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Sep 24, 2025
A Numbers Game | September 24, 2025 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | September 24, 2025 | Hour 2
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[upbeat music] The numbers told the story, they always do. It's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN. Hour number two of a Numbers Game at VSiN.
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The sports betting network, VSIN.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, Sirius XM Channel 158. It's Gil Alexander, Kelly Biln alongside, producer number nine, so much more than a producer.
0:21
This used to be our, uh, second and final hour. Not anymore. It's like we're just starting. That's right. Let's do it all again. We talked a lot of baseball in the first hour. Maybe we can talk some football here.
0:30
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it, man. Real quick, uh, w- Todd Wisnev coming up on the show, Warren Sharp coming up on the show, Nick Whalen, uh, to talk some, uh, fantasy as well. All the Ws.
0:41
Wisnev's got some, uh, some thoughts on some middling when to, when not to, sport versus sport kind of thing that he wants to talk about. And Warren's always filled with, uh- Mm-hmm... with information on games as well.
0:53
And, and Sia Nishad back today here. And Sia Nishad on the Ryder Cup. I buried the headline. He's pumped. Ryder Cup fever. [sings] Didn't the Stevie Wonder have a song, Ryder Cup Fever? Oh, that was something else.
1:04
[laughs] Um- He's pumped. He told me, uh- I'm actually g- That's the other thing, though. We talk about baseball. I'm sorry to interrupt, Kelly.
1:10
W- w- Will was like, "Oh, he, how, all this baseball's gonna be shoved into the weekend. How are you gonna focus on the Ryder Cup?" Yeah, you can't. It's the same thing.
1:16
I- it's the, I almost brought it up then, but it's the same thing. Yeah. Like, why, why are you even playing it on the weekend? Like, just, I agree with Will. Just play, play it in the middle of the week.
1:24
We get tweets, beating the book. BigOATX, "Just wanted to tell you to shut up too, Kelly. Love y'all." Oh my, I'm, I'm only- How many of those- I'm only expecting about eight more of those tweets to come in.
1:33
[laughs] That's right, they're coming in. Uh, Steven Enwright, "To the producers of the show, please remember, uh, Gil and Kelly making up pre-Prohibition baseball player names for a slow sports day. Hilarious."
1:43
[laughs] Uh, Jesse Welch, "You guys had three professional fighters in the control room? Why has Kelly been acting as the bouncer this whole time?" Uh, Jesse, it's a gr- that is a great question.
1:53
'Cause it hasn't been forever. It hasn't been forever. Yeah. This is kind of, uh, this is a r- this is a redone crew. We got Danny involved in the producing side now. The Lair Bear was at the D with us, though.
2:04
He was, but he was- But he was stashed in the closet. Not in that way, but yes, there was a n- [laughs] There was a physical closet. A control room closet. Is what Kelly is trying to say. Yes.
2:13
[laughs] He was neither trapped in the closet nor in it. It was just a control room closet is what Kelly's referring to. I just wanted to clarify, I'm sure, Kelly. Thanks, Gil. Yeah. Thank you, yeah. Just wanna clarify.
2:22
Yeah. In case Larry was back there. We have referred to it as the closet multiple times before- No... but yeah. Um, according to the Tom Tango Cy Young tracker, no problem with Tarik Skubal botching that game last night.
2:34
He's still well ahead in the points over Gerrit Crochet. Yes. Of course, this is a fluid situation, but it's over five points by his point system, Skene's, and even a, an even bigger margin in the national league.
2:45
Not e- not bigger- Minus 20,000... but about the same.
2:49
Yeah, uh, again, five point leads in this, in the, uh, Tango system, which again has correctly picked 32 of the last 38 Cy Young winners in his final tally at the end of the year. Looks like it's gonna be 34 or 40.
3:02
I gotta give Will a shout-out for, uh, he shoulda done it while he was on the air, obviously. He brought up that the MVP bet that was not made. That's right. But the one that I did ma- I mean, this is...
