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Nov 28, 2025
A Numbers Game | November 28, 2025 | Hour 3
A Numbers Game | November 28, 2025 | Hour 3
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[upbeat music] The numbers told the story. They always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is the Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
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[laughs] Hour number three of the Numbers Game at VSiN, the Sports Betting Network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, Sirius XM channel 158. It's Gil Alexander.
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That right there is Kelly Bidlin, everybody, and it's football on a Friday. Ole Miss- That's right... and Mississippi State about to kick off.
0:25
This is the first time we've ever been here where I gotta, like, glare into the lights and try to watch football. Oh, yeah. We m- we might need to get some, uh, TVs on some games.
0:31
By the way, Ole, uh, Kelly, uh, we shouldn't be playing Christmas music, Bidlin over here, is listening to DMX Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Oh, that's a cla- Um, uh- That's a classic. Colin Murphy tweeted it in.
0:41
Colin Murphy might be Tweeter of the Week. The most famous reindeer of all. It's so good. I, I can't do a DMX. It's so good. It's worth watching every year. Colin's right. [laughs] I usually do. Um, all right.
0:53
Are we sure? Let's, let's complete Are We Sure here be- before we go on. By the way, JVT gonna join us a little later on here- That's right... momentarily, to talk, I don't know, anything he's betting these days. NBA?
1:01
Big NBA game, uh, slate tonight, man. NBA Cup. Full, full slate of NB- Ugh. NBA Cup. We're getting to it. It's on we- it's on Are We Sure. Oh. What would you thoughts? Oh, go ahead. Yeah. Okay. What's your thoughts?
1:13
Go ahead. Are we sure? We are. Okay. Are we sure? Yeah. Well, I got one more for college football. Yes, sir. We sure Indiana's the second-best team in the country? No. 5 to 1 to win the national championship.
1:23
Even though I have them at 10 to 1, I'm, I'm not sure they're the second-best team, no. Yeah. I wonder about that. Ge- Georgia is probably the second-best team. All right. Are we sure the NBA Cup was a good idea?
1:33
Okay, I would throw this back to you. I am not sure at all, because I'll tell you why. Because when this started, I was kind of interested. I was like, "Oh, what, what is, what is this whole Adam Silver character up to?"
1:43
Right? Mm-hmm. "Well, what's he doing? Oh, he wants to mimic, like, international, like, soccer, international soccer where they have these tournaments in the middle of seasons."
1:51
It's not a very American thing, but you know, it was, we had the semis at, in Vegas, right? We had the semis in Vegas. So I remember the first year I went, right? It was dark, it was cold in the gym.
1:59
I don't know why everyb- everybody had to wear a parka. I don't know what that was about. It was weird. Yeah. It was weird, but it was like, oh, it was a new thing. Okay. Yeah. And Indiana was really good.
2:06
They didn't win it in the end though, did they? No. No. Um, and now- Bucks that year? Now I, not only do I not care, I don't even, I'm not even curious. I'm fairly curious person. Yeah.
2:18
I'm not even curious to find out about the schedule when they... You know, I know, 'cause remember it was like, oh, each, each player gets $500,000. Like, I don't even seem to care about that anymore.
2:28
So- So no, I'm not sure it's a good idea, because I prob- I'm probably representative of many people. Yeah. And f- okay, so here's, here's the, the, the hardcore NBA guy take, right? Yeah.
2:40
And may- maybe I don't represent everybody, but I, I just can only speak for myself.
2:44
I was always worried when they were working out the details of how this was gonna work, that they were gonna make it too much like the s- uh, like the European soccer tournaments.
2:53
And I thought separating it in the middle of the season, i- e- especially for betting stuff, I think I, I would cause problems. I didn't like the idea of it.
3:01
I wa- I was happy to hear when they were gonna count all these as regular season games, along with cup games. The problem is, Gil, this is, and I would've s- I, I think in years past, I would've said, "I like it."
3:12
I, I, it's a little extra money, a little extra incentive for these guys to play for something mid-season. As long as they're counting for regular season games, why, who cares? It's not hurting anything, right?
3:22
I'll still say it's not hurting anything, but going into this week, I didn't know what the schedule was this week, and this, the, the, like, I think it's an innovative, smart idea if this thing matters that you made this week three of the four days were NBA Cup days.
3:37
But I didn't know that. If, like, I didn't know that, other people didn't know that. Right. And if you don't know that, you can't possibly care that much. So yeah. So yeah, I'm sure it's not a good idea. All right.
3:48
Are we sure the NBA champion is coming from the Northwest Division? Does the Northwest Division have OKC and Denver in it? Yes, they do. [laughs] And they're minus 120 at DraftKings. That I am sure. Me too.
4:01
Are we sure the NBA MVP race is down to three people? SGA, Jokic, and Luka. Yep. 'Cause I think you're out to- Ye-... like, 40 to 1 next- Yes... on Giannis, I think. Yes. I am sure. I, can I- It is crazy.
4:15
I saw some of the, I saw something here recently, and I, I found myself nodding to it. Someone was saying, if they had to draft, let's say, okay, you have the entire history of the NBA.
4:26
I think this was Stan Van Gundy who said this. The question was posed to him, you have the entire history of the NBA and you get to do a draft right now. Who's your number one pick? You're starting a team right now.
4:38
Obviously- Mm-hmm... you know, you know, Larry Bird isn't 60 years old or whatever, however old he is. Like, we're not doing it that way. But in their prime, you get to pick a n- you get to make a number one pick.
4:48
And he said, "It's Nikola Jokic. He's the greatest player in the history of the sport." And, and, and it's hard, it's hard to argue with the premise. It's crazy how much the game's evolved, right? Right.
5:00
And that's where it's, it, it's, I'm not a bi- Look, I'm an MJ guy. I'm not a big fan of the MJ/LeBron comparison because I think of the different eras and different styles of play and everything.
5:09
It, it, but it is Jo- it's Jokic. It's Jokic. Jokic is the answer. The, the, I think what I was starting to think about, I didn't know where you were going with this at first.
5:17
The bigger question to me is how far down do guys like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Giannis Antetokounmpo already rank? Yeah. I don't know. He, he was saying, you know, he goes, he, he did it very logically.
5:28
He's like, "Listen, with track and field, we understand that as generations go, the times get broken." Mm-hmm.
