just getting worse and worse. You're right. That's being better to the bettor. Yeah.
18:09
Yeah, we, we, no, we need that, even if we're not only allowed to bet pennies on the app and only allowed to bet at the counter, which I am. Right. Uh, we need it here. MGM and Caesars used to take bets. Yeah.
18:18
Now, every time you go up there, it's anxiety-ridden. Yeah. It's like, okay- Yeah... how much are they gonna take? Are they gonna move the number on me? At least Caesars moves the numbers. MGM wouldn't do it.
18:27
I went to, I went to Caesars last night. I, I- Yeah... I mean, I was gonna go to Caesars last night. I wanted to bet something. I wanted to bet Steelers under eight and a half wins plus $1.30. It's probably still there.
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So I called- Sh-- I attempted to call at 9:30 'cause I was, I was out and about running around town, and 9:30 I called, and I, I, I don't wanna tell you how... You can't get the main number. You get...
18:48
I tried so many times to get the main number. You get a call center in Thailand, and, and- Mm-hmm... you, all you wanna know is the hours of the sports book. That's all I wanna know. That's all you wanna know.
18:57
No, they, no, no one could tell me. They, they said, "Hold on, we'll, we'll call. We'll, we'll call back to the United, to the United States on my secret line. Call back and try to get..."
19:05
No one could tell you the hours of the sports book. I walked in 10:30, it was closed. I mean 10:15, it was closed, so. Back, back to the survivor thing- Yeah... for a second.
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By the way, did you end up ma- making a bet on, on the, on the game or no? No, I'm just saying that now it's- Yeah... it's back to nine and a half. Yeah.
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Some tens popping back up, stations win, um, uh, far off places some 10, so now the, the, the, the line's going back to where it was. But eight and a half, I thought, wow, that's interesting.
19:29
That, they're not moving that to eight and a half without taking a big bet. That's right. Someone bet them plus 10 for a big amount of money. Yeah. One thing they do, they, they, they do move on, on big bets here.
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A hundred percent. A hundred percent, sure. They have their certain accounts that they know. I grabbed Lions minus nine and a half because I think it's gonna go back up to 10 or 11. Well, it is. 11 or 11.
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It, it's going, as we speak, my screen's lighting up- Yeah... a little bit.
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And then, you know, here we got an hour before the game, and, you know, the public, even though it's a standalone island game, they still don't know what they're betting.
19:57
They'll bet last minute on something because they just don't know. The G- we were talking about this earlier, the Giants-Cowboys game. Yeah. Forget, forget this one. Yeah.
20:03
The Giants-Cowboys game, which is the, the middle child, if you will, of the games today. Right. If this is my, my line, is if this is in the middle of a Sunday early slate, does anybody bet this, right?
20:13
But because it's sitting there, right- That's right... in the middle of your Thanksgiving, people feel compelled to bet it. And you can...
20:19
Man, we, we tried giving a sort of angle earlier, and I g- you know, I was like under, if anything, maybe under first half, maybe under game.
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But man, you can't, there is no way you can logically talk yourself into one of these sides. Yeah, I agree. These are garbage can teams, both of them. Uh, exactly what you said. I didn't talk to into one of these...
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And by the way, the line just went back to four at a couple shops. So this line went back. Yesterday, a group hit it plus four, plus three and a half, went down to three right here at Circa.
20:46
Two went down to three almost everywhere. Back up to three and a half, minus 15 here at Circa. Four is at three different shops.
20:53
Uh, boy, this, this, this is, uh, this is, this is a game where I just wanna bet, maybe bet some prop bets. Um, I'll, I'll, I'll even give one out to people. How about that? How about that?
21:01
I never, I usually never do stuff like that. Thanksgiving prop- Thanksgiving prop... from Bill Krackenberger.
21:05
No, this prop I actually do like too, 'cause I, I heard, uh, uh, that they were gonna, um, give this guy the ball more, so, uh, let's see here. I'm gonna guess CeeDee Lamb over. No. [laughs] Uh, Nabers.