3:13
I, I, I, baseball futures, I think I have the smartest and dumbest bets I've made all year. Yankees to win the division at, like, the worst price possible is one of the dumbest bets I've made all year.
3:22
Or just worst, whatever. Bad timing. Uh, Aaron Judge not to win the Triple Crown, like, I laid minus 220 in, like, May, and I believe, I'm pretty sure that was a Will drop.
3:34
Like, that, that's probably the best bet I've made all year. Yeah. Ain't gonna win that. Unless he can figure out a way to get 10 homers plus on Raleigh in the next five ga- five game. Yeah. That's not gonna happen.
3:44
Shut up, Kelly. Yeah. [laughs] Chance Copper Pot, "Does the wine spritzer talk go along with Ryder Cup fever?" I think they're in tandem. I think they're in tandem. Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's talk some football.
3:53
Wanna do a NFL whip around? Let's do it. NFL whip around for week number four. We did not have an intro for this, did we? No, we did not. Okay. All right. Let's start with tomorrow night's game.
4:02
Seattle at Arizona, a clash in the NFC West. Again, the division with a 3-0 Niners team and then three 2-1s. Uh, this, of course, two of those 2-1s. Seahawks, Cardinals.
4:15
Now this has moved since Guessing Lines on Monday- Aggressively... from the Cardinals being a less than three favorite to now the Seahawks being a point and a half favorite. I understand James Conner is donezo.
4:27
I get that part of it. Other than that, though, do you really feel, uh, do, do you sense that this is a justified move? Uh, you still got injuries in the secondary, right? Like, Arizona's pretty banged up right now.
4:40
I, I, I agree with Seaha- mo- movement towards Seattle. I'm surprised that it's gone this far, though. This is a, this is a teaser leg on the Cardinals for me. I think it's gonna be a complete stay away.
4:52
I, I, I do, I do like Seattle, which this is, I mean, this is kind of where things have changed from pre-season, right? I think between the Cardinals' injuries and Seattle impressing so far, I lean that way.
5:02
I don't, I don't think I'm gonna have a bet, though. I'm just ma- I'm mad. I kind of circled it as Seattle for a teaser side- Yeah... early in the week, and that moved so quick.
5:09
It just, I really didn't have much of a chance. Let's go to Dublin, Ireland, Sunday morning. Don't forget, the international series begins on Sunday morning, 9:30 AM Eastern Stateside, 6:30 Pacific.
5:21
Vikings technically at the Steelers, at Croke Park in Dublin. Believe it's pronounced Croke. Um, Steelers are dogs. Vikings now a two and a half point favorite.
5:33
This was a pick 'em, or at least I guess the pick 'em on Guessing Lines. It's about where it opened, yeah. And then you said, uh, Vikings were taking money during the show. Yeah. We saw, yeah, we saw early Vikings money.
5:43
There were books that opened this one up b- but e- uh, either side favorite. I saw a couple that over opened Pittsburgh minus one, so. And I said if it got to three, I would play the Steelers.
5:53
I want nothing to do with this game. I don't either. Th- these are two teams that I'm still trying to figure out. Yep. I don't either. Don't want anything to do with it.
5:58
I, I don't think the Ste- I don't think the Steelers' defense is all that good. I, I think Minnesota, and you could maybe say this for years now
6:07
I don't, I don't know if I know how good their team is, but I know they've got a great coaching staff, and that helps make them look a lot better [laughs] than they are.
6:13
This is- that's the game that we'll try to, I'll try to sleep through, but because we wake up every morning so early, we won't be able to sleep through until, end up watching the second half at least. Yeah, at least.
6:21
Yeah. Eagles at Bucs, battle of two three-and-ohs. Eagles, three and a hook. Three-and-a-half point road favorites at Raymond James Stadium. Totals at 44. I laid the three the other day with the Eagles.
6:33
I don't feel great about it. Honestly, nothing too huge for me this week. But I, I laid the three. I think these Buccaneers injuries are, are becoming serious. Mike Evans going to miss time.
6:43
I think Mike Evans means a lot more to that offense than most wide receivers do. Uh, so I like the Eagles, but I mean, Gil, these are, these are both three-and-oh teams, right, that could easily be the other way.
