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Oct 17, 2024
A Numbers Game | October 17, 2024 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | October 17, 2024 | Hour 2
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[upbeat music] The numbers tell the story. They always do. You one of those idiots who believe in analytics? This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
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Hour number two of a Numbers Game at VSiN, eSports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV. Every which way you can take us in, we appreciate it.
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Gil Alexander, Kelly Bidlin, uh, alongside here on the Numbers Game. Uh, Crack standing by as well. We get tweets of Beating the Book, always want to, uh, get to the wonderful feedback.
0:53
"Best listeners in the game," this is from JasonH11, "glad to see Kelly in better spirits today with or without Seeger and Sigma." Yeah, he's, he's, he's feeling good about himself these days.
1:02
Nine and one, have I mentioned that? N- nine and one in the, uh, Q2 Circa Millions. He loves when I keep hyping that up. Uh, JamesSot, "What are your thoughts on Iga's new coach?" Yeah, Iga Swiatek, world number one.
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Has she come up on this show before? Uh, she, uh, selected Wim Fissette as her, uh, new coach.
1:19
Uh, she broke off with the, uh, with her original coach, Tomasz Wiktorowski, who, uh, helped her win five Slams, and they broke up and now it's Wim Fissette.
1:29
Wim Fissette has been the coach of Naomi Osaka, Victoria Azarenka, both a couple times, uh, some other tennis greats, so we'll see. I don't know. I have, I, I never sort of have a rating on a coach.
1:40
Mine is, I, I always love Brad Gilbert as my sort of go-to coach, but we'll see how it works out. Wim Fissette has had a lot of success. Um, we'll see what she, uh, we'll see what he can do with the world number one.
1:50
MickeyBaca, "Hey, my apologies for not giving more compliments about the show. Been distracted over the years with, uh, Todd Wisniewski's Miami Dolphins song.
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Since there's been little to sing about this year as a Dolphins fan, I'll be sure to give more love. You guys are the best." Oh, we weren't asking for it, but we appreciate that.
2:04
Uh, Pick10, "Boy, your love, Gil, for the Niners is worse than Stormy's. Both of you really have to look at that overrated defense." [laughs] Okay.
2:12
It's not my love for the Niners, I just think they're a really good football team. It's, "love for the Niners," didn't they get to a Super Bowl and all the talent? Okay. Just curious.
2:21
Uh, Brosek1870 also talking about the tennis picks. He said, "About the picks showing up, clicking tennis seems to show more often than clicking your name.
2:29
Uh, by the way, I bet it at 11:15 PM Central, which is 9:15 PM Pacific." The match didn't go off till after midnight, I believe, Pacific, so there were definitely a few hours in there. Um, I'll get to the rest coming up.
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In the meantime, ladies and gentlemen, you know what time of week it is. It's time for Unscripted with the Crack Man Bill Krackenberger, and it goes a little something like this. [upbeat music] Uh, uh,
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uh, uh. Ta-da. Billy. Hey. Missed you guys last week. We missed you too. Yeah. Oh. The people missed you more importantly.
3:08
[laughs] You know, we, we put up a, we now do a promo on Twitter, "Here's what's coming up on the show." Oh, okay. And when they didn't see your name, people went nuts. Oh, I seen that.
3:16
[laughs] Yeah, I seen them on Twitter. Yeah. I, I, as a matter of fact, I should've got back to people last week. Very nice people. Last Thursday, at least, like, a dozen tagged me- Yeah... and said, "What the?"
3:25
"Where, what are you doing?" [laughs] "What are you doing?" Yeah, and then, then, then they, they graduated from that to, "How are you scheduling your flight during the show? Can't you do better than that?" kinda thing.
3:33
Oh, yeah. But, but it was a last-minute thing. It was, it w- it was. I, I wasn't planning. I, I had to go at some point before October 15th, so- [laughs]...
3:41
it just, it just so happens that it- Is there any significance to that date? [laughs] Oh, it's a, a tax deadline, yeah. That's what people were- Final extension thing, so... they're like, "October 15th?" Yeah. Yeah.
3:48
So, uh, I, I pushed it off. I w- I was really... I usually go in September, but since I took that fall, I just couldn't really make it, which I'm, like, 95% recovered now.
3:58
Oh, you're still, you're, you're doing much better physically? Yeah. No, definitely. And, and, and, you know, like I said, mentally too. Right. Because, you know, I do, everything's a million miles an hour.
4:09
You know, we all do this- Mm-hmm... especially sports betters. Our mind is just a million miles an hour doing everything.
4:15
And, um, I was mad at myself because it probably involved something looking down at my phone, doing something sports betting-wise [laughs]- Mm-hmm... or, or something.
4:23
For those that don't know, then you s- you were by a pool, you slipped. Yeah, I slipped in the pool and, um, almost killed myself. Almost killed yourself. Yeah, yeah. You know that- It was probably Fez's fault.
4:30
I think Fez text me. Blame Fezzik, yes. I think Fez text me- Yeah... and I was looking down trying to look at this particular line somewhere. I just never, haven't revealed that yet. Fezzik almost killed you. Yeah.
4:39
No, I, I real- I really haven't told him yet. By the way, it's a serious subject too, 'cause my, my dad, his, his deterioration as an old man started with a fall- Yeah...
4:47
because of what you were just talking about, is always, he was always going a mile a minute, wasn't aware of his age, right? Right. Still thought he was a 25-year-old man. Sure.
4:55
He's walking as fast as could be, not paying attention, and you know those, um, those little cinder, the, those little cinder block slabs in some parking lots- Oh, okay. Oh... that, for parking spaces? Yes.
5:06
He just trips over that- Tripped over it? Yeah, just, like, smashes his whole face in at one point. And that started the, the- That started it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh, no. It, it does. So you gotta watch yourself, man.
5:14
And I still feel like a kid, though. Maybe it's because of the no drinking and smoking and no drugs. We all feel like we're 25. But, but I still feel like a kid. I run around- Yeah...
5:21
like, you know, and believe it or not. So I'm, maybe that's, that's, you know, a part of it. But I have, but this was a realization that it, I'm not used to staying home in one place.
5:30
So to have to stay home for three weeks straight, it, it bothered me.
5:34
It was almost like, reminded me of, like, you know, the, like, I remember when, when COVID hit, you know, we had to stay in our places for, like, months. Uh-huh. But, um, it, it, it, it just, uh...