21:16
So Nabers props- Of course...
21:18
I, boy, if they have like a first half, like some of these places, which we don't really have first half prop places, but I know that like the, the, th- those places, uh, like FanDuel, DraftKings, maybe even MGM and William Hill have first half.
21:29
But anyway, Nabers over receiving yards, um, on the Giants. So there's a, there's a rare Thanksgiving prop and- He was also chirping, Malik Nabers was, after the last game- Yes...
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of, you know, "Talk to the coach why I'm not getting the ball." That's right. So they may wanna feed that beast. They, I seen, I, th- they actually- Yeah... are supposed to, so we'll- Yeah...
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we'll see, we'll see what happens there.
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Uh, and then the, the, the night cap, listen, I, I, I was saying it all week on many different shows, Green Bay, uh, they were, they sat there minus three at the south point for days.
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It was minus three, minus 15 h- here for four days. Four days. And I was like, "I just don't get this."
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Now, it sounds so square, or it sounds like, you know, um, uh, Green Bay in the cold weather, close to zero temperature, and Miami, a warm weather team, going to the cold.
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It sounds so square, but yet- But the numbers back it up, though... the, the, I, I, I, I bet, I bet Green Bay in this game. It was the, it was the- I bet Green Bay minus three, and minus 110, and- Me too...
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and even minus 115 here. It was there for a long time. I said it on seven or eight different shows. It's, um, minus- Bill, it was the only game that I liked on Guessing Lines. Oh, really? I'm like, I guessed four. Yeah.
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And I think Kelly, at the moment that we were doing Guessing Lines, he said, "Oh, it's two," but he, two and a half. He goes, "Oh, but it moved to three already," at the, it, Monday morning. Yes, yes.
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But- Miami needs the game more. We know that. We know that. Situations like this, and it's any, any given Sunday here, any given Thursday, anything can and will happen. Yeah.
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I understand that, but I just think the quality of this team compared to Miami, I just think that, that they'll win the game. Um, so we'll see. I give out a couple plays here, open myself up and see what happens.
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I'm with ya. I like it. All right, good. Bill's feeling frisky. Thanksgiving plays, and he's got a percentage of survivor. Oof. Hey, uh, Bill's partner, remember, if you win, he gets more than half of your percentage.
23:11
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24:14
Check it all out again at vsin.com/poker. We get tweets at Beating The Book, my God. A ton. A ton of 'em. Roger Jones, "Can't wait for next Thanksgiving when we get to see a bit called Pick a Total and a Total.
24:25
Not sure how it will work, but have 364 days [laughs] to come up with a plan after Kelly's genius side and side segment earlier." James Sott, "Happy Thanksgiving, Kelly, Gil.
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Thankful for your show, for great betting and great entertainment. Also on making pecan and pumpkin pie a pick 'em." I'm gonna go pumpkin a little bit, little slight edge.
24:43
Jason H11, "Stovetop is the only acceptable stuffing." I agree. "Mac and cheese is way overrated." I disagree, because you eat it year round. "Green bean casserole is trash.
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Pumpkin pie all day with a scoop of vanilla ice cream." Oh, that sounds good. Aaron Bender, "Would you take the Lions minus 10 even money or minus 9 and a half, minus 110?" Oh, the latter. 9 and a half.
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Minus 9 and a half, minus 110 all day. "Happy Thanksgiving as I drive home from my 24-hour shift in the ER." You know they do that to, to f- uh, folks in medicine? They, they go the longest shifts. 24 hours.
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How can you- 24 hours in the ER... how can you work the, like the last four or five hours? I don't think that makes me feel good. Jesus. Yeah. Wow. Thank you for your service. Yes.
25:21
Stat Logic Sports, "Happy Thanksgiving to you and Kelly. At least the Commando Skins can't wait, can't, can't give us indigestion today. Thankful for your Ashton Gente discussion the other day.