5:36
As, as the years go on, as the decades go, all these records get broken, um, whether it's track and field- Right. Yes... whether it's swimming, whatever. Sure. So why shouldn't we then- We should...
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apply that to basketball- We should... right, and say, well, these players are obviously better athletes than what used to be. Now, I'm a Jordan guy.
5:51
I still say that Jordan's, you know, inte- you know, his core mattered and he could beat any of these guys. I, I think- That's a different discussion. Right. It's a different discussion. Right?
5:58
But, but the e- the evolution of what became Nikola Jokic is he'd be the number one pick in an all-time NBA draft. There's just not, when you, when you- Yeah... start going back decades- Yeah...
6:08
there's just nobody in those decades that you would expect to have a skill set like him, therefore, how are you stopping him? And that's the other one. That's why I even bring up Giannis, right?
6:18
In the mid-'90s Giannis, d- what he could do defensively and offensively, like he'd be a nightmare. Right. I used to say when the Warriors were winning championships, and people were like, "What do you think?
6:28
Showtime Lakers versus, versus the, uh, the four-time champion Warriors?" And I'd be like, "You can say the Showtime Lakers, you old schoolers," but as soon as those guys saw Kevin Durant coming down court- Mm-hmm.
6:39
Right, exactly. Yeah... and his height shooting from that distance, they w- their heads would explode. Yeah, yeah. That's absolutely right, man. They wouldn't know what they were looking at.
6:45
There's also certain things that like, like Durant, like Steph Curry- Yeah... like MJ, like Kobe. Yeah. Just the- Yeah... the clutchness, the shot. Like that's, that's never changing, right?
6:55
That, that travels across eras. Anything else? That was a fun break. Uh, college basketball real quick. Are we sure that Michigan should be the favorite to win the NCAA tournament? Okay.
7:02
We did not make enough of this because- Yeah... we were too busy talking NFL. 40-point win. But I, I brought this up with, uh, was it, was it Matty Cox I brought this up with?
7:10
I can't even remember who I brought it up with. Well, we talked about Greg, with Greg this week about it. So, so the p- Oh, maybe it was Greg. So the p- Yeah, it was Greg. That's exactly who I brought it up with.
7:17
So the Players Era Tournament, which was a fakakta tournament, they didn't even have a bracket. It was just stupid the way they did it. But Michigan ended up beating Gonzaga in I min- They, they beat Gonzaga by 40.
7:28
Michigan won their three games by a combined 110 points in this tournament. Wow. And Gonzaga, before that game, we were like, "Oh man, this is one of the greatest Gonzaga teams of all time."
7:39
I think Matty Cox had them ranked second in the country in his rankings. And I'm like this, "Where does this Gonzaga team stack up?" And then Michigan goes... That game was over in 15 minutes.
7:50
So yes, I'm kinda sure they should be one right now, with apologies to everybody else, but good God, what was that? Yeah, man. So they're, yeah. They rolled. I'm, I'm sure.
8:01
Now, that could obviously can change between now and the actual mar- and the actual Big Dance, but right now, pssh, stop it. They're number one with that performance. All right, let's go through it.
8:11
Remaining games this year- this week. By the way, Philly and Chicago again today, we've talked about. I don't have a play in ph- in the Eagles and Bears today. Do you?
8:19
I have the Eagles in a teaser leg with the Seahawks from Open. I have said throughout the week, including yesterday, that I was, as the week went on, I was going more and more to the Bears side.
8:29
I think with the, the weather details that we have this morning and the wind, I'm kinda back off that Bears side. This would be kinda nothing for me. This total is on the move.
8:40
44 and a half we saw out there this morning, mainly down to 43 and a half. 43s out there.
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I guess Bear, Bears style of play makes this hard to make too low, but still a few hours till kickoff, so see where the, where this ends up going. I don't think, if you're looking,
8:56
I don't think the Eagles are a bad teaser leg this week. And again, for, for Circus Survivor people, for Grandissimo, three, there were six heading into, uh, the Thanksgiving quirk, three lost on the Ravens yesterday.
9:07
If the Eagles win, three move forward. If the Eagles lose, it's over in Grandissimo. Six chop. They br- they, they split the final pool. Mm-hmm.
9:16
Uh, in Circus Survivor Classic, if the Eagles win today, there will be 510 entries left heading into the weekend, which is his own week, Mon- uh, Sunday, Monday. If the Eagles lose, we will be down to 49.
9:32
If they tie, everyone loses, we'd be down to 21. That's where we are with that. Geez, man. That is wild. All right? So, and we know every- everybody we know is on the Eagles, right? Um, yes.
9:46
Certainly the person I'm invested in is, is an Eagles guy. I know Joe P. is on the Eagles. Yep. I know Isaiah's on the Eagles. I know Matty Brown is on the Eagles, right? Mm-hmm. Everybody's on the Eagles. Okay. Mm-hmm.
9:55
What could go wrong? All right. I'm sure that'll be fine. To Sunday. Let's go to Sunday. Uh, this is the early window on a Sunday. We'll get a couple games in here before the, uh, break. What do you wanna start with?
10:05
Texans at Colts. All right. Well, Dr. Bob was just on. He's on the Colts, minus three and a half. Colts look to, uh, right the ship.
10:13
Colts fan Jonathan Von Tobel in just in, in a little while to talk about this game as well. Oh, yeah. You know what? I was thinking yesterday while we were on, 'cause he was hopping on right after us.
10:20
We got, yeah, we gotta get his thoughts on this, uh, Daniel Jones-Colts situation. I, man, it was... I've been leaning Texans' way. I don't like hearing that Bob's on the Colts. This is down to three and a half, though.
10:32
I lo- I was interested when it was at four and a half. I was maybe gonna put it in a little bid and teaser, where I'd take the four and a half up to 10 and a half, but I think it's gonna be a stay away from me now.
10:40
All right. Next game on the, uh, early Sunday window. Again, uh, with four games that will be in the rear view, so it's a, uh, sparser slate on Sunday, of course. Cards at Bucs. Cards at Bucs.
10:52
This is, you know, this is one of these games where... They have Jacoby Brissett. Do we, do we... We don't know about Baker Mayfield yet, do we? He has practiced. He has practiced. He pr- he practiced today.