5:43
And that's the reason why I think, by the way, c- that turns into this segment. That's the reason why I think the casinos are doing so well after that, the four years out of COVID. Um, I think it's four years.
5:54
Uh- People got ants in their pants about it... people are just saying- Yeah... they're n- they're never going down like that.
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They're, you know, they're saving their own money for, you know, a rainy day, and maybe saving their money for their kids and grandkids, and now they're saying, "Listen, I'm gonna go out and spend and have some fun.
6:09
I'm not..." 'Cause it, you know, these things go through your mind. If you remember how dark it was then- Oh... I mean, it was doom, the end of the world, you know? We could never go through that again.
6:18
At the top of my, of my parking garage, you can overlook the whole city. Well, especially where you live too, where I used to live. Mm-hmm. Same place
6:25
And everything was, there was no traffic on the strip It's amazing It looked like the Omega Man, the movie out of the '70s with Charlton Heston, was like, like, "Oh, this is the end."
6:35
[laughs] And i- you felt that way with the casino. I remember I had a guy, I have a guy in my building that plays- It's so surreal to think about now, isn't it?
6:41
Think about it That we all lived through that I had a guy in my building- Yeah... that plays poker for a living, that I told him, "You gotta get a job. You'll never play poker again."
6:48
You think you're gonna play this close to each other, you know, playing poker again? The way they were talking- Yeah... you know?
6:53
And then when they opened up the poker things, they put these big shields up between- [laughs]... the players and- Do you remember that?
6:57
We had the big plastic shields Meanwhile, it'll be- Oh, didn't we have a blackjack table, too? Where they put- Blackjack table shields. Yeah. Yeah. Shields, plastic shields.
7:04
Plastic sh- It was good for card counting, though. You know, you're we- It's a good- You're wearing a mask a- Yeah... all over your body and- Uh-huh... um- I forgot about those.
7:11
Those thi- there's like a graveyard of those plastic things somewhere. Like- There is Yeah There is. Um- There, there is. But, um- By the way, October 15th, can we go back to that for a second? Yeah, sure.
7:19
I don't wanna pry into your business, but you- No... obviously that's a, uh, that's a, uh, quarterly tax deadline. It is. And- It's an ext- extension deadline Okay, an extension- Yeah... deadline.
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And so you- Most, most professional gamblers are- Yeah... someone that's a, a, a, a pro. And I have a really good gaming accountant. So he, um, he actually,
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for lack of a better word, not subpoena, but he'll actually ask the government which casino said how much I won on each, e- each individual jackpot for video poker. And, uh, even DraftKings was on there this year.
7:51
So, um, I musta had a future that I, that, that cashed in. Yeah, so this was, this was more of the- And I, I noticed on the fours, I was like, "Wait a minute. Look at this, Phil.
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This, there's no 11 grand from DraftKings. I didn't even play there on the app last year." There was a future that settled- Ah... in ca- calendar 2023 tax year, and it was on there. So it was, it was more...
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So you won, in essence, you won more money than- Yeah... your previous quarterlies had reflected.
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And so- Oh, that part So, so basically- I didn't expect that Well, so basically they were like, "Oh, you owe more money- Yeah... and that's why you had to take care of it." And you pay a penalty.
8:22
You know, this is, this is the first year I realized this. You pay a penalty on top of that. Well, I didn't even know. It's like 600 bucks. You, you pay a penalty on top of the...
8:31
Ugh, I was like, "Jesus, you pay a penalty for... Because you didn't pay all the money throughout the year, you pay a penalty on top of, of your, um, you know, your, your tax bill," so.
8:41
Spanky was in with, uh, last week with Sean Fluharty, who was a part of the panel at BetBash that I was, uh, honored to moderate. Okay. Sean Fluharty is a West Virginia legislator.
8:50
Um, he, he's also a bettor, by the way, but he's also, you know, he's a guy who is, kn- he knows, knows tax law, knows gambling law. But even he didn't know.
8:59
Like, he told the story about how somebody in West Virginia, uh, you know, asked him. He's like, "Hey, why, why do I have to report my winnings but I don't get deducted for the losses and stuff?"
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And he, he didn't even know that that was the case in West Virginia, and this was one of our legislators. Oh, wow. So he, so he had to learn it that way, too. It's not fair to people that- No...
9:14
one thing that you, you can't write off your losses from previous years. So let's say you have a year where you make 100 grand gambling. Oh, right, yeah.
9:22
And, you know, you can only write off $20,000 in the losses, but yet the year before you lost 80 grand, or, you know, lost 100 grand. That doesn't take that into, into effect.
9:31
You're still paying tax on your net win and, um- But what he was saying is that you can't even report it to, you know, some, some states didn't have the ability to report the 80 in the year that you lost the 80.
9:41
That's unbelievable. To use your example. I think, listen, s- I think Louisiana or something. I, I, I've heard- Yeah... I have heard this before. Yeah.
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So, um, yeah, it's kinda, it, it's, it's a strange slippery s- slope when it comes to gambling win and writing off losses and stuff, so. Um, but yeah, no, that, that's, that's done. That's over.
10:01
Um, and, and you know, it's funny because last night at dinner, um, I, I went to the Italian, Italian American Club. Wednesday night's pretty cool there.
10:10
Uh, this is the second Wednesday night in a row I went there, and it's like the who's who of the town in there. On Wednesdays? Wednesdays, like, the...
10:16
Even though Jimmy Gerard, the owner, is not there on Wednesdays because they're closed Monday, Tuesday, and I think he takes off Wednesday, just everyone i- is, like, it's like all the town's important people are there.
10:27
And it's just such a cool atmosphere, the throwback of the old days, which, which it really is. But walking in there, um, it's just reminding me, people come up to me and ask me, "Who am I on?
10:40
You got, I need some winners." You know, "Just give me one winner. I'd appreciate it." [laughs] It's still the opener. Yeah. Yeah. They just want one winner. Who you on?
10:45
Like some, like, a guy came over I didn't know, and you could just see that's, he, he really didn't wanna say hello. He just, he goes, he actually said... He did wanna say hello. I shouldn't say that.
10:52
And he said to me, he goes, "Hey, hey, Bill, um, great to meet you." And he, "Oh, you commented on our show. Hey, you commented on V- on the, on, on the Vsain show."