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Convinced me to hedge my Hunter bet with Gente. Please do not discuss Cam Ward next week." I, [laughs] I promise I will not. The RGB, "Happy Thanksgiving, gentlemen. Look forward to your show every day.
25:40
Looks like the South Point has many options for dining today. Enjoy. Oh, and Caleb Williams is not that special." Uh, this is from Bobby Knuckles. Oh, our own Bobby Knuckles. He says, "Thanks for the shout-out, uh, Gil.
25:51
Uh, Happy Thanksgiving. I'm always around in a way, in your hearts." Very nice. All right, Roberto Moreno.
25:56
Brian Young, "Nothing better than listening to one of my favorite segments on VSiN with, uh, Gil, Kelly, and Bill on Thanksgiving. You guys are the best." Wonderful.
26:03
Thank you, and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your Stringfellow Hawk, who we met a couple weeks ago. Oh, real nice guy. "Happy Thanksgiving, fellas," he said, "Wife and kids are cooking.
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Then I come off the top rope with deep-fried turkey- Oh, man... from Rawda cooked in 45 minutes. Positive EV for your behind." Except he doesn't say behind. Oh, yes. Uh, James Morand. Oh, I don't understand this.
26:24
James, I, I know you're trying to get at something here, but I, I honestly cannot decipher your question. We couldn't. Bill and I couldn't- Yeah, this was a, the way he worded it- Yeah. And this is a good guy, though.
26:31
He's a good follower of ours. Uh, Mind the Gap Radio, WFDU HD2, he says, "Happy Thanksgiving. Fins up. Too many people on Green Bay today." I'm one of them. Uh- Mm, you should be right...
26:41
Chicago Dog House, "Sausage King of Omaha's in the house. Can't wait to meet his idol, Bill Krackomberger- Oh, nice... after the show today." Wait till I tell my wife I'm meeting a sausage king. Oh, man. All right.
26:50
His name is Kelly, too. Kelly the Sausage King. Awesome. Jim Devitt, "Happy Thanksgiving to the best guys in the biz. Thank you for all you do." Thank you, Jim, and Happy Thanksgiving to you.
26:57
Pat Monteforte or Monteforte, "Happy Thanksgiving to you both. So greatly appreciate all of your content and daily programming as it's part of my daily routine.
27:05
On a business note, your kindness and generosity has led to an intro to Bill Adee," he s- he calls him, [laughs] "and I am full of gratitude to you." We are full of gratitude, both Kelly and me, uh, to all of you.
27:15
Big Ma- uh, BG McAvoy as well, "Happy Thanksgiving to the whole VSiN crew. Hope everyone wins today." And there are more, and we will get to them. Uh, Billy- Can I just read one? Please, absolutely.
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[laughs] 'Cause I don't get a chance to, to, to, uh, read one like this too many times. So Larry Fresh says, "I came home f- from, from the grocery store, and my wife is awake and out of bed.
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I said, 'You're up early to cook.' She said, 'Nope, I'm up to watch the Crack Man live.'" There you go. "We usually watch Thursday evening at the work. Have a wonderful Thur- Thanksgiving."
27:45
I usually don't get a chance to say this. You still got it, Billy. No. Say hi to the wife for me. [laughs] He l- he lives for that. [laughs] That was great. Thanks, Larry. He lived for that. Appreciate it. Couldn't wait.
27:56
Back to Survivor for a second. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, we were reminded, and I brought up the, uh, the interview we did with Jake Bensequin, who would get as one of the 54 remaining entries.
28:05
You put up anything on Twitter on Survivor, and in a blink of an eye, tens of thousands of views. Yeah. People, I thought this was- That's a good point... I thought this was the year, right?
28:15
'Cause the carnage in the first five weeks was so epic that e- even Derek, Derek Stevens, who owns the joint and who invent- you know, came up with this, with the Circus Survivor contest, he even said, he goes, "I don't know if, like, all that carnage the first five weeks is good in the long run, because it's so devastating that it's, it's tough to talk about afterwards," right?