6:55
Well, the Bucs- Eh, could be oh and three... Bucs could be oh and three. Eagles, yeah, I guess so.
7:00
I mean, I, I think these are, they're a little bit of both kind of fade teams for me going forward, but, you know, running into each other this week.
7:07
Don't let us down on Thanksgiving, Eagles, if we're lucky to get that far. Saints at Bills, talking about survivor. Speaking of survivor, Saints at Bills. This is going to be a very popular survivor play.
7:17
It's the biggest spread of the young NFL season. The Bills are 16-and-a-half point favorites hosting the Saints. So it's funny, Kelly and I get a big kick out of this o- off air.
7:26
When we do the survivor segments, there's a couple, like, pet peeves we have with survivor. One, if you are not participating in survivor, you come into the threads and dunk on people who are, we're not impressed.
7:38
Two, uh, we get a lot of this, "Oh, don't overthink it. Bills, just go ahead and survivor."
7:43
O- okay, again, I, and if you did watch the video, I had a point as to why you might not wanna play the Bills, but I'm gonna have you watch the video. I'm not gonna repeat it here. But nothing in this league, right?
7:52
Like, people who think everything is a slam dunk, let me just remind you, in 2020, I got knocked out when a 17-point home favorite lost. Yeah, it's- On the Rams. Have y'all watched this league before? Nothing is safe.
8:03
That being said, I think the Bills will roll. It will be a survivor play on a couple of my entries. Yeah, me too. I, I, most if not all probably will be Buffalo this week. Yeah.
8:12
All that to say, I will have them on a [laughs] couple entries. You're... All that to say, yes, I am- Yes... uh, looking very hard at Buffalo this week. This was one of the ones I didn't understand during guessing lines.
8:20
I ma- It hasn't moved, Gil. It hasn't moved. I made a bet on the Panthers plus five and a half, and it has just sat there all week. Panthers at the Patriots. Now,
8:29
listen, this is not me saying, "Oh, my God, I love the Panthers." This is just me saying, "Why are the Patriots five-and-a-half point favorites against anyone?"
8:36
Um, it was a turnover fest for the Patriots this past week against the Steelers. So I understand what the, the counterargument would be. Well, is it, is it likely that the Patriots will squander so many opportunities?
8:50
So I get why perhaps this is what it is. Um, I still don't think they should be five-and-a-half point favorites. And I don't, that was fake Panthers last week.
8:58
Like, I don't, I don't believe that was the real Panthers team that we're, that- Oh, they-... that we're gonna go see... they were, they were outgained, if I'm not mistaken, by the Falcons. Is that correct? I don't know.
9:06
I'll have to check that out. Um. But yeah, I believe so. I don't, not expect the Panthers to be putting up 30-plus point shutouts very often, uh, this NFL season.
9:14
And they, like, this is one of those where my heart believes, Gil, [laughs] that, that the spread should be right around there. Yeah.
9:21
But I don't really know what I've seen so far at all that tells me this should be that much more than a field goal. And, but the fact that it has not moved. Yeah. I, I don't know. It's sitting there.
9:31
It's got me scared a little bit. I'm just sit- I think I'm sitting on the sidelines for that one. Otherwise, I would be completely with you. It'd be absolutely take the points or nothing.
9:37
This might be one of the more interesting games of the weekend. Washington, the Washington Taco Holders at the Atlanta Falcons. Uh, Washington is a one-and-a-half point road favorite.
9:48
I do believe Kelly Bidlin, you ready for this? Yep. That they will sit Jayden Daniels again. I think they will, too, especially since it looks like McLaurin's not gonna go, right?
9:57
It looks like Terry McLaurin is not gonna go. He never misses football games. You know why? Because he's incomparable.
10:01
Um, but as long as, listen, I, I think the Marcus, I think Marcus Mariota engineering the, uh, victory this past week allows Washington to be cautious- Yeah... with Jayden Daniels. Like, "All right, well, we won.