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And he's like, "Can, can you give me, like, one solid winner? I've been getting killed, and I just need one game."
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And I was telling him, like, how one game has, like, a, you know, 1, 2% edge maybe, but I don't even know if that line is there anymore. I gave him the Eagles,
11:15
you know, minus three, 'cause it was minus three at the South Point earlier in the day. I bet it yesterday morning, um, minus 110. Never in doubt. But- Oh, Eagles this coming week? This coming week. Oh, this coming week.
11:24
Yeah, this coming week. Okay. And sure enough, you know, like, they'll, they'll, they'll judge you by that one game. I didn't wanna give him a play. We, we talked about this.
11:29
He's like, "No, just give me something to bet today." They'll totally judge you. If you lose this, he's gonna be like, "Thanks. Thanks for nothing, Bill Krackenberger."
11:34
No, he's, I, I was like, "I really don't have anything off the hand." He goes, "Well, give me something. Did you bet anything tonight?"
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I said, "Yeah, I bet, I think I betted something at the South Point earlier this morning and, uh, when they opened." And then I gave him the game, like, minus three, minus 110.
11:44
I just gave him- You still got the guy in the parking lot making sure everybody's car's okay? Yeah, he was, yeah, he was in the park- Yeah. He wears, like, a, like, a hat.
11:50
He's like, he reminds me of the movie, um, what was, uh, Back to School, the, the, the- Yeah... part of the little gangster. I h- Ah, God, it was, it was Paulie in Rocky. Oh. He, he died. Yeah, yeah.
11:59
I can't think of his name right now. Yeah. Great guy, though, by the way. But yeah, he reminds me of him. You know? 'Cause at first you think, "What's this guy, what's this guy gonna do to my car?"
12:06
And then you realize, oh, he's there to protect your car. He's there to protect your car. Bill Krackenberger, unscripted, right here on the Numbers Game with Vsain and the Sports Betting Network. Coming back.
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13:08
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13:16
And, uh, yeah, no, they're gr- I wish they were here. Um- I wish they were here... one, dude, one, one of the two just went live in, in Arizona, I believe. SportTrade. SportTrade. SportTrade did, yeah. Yeah.
13:25
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13:28
I mean- We get tw- we get tweets at Beating The Book, Jason McKinney, "Not sure if it's just me, but every time I hear you talk about the smooth play of the week, I think of The Simpsons and Laramie cigarettes and their smooth fla- [laughs] and their smooth flavor."
13:39
Uh, the numbers guys, here's one for you, Crack. Okay.
13:42
A question for Crack, "Seeing how respectful you are of the past, especially the performers of yesteryear, any idea what's up with your guy Frankie Valli and these videos popping up on social media of him performing in an almost comatose state?
13:54
Who's doing this to him?" Well, he- Didn't, didn't you just have dinner with him? I did. I did. And, and I love Frankie Valli. By the way, that was one of the really cool nights of my life.
14:04
It, that brought back memories of just thinking... My mom loved Jersey Boys when it ca- I took her to New York- Oh, it was so great... to see it a couple times. Yeah. I took her to Vegas to see it.
14:12
Um- Remember it was all over town? It was all over town. Yeah. And, uh, the, the movie came out, uh, I forget who did the movie. Anyway, the, a big, big, a big guy did a m- I'm, I'm for- at a loss for names today.
14:23
Well, thank you guys for the Bert Young- Yes... um, on Twitter Like the 11 people who said Bert Young Yeah, I have 11 people that said it. Mm-hmm. I counted them during the break. Really appreciate that, though.
14:30
Bert Young was the... He, he was in Back to School, right? He was like the bodyguard, the little, the little- Think so... tough bodyguard. Yeah. And, uh, of course he was Paulie in Rocky and a good guy.
14:38
He passed, I think he passed about a year ago. Um, but yeah, going back to, to Frankie Valli and, uh, the, the, the movie Jersey Boys came out, I don't know, maybe six, seven year, eight years ago, and it was fantastic.
14:50
The movie is a really, really, really... And my, my mom loved that version, so I got to tell Frankie. Matter of fact, the first line I gave to Frankie, though, was, um, uh, the movie, the line from Goodfellas.
15:01
I said, "What do you think, you're Frankie Valli or some kind of big shot?" When the girl Karen said it. [laughs] And he, he laughed and he goes- "What do you think, you're Frankie Valli?" [laughs]...
15:06
"Nobody usually says that to me." He says, "I haven't s- I haven't been told that in a while." That's what he said. "I haven't been told that line in a long time."
15:13
And, um, listen, the guy is, I think he's nine- he's gotta be 92, and, uh, h- how do you live to 92 and still on stage and running around like that? I mean- He s- he says he still enjoys it.
15:25
Now, let's be honest, that's a, that's a piped in voice, voiceover. That's not him singing live. You know?
15:34
That, that, that sounds like a younger Frankie Valli, but as far as his physical presence, he says he still, he still likes doing it. He's gonna be 91. Okay. Yeah.
15:41
And, and I'll tell you what, he had recolis- in recollection of, you know, of so many stories. When I was with him, I was with him for an hour straight. I mean, he had g- you know, good memory of everything.
15:52
He was talking about things. Yeah. And listen, i- is he moving slow out there? Yeah. Does he have f- f- you know, f- um, four, four backup singers that are literally, uh, you know, in their 20s, maybe 30s? Oh.
16:04
Yeah, he does. But, you know, people come out... And by the way, he sells out. Man, we should all be so lucky to be walking around at 91 like that. Yeah. He, he- Yeah... he sells out.
16:12
And yeah, I, I understand maybe he had some, um, maybe some, he might've had some, some surgery like a lot of guys do, you know? Facial surgery, uh, uh, elective surgery. Celebs. Yeah. You know? Like celebs do. Yeah.
16:23
You know? So, um, yeah, so maybe he, maybe he's pulled a little too tight or something o- on his own. But however, though, he, his wit, he was pretty sharp when I was with him.
16:32
That's so cool you got to- You know, him and Tony G- I sit, sat there and, you know, usually I'm blabbing about all different things. I was quiet as a church mouse. Who was it, Frankie Valli- And Tony Orlando...
16:42
Tony Orlando. Yeah. Yeah, and the son. Yeah. They get along good, the two of them? Very w- Good? Yeah. Uh, Frankie Valli was yelling at Tony- [laughs]... for retiring. Was he? He goes, "Wait a minute." Yeah.