28:36
That's right. 'Cause very few people will be all that interested in it. I think that was true for a while, but now that we're down to less than 100, I think it changes again, right?
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And people are like, "Oh, I wanna see how this plays out."
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I came, I came on this very space week four and said, "I think," after week four, I said, "I think all these people getting knocked out will hurt this for the future." Yeah.
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I think I was, I think I was maybe a little, uh, jaded. I said immediately- Because you said immediately, "No, it won't." [laughs] No, it won't. I was like, "I, I, I think this'll hurt this for the future."
29:07
These people are upset. They came here. They came in the summer. They were happy as can be. They spent money on a hotel- [laughs]...
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airfare, food, restaurants, all their accommodations, and they get knocked out in the first week. Like, they're not coming back again. But you, you said a good point. There, there's a lot of buzz here.
29:23
So next, next year, 15 million? I think so. 15 million. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, I think so. Do you see... Did you see the video of the gentleman who had the, uh, Washington, uh, taco holders?
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He had Washington against Dallas. The video of him on Twitter watching the Terry McLaurin 84-yard touchdown pass, and then the missed extra point. The camera was on him.
29:41
So he's- Oh, the guy fell to the ground or something? His euphoria. Yeah. It was his j- it was the- Yeah... what is, what's the Wide World of Sports thing? The thrill of victory- The agony of defeat...
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and the agony of defeat. Oh, wow. They might as well have used that. Oh, that was sad. Yeah. That, that's actually a good promo clip- Yeah... is the guy that [laughs] used it of the- Yeah...
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what, it could be just the same exact thing as the skier. There he is r- there he is right here. This is courtesy of Stephen Stalinsky. It's the same thing as the, uh, the skier going over the cliff sideways.
30:04
The incomparable Terry McLaurin going 86 to the house, or was it 84? Wow. You get the idea. Wow. And look, he is just wa- He's just like, "Okay." [laughs] Imagine his brain space.
30:14
I'm just a Washington fan, and if I could, like, take you into- Wow... my brain when McLaurin was going downfield. Now here he is waiting- There he goes... for the extra point. Extra point.
30:21
Well, he, like, like he- Austin Seibert... like he knew it was a s- a- The snap, the hold, the kick. Oh. Down goes Treasure. Wow. And we sh- Wow... we showed this the other day, as others have. Hmm.
30:32
And I, I had to say, I was like, "You know, in all seriousness- Wow... you feel terrible." That's bad. I actually feel bad for the guy. He was so- He, he tweeted in yesterday.
30:40
S- s- seems like a super nice guy, as, as most are who are playing this. Well, I don't know if most are, but he certainly is. Sure. And, um- There's nothing quite as bad as a late survivor loss. Yeah. Yeah, no.
30:52
That's the other thing about getting back to your point about, oh, I think this will be bad for the cause. If you lose in the first five weeks, you're kind of like, eh, whatever.
30:58
I, I, I kind of was, wasn't even, until last week, until these groups approached- Yeah... the, the, uh, proxy, I wasn't even into it. I wa- And, and I'll be real blunt. I, I text Fez and said, "Fez" Yeah, is he doing it?
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I said, "Fez, you know, maybe you should," I, I, I mean, I'm gonna read this without him saying read it, but I mean, I'm sure he's okay with it. I actually text him, I said, "Fez, I, I got some good offers here.
31:19
Maybe we should, uh, should, you know, should get involved here." I love, I love that we do this on the show 'cause I do it too. Yeah.
31:23
People, people DM or, or text us, and without even asking, we're like, "Let me read your text to everybody." Yeah, I'm sorry to do that, but- Yeah, that's all right...
31:30
so I sent him the, uh, a- and he said, "You know, I, I'm just not into it. I'm just not into it this year," and, uh- Fez is out. Yeah, he's out. He's got some other stuff on his mind too. Yeah. I mean, listen- Yeah...