10:14
Let's, let's do it again." Um- I don't even think it ha- needed to be that impressive last week. I, I, I would think the Commanders have a lot of trust in Marcus Mariota to step in. They do.
10:24
He is li- has solidified himself as a top five backup quarterback in this league, and maybe I'm being conservative. All three times that he has played instead of Jayden Daniels, he has been great.
10:36
Um, and it's gonna be Michael Penix getting the start again for Atlanta, looks like. Uh, all the Kirk Cousins buzz that you might have heard is, is being quelled for now.
10:45
I think it's a pretty interesting game because if, if Washington wins this, goes to three and one with two games, you know, Jayden getting better and two games where Marcus Mariota played,
10:54
everybody should stop talking about any kind of, uh, you know,
10:59
pendulum swing on Washington this year based on all their outcomes last year, all those, uh, those high leverage outcomes, um, in, in cardiac fashion last year. And subsequent- and with that, Atlanta losing? Good God.
11:13
Yeah, this is, um, this is one of those games where it just kinda stinks. This is, this is week four. The, it just stinks there's so many injuries on both si- both, both with both teams. Yeah.
11:22
'Cause th- this is a bi- this, I think this is a big NFC game in week four. Oh, I, I think it's huge. That's why I say it's one of, one of the more interesting games of the weekend, that in Atlanta.
11:31
Again, Washington favored by minus one and a half. Uh, we'll whip around more and the rest of the week four games in the National Football League. Again, survivor plays. Do we have bets on them? Are they teaser legs?
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12:41
Skill Alexander, we got tweets at Beating the Book. Y'all are the best here. Uh, this is from, uh, Steve @NYFootballGiants42 said, "I had the Megapod on with my fiance in the car Sunday morning.
12:52
She didn't seem to mind at first. Then Todd started singing, and she immediately put her headphones in." Well, you tell your wife that Todd'll be on later on the show as well. Maybe she'll have a same reaction.
13:01
Put headphones in [laughs]. [laughs] That's great. Do you often listen to things that she has to put headphones in? [laughs] Harold Irving, "I was shocked to hear Machine Gun Lewis had the Patriots as a Survivor team."
13:11
I think he's referring to Jensen. Machine Gun Lewis. Machine Gun Lewis. That's awesome. That's great. Dan Groeschel, "I penciled out my Survivor path to justify taking the Bills this week.
13:19
If you thought week five was looking gross, just wait until you scan over the week seven slate. It's gonna be a dumpster dive week." All right. Survivor, the, the challenges in Survivor never end.
13:31
There are weeks that you are gonna feel so uncomfortable. You ever been dumpster diving, Gill? No. Never did that? No. Did that, did that in middle school, high school. What were you diving for? Um,
13:42
Barnes & Noble or at Borders, we used to grab CDs out the back. Oh. Yeah. All right. They'd throw them away. Okay. Those- Yeah... those are, those are worthwhile now. You got a CD player anymore? No? No. No.
13:54
Roberts01, Robert, he says, uh, "From Cleveland and the Tribe's run," oh, from Cleveland.
13:58
Oh, he's from Cleveland, "and the Tribe's run is wild, but can't forget the '87 finish to the AL East, was stationed in Okinawa and got to watch the last game of the season and the Toronto collapse.
14:07
Detroit won the division after trading John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander, who went 9 and 0." He says D. Alexander. I assume that's Doyle Alexander who went 9 and 0. Doyle Alexander, Orioles great.
14:18
It was not a great Oriole. I'm just making that up. Um, all right, back to the NFL whip-around. Still Sunday morning, Cleveland at Detroit. Lions are favored by nine.
14:29
Uh, when we went through s- the Survivor segment yesterday, this is... You know, some people are gonna play Detroit for sure in Survivor. I'm gonna save them. Uh, they are, they are a Thanksgiving team.
14:39
There are other options to use them, so it's not one that I'm gonna expend right here. But Lions now, you know, up to a nine... I, I mean, this was a nine-point favorite.