16:51
"You're 10 years younger than me. What do you mean you're retiring from the concerts and singing?" Yeah, so it was kind of- He's retiring, shaming him... and Tony was like, "Don't yell at me. Don't yell at me."
17:01
[laughs] "I knew you were gonna get..." You know? Yeah, so- That's awesome... it was really cool, though. But I li- I love the time there with him, and I think Frankie's wife's, like, 55 or something.
17:10
I mean, you know, he's married for a fourth or fifth time. Um- This is from Jen O'Connor, "Saints beat two bottom 10 teams in the NFL," talking about Thursday Night Football tonight.
17:19
He says, "Yippee, Dennis Allen on the chopping block." You have a play in tonight's game at all? Did I play in tonight's game? New Orleans Saints, anything?
17:25
No, I mean, I, I, I'll, I'll lean towards, uh, only because I seen the line moving a little bit. I usually don't chase steam, but I actually found a pretty good money line, uh, on Den- Denver, right? Yeah.
17:36
Denver minus 125, which is now like 150. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I've seen, well, I seen it moving, and there were still, like, two, two 125s on the screen. Saints are so... They have no players, man.
17:45
They're banged up. Yeah, so I just, I, I just, uh... And, and Carr, right? Um- Carr is out... yeah, Carr is out. Although he's listed as doubtful. It's very strange that he's even on the injury report.
17:54
But yeah, they don't have their starting, their two starting wide outs are out. Yeah. Uh, so they're, they're totally decimated. I have a hard time doing what I just did- Their offensive line is decimated...
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and I apologize. What's that? I have a hard time doing what I just did, and I apologize, and I catch myself. I, I hate telling someone, "Oh, uh, yeah, you, this line minus 125 when it's 150." Well, but I asked.
18:11
But you asked. So there's- Yeah... I asked. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, so I, I- By the way, that, I hate that that's a criticism that, like, Fezzik always has, and I, and he was on the show. Oh, okay.
18:18
And the same thing happened. Yeah. And I pointed it out to him, and he goes, "Oh, you're right." Yeah. Yeah. If I'm, if I'm asking, what are you gonna say? Yeah. So- Yeah, so that, that means-... blame me...
18:24
it's not a line now. Yeah. The only other way to go is if the line touches three- Right... probably taking the Saints. Oh, really? Okay. That seem... Really. I mean, it, it, it just seems like, uh, three points at home.
18:35
But then again, these home teams, that doesn't even mean anything these t- these days. Yeah. Um, these home dogs. J&J, well, I don't think home field matters at all anymore in the NFL. Right. That's right.
18:44
J, J&J watering hole, the craziest part of those days, talking about COVID days here in Vegas, was the smokers could pull down their mask, take a drag, blow smoke everywhere, and pull their mask back up I have a- So true...
18:54
I have a video of that on my phone- It's, it's so-... a guy playing a slot machine- I know... pulling the mask up, blowing smoke, putting it back on.
19:00
[laughs] I also wanna say, though, that COVID, like, it, uh, I went to, uh, San Francisco, right? Remember when, uh, the week that, uh, you know, Parls ran off, and then I did the, uh, the- [laughs]...
19:08
the, uh, interview with, uh, Alan Boston on that Saturday, and then I bounced, and I never came back for three months. I was doing the show from San Francisco. Three months, I remember that now. Yeah.
19:16
Was it three months? Well, 'cause there was, like, a, was there a reason to come back at that point. Wow. Right? So I was doing the show from San Francisco.
19:22
Anyway, the point being that in San Francisco everybody was wearing masks, everybody was, you know how it is in California. It w- there were lines in the grocery store, there was spacing.
19:32
I got back to, to Vegas in July, nobody had worn a mask anywhere yet. Wow. And people forget that there was that big of a gap between how different states were handling it.
19:40
Nobody wore a mask in a casino or in a grocery store. It was like- It was like going to a different planet... there's probably more mask on now than there was then- Yeah... here in Vegas. That's very true.
19:48
Cr- Kranepool, "Come on, Bill, you came back east for the Columbus Day celebration in New York and New Jersey." Yeah, Mr. Kranepool. Yeah. Uh, and then, uh- [laughs]... Torch D says, uh, "I've been on fire lately.
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Can you give me a guaranteed loser?" He says. [laughs] Oh, a, a loser. Yeah. Torch D. [laughs] Yeah. That's funny. Um, no, but that's, uh, good for you, Torch D, if you are. We're not trying to break your streak. Yeah.
20:08
Um, how much NFL, how, how's the NFL going for you this year, generally speaking? Props are good.
20:14
They, we had a losing week last week, but I think it's my, my first losing week since, you know, I, I, I had, like, been on a roll since preseason football week one.
20:23
So I have no complaints losing a couple units last week. Are you invested in a survivor pool? No. No, I'm, San Fran knocked me out. When I was here. But are you, are you now going to invest in anybody else?
20:31
No, I'm not investing in anything. You've decided not to? Uh, not right now. I don't know.
20:35
People have offered me some pieces, but, um- It's funny, two of the guys who made it to the end last year, two of the choppers- Yeah... of the four choppers- Yep...
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as I understand it, and they'll correct me if I'm wrong, but we, we know them both. Um, I don't know if they want me to talk about them or not, but we know them both.
20:53
They decided to take their sort of selling off, uh, percentages and buying other people's percentages thing to a, um, to a extreme this year.
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So they essentially, as best, and they'll, they'll describe it better than I will, but w- from what I can tell, they decided really early on this year, "You know what?
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We're not gonna play, since we already won our money last w- last year, we're going to play this from a percentage standpoint. We're just gonna buy percentages, little percentages of others-" Really? Okay...
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"and we're gonna sell off a lot of our own." Okay. So these guys, there's only, like, 211, what is it, 216 entries left out of the initial, um, what is it, 14,255? I can't remember the exact number. Yep. 266 maybe.
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Farther. Um, they're part of multiple still, doing it the way that they're doing it. So maybe they're the, maybe they're the smartest people in the room. Wow. Wow.
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But, you know, I have to tell you, a lot of money on the table here. Oh, for, for sure. Are you doing it? I, I, I need something legally in writing with that, with, with information that, um,
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it's just hard to trust someone [laughs] for $14 million. Each one of those entries right now, Bill- And they're worth, like-... right now is worth-... 60 grand, 70 grand... $66,000. Yeah. $66,046.30. Yeah.