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the money's in the bank, I get it, Fez. I'm still trying to grind here- [laughs]... trying to build a bankroll, so I get it, buddy. Fez, Fez got his money in CDs- Yeah... and stuff, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
31:48
Yeah, like, that's like- [laughs]... you know, our buddy Randy, I'm sorry, Randy, to do this to you, when he s- that day when he said to me, "You know, that, um, Wells Fargo's got a really good deal."
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I said, "Well, oh, what's that, Randy?" "If you put 500,000 in, you get 10,000 out." [laughs] I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, time out." It's very- "500,000? What, what, what, what do you think this is?" Yeah...
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Jokity Joke Land? It's awesome. 500,000? Yeah, yeah, just 500,000 you put in there. Sorry, Randy. You'd also be the, you're also the type of guy that if you had 500,000, you'd be, you'd have it in cash.
32:14
You wouldn't even put it in the bank. No, but, but no, you know, listen, I, I always say this, and I, I repeat myself all the time.
32:20
I, yeah, you have to pay tax on sports betting when in situations where I'm beating these books, at the end of the year, I win more than I lose with these apps and stuff.
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You know, you have to pay tax on your wins, so, but, but- Well, well-... doesn't matter, though. The, uh, it's in action. Do you know how much money is in action every week at South Point? Oh.
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'Cause they don't, they don't move off the, the 10 cent. That's right. So I am betting so much money at South Point every week on those games around the three where they d- they don't charge the extra juice.
32:47
Uh, Circa, you know how much money you need in Circa? You know how much money you need in the Westgate?
32:50
This is, you need money in these apps, so it's, it's hard to, to juggle everything and live life, uh- Are you, are you a little surprised that 50 minutes, 5-0, 50 minutes before kickoff, it's not exactly packed yet here back here?
33:02
Well, like I just said to Gil during the break, all the stances up and all those, the things up- Yeah... like a Sunday, is it, is it gonna be crowded today? Oh, yeah. It will be.
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I'm not even thinking, you know what it is too, Gil? It's not all about the, people, everyone doesn't have families and stuff.
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People come to Vegas for, you know, uh, especially, you know, single people and, and it's, it, you know, p- family passes on like just happened to my family, your family.
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It, it's not a, a celebratory holiday for everybody, I get it. So that, this is, this place and sports books around town will be packed today, I'm sure. They will be. You're right. It's the calm before the storm. It is.
33:32
Yeah. It's a, it's about to be packed, that's for sure. Uh, on a Thanksgiving where I have one bet again on Green Bay, Bill is on it as well. We didn't talk before, and we're both on the Packers.
33:41
Um, I have a bet on the Lions now, minus nine and a half in the first game, but I got nothing, nothing on game two, and I don't think I will. In fact, I will tell you I won't. It's an ugly game. Yeah, it's an ugly game.
33:51
And I gave a prop out for the guys and girls. And a prop, that's right, that you gave earlier. Um, 20% of Survivor, how ex- like, is this consuming you now? No, but, but I'm, I'm gonna root for Detroit today. Yeah.
34:06
It's gonna consume- Detroit's a big game... it's gonna consume him. Then he'll talk about putting money in CDs. [laughs] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
34:21
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Uh, we get tweets at Beating The Book, and once again, I just, I'm, I'm so super grateful to everybody. Just, uh, you know, you come in Thanksgiving, you're like, "I don't know if we're gonna get any interaction today."
35:08
We got more interaction tod- more tweets today than I think we ever had before. Definitely. Couldn't keep up with them. Uh, Steve The Proxy @702SteveSports- Good guy... we love Steve, yeah. Good guy, good guy.
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He said, "Happy Thanks-" He helped me out last week. Did he? Yeah. He said, "Happy Thanksgiving. Three of the nicest and kindest people in the sports betting community. This hour is the best hour of the week.
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I'm thankful that VSiN put you guys back [laughs] in the real studio. Enjoy your holiday." You too, Steve. Thank you so much, uh, for that. You read the Larry Fresh one earlier. Yeah.