14:47
This is where it, it was, I think it was at, I guess, eight and a half. It was right there. It was eight and a half on Monday. Yeah. It's kinda been, it's been one-way action. There's not...
14:55
I see anywhere from eight and a half to 10 out there right now on this game. I don't have anything here. Doesn't surprise me. I, I mean, this would be...
15:03
I'm not betting it, but it would be take points or, or nothing, and I, I would be scared, not only of the future opportunities to use the Lions, I'd be a, I'd be a little scared with, like- Browns D...
15:11
yeah, I mean, um, maybe- Well... maybe I've got PTSD from last week with the, with the Packers, but- Well... that defense can just keep you in a game, keep you hanging around, hanging around. Stuff happens.
15:21
Hanging around. Uh, speaking of P- PTSD, I've got that with the Titans, who are seven-point dogs at the Texans, and this is- My turn... th- [laughs] it's your turn to take them.
15:32
I understand why you would take them, uh, because the Texans, I don't know if you know this, they're what we call 0 and 3, and the offense looks anemic. So I understand why you would take the points. I am not.
15:41
No chance I'm ever taking the Titans again. But the, uh, the Texans will be a very popular Survivor play as well. Maybe not as popular as the Bills, but this is the, the Survivor play...
15:54
And I know a lot of the oohs and aahs out there when I say that, but this is like the Seahawks last week. There is no real natural spot to play the Texans again. That is why the Texans will be popular. Uh- Yeah.
16:04
Char- Totally makes sense... Chargers, Giants. Chargers up to a six-and-a-half point favorite now on the road with Jackson Dart named the starter yesterday after the show.
16:14
Uh, Jackson Dart, and be, oh, no, during the show, pardon me, yesterday. Jackson Dart now in single digits for Offensive Rookie of the Year, uh, for the Giants.
16:21
But, uh, Chargers up to six-and-a-half point favorite on the road on that news. What's your favorite, uh, moment of the Giants Russell Wilson era? Oh, that, oh, that, that's actually an easy answer.
16:34
Him- him throwing bomb after bomb over the Cowboys defense and n- the Cowboys not being able to figure out that's the only thing that Russell Wilson can be- Oh, I w-... can do well...
16:42
I would've gone with the four- I'm going with positives. I would- I'm going with positives... I would've gone with the goal to go sequence against the Chiefs. Nothing will ever be that wonderful.
16:49
Dude, that, that throw into the tunnel. All of them. What are you doing? Uh, Jaguars at the Niners. Niners are three-point favorites. Again, Nick Bosa gone for the year. Do we know if it's Purdy or Jones yet?
16:59
We don't really have a word on this, do we? At- We don't. Well- Plus Shanahan's a liar, so you won't know anyways- [laughs]... till, like, Saturday at best. Love that you call him that. Just a liar.
17:07
He- he's a- he does NBA injury reports at Crackle. You're a liar. That's a lie. But c- can I circle back? Wait, do you have anything on this game? No. Then I wanna circle back. Nothing. I got nothing either. I even...
17:17
Okay, if Purdy goes, will you run to lay three? No. I'm not running to do anything in that game. Yeah. Yeah, it's- No... the 49ers' injuries are bad.
17:26
I will say I'm surprised I'm still seeing on the board a six for the Chargers, and then, I know we haven't gotten to the game yet, but the fact the Packers are not seven or more everywhere kinda blows my mind.
17:39
I know it's early in the season. Fact of the... Who's not seven or more? Packers?
17:41
The Packers, that they're still a six and a half on the Packers, and that they're still a flat six out there on the Chargers I'm surprised by. Colts at Rams.
17:49
Uh, this is the afternoon now, the early window of the afternoon, right? The 4:05 Eastern starts. Uh, Colts are three-and-a-half-point dogs at the Rams, total's 49 and a half.
17:58
Is this the game where the Colts come back down to Earth and you're like, "Oh, there's Danny Dimes, there are the Colts"? Or is this the game where the Colts say, "Oh, no, we're, we're for real"? Oh- "We're for reals."