22:09
We're, what is it, week seven not even here yet. That's unbelievable, yeah.
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No, and there, and there is a couple guys that, that I know are, are selling pieces, and, um, I, I, yeah, I, I would- Just the fact that those two guys who got to the end- Sure... last year- Sure...
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decided to play it that way this year. Diverse. Yeah. So it's not even, they're not even about the huge jackpot, they're just about winning because that's just an add-on for them. It's interesting.
22:31
Can I, can I go into my, um, uh- Well, tease it... aggravated gambler segment- Yes... when we get back? Tease it for the next hour. Yeah. What, what is it specifically related to? Just an aggravated gambler- Okay...
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segment about sportsbook things that, you know, just to be real blunt, I'm just trying to get more for, for, for the customers. [laughs] Yeah. For Joe, Joe Public out there. Okay.
22:49
But, um, you know, things that get taken away and things that, that used to be and things that aren't now, so. Well, one of, one of my favorite versions of Bill Krackenberger is Salty Bill Krackenberger. Yeah.
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I like that. Yeah. Aggravated Gambler with Kragman. Again, @BillKragman with a K. Wise Cracks, the name of his podcast, which he does with John Orlando.
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23:46
Do you ever, do you ever bet horses? No. Oh, I used to, sure. Yeah. Still, still- As a kid before-... running around the track those horses?...
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before I knew the, how bad the percentage was of, of the hold and how bad it was for the players. I mean, they have really, have a lot of nerve charging people to w- get in a racetrack.
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Uh, you know, um, they should give you the programs for free. See, I'm going off already on- We, we got tweets that made me book Paul Medina, Five Card Stud 408.
24:09
He says, uh, "Thanks, Bill, for recommending the veal parm at the Italian American Club." That's what I had last night. "Went last Friday. Meal was amazing. Even Nicholas Cole came to our table-" Ooh...
24:19
"and sang happy birthday-" Yeah, he's great... "to Mel P's Giants win straight up." Oh, did I mess that up? Oh, no, "To Mel, P.S. Giants win straight up." Oh, okay. No, he, he's great. Yeah. No, he, he, he really is.
24:30
He's, he's great, and, uh, yeah, he, he, um, he's there every night at 6:30. I think it's either 6:00 or 6:30.
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And, uh, I'll tell you what, Friday and Saturday this weekend, there's a guy there named Bob Anderson that does the best Sinatra. He dresses up as Sinatra, too. He's- Does he really? He, he's been on, on Johnny Carson.
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I mean, he's, literally he's been around that long.
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And, um, you know, like these guys, Tony Bennett, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis have all said That he does the, he does their, and you know, im- impersonations of them better than they can do it. Oh.
25:03
It was, [laughs] it was really cool. So yeah, there's some great little shows there. Um- This is, this is from Respect the Process. "I just retired this month from the Air Force after 20 years.
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I was deployed during COVID and was never locked down. We put on masks and kept working. When I got back was when everything was opening up, and I was so confused. I don't know how y'all did lockdown. Respect."
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By the way, he also adds, "I also think Bill Krackman is the GOAT. Respect." Oh, that's nice of you. That's nice of you, and thank you for your, your service. That's the more important thing.
25:28
Um, I always, when I see a veteran, uh, with a hat on or something, especially Vietnam veterans, you rarely see World War II veterans anymore, um, because of the time period and how long ago it was.
25:39
But, uh, always at Tony Orlando's show, he always makes all the veterans stand up, even the Iraq War veterans and stuff. Thank you for your service for everybody out there, including that person with that tweet.
25:47
Well said. And this is from Todd Bubba Horwitz. Our guy Bubba says, "Love Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons and Jersey Boys. Saw them in 1975 at the Ari Crown Theatre in Chicago.
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The Orleans has a good production as well. Great show and info, as always." Oh, uh, that's... Here's, well, and then, uh, he's one of them that has a survivor left. Bubba's got a survivor.
26:05
Now, I would, I would get, I would buy his, 'cause I know him. Right. I know him. He comes on, on the shows and stuff. You know, he comes to the studios and, and, you know, after, and we...
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I've been to breakfast with him. But, you know, then again, I say I know him. $14 million, I might not know him anymore. [laughs] Still want it in writing. Yeah, 14- Still want your percentage. All right...
26:20
money makes people do things they don't wanna do. All right, Aggravated Gambler, what you got? I'm mad about a couple things. I'm mad about the sportsbooks not giving the bonuses out they used to give.
26:30
Like, not, I'm not talking about the bonuses I used to get. I used to get stupid bonuses, like deposit, uh, uh, five figures and get a, a five-figure bonus. I'm not saying that.
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I'm talking about for Joe Publics out there- Mm-hmm... that wanna deposit couple grand. Besides you, you know, not, not...
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If you open up an account, you'll get a, some, a little something, but there was a g- a lot of bonuses that they send out to people if your, if your balance went real low, and they, they, they, you know, singled you out in an email list and saying, "Hey, here's, uh, $500," or if you put in, you know, 5,000 or something like that.
27:01
So I noticed these. I wrote down these bonuses now. Y- so now you get, like, a same-game parlay booster. There's no matches or free bets and, you know... I, I, I try to stay away from that st- kind of stuff.
27:13
You know, believe it or not, once in a while you will catch... I don't wanna know if it's a mis- I don't, I don't really wanna, wanna say it's a mistake, but it might be a mistake.
27:21
Oh, I know, I know what you're gonna say. Go ahead. Let me know. No, the, some of those are off. Some of them are, are, are not... Some of them, sometimes they just throw things up.
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It's someone in marketing that doesn't know what the odds are and doesn't run... I guess they don't wanna- The boost is not actually a boost, in other words. That's right. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
27:35
I, I've, we used to say that at the beginning of it. It's like, check your math to make sure- Check your math... this is even a boost to begin with. That's correct. Yeah. That's correct.
27:41
Um, so yeah, and, you know, I, I... And then, you know what? You know something else that people are probably gonna be on the other side of this, maybe even yourself. Whenever I watch, like...
27:51
I'm not gonna, I shouldn't really pick on ESPN, but just, let's just say ESPN for now. You see that scrolling thing on the bottom that says, you know, "The Eagles have a 62% chance to win this game." [laughs] Yeah.