11:01
He practiced yesterday. Baker Mayfield, who has never missed a start with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. One would not expect him to miss a start based on pain tolerance, and that's what this is.
11:11
He had a low-grade sprain in the non-throwing shoulder. So you would expect him to play. This is a three-point spread.
11:15
This is what it should be 'cause that is, that is my way of saying the market has no idea what's gonna happen in this game. I don't either. Yeah. We're, we opened, look ahead was six, five and a half, six.
11:28
Said this earlier in the week, I guess I still feel this way. If you don't think he's gonna be that affected by the shoulder injury, three feels like pr- a pretty nice discount on the Bucs. But nothing for me.
11:37
We'll get to the rest of the games on the other side. JVT will join us as well. Ole Miss, Mississippi State. Let's get it on the TV so I can stare into the glaring lights here on top. Let's do that.
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See site for details. I'm pumped, man. I think we got some in the mail heading our way. I'm looking forward to it.
13:33
Don't know if I've brought this up before, but I'm a little bit more of a [tongue click], you know, a little bit more active lifestyle these days, Gil, in the, uh, in the gym, and need that protein, man.
13:42
[laughs] Bring it, Omaha. Come on. Ole Miss, took 'em less than two minutes to go up seven to nothing on Mississippi State.
13:47
Trinidad Chambliss to, uh, Harrison Wallace for 34, setting up, uh, or helping to set up Kwon Wallace, 31. Seven to nothing, Ole Miss, in what could be, could be Lane Kiffin's last, uh, game coaching the Rebels.
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By the way, coincidentally as well, we get a tweet here. This is from, uh, let's see here. This is from Zach Abelverde, who is a senior writer at Gators Online.
14:13
Says, "Sources Florida does not expect to land Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin, and is cl- uh, and Florida's closing in on other target, other targets because of that."
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He said, "In recent days, sources said Kiffin's erratic communication and behavior has led the University of Florida to think he may be more interested in his other options." Yeah, man. There you go. Sorry, Florida.
14:34
Think you were always used as the, uh- I never thought he was going there... wh- what do you call the, the, the negotiating, uh, uh, the third party to help boost the conversation? Yeah. Yeah. The salary conversation?
14:45
Yeah. Yeah, that's where you, that's where you came in. Yep. Uh, let's go to a couple more of these, or all the rest of these games in NFL week number 13. In the National Football League, we pick up where we left off.
14:55
What's next? The Jaguars at Titans. Did you say Jaguars? Yeah. [laughs] That's how they pronounce it on the, uh, Jaguar commercials? Mm-hmm. Wow. That's how us classy people pronounce it. Cardinals team.
15:05
Um, Jaguar, say it again. Jaguars or- Jaguars at Titans. Okay. Um, Jaguars are favorite here by six. This is gonna be, for those who are lucky enough to get through Survivor,
15:16
in the circuit case, whether that's over 500 people or whether that's less than 50, whichever one it, it ends out to be, some are gonna take the Jaguars here, um, at minus six at the Titans. It terrifies me.
15:29
I w- I just... That will be a miserable experience, I believe, on Sunday. Now, I'm not betting it either way. I'm just worried for Survivor players who get through and decide to go that way. You, sir, any play?
15:40
No, nothing here, although I am a little surprised this, [laughs] this, this does keep, uh... Where was your guessing lines number at, five and a half? Uh, on this game? Yeah. This is coming down to your line, I believe.
15:51
This would be... I'll tell you what my guess was. There was seven, six and a halves. We're down to six everywhere pretty much now. Yep. Yeah, my guess was,
15:59
on that game, well, my guess was the Jaguars minus seven- Oh, okay... was my guess. I was the other way. Never mind. Yeah. All right. Not, not the typical Titans guess. All right. No. Rams at Panthers.
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Rams, 10 and a half point road favorites. Uh, this will be a big, uh, Survivor play. For those who haven't left, we, we also have to go to the, uh, the K Flow stats on who has what left.
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Um, so for those who do, that'll be a play. Rams, 10 and a half point favorites to the Panthers, total 45. No play for me on this one. Yep. [laughs] I can't do anything with this game. Yeah. I think
16:34
the Rams, I, like, I think the Rams could absolutely roll in this game. Is it the West Coast team heading east early, and you think you're just in a spot that's an easy, easy win, then good Bryce Young shows up?
16:45
Yeah, that wouldn't shock me either. [laughs] It gets, uh... Getting an terse versa tweet here. Yeah. Cancer Free from Stage Four says, "Not that we need confirmation, but Fezzik is soft.
16:55
Crap ke- crack kept his regular Thursday appearance even though it was Thanksgiving, yet Fezzik can't come in the day after? He's soft." If you, if you get- Yeah...
17:03
if you could've seen me laugh as soon as he excha- [laughs]... uh, returned my text message, I was just like immediate deja vu from a year ago. I was like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, he's shocked we're working."
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Rick Olea, "You guys are trying to tell me that aliens haven't been officially named by the government? Have they not been listening to Wish Nev Wednesdays and Fezzik Fridays? The evidence is right there."
17:19
[laughs] Just kid- just kidding. We all love Toddy and Fez. Next. All right, next up we have the Saints at the Dolphins. Okay. Again, Dolphins potential Survivor play.
17:30
Good God, could you imagine getting this far and losing on them? Six point favorites hosting the, uh, the Saints. Down to five and a half most places. All right. Down to fi- this one's come down a little bit.
17:38
Oh, we're even showing five here- Yeah... consensus. I might bet this one. Yeah, I mean, that, that falls under the category of should the Dolphins be six point favorites against anybody, and the answer's no. Yeah.
17:46
And the Saints, while they stink, don't stink to high heavens, you know what I mean? I don't know. The s- we've seen a little uptick from the Dolphins here. They're coming off a bye. I mi- I, I definitely lean that side.
17:59
I might end up betting this. I have not yet, but if, if they wanna take Saints money and keep dropping this number down, I'm in no rush to bet it 'cause, yeah, it was what? Six. Did we even see six and a halves?
18:09
I don't think so. Okay. There was six though. Uh, sixes though earlier in the week. Also in the early window, Falcons at Jets. Oh, it keeps getting better. Falcons two and a half point favorites at the Jets. Good God.