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This is from Get The Money Racing, "Great, uh, Thanksgiving Day morning with Gil and Bill. Have a great and profitable day." Yeah. Get the money. Jay Buckley, "Happy Turkey Day to the team. Bill, all the best.
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Was good seeing you this summer." Oh, good, good guy. Jay Buckley says hello. Very good guy. Oh, how about, how about this one? You know how ear- earlier in the last segment I was going, "How about that?"
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You remember when I was doing that? Yeah. It's a little tribute to Mel Allen. Of course. Uh, the old Yankees announcer used to do This Week in Baseball. This Week in, TWIB.
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Stu Kirshenbaum tweets in, "Gil is a former producer of This Week in Baseball." Oh, wow. "I very much appreciated the Mel Allen 'How about that?' Thanks for all the education and entertainment all year long."
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Oh, how cool. That is very cool. Very cool, Stu. Stu, very nice to meet you, thank you. The numbers guy, by the way, loved This Week in Baseball. Oh my God, it was great. And the music drove it home. Right.
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The closing music- Right... the music, yeah, it was fantastic. The numbers guys, Gil, I don't wanna see Crack's face if you read this tweet, "I've got way too much of my bankroll today on Jahmyr Gibbs anytime touchdown."
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[laughs] "Breaking Bill's cardinal rule," he said. Well, you know, the anytime touchdowns, the tough, they're, they're, they're a one-way bet, so they're, they're pretty tough to do, but I, I'm rooting for you.
36:33
Uh, Paul Nelson, "Happy Thanksgiving, Gil and Kelly. I agree that a green ba- ca- a green bean casserole," pardon me, "using canned green beans won't be that good. However, it is really good if you use fresh green beans.
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I made it yesterday, and is in the freezer until we get together on Saturday." And our own Matt Brown, "Thanksgiving is the 49ers of holidays. Super hyped, some pieces are aight, but mostly just disappointing."
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[laughs] It's the Thanksgiving Scrooge to end the show with the tweets. What's wrong with Matt? [laughs] Matt doesn't like Thanksgiving as much as most people? Okay. All right.
37:01
Um, which brings us to our G-BAANG best bets of the day, courtesy of G-BAANG, the official bank of VSiN, and we have a, uh, a bevy once again. Uh, I am on the Packers today, minus three, minus 125.
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That was my first reaction on guessing lines. I also added the Bengals on Sunday, minus two and a half, minus 122.
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I actually brought it down to the two and a half against the Steelers, and I'm on the Cardinals plus three and a half against the Vikings. Those are also, those also happen to be my three mega pod picks.
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And you may remember I also have Ashton Jeanty to win the Heisman, the Heisman Trophy, at plus 750, and added this morning the Lions minus nine and a half in the first game, which kicks off in 42 minutes.
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Uh, Lions and the Bears. I'm on the Lions minus nine and a half. Uh, Kelly, he is on, he, he does have a bet in the middle game. He's on CeeDee Lamb over six and a half receptions.
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He too is on the Packers minus three, he jumped on that, and on Sunday he's on the Falcons on the money line, he's laying the points with the Rams, and he is laying the five and a half.
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He got a good number against the Niners. We still don't know, do we, if it's gonna be Brock Purdy for the Niners. We don't have an idea about that. Uh, Cragman. Cragman gave out a prop and a play today. Yes. Yes.
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How about that? Malik Nabers over 68 and a half yards in the, uh, Giants-Cowboys game today, and he too is on the Packers. All three of us on the Packers. What could go wrong?
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And I'm so much anti, uh, Pittsburgh, as I said earlier too. Kelly, maybe you wanna put that on. Well, I don't know if that goes somewhere, but I am so much anti-Pittsburgh. I think they're frauds.
38:30
I don't think they'll continue to doing good in this division. They have a very tough schedule the next games. I just made a bet here, and, and literally, Gil, you can, you can read that. This is the same type of bet.