28:04
And then, you know, you'll, you'll see these, these, these, all these things scrolling by.
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I just think it's there as fluff, and even the things that say, um, you know, uh, uh, whatever's r- scrolling b- on, on the bottom, it's all there to separate you from your money. That's what I think.
28:21
They're trying to induce live wagering. Oh, this team's gonna, has a 80, 85% chance to win this game. You know- Oh, you mean mid-game, in other words. Mid-game. Yeah.
28:30
And I'll, I'll even tell you, e- even those, even some of them that are on there beforehand, that, you know, I, I, I'm just not into a lot of those.
28:37
I, I just think that anything that the public sees on a TV screen scrolling down there- Yeah... they're all taking sportsbook ad dollars. I think they're all in cahoots with each other. I really do.
28:50
I think- Oh, you think it's a, you think it's one big conspiracy? Do you think, like, I really... Do you, d- like, like, you know, when, when there's a, um...
28:57
What, what's it called when they, they put out their, um, you know, oh, "82% of our tickets are on the Lions this week"? Oh, the betting splits, yes. Betting splits. Yeah. I, I, I'm sorry.
29:07
I, I, if you, uh, I want an up-to-date betting split of an actual number, I need proof. I need proof that that, that that's a real betting split coming in.
29:18
I, I, I just think the betting splits are out there to, to induce more wagering. I am, uh... Let's put the betting splits b- sum aside, 'cause I don't wanna get in trouble. Oh, okay.
29:25
Let's talk about the other thing you talk about. Sorry. Let's talk about- I, I can get you in trouble too- Let's talk, let's talk about-... I'll do that in a bunch. I know. [laughs] Well, I know you can.
29:30
No, it's real easy to do it. Let's, let's talk about the stuff you were talking about before, which is the, the win probabilities during the game. That bothers me.
29:36
That, so that's interesting, because they are not doing that relate- we're talking about the mainstream medias- No... like an ESPN. Sure. So let me, let me juxtapose ESPN- The ESPN bet. Yeah...
29:47
ESPN against, say, like a tennis channel. 'Cause tennis channel, tennis channel actually puts up the pre-flop betting line. I think they're in bed with FanDuel, right? Yeah.
29:56
They actually put up the pre-flop betting line, and then they do the in-match, like after a set, the adjusted, and they do sometimes have an announcer that out- understands money line conversion to probability.
30:10
So at least they're doing it mathematically. What you're referring to, I, I sort of agree with, which is ESPN's not u- not doing it that way. They're not doing it based on the, the updated betting line.
30:21
They're doing it based on their algorithm, whatever that is, right? Saying, "Oh, this team in this situation, you know, has this win probability."
30:30
In baseball, I've said this many times on the show, people are free to disagree with me, baseball is a very mechanical sport.
30:35
Like, if you're down three to one and there's runners at first and third and there's two outs and all this, obviously there's different pitchers and different teams involved, but there's so much of a, you know, 100-a-year sample size in baseball where the win probability is probably more or less accurate.
30:50
Hmm. Football, I have always said this about football, and I know people who are, you know, behind those algorithms are like, "No, it's the same thing. It's all based on s- down and situation."
30:59
Football, there's way too many moving parts. There's 11 guys on each side of the field. The, they're, the, the nu- the notion that you are able to...
31:08
to target or, or to absolutely pinpoint a win probability when a team is down, say, six points with 14 minutes left in the game, third and eight at your own 10, you will not get me to buy into the fact that you can really pinpoint a win probability because there's way too many moving parts.
31:28
Who the quarterback is is obviously the biggest moving part of all of that. Who, what, you know, what's happening 11 players deep on a defense.
31:35
So that's, that's much different than baseball to me, which is a individual sport disguised as a team sport. Well, I'm g- we haven't talked about this ahead of time ever. Ever. This. So I'm glad you agree with that.
31:48
Yeah. Because, uh, again, I think it's there to in- to induce wagering. Listen, when some...
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Uh, not really for our listeners and viewers 'cause they're more astute to the sports betting game, so I, I think it's more to Joe Public out there that's pretty new, and I'm gonna say new, that means the last, you know, since, since, uh, PASPA was, was repealed.
32:05
I think it's geared towards them guys that are like, "Oh, this is 80? They have a 86% chance to win? Well, of course I've gotta bet it right now," not realizing the tax they're going to pay- Yeah...
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betting it, laying the juice they're gonna lay. Yeah. Um- You're... It's interesting though that you take it more to a conspiratorial thing. You think it's, you think it's like in cahoots or something.
32:25
Now- I'm not really a conspiracy guy either, but, but- And, but it's, it's easier- Hmm... to make... I will give you this. It's easier to make that charge when ESPN Bet is a thing, right? Yes.
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So you have more sort of, you know, juice in your argument to, to, to make that credibly, I guess. Yes. Yes. I don't know if I would...
32:41
I, I don't, I don't know if most people watching are betters, but certainly there will be betters to make that connection, yes. Yeah.
32:48
You know, uh, everything is there to induce more wagering and including there's a college or pro football game on TV for every night for the next, like, 30 nights. That's correct. So- Even more, I think, yeah...
33:00
yeah, whatever. I'm just- Yeah...
33:02
uh, this, this is, this is just, again, it's just to in- It's done, um, you know, when you have games on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday night, of course we've had the Friday Night Football was always, but the Tuesday, Wednesday games which never really were there, uh, now putting on football games, those, that's all there.
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I don't care who says what.
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That's, that's all there to get, uh, you know, the advertisers who are paying, which by the way, the advertisers are the sports books, that are paying these, uh, stadiums, and teams, and franchises, and networks.
33:32
It just seems like it's more for a, a mass grave for sports betters in my opinion, so. Are you, are you suggesting that, uh, MAC football on Wednesdays is not great football viewing? I mean- I'm saying. Sorry.
33:43
You know- I'm saying. No, I know. I- Just easiest thing, yeah... yeah, yeah. No, no, I- Yeah...
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I'm sure it's, it, it's nice for the, the fans of the local, of those teams, but I just think it's there to, you know, have, have a lot of wagering done. Standalone, what else you gonna do, right? That kind of thing.
33:57
Yeah, what else you gonna do? Yeah. That's right. What else, what else are you gonna do? That's right. You gotta have action, right? You gotta have action. We'll come back.