18:09
Well, I think it's exactly that game, Gill. Yeah. And I will be sitting on the sidelines watching. Can't wait to watch this game 'cause this is the, I, that's the prove-it-to-me spot. Yep. Prove it to me, Indianapolis.
18:18
I mean, the Rams after that... collapsed last week Oh, they're gonna be ornery. They're gonna be ready to go this week. McVay's gonna have them ready to go. So if the Colts are for real, uh, they'll show it this Sunday.
18:29
I, I have no bet there. You know another part of the Rams-Eagles finish that we didn't mention?
18:32
I had more than one Eagles fan friend, Sly Bri was one of them, who said that they were so, they were going so crazy on the block kick,
18:41
and they were in such a frenzy, that none of them noticed that Jalen Carter actually scooped and scored it. Oh, that's great. 'Cause they were just going ballistic in their house- [laughs]...
18:51
or, or at the game itself, and they didn't even notice that he scored. Uh, Bears at Raiders. Wow. A afternoon game here at Allegiant, where the Bears trying to win their second in a row.
19:02
Raiders trying to get off the, uh, schneid after losing their last two in a row. This is a pick 'em. Caleb versus Gino. No idea on the side. Lean over here. I think these def- I think these offenses
19:15
are gonna start to put some things together here. They're still two offenses I don't think should be bad. Obviously, the Bears showed it off against the Cowboys, but that, that's the Cowboys.
19:25
I don't know how much of an upgrade the defense, uh, the Raiders defense is [laughs] compared to the Cowboys, though, Gil. I, I think we get points in that game. I haven't bet it yet, though. All right.
19:35
This is, I guess, the marquee matchup of the week, at least on paper. I know the Chiefs has not looked great, but Ravens at Chiefs still qualifies for that. Ravens are two and a half point favorite.
19:45
Extra juice, teetering on the three, but not quite there yet. Uh, though there are threes out there, I believe. Yeah.
19:51
Ravens two and a half minus 120 consensus here at Arrowhead, at GEHA Stadium, or whatever it is, that Arrowhead Stadium. Um, I couldn't believe this was less than three. I guessed three and a half.
20:03
I have a bet on the Ravens. Yep, I'm with you, with you. We're both there. I, I'm, I'm a little surprised there's still as many two and a halfs out there as there are. Uh, this feels...
20:12
I, I don't know about you, I'm not, this, this is not a heavy bet. I'm shocked, too, that we were able to get under three. It's not a heavy bet, though.
20:19
This is, you know, Patrick Mahomes just waiting to, waiting to get after someone, and this could be the game. So we think. I'm not walking into that trap again for, like, the 17th time in my life.
20:28
Barring a tie, one of those teams is gonna fall to one and three. That's wild. That's amazing. It would be stunning if it's Baltimore. If you told me Baltimore had started off this season one and three.
20:41
That would be insane. Packers at Cowboys. This is Sunday Night Football. Remember, we have a double header this Monday. Do we? Yep. No. Or, oh, we do again. On Monday, yep. On Monday, okay.
20:50
Sunday night, Packers at Cowboys. As Kelly mentioned, Packers are a seven-point favorite at Dallas. No CeeDee Lamb. CeeDee Lamb's gonna be gone for multiple weeks as well.
21:01
Uh, Packers not gonna be too thrilled after that loss to the Browns and how that went down. The return of Micah Parsons, I think I'm, I'm contractually obligated to say that. Yeah. Talk about a difference in defenses.
21:13
I think the Packers lay an absolute smackdown on Sunday night against the Cowboys. But
21:19
if there was any game, right, Gil, I mean, you say, you, you, you joke about it, but, like, if there was any game where Jerry Jones would not, uh, would be coming down out of his office to talk to the team and coaching staff of, "You better be ready to go," it's this one.
21:34
I don't know what all that's gonna do, but... All right, we have a staggered start to the Monday night games. Remember, not like last week, where one game basically finished and the other started. Was it last week?
21:43
I can't have eight. I'll run them- The-... to each other already. Yes, a week ago. Uh, Jets at Dolphins is a 7:15 Eastern, 4:15 Pacific start at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. Miami trying to get off the schneid here.