38:41
Mm-hmm. Um, I just showed it to Gil. A- yeah, should I say it? Yeah. Baltimore- Yeah... to win the division here at Circle minus 195. M- many books have minus 200. I hate laying two to one on things. I hate it.
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I think this is a really good bet. I'm with you. I just bet, I bet the max bet. I bet whatever they took just now, just to lay... I'm not gonna say the amount, but it's a very large bet.
39:01
Uh, I think Baltimore to win the division, it, it, laying two to one is a really good bet.
39:05
I think it's an anti-Steelers bet really, but- I am completely with you, and I promise you, all you Steelers fans out there, I did not put Bill up to that. Oh, no, no, no. He came up with that independently. Yeah.
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39:28
That's V-S-I-N.com/gbaang. Subject credit approval, terms and conditions apply. Uh, I wanna get back to this survivor thing. I don't wanna let this slide- Okay...
39:35
because I said to you, I, I was like, um, "Are you, are you going to be obsessed with this or are you currently obsessed?" You said you're not currently obsessed- No... but you're rooting for Detroit. Yeah. Okay.
39:45
But let's, let's be real. It's just me and you talking here. Um, at what point do you, Bill Krackomberger, okay, I get it, you bet every day, 365, you know, maybe 363 days a year, whatever it is. Yeah.
39:56
Like, like, like those of us- No, it's 365... have the DNA. It is 365? Yeah. I'm gonna say it's 363 for me. Okay. I think it was like one or two days where I don't know. Okay. Um,
40:05
you gotta be k- this is still money that would move your needle. Of course. So at what point here? Yeah. 'Cause this is week 13-A and 13-B.
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If you get through 13-B, are you, do you wanna tell us what the two teams were that they were deciding between on Sunday money, or would you rather not tell me? No, I- I- I'll, I'll, I'll, you know what?
40:21
For the team itself, I better not do it, because I don't wanna- Okay... you know, uh, ruin that. Okay. They, they asked me which one of, which one of two. But you, I agree with you that you shouldn't say anything.
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And I said, "Listen, guys, you guys are on your own. You got here on your own." Yeah. And they were like, "No, no, no, we really need help on this one." Okay. No.
40:33
So if you get through that, there are six, quote-unquote, 'cause there's a Christmas quirk, right? Yeah. There are six games left. Yes. Clear path to a- Do they have Kansas City left? They do.
40:44
Uh, it's a c- it's a clear path they have that looks unbelievable. Now that I've made the deal- Said every survivor player ever, though. Everybody says that, right? Maybe. "Oh, I was set up perfectly."
40:53
Well, no, I told you the other guy that- Yeah... that, that, you know, has, uh, you know, uh, y- if you have to pick the Packers or the Cowboys today- Oh, yeah, you're, yeah, it's tough...
41:01
um, you know, it's, it's, it's tough where anyone can win those games, even though we're on Green Bay. But what's amazing, I mean, like, if you're playing this game, so you're playing Circa Survivor- Yeah...
41:08
your entire h- you know, your entire strategy is anchored by Thanksgiving and Christmas. Yes. Yes. And so I wonder if peop- Here's my theory on this, right? 'Cause there are entries, again, we, we go through them again.
41:22
Five people were on the Cowboys today, and three are on the Packers, with obvious, obviously the two-day 13-A week, Thur- today and tomorrow for Circa. Obviously, the huge favorites are the Chiefs and the Lions.
41:33
So if you have them, you play one or the other. So it's, yeah, it's five on the Cowboys, three on the Packers, 29 on the Chiefs, and all 17 who had the Lions available to them on the Lions.
41:43
I'm wondering if the people who ended up with the Cowboys and Packers, and again, we don't know that all eight don't have the Chiefs or Lions, but w- let's say it's seven of them.
41:52
So someone might be str- you know, is using strategy, or six of them. May- maybe there's a couple who are using strategy w- keeping the Chiefs for Christmas.