18:21
All right, if you, if I, if you had no money on this game, if you had no money on this game and no money on the Dolphins-Jets- Oh, gosh, I love this question...
18:27
how much would I have to pay you for you to sit through any of those games? You're not allowed to eat during each broadcast either.
18:31
Okay, Dolphins, Dolphins-Saints is more entertaining, so this would be, to me it is at least, so this would be the real question one. Um- Falcons-Jets, the whole game, every play, no bets. Commercials too?
18:42
No food Gonna watch commercials? Gotta watch. Well, yeah, sure. I'm allowed to drink alcohol. N- no. Yeah, that's where y- you should've said no. Yeah. Um- Well... $700. Hmm. Interesting.
18:58
I'm not offering it to you, I'm just curious. Every man has his price. That a- that actually feels light now that I said it. Um, Falcons two and a half. Boy, I got nothing on this.
19:05
39- I'd probably bail halfway through and give you your money back. [laughs] Nine... [laughs] Here, take it. I can't do it. Niners and Browns. Niners down to five.
19:11
Speaking of money, money in on Shedeur and the Cleveland Browns. This was six earlier in the week. It's five now. F- anywhere from four and a half to five and a half, right? Wow.
19:22
That dead zone on the board you can find right now, 35 and a half to 36 and a half, your total. Kill. Yeah. I think this is another one I'm gonna end up betting. I don't love it.
19:34
To, I mean, going under a total this low is always scary, but we're... You're talking the combination of potential weather, wind- Oh, I'm-... in Cleveland. I'm looking at it right now. Sh- Rain to snow/wind on Sunday.
19:48
Yeah. And then, and then Shedeur Sanders is your quarterback, and then you have one of, if not the best, defenses in the NFL. Yeah. This, that's, that's a weather move.
19:59
That is a big under combination between that defense, Shedeur, and that weather. 36 is your current total at FirstEnergy Stadium.
20:08
Uh- That's the only thing I would consider playing in this game, and I am considering playing it. Remember those games in Cleveland?
20:12
It was that game where we saw the field goals, the, they'd kick it- That was a crazy story... halfway to the goalpost. It would just take a hard right. Was it Steelers? I always guess the Steelers.
20:19
I think it was, I think it was the Raiders. I don't even know football. I think it was the Raiders game. Oh, y- you know [laughs]. Yeah. That's e- that's, that's what it was. [laughs] Yeah. Pretty much.
20:24
I always guess Steelers and someone corrects me on Raiders. Next. All right, next up, we have the Vikings and the Seahawks. All right, this one I do have a bet on. I have the Seahawks minus 10.
20:33
We're up to minus 12 and a half. It's minus 10, minus 120 for me after I split the two games yesterday. I lost on the Lions, won on the Bengals. Caleb Eidlon hit both of those games. He had the Packers and the Bengals.
20:45
I'm on the Seahawks. This is the only Sunday bet I have made so far, although Dr. Bob may have me on the Colts here momentarily. But Seattle, to me, look, it's Max Brosmer. That might not even be a downgrade from J. J.
20:56
McCarthy. I just don't know how the Seahawks are gonna be stopped, and I don't know how the Vikings are scoring. Uh, yep, this is almost everything I have on Sunday. This is a big, big, uh, game for me.
21:07
Bet the late eight with Seahawks at open, and then multiple teasers. Uh, brought up the Eagles earlier. I do have them tied in with the Seahawks. I also have the Niners from Monday night. That cashed already.
21:17
And then the Patriots on Monday night. I didn't even actually answer the question. I... The other teaser leg that I like this week is that Jets one. Okay. Take the Jets up to eight and a half. They're at home.
21:28
You got a total that low. I, I do like them as a teaser leg this week.
21:31
By the way, again, the big thing for me also on the Seahawks is that Christian Darrisaw and Donovan Jackson, the entire left side there of the, uh, Vikings' offensive line, they didn't practice yesterday either. Um,
21:43
so... Or excuse me, Wednesday, they didn't practice. So I don't know. Darrisaw's got a foot. Jackson's got an ankle. They're also injured in both of those, uh, areas of their body, not just having a foot and an ankle.
21:54
[laughs] Um- I like that you picked up on that. [laughs] Yeah. So I don't know. I, to me, it's just, you know, we'll see if they're limited in practice today.
22:02
We'll see what the story is with those two guys, but that can't help. I like when I get Gil Alexander on, uh, Kelly's side about something. I got a- Dude, injury... I got a- Injury... I got a groin.
22:10
[laughs] He's got a knee, he's got an ankle. Injury. Bills three point favorites at the Steelers. Huge implications for both teams now. Yes. Especially the Steelers, who if they win, will be atop the AFC North.
22:23
If they lose, you know, it's a tie with Baltimore. Here's the thing in the AFC North, too. Baltimore still plays Pittsburgh twice. Mm-hmm. Big news coming down on this game today. Um, saw it from Schefter.
22:34
Matt Brown just texted me as well. Bills have ruled out both starting tackles, Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown. Also, Tre'White Bernard and Curtis Samuel will be out for the game.
22:45
Dalton Kincaid has been upgraded throughout the week, though he is questionable, uh, for the game right now. Reminder, Josh Allen sacked a career high eight times last week. Yes. I'm in on the Bills.
22:55
You're in on the Bills. [laughs] What's new? I don't like, I don't like that report. What's new? Um, next. All right, next up we have Raiders at the Chargers, 425 Eastern. Chargers favored by nine and a half.
23:04
This will probably be the most popular survivor play, but there's only... I believe there's only 125 entries of the remaining 500 plus that are currently alive that have the Chargers even available to them.
23:16
So it can't be that high. You know what? I think this is my answer for the game I want nothing to do o-, uh, with this week. Me too. Me too. Big spread. Sunday. Broncos and Commanders.
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Broncos five and a half, six-point road favorites. Probably gonna be Mariota. Five and a half. Commanders took a little money. I don't like anything here. Yeah, me neither. Monday night, Giants at the Patriots.
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Patriots seven, seven and a half-point home favorites. I think the Giants to cover here is pretty live. Ooh, I like the Patriots in a teaser. But it is Jaxson Dart. Looks like we'll have Jaxson Dart back. Jaxson Dart.
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Early, 5:40 left in the, uh, first quarter, as I, uh, stare into the sun. But Ole Miss matriculating the ball down the field In what may or may not be Lane Kiffin's last game coaching Ole Miss.