34:02
We'll wrap things up with The Crack Man, Bill Krackenberger, right here on The Numbers Game at VSiN, the Sports Betting Network.
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That's coming up next at VSiN, the Sports Betting Network. We get tweets of Beating The Book, Jimmy O'Connor, uh, who says the, the, uh, teasers come up all the time.
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If you have favorable odds, for example, three teamers at plus 170, two teamers at minus 120, are you still playing out of principle? Well, it'll, it'll allow me to consider playing them, let's put it that way. Yeah.
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Um, we're, we're, we're, uh, yeah, I like to know... I wanna see Jimmy if, if I can... I'm, I'm gonna DM you myself. [laughs] See when you get those? No, I wanna know where you get them. Listen- [laughs] That's right...
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um, three teamers, I used to play them at the Golden Nugget in Atlantic City, uh, three teamers plus 170. I think they were 180 at, at one time there when they first opened, but even 170- Is good today...
35:22
it is good today. Yeah. Yeah. I, I'd play that. Um, now when he says three teamers, he, um, I don't see... Does, does it say six point there? I didn't see. Oh, I was, I was just wondering the same.
35:31
Are we talking about six pointers? Yeah, it says six point three teamers. Yeah. I, I don't see it on that text, but, um, two teamers minus 120 on, on a two-team six-point teaser- Good for today...
35:41
uh, it's good for today, but like I said before- Yeah... I told, I know we beat, we beat teasers to death here. Yeah. Uh, there's no place in this town I can bet a teaser. I know that.
35:48
Big McAvoy, "Thank you Crack for bringing up bonuses. I thought it was just me suddenly, uh, any bonus is a max bet of $10 and no deposit bonuses offered anymore." Unbelievable. "Great to know it's not just me."
35:59
No, it's everybody. It's absolutely everybody, and pisses me off. Uh, Uncle Bush says, uh, "Gil, you're 100% right on money line versus win probability percentage.
36:08
If recreational bettors saw how off the percentage is that scroll across ESPN, they would [laughs], they would plotz," he says. I don't know, I don't know what that means. Uh, and then Torch D came back.
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He says, "I make the profit boost on parlays work." He's talking about the same game parlays.
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He says, "They always offer 25 to 30% profit boost on three leg parlays with minimum odds between, uh, even to plus 400, uh, to even to four to one. I will take two minus 1,000 favorites and pair them with a $3 dog.
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Boost that bad boy and bet the other side of the dog." Uh, that's too much going on in my head at one point. A lot of stuff going on there. Yeah. A lot of moving parts. Lot of, lot, a lot of, lot of turns in that one.
36:46
Um, I'll have to comment on that afterwards. Um- Gil, I have a friend of mine. Yes, sir. I have a friend of mine that, um, that, you know, he's one of those guys that just don't listen to anything you say.
36:59
Like, he doesn't care. He's gonna do his own stuff. He's, he's very wealthy actually. We've talked about this before. Yeah. Yeah. So yesterday, oh, you know, it's funny. I have my phone. I forgot. Yesterday he was...
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I, I, I think he forgot who he, he was talking to at breakfast. He, he turns his app to me. I videotaped this whole thing. I'm not gonna... But I videotaped. He's all of a sudden, he goes, "Look at this.
37:17
I've been killing it on these six teamers." And he's showing me his thing. [laughs] And he's like, he's scrolling and showing me all these- Yeah...
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different six teamers and five teamers and- You're like, "Dude" I'm like, "W- what, what, what?" He's like, and then he got, he's like realized, well, he forgot who he was talking to.
37:31
He was just putting in a, a, a bet, and he was like, "I've been killing it lately, you know, on these s-" And- Mathematically unsustainable... he doesn't wanna know anything- He doesn't wanna know... for, no.
37:39
No, of course not. He doesn't wanna know anything from me. Um, but one thing that I noticed, he, he, he buys out of some things. Straight bets, not parlays. Yeah.
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If he's betting a straight bet, if he gets the lead and he has a better price that they offer him, he buys out, and that's like the w- What are you- That's another worst thing you can do... what are you doing?
37:56
He buys out. He, he, he bets like 100 bucks, but if he's offered 110, he's out. Um, Jimmy O'Connor, by the way, says that those were six, uh, point teasers, what you were asking about, the two-teamers. Six point.
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Six-point teasers. Yep, yep. Um, by the way, hold your thoughts here, Bill, because it's time for the GBank Best Bets of the Day. GBank, the official bank of VSiN, and Billy's part of this today.
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Uh, Bill Krackenberger with the money line on the Broncos tonight. Well, you have the minus 125. Yeah. Oof. If you can find the, the price that Bill has, anyway, it's a play.
38:24
But he's also on the Eagles laying the three- And a three... on Sunday. Yep. Gave that out to the guy at the Italian American Club. Good luck to you. Yeah, boy. [laughs] Your reputation is on the line.
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And you know, that place is like- Yeah... for a lot of people, and you can g- you can come back in there and have a hit squad on you next week.
38:38
Uh, our own Kelly Bidlin, he's on the, uh, Saints team total under tonight, 17 and a half. Kelly is going under on the banged-up Saints, under 17 and a half.
38:48
I have not yet, uh, decided if I'm making a play, either to the under in this game or on the Broncos. Can't quite get there.
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The under, the under team total, again, I'm just not sure, uh, with the, uh, the Sean Payton run-up possibility. And then Zach Cohen was kind enough to give us three college football plays, uh, today.
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He's on Louisville plus the four and a half, um, and I think he's sprinkling on the money line in the Louisville game.
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For more information, head to vsin.com/gbank. That's V-S-I-N.com/gbank. Subject to credit approval. Terms and conditions apply. Let me tell you something. Yes, sir. I, I wanna tell you right now, I have a 2% credit card.
39:51
I have one. So I, I don't know the sponsor, by the way. This is, well, I'm just telling you, 2% on purchases is unbelievable. There you go. So I'm just, I don't know them, but I'm just saying I have a 2% card.
40:02
It adds up. We like it when you endorse the sponsors. Yeah, I'm, you, instead of normally like I do going after 'em, so, um, that's not true. But no, the 2% is, it, it, you wouldn't believe how much...
40:13
But I'm not one of those guys that are sick, that you go into like, like Italian American Club last night- Mm-hmm... they're getting cash. But some people, they're so crazy, they ha- they always think about...