21:55
Jets trying to get off the schneid. Dolphins favored by two and a half. I want no part, no part of this. I, I wanna say Jets teaser leg, but I want nothing to do with it either, Gil. 0 and 3 versus 0 and 3.
22:07
And then a start which, uh, will be what? An hour and a half after this? No, an hour. Hour, yep. Just one hour later. One hour later from Empower Field at Mile High. I had no idea it was called that. Bengals at Broncos.
22:21
Broncos are a seven and a half point favorite, and I mentioned during the survivor segment, the Broncos are in play for me, as well as the survivor play. [upbeat music] I like it.
22:29
Yeah, I, I think I'm gonna stay away from them this week. They are o- one of the other ones I considered. Look, I think, I think the Broncos should be a good teaser leg, too, but not one I'm messing around with.
22:38
Bengals defense is wretched. What's the worst defense to you, that you've seen? I still think it's the Cowboys. Cowboys. Still think it's the Cowboys. Still think it's the Cowboys. Dolphins pretty bad, too.
22:45
Cowboys are the worst so far. I'd agree. Nick Whalen, fantasy, and more next on The Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
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Well, speaking of a regular subscri- subscription, for those who have, uh, VSiN Pro, I did bury the headline for, uh, I had two tennis picks last night, both dogs, both winners. Nice. Uh, on, uh, Antonia Ljusic
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and on our girl Katie Volynets. You remember Katie Volynets. Yep. Taking down Peyton Stearns. So- Beijing? Uh, yes, Beijing on the ladies' side, Beijing. Um, this is a 1000, so it's a big tournament, right?
23:51
Look, just, just below a Slam level. Those two, uh, last night, those two winners, it's five tennis in, uh, five tennis winners in a row, and over 20 units to the positive since the final couple matches of Wimbledon.
24:03
So the hard court season once again just reaping benefits. And it's been weird, too, because since the US Open, the picks have been sparse. There's only been five picks since the US Open, but they've all been winners.
24:17
So again, VSiN Pro subscription, it pays to subscribe. Man, are there some names playing in Beijing. Whoa. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not even gonna try. Not even gonna try. Big tournament.
24:28
Big tournament as they head towards the, uh, WTA finals and the ATP finals on, uh, both the women's and men's tour respectively. Let's talk some more football. Nick Whalen joins us now from Rotowire.
24:38
You can follow him on Twitter at Whalen, but substitute the, uh, letter L with the number one and you will get to, uh, Nick. How you doing, man?
24:46
Senior analyst at Rotowire, I should say, courtesy of Progressive Guest Line. What's happening, man? Not too much, guys. Not too much. Good to be here.
24:53
Uh, you know, got my, got my teeth kicked in a little bit in the, in the millions contest.
24:58
Uh, coming off of a two and three week in week three, so, you know, we've been in the lab, we've been in the mines this week trying to get that turned around.
25:04
But looking forward to talking some ball with you guys as always. You know, that, that- Two and three. I was gonna say- Two and three... that's, that's almost a humble brag.
25:11
[laughs] It's like, uh- You want my 0 and 5, Nick? Yeah. Believe me, believe me, it is not. I really got my teeth kicked in. That two, two and one was pretty... No, no. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. If you- We feel you, Nick.
25:23
We feel you. We feel you. We feel your pain. Yeah. Weeks, weeks one and three. It's, it's been tough. Weeks one and three have been difficult for most. Uh- Yes...
25:29
again, pre-flop against the number, it's, uh, quite the thing in the National Football League. Speaking of which, uh, that doesn't deter us from taking a stab here at your thoughts, uh, for week four.
25:38
Green Bay, we were just going through every game. Green Bay- Mm-hmm... seven-point favorite at Dallas, six and a half-ish, uh, in some spots. Uh, those still exist out there. What is your feeling on this one?
25:50
Yeah, I, I think this is going to be a really popular play. I think it's gonna be popular for a reason, and that does scare me, but I like the Green Bay Packers here, minus six and a half.