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By the way, speaking of- Ole Miss, uh, nine and a half live... nine and a- I predict a touchdown's about to be scored, Gil. [laughs] Is that what you predict? That's what I predict.
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Based on, based on that line adjustment? I'm just, no, I'm just, you know, I'm just, uh, got my magic eight ball over here looking into the future. Ole Miss at the, uh, plus 24. And, uh, there you go, Kelly Bidley.
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Eh, there it is, touchdown. Touchdown, Ole Miss. Yep, touchdown. There you go. That's what you do, boys and girls. You see the, uh, the, uh, the line move and you're like, "Oh, nine and a half.
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Hmm, I wonder what happens here." No, I actually like that- Was it saying their s- live score above the... Yeah. Yeah, I actually like that the sports books have gotten far enough they didn't even just post the score.
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It was- Yeah, so I saw 13-7. Um, 14 or 13-7 pending the extra point here, 14-7 I guess if you're looking at your, uh, your app there. By the way, this one from Purple Kevin. Purple Kevin at 11:11. Kevin Stott 11.
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He goes, "Great job on the Falica interview pressing where Kiffin is going. Great journalism." Thank you very much. Yeah, journalism over here on The Numbers Game. Yeah, journalism/selfish bettor. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. I just wanna know if I was gonna win my bet or not. He was gonna say, yeah, not like he had anything riding on it. Yeah. Apparent- apparently I'm gonna lose it. [laughs] That's what I'm told.
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That, that was my favorite, uh, in the, in the moment breaking news that we didn't mean to break. Yeah. I don't even know, but news. It's not even news yet. It's not official. Yeah. I could tell when Falica- Report...
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dances around what he, he... He's not trying to admit to anything, but he was admitting to something there. So. Yeah, and then you pressed him on it. Yep. Yep. And it's- JVT joins us now, ladies and gentlemen.
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Uh, that is why Kelly is cozied up next to me. It's not 'cause he likes me. Uh, we got three people in the studio.
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Jonathan Von Tobel, co-host of Money Moves, which he does weekdays here with Stormy Bonatony, of course, joining us now in studio. Kind enough to do so. How you doing, man? Happy Thanksgiving. Uh, pretty good.
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Happy Thanksgiving. You know, doesn't feel like, um, it's weird, like we're in this nexus 'cause you guys worked yesterday too. Yes.
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But don't feel like it's a work day or a work week, but I also don't feel like it's a holiday either. Oh, I know.
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So it's just kind of this weird endless void of like, yeah man, like just coming in and watching some sports and hanging out, dude. I, the, Thanksgiving feels like a Friday. Yeah.
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So, like, you have to, like, remind yourself. You're like, "Oh, I gotta go to work tomorrow again. I forgot there's a day in between." Um, there is a whole bunch of NBA today. Are you firing away on the NBA slate?
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Actually didn't really have much today. I know there's a lot of injuries, but I will say, uh, I'm ready to get punished again on one of these. Um, Chicago and Charlotte will play today.
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Chicago is a two and a half point favorite, total's 249. I took a shot on Charlotte the other day against the New York Knickerbockers. It did not go well. Uh, they did not cover. I'm ready to get hurt again.
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So we'll come back here. I'm sitting over here smiling- Yeah. [laughs]... 'cause I stared long and hard at this one too. Yeah.
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Um, well, I mean, the, the, the simplistic analysis here is, like, I thought the Hornets would be much better than what they've shown. Injuries have been part of it. Miller's back.
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So I'm gonna kind of chip away one more time to see if maybe they're gonna start to look like the team I expected them to be, uh, when fully formed.
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And Chicago, I think, i- is a much more, uh, uh, we'll call it a doable challenge here. Uh, there's a lot of questionables. Kevin Huerter's questionable. Nikola Vucevic is questionable. Coby White, Patrick Williams.
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So we'll see if those guys end up playing. If they don't, I'm not gonna cry. It would help me out here, but I think Charlotte's gonna be live tonight potentially, and we'll see if my experiment works out here.
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Were, were the Hornets your drive to 30 team? Yes, yes. The drive- Yep... yes. The march to 30. All, all, all of the hardwood handicappers are on this, right? Yeah. I believe we're all on it. All, all of them are.
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Including Stormy Bonatony's father, uh, Rich Bonatony. And, um- I said all the hardwood handicappers. Yeah... that's right. And, uh, we- [laughs] Yesterday we did an exercise.
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We were checking in with all the Vs and hosts- Yeah... you know, throughout their Thanksgiving, giving the spreads, and so we checked in with Stormy.
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And, um, [clears throat] as I mentioned to her, you know, politics are often brought up during Thanksgiving dinners. It's a touchy subject. Yeah. The Charlotte Hornets win total was the touchy sub- [laughs]...
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subject at the, uh, the Bonatony household, and I heard it from Rich in the background when he's like, "Uh, my best bet's certainly not the Hornets." And I was like, "All right, sorry."
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[laughs] [laughs] Four and 14, by the way. Oh, man. Seven game losing streak for Charlotte. That was the only one for today? Everybody's healthy. Yeah, so far. I mean, uh, really it's a, it's kind of more about football.
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We got, uh, obviously this Black Friday game coming up in a little bit. Uh, looking ahead to the weekend, I've got a lot more.
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Um, around this time of year, feast week, I call, like, catch up with college basketball week, and then, like- Yeah... really get into football and libations.
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Uh, you- Oh, I watched more college basketball yesterday than I have all year- Yeah... and probably will until March Madness. I was gonna say. [laughs] You're, you're a Vegas guy. Yeah.
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They, they botched this Playrs here tournament, didn't they? Like, what are they doing? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it, you know, it sucks too because I s- I heard Matt Youmans and Will Hill talking about it.
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You, the, around this time you usually have so many good tournaments. Um, and then I don't wanna be, like, for the love of the game guy, right?
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But it does kind of disrupt everything when it's like, "Hey, come grab all of this money. Let's go." And, um, then the format is as wonky as it is. Can we just, uh- Yeah... what, what happened to the bracket?
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It's just the bracket. Yeah. What's wrong with a bracket? I'm with you. Like, just set it up. Yeah. And the cool part about it is they set it up like the Maui Invitational, where you have all the teams- Yeah...