40:24
I, I even, I'm even around some people that say, um, "You, you guys, if you're giving cash, can I have the cash and I'll use my credit card?" Oh, those people. I won't even give 'em it, the cash. Those, those people.
40:34
[laughs] Do you know what I'm talking about, though? Yeah, y- they annoy you enough that- They annoy me... you don't give it to 'em? No, I don't give 'em. Even if you have- I say, "No, I'll get my own check then."
40:39
'Cause they want the points. They looking for the points. [laughs] I mean, you're talking about like, like 80, 85 cents. I l- I'm laughing because I l- No, they're sick. They're, they're touched...
40:47
I love this aspect of your personality. I'm so with you. It's like even if [laughs], even if you have it, on principle you're like, "I'm not giving him the money." No. [laughs] No, they're, they're, they're insane.
40:56
You know, that now everyone, if I go with the younger crowd, what, they're doing that credit card roulette thing. Oh, yeah, still do it. I have that mastered now. Yeah, how do you have it mastered?
41:02
I, I always carry a room key. Yeah. Real light room key, because the waiter picks it, and he's al- he's never gonna pick the light... He's always picking the one with the raised letters or the big thing. Oh.
41:11
Yeah, I just have a room key. So I, I give him the room, the room key. [laughs] Real light plastic. That's the way, that's your hack. I, I'm like eight for eight not, not being picked. Oh, man, really?
41:19
Every little advantage. It has, that can't just be normal. I know. That is your, that is your pro tip of the day, ladies and gentlemen. Always have a room key. Say, "Yeah, here's," and you just give it to him.
41:27
And if he, and, and the other people at the table don't realize it's a room key. How m- how many, uh, how many restaurant roulettes have you participated in? A, a lot of them, actually, believe it or not.
41:35
Where I, I'll be blunt about this, too. You're bringing up a subject. I'm thinking about- Yeah... subjects here. I come from the old school. Whoever's the, the richest guy at the table pays.
41:44
Now, if it's on, if it's in question- Yeah... that's different, but, you know. Some- somebody is usually that person for sure. Yeah. So there sh- Like if it's me, you, and Felika, Felika's paying. [laughs] That's right.
41:54
You know? Felika's paying. Yeah. Hey, wait a minute. Sports. We've, we've done that before. He hasn't paid. Oh, okay. No, it- Cred, so that's so funny.
41:58
[laughs] So the pro tip for credit card roulette is don't actually submit a credit card, is what he's saying. R- r- uh, submit a light room key. Yes, a light room key is the best. Just get a room key.
42:08
It doesn't have the raised letters like a, like a credit card has, and it's, the, the waiter's never gonna pick it. He's gonna go right past it and feel the numbers, "Oh, here you go." [laughs] You know?
42:16
My friends that, that I did this with recently, he's gonna get mad, but. But somewhere Felika's like, "What?" [laughs] Well, he listens, so. That's right. Um. Uh, uh, here's my pro tip of the day.
42:25
It has nothing to do with anything, but I was at, uh, Chipotle yesterday. Do you, do you enjoy a Chipotle dinner or a lunch? Yeah, no, Chipotle, I, I know people that, that go to Chipotle for, eat healthy. All right.
42:33
Right?
42:33
This is this, so, you know, I don't know when the next time you're gonna be a credit card, you know, in a credit card roulette situation to, uh, act on that, but, uh, my, uh, Chipotle, uh, pro tip is, uh, I usually get the double chicken,
42:45
and so double anything. Here's the, here's the pro tip. Do not ask for double chicken right off the top. Here's what you do.
42:52
You just ask for chicken, and then you do the thing that once they do a full version of chicken on, then you're like, "Oh, can you make it double?" And then they actually give you times two. Oh, wow.
43:02
If you go into it saying- Okay... "Double chicken," you know what you end up getting? 1.5 chicken. Wow. Your Chipotle pro tip, pro tip of the week right here on the Numbers Game. Wow.
43:10
Wow, and this, this- This is all very actionable. Yeah. That, that's a move. Um. [laughs] It is a move. Going back to the, before the show goes off- Oh, sorry... about the buyouts,
43:19
that is really bad what this guy does, and it's bad if, you know, people- Yes... but what's the wording that they call it? The, the buyout. Cash, cash out. Cash out. Yeah, cash out. Yes.
43:27
Uh, he cashes out every time he can get a profit. Doesn't matter. I hate that. Doesn't even realize that, you know, obviously they're, they're, they're offering you $110. Your ticket's probably worth 160, uh, 150.
43:36
It's like a, it's almost like a sickness. No, it is- Yeah... for, for him. And now, this is the same guy that's betting five and six teamers, and, um- And doesn't do it for those...
43:44
doesn't do it e- for, yeah, he d- [laughs]... he just, he takes a profit and, o- on straight bets. And let's, just to let you guys know out there,
43:51
you should not be doing cash outs unless you bet too much, unless you over-bet by accident or something happened. There could be some other situations, I guess. Oh, if there's a- Maybe a, a- If there's an injury...
44:02
injury. Yeah. Injury or, or weather.
44:04
If, if s- But I would think that would also, but I don't know if the algorithm takes those things into consideration, so, um, I, I just wouldn't be- But, but it may, but it may for you.
44:10
There, there are always exceptions, but what you're saying generally is if nothing has fundamentally changed and you are in a plus EV situation, what are you doing?
44:18
Why'd you do, why'd you make the bet in the first place then? Ah, that's perfect. Why'd you make the bet in the first place? Right. What are we doing? You feel you have an edge.
44:24
If you're making a bet, you feel you have an edge, of course, but, um- Dinner-... this hour went by way too quick. Dinner's on Felika next time. That's what I learned. My man. We love Chris.
44:33
[laughs] By the way, he texted in earlier. He goes, "Crack went to the Italian American Club? What a surprise." [laughs] My man. Uh, thanks for listening. We've done all we can do. Uh, I don't know.
44:43
I'm doing the Megapod right after this with Las Vegas Chris. Will Hill, Todd Wischnev, and I are gonna record the Megapod, the Beating the Book Megapod. Las Vegas Chris. Will I have a bet in tonight's game or not?
44:52
I'm still not sure. We'll see if we get to that. Stormy's next with Matt Brown. Money Moves on the other side right here at VSiN, the sports betting network.
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