41:59
But I wonder if there's a few of them, at least, five of them, let's say even, who the carnage was so dramatic the first five weeks that they said to themselves, "Self, this ain't getting to Thanksgiving, and so I'm gonna use the Chiefs and/or the Lions."
42:15
Wow. Yeah. Very interesting. I wonder. People could have thought that. Yeah. And, uh, like, like the other entry I was negotiating for, he didn't have any of the c- c- c- Christmas Day.
42:24
He only has the under- two underdogs available to pick. Oh, man. One was the Bears over Seattle, which I guess that's the one he's gonna use. Now s- it's, it's in Chicago.
42:33
I think Seattle's playing a little bit better now. I still think Seattle's gonna be a Two-point favorite in, in something like that, I would say. Um- Is that the Seahawks and the Bears?
42:43
Yeah, so you have, you have to pick the Bears. Can you imagine having that game? You imagine having to choose in that game for this? You, you know, it, it's, it's going to be the- It's gonna happen to somebody...
42:50
Kan- what, what is Kansas City at, if you're saving Kansas City, Kansas City at Pittsburgh, what do you think the line is? Kansas City at Pittsburgh. Kansas City at Pittsburgh? Um- You, you're guessing the lines.
42:58
You're better than me... it's gonna be short. It's gonna be short. It'll be Kansas City minus three and a half. I would say that's what we said, three and a half, four. Yeah. That's what I said.
43:05
Depending on what happens between now and then. Yeah. Yeah, so that, that's, you know, if you're saving Kansas City, obviously you're saving it for then.
43:11
But then again, my partner that was negotiating, he said, "Wait a minute. What? I don't care about Christmas right now. Okay, they have... You, let's get by these two weeks," 'cause this weekend's games, oh, boy.
43:21
It, it's easy to pick a 10-point favorite, but then again, we see what happened with Washington last week. These, these 10-point favorites, they go down. Oh. 14-point favorites- It's the NFL...
43:29
17-point favorites went down in the NFL two years ago. Yeah. So, um, but Sunday, boy. Oh, man. Sunday with the... Even my, my guys, what they have available. 'Cause there's only... The, the Bills are what?
43:41
Seven-point favorites against the Niners, give or take, and then there's only three other games that are higher than four or four and a half. Yes, and we don't have the Bills available, I'll tell you right now.
43:50
Yeah, you don't have the Bills available. No. That's why it's tough. That's why it's really tough. I'm gonna, I'm gonna guess you're choosing between the Broncos and somebody else. That's my guess.
43:59
Oh, no, the Broncos wasn't one of them. Really? No. Yeah. Oh, man. So yeah, [laughs] I'm giving everything away here. This one... No- Yeah... I'm just saying, that's how difficult this is. That's how difficult this is.
44:06
It's one thing if you can get through these two days, but come, come Sunday and Monday, good God. Yeah. And you know, but you're right though. Th- th- no, this is a lot of money even to me, of course. Of course it is.
44:15
Of course it is. Yeah. Even though I have swings on games that are 20 grand, but it doesn't matter. It, it's still a lot of money when it... because it's not 20,000 no more. The value, what's the word?
44:23
Intri- intrinsically? What- Intrinsic value, sure. Intrinsic value. Okay. [laughs] Well, anyway, that word, um- 2.8 million here, Bill, 2.8 million there, all of a sudden you got some real money. That's right. Yeah.
44:33
That's right. Yeah. And, and the value, the real value of the ticket being 264, and next week it's gonna go to more than that 'cause people are getting knocked out today. Thank you to you and yours.
44:42
Thank you all, uh, for listening to this show, uh, every day, but especially on Thanksgiving morning. Have a great Thanksgiving. And Bill, I wanna say to you, you come in here every Thursday.
44:52
We don't pay you a nickel- No, I get paid nothing... and you're here on Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you, my friend. Thanks. Thanks for free parking too now. Thank you, guys. You're very welcome. Appreciate it.
44:59
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