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and you have a loser's bracket and a winner's bracket, and you go and you play for the money. Um, I thought that was it. Now, it was an incredible run for Michigan. That was a dud. Unbelievable.
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That was one of the m- most incredible things I've ever seen. Um, but that was kind of a dud considering the excitement around it and the programs in it. You saw they are gonna change the format, right? I- oh, they are.
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Oh, they are? They are. It, it took, oh, it took them, like, I think it took them, like, all of three hours of after- Right... whatever day you guys were raging about it, like Tuesday or Wednesday or something.
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I think they, I think they announced it after games later that night. Well- A Deborah Song fashion stylist, right?
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We were watching all the Alabama games 'cause, 'cause, uh, Houston's dad's our buddy, and uh, she's like, "Well, why are they playing if they already declared a championship?" I'm like, "Exactly."
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They're playing games after. I didn't even know that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just saw the part about them, like, not knowing who was playing what games by midnight, like the night before.
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Oh, and Alabama started a game at, like, 9:20 Pacific. Hey, man, they were playing UNLV, all right? Kinda. That didn't go so well for UNLV, I guess. Uh, let m- so college football. [laughs] College football.
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Your favorite college football plays today or tomorrow, what do you got? Uh, let's see. Well, I do have...
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So this is probably a terrible habit to get into, but last week we had this stupid, um- 13 leg, 10 team, uh, 10-point teaser that we put in and hit. So- So, no, I, I fully- Yeah... support this. Go ahead, JBT. Yeah...
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so, so we're back to the well again. We've got a couple today, including teasing down Utah. Only laying one and a half with the Utes today, so we're into this.
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Uh, but college football-wise, I will say I think there's a couple. I do like New Mexico, uh, later today against San Diego State. Um, you know, Stormy and I talked about this earlier this week.
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From a power rating standpoint, I don't think there's that much separating San Diego State and, um, New Mexico. I think they're relative equals to each other.
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There's probably an argument to be made that you're not giving New Mexico any home field, 'cause this number was in San Diego State's favor out in Albuquerque.
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Uh, but I think this should probably be about a pick or New Mexico minus one and a half.
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San Diego State has been a team that when they have faced opponents that can actually throw a forward pass, uh, they are not exactly the dominant defensive group- [laughs]... that their metrics would paint.
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Uh, if you look at their list of opposing t- um, offenses, it has been a who's who of some terrible offenses that the Aztecs have faced. So I like New Mexico. They're a really well-coached team.
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And, uh, this is a really big game because New Mexico wins, and they get to host San Diego State for a Mountain West Conference championship, essentially.
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So this is a really big game between the two of them, but I went with New Mexico today for sure. All right, we just had Dr. Bob in here. Uh- I was listening... he gave us, yeah, he gave us, uh, your Colts- Yeah...
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minus three and a half. Not worried about the leg, huh? Not worried about the fibula. That's what we were gonna ask you. Yeah. Yeah. Fibula. Yeah. Yeah, if there was more time, I would've said, "What about the fibula?"
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[laughs] But I didn't, you know, I didn't wanna be rude or anything, um, and interrupt. W- where do you stand? Let's get a Colts heat check from a Colts fan. Where do you stand on them right now?
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I mean, I think they're... So I've been saying this. We have our pod to the futures with Mitch Moss and I, wherever you get your podcasts.
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And for the last few weeks, I've been saying, and this was actually going into the Chiefs game post by, if you were gonna start to short the Colts in, like, a bunch of different markets, now is gonna be the time to do it.
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And this was before the Daniel Jones injury. It's just the schedule is incredible for them.
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The Chiefs game, which they lost, they still have these two games against the Texans, two games against the Jags, two games against NFC West opponents as well.
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Remember, they have the Seahawks and the 49ers on the schedule too. I think this might be the start of a slip down the standings. Now, I still think they can win the division.
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I think they can split these six games and essentially just win the AFC South by default because they got such a big lead. The problem is that lead really isn't as big as you think it is. Right.
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The Jags are sitting at seven wins. The Texans are sitting at six. So it makes these games all that more vital. But I don't know if you guys watched the footage of him practicing yesterday. He doesn't look good- No...
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Daniel Jones. He, he doesn't look like he's putting weight on that leg. A hitch in his giddyup. Yeah. Uh, if you watch- Yeah...
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if you go back and just watch the highlights of the Colts game against the, uh, Chiefs, he has an early first quarter run where it looks like he's limping to the sideline.
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He's just not really the same guy, and I think that's gonna be a big problem for a dude who, as he's, as well as he's played, he actually played that well, if you actually, like, dive into the numbers.
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You know, he's been asked to like, "Hey, here's this Ferrari- That's right... just, like, just let- Game manager. Yep... off the brake and don't do anything." That point needs to be made.
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He's not the reason they're doing- Yeah, correct... what they're doing. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. So, but he can be the reason, as we've seen in many games, that they lose these games. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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We saw it in the Steelers game. We saw it in a couple of others. And so now when you're facing a, a team like this, and, you know, I, I heard Dr.
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Bob's breakdown of, you know, the pass rush numbers for the Houston Texans. I think if you really dive into it, one of the things that has stuck out, Daniel Jones has actually been under pressure quite a bit.
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He's actually a top 10 quarterback in terms of total dropbacks under pressure. But he's performed so well on those dropbacks that it's almost, it's gotta come back to the pack at some point, and it has. Yeah.
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Over the last three games, he's committed, I think, 11 turnover-worthy plays. He's been awful under pressure, and I think he's gonna get a ton of that here. And by the way, you can't move.
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So if you're gonna be under pressure and you can't escape it, how bad is it gonna be? So I t- all this to be said, I played the Texans plus four and a half early in the week. [laughs] You did. You did. Yeah. Yeah, okay.
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So I, I think that, I think that they're gonna be pretty live- Yeah... here to take them down. Uh, your favorite single NFL bet of the weekend is? I think it's probably the Texans, if you can still get it. Okay.
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I'd also say I really like the Saints, and I do like the Raiders, if you're gonna get that 10, which is popping up there- Wow... against the Chargers. Yeah. You, you- Wow...
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you are really setting yourself up for a fun Sunday. Good. Uh, it's gonna be absolutely great. But I'd say, you know, like- [laughs]... I'm pretty good at this. I just...
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You know, the market with both of these teams has been swinging all over the place with the power rating. They can't really figure it out. Last week, the Saints were better than the Falcons.
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This week, they're six points worse than the Dolphins. Same thing with the, the Raiders. I think we're just kind of trying to find our middle here, you know? Yeah. Quite the NFL season. Yeah.
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Uh, you and Stormy at the top of the hour, or is it just you today? No, Sto- just me. Just me today. Just you. Stormy's got Stanford and, uh, Notre Dame this weekend. That's where she's off to. Yeah.
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Oh, I th- I thought she was still arguing- Ooh... with her dad at the, uh, Thanksgiving table. No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. What, what game is she at? Stanford game? Yeah, Stanford. All right, Stormy on the sidelines.
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JBT in at the top of the hour. We're coming back. We'll recap all the bets next right here on the Numbers Game at VSAN, the sports betting network.
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Back on the Numbers Game live from Circle Resort Casino, downtown Las Vegas. Gil Alexander and Kelly Fidley.
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Back in the day, uh, Kelly, Matt Brown, and I used to do a little show called Prime Time Action where we were actually on air during games. Mm-hmm.
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I would do a Numbers Game in the morning, solo, solo yolo, and then, uh, I would come back later in the day and we'd do Prime Time Action, and we would have to update the scoreboard.
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You wanna do that for old time's sake? Hey, let's do it for old time's sake, and we've got some college football games going right now, so let's get everybody caught up. How about let's start with some action.
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Kent State and Northern Illinois. Northern Illinois seven to three in the second quarter. Just getting started with the second there.
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Northern Illinois three and a half point live favorites, 45 and a half your live total. Utah and Kansas. David T just said he was in on Utah, right? Uh, Utah's got, has, has got all they can handle with Kansas here.
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Yeah, no bueno so far. Seven to three Kansas. We are into the second quarter there. 12 minutes left to go in the first half. Utah five and a half point live favorites, 52 and a half your live total. Ohio and Buffalo.
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Ohio with a seven-nothing lead in that game three minutes into the second quarter. Live numbers currently off the board. Ole Miss 14-seven lead over Mississippi State. There you go, Gil Alexander.
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16 and a half point live favorites are Ole Miss. Your total, 73 and a half. Second quarter just about to get started. Iowa, 10 to seven lead over Nebraska. Hawkeyes are a five and a half point live favorite.
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49 and a half your live total. 3:50 left to go in the first quarter of that game Um, these updates brought to you by... Oh, no one. Insert sponsor. Yeah.
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Um, I also have Ole Miss in the first half here as well, but, uh...
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Y- you ever do this when you, when you are on a, uh, in a, in a football game that you, uh, you think of it in terms of you're never comfortable until you're out of the freak play cover range? Mm-hmm.
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So yeah, I just want Ole Miss to add, add one more score, [clears throat] so I can get, uh, out of that range for the cover. Ole Miss minus seven for full game. Seahawks minus 10 on Sunday.
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Those are my plays that are pending. And of course, survivor implications today in a couple hours. Go birds.
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Between the Eagles and the Bears, I am, uh, not alive in survivor, I'm just invested in one, and, uh, like so many. Come on, Eagles. Uh- Never s- thought, thought I'd say that in my life. Quick betting conversation.
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I don't know why, but you betting the first half of this game made me think to ask this, 'cause we don't have these conversations very often.
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How much when you go to bet a game, you're betting a side in a game, how often are you betting first half of that game as well? Not... Less than 50% of the time. I mean, it's not close to half.
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It's not close to, to half. I would say I'm same way. I would guess 30-ish percent of the time, but- That sounds about right...
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for me, it's always gotta be that there is an additional handicap that puts me on something on the first half. Right. The, the thing about that is you don't know who's getting the...
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Unless you can figure out who's getting the ball first, right? If you have an edge where you know, oh, Green Bay tends to receive or defer, it doesn't end in...
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They, they end up with the ball first, no matter what kind of thing. Mm-hmm.
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Then you, I mean, obviously going into the second half, you know who's getting the ball first, but you don't know that in the first half, so that's why I don't do it all that often. Yeah, I get that question a lot. Yeah.
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I think it's for, it's kinda, kinda like first round leader with golf. Right, uh, this, we- okay, probably, probably a bad example, but, like, the, the point of these is I, I handicap stuff for the whole game.
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So if the handicap's for the whole game, I'm chopping my handicap in half of just betting the first half. So it's not something I u- I usually do a ton of. You usually will- No...
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if you s- there's probably about as good a chance you'll see me just have a first half play instead of first half and full game. Lane Kiffin doing a sideline, uh, interview with Taylor McGregor here on the broadcast.
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Do you think that Taylor is like, "Hey, uh, just curious, you gonna stay here at Ole Miss? You don't wanna announce it right now?" That would be so odd. Like you, it'd be awesome if you just asked that.
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Uh, Master of Puppets on Twitter @realbosarth, he says, "Looking at the emotions of Kiffin, I think he's staying at Ole Miss." Let's go, Master of Puppets. And I'm with you.
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This is- You keep reading that body language like you do... this is the most exciting thing going on today. Absolutely. I don't even have a bet on it, so I'm with you. [laughs] That's the most exciting thing ever.
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Um, okay. My, uh, NFL for the week, Seahawks laying the eight. I have the Seahawks with the Niners for Monday night, so Seahawks just need to get that teaser leg home.
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Seahawks with the Eagles today teaser, Seahawks with the Patriots teaser, and then I laid three with the Bills, which I'm getting a little scared about. Mr. Paul Carr on the pitch.
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Brentford Burnley over two and a half goals. That is tomorrow. Then on Sunday, Crystal Palace with a win over Man U. He's got Crystal Palace at plus 140, shop around.
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And also on Sunday, West Ham Irons, Olivia Dean's favorite side in- Ooh... the Prem. Double chance plus 110 versus Liverpool. That's a trio, a three-pack from, uh, Paul Carr.
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Chris Filika the Bear, Cal plus 13 and a half, UDub Washington plus six and a half, and then Tennessee team total over 33 and a half. His three-pack of college football plays. We didn't plan it this way, I promise.
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JBT was just in. He's on the Texans plus four and a half. That number not there anymore, but he got the four and a half versus his Colts. And then Dr.
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Bob, he's got the Colts minus three and a half as his play of the week versus the Texans. So there you go. Those are all the bets, uh, made so far here on the show.
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Uh, Mariners Geek on Twitter, "Gil, I'm concerned there are experts who come onto shows and push a team/narrative to try to move a number on a game so they can bet the other side at a better number.
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How do we get comfortable this is not happening? Happy Thanksgiving." Well, I would just say this to you, Mariners Geek. Let's say someone did wanna do that. The NFL is so liquid, right? Yeah.
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And college football is so liquid that you're unlikely to get that movement.
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Now, if someone came on here in some other sport, right, and started doing that blatantly, eh, maybe that's a discussion, but I don't think you have to worry about it otherwise.
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No, uh, I, it is not a dumb question, though. No. And something that, yes, it is very fair and good of you to be thinking about. I would put it that way. But yeah, especially NFL, nobody- Yeah... nobody's making it then.
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Limited everywhere. "Teaching your children about matching games and how important they are to the landscape of football is every parent's responsibility," he says. I agree with that.
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And then, uh, to the question of, uh, we did that, talking about that draft where Stan Van Gundy said, "I would take Jokic number one in an NBA all-time draft," Fairway Fred says, "Not sure Joker would get a shot off against Wilt, though, would he?"
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Well, I think he's got other skills. Yeah. Other skills as well. Um... I'm surprised this conversation went as smoothly as it did, me and Gil were yelling at each other over this stuff. The Jokic thing?
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Yeah, I figured if I, yeah. 'Cause I'm a Jordan guy? Yeah. No, I, I would be concerned about, I don't know if this is a conversation you can have with every- everybody of all ages. It's just I understand.
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You get attached to your era and what you saw, greatness, and it, it's tough. I, but I, I think that was a perfect example. Who is it? Stan Verrett that did this? Stan Van, Stan Van Gundy.
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Stan Van Gundy who brought this up. Yeah. Um, I thought that was, that was great. I mean, shouldn't we expect things to get better over time?
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I'll, I'll try to find out what Stan Verrett would pick, number one, for you, just because- Why weren't we talking about him the other day? [laughs] Oh, 'cause I did a FanDuel hit, and he was the host- That's right...
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for four minutes, yeah. That's right. Michael Harrison, "If you're one of the people that had Baltimore in Grandissimo, are you putting a ton of money on the Eagles money line today?"
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So we talked about this a little earlier. We'll talk about it again as we head towards, uh, kickoff. We got the same tweet twice? Oh, this... Um, no. We got, yeah, we got one earlier in the show- Yeah...
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and now this one. All right. I just... For, for those who weren't listening earlier. So Grandissimo, which is the $100,000 entry, uh, contest at Circa,
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as opposed to the $1,000 per entry, which is the s- the, uh, Survivor Classic, if you will. There were six entries left heading into yesterday. Three were on the Ravens. They're out.
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There are three left on the Eagles, um, namely Bino Collection, two- Uh, Sammy Sadist on, of, to, [laughs] I have no idea, and the Dream Team won. They're on the Eagles.
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If the Eagles win today, they're through, and it's down to those three guys for the pot. If they lose, if the Eagles lose, it's dunzo. We have a six, or if it's a tie, it's dunzo.
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Everybody then will have been eliminated. It will all be considered, uh, l- you know, to have lost on the same week, and the six of them will split up the entire pot.
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To your question as to whether the, the folks on Philly, knowing that they're in this situation, now will put a ton of, or the, or the folks that had Baltimore, I should say, yesterday, are putting a ton of money on the Eagles money line, I suppose in that case...
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See, this is a reverse way of asking the question. Right, yeah. I suppose in that case, if I were one of those Ravens people, I might try to do that, right?
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I think there's some, I think that is, that is something I am more likely to do than the previous question, which was, "Hey, if you're on the Eagles, will you try to monetize, like, would you throw a bunch of money, you know, on the," uh, what was the question earlier?
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The, I think I gave, or, no, I'm getting it twisted in my head. But I'm just saying, as long as they're- If you're on the Eagles, would you throw a bunch of money on the Bears? Correct. Right?
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Bears money line, whatever it may be. I, I believe that's what, yeah. I don't know that I would, if, if you're asking me would I think I would've done in the moment, I don't think I would've done that one,
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just because I'm like, eh, just, you know what? If we lose, we lose. We'll split it six ways. I think I would be comfortable with that at this point. I would be, too, probably. Or I, or I move on with two other people.
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But the other way around, maybe I would. Maybe I'll throw s- maybe I would throw a bunch of money. I don't know. I don't know if I'd do either, to be, uh, quite honest with you.
44:20
You know, it's funny, too, I- Yeah, I don't know. That, it, that's a good example. You know what? I typically wouldn't think about the one you just brought up. Yeah. It's, it's the thing.
44:27
Let's say we're in Circus Survivor Classic, so I know a bunch of people who are on the Eagles. We all do. We know a bunch of people on the Eagles today. I have heard much more of, "I'm on the Eagles.
44:36
If they lose, I'm okay with it. I'm comfortable," than people scrambling to somehow figure out a way- Mm. That's true, me too... to, to in any way monetize.
44:46
Obviously, it's a different story, 'cause we're not down to the last six. But I'm just saying in theory, it's one thing to talk about. In practice- Right, right. We're talking about practice. Practice, not a game.
44:55
Not a game. We're talking about practice. I don't know, I don't know how many, what percentage of people actually move in on something like this at this point, you know?
45:03
Um, by the way, I said JBT was on at the top of the hour. I lied. Prop Points, John Hanson at the top of the hour, followed by JBT on Money Moves, and then Follow the Money later on.
45:11
Can I bring up one final cool NBA thing- Yes, sir... I heard the other day? Mm-hmm. Chris Paul gonna retire, right? Yes. He will finish second, this is, this is for the olds out there, right?
45:20
Second all-time steals and assists. Wow. Do you know how many steals he is behind John Stockton? Whoa. 5,000. Do you know how many assists he is behind John Stockton? O- over 3,000. That is insane. Yes. Wow.
45:36
Enjoy your weekend. Good luck with all your bets, college and pro football and beyond. Enjoy, from VSiN, the sports betting network.
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