25:58
I know you're going out on the road, but I think this is just a massive bounce back spot for Green Bay.
26:03
The, the ultimate letdown last week against Cleveland, you know, to me it was, it was not surprising that that was a difficult game. It was not surprising that it was low scoring.
26:10
It was surprising that they lost straight up. I, I couldn't believe it.
26:13
And it, it feels like the Packers have a couple of these games every year, not where they're losing as an eight and a half point favorite, but when you feel like the game gets away from them early on, and then you have the inevitable Matt LaFleur press conference on Monday where he goes through like seven things where he's like, "Yeah, I probably shouldn't have done that.
26:28
Probably shouldn't have done that." [laughs] He kinda loses his cool in these spots. It's like he, he's a bit of a front runner coach- Yeah... to me, where it's like- Yeah...
26:33
when things are good, things, things tend to continue to go well. When things are bad, when there's some adversity hitting this team mid-game, he kinda loses his mind.
26:41
We, we saw the entire, entire Packers team lose their mind last week. 14 penalties in that game against Cleveland. The offensive line was horrible. I think they refocus. I think they get that cleaned up.
26:50
And you're going up against this Dallas defense, guys, that, my goodness. I mean, bottom three, bottom five in just about every stat you look at.
26:57
I, I think perhaps most damning is how the Bears and the Giants have looked against this team and how they've looked against everybody else. Obviously no CeeDee Lamb changes things offensively.
27:06
You know, their, their game plan basically fell apart once CeeDee went out. We just saw the, the Jake Ferguson raid offense, you know, picking up four yards on third and long over and over.
27:14
They're also down two starting offensive linemen. They might be missing Kenny Clark, Trevon Diggs, DaRon Bland, and nothing we saw last week really changed my opinion on the Green Bay defense.
27:23
So I, I think this is going to be an uphill battle for the Dallas Cowboys, who've actually run the ball better than I would've expected so far this season. Not sure that continues this week.
27:32
So I think this is a spot, uh, it, it, kind of an obvious get right spot, the Green Bay Packers, uh, especially that offense, which, you know, Josh Jacobs right now, 3.1 yards per carry.
27:41
I think this is the game where they, they get right and, you know, could put up 30 plus on what might be the worst defense in the NFL right now. All right. Yeah, I'm, I'm laying some bolts in that game, Nick.
27:49
I'm, I'm with... Hey, if, if you wanna feel worse about your week three, I, I like a lot of the same sides as you again this week. [laughs] So that's- Yeah...
27:55
that might not be a good sign, but [laughs] I think it's Packers get right spot though. Uh-oh. Uh, it's, uh, it's a Nick Whalen segment. Wouldn't be a Nick Whalen segment if we didn't talk about- Yeah...
28:03
his beloved Jaguars, who are at San Francisco. You have a thought on the total here, which is at 47. That's the two and one Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm sorry. Yes. The AFC South second place- [laughs]...
28:14
Jacksonville Jaguars- My respect... through, through three weeks, and prob- should be 3 and 0 if we're being honest. I mean, just a ridiculous loss to, to Cincinnati two weeks ago.
28:22
So I, like I, I don't know if I trust the Jags going up against the Niners on the road. I'm not taking Jacksonville, you know, to, to cover the number here, but I do like the under 47 and a half.
28:32
You know, we, we've talked a lot about Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas here in, in Jaguars land, but really the defense, I, I think has kinda been the story so far for Jacksonville.
28:40
Like shockingly good defense through these first three games. Now, they have played Bryce Young, Jake Browning, and C.J. Stroud, so, so we'll see.
28:47
You know, that, that schedule's going to continue to pick up as the season goes along, but you're catching this Niners team that, like every year, has a ton of key injuries.
28:54
You know, Brock Purdy, it sounds like probably plays this week. We'll see. Anquan Jennings, obviously Nick Bosa now lost for the year. No George Kittle.
29:02
But the Jags defense coming into this game is third in EPA per play.
29:05
They already have as many takeaways through three games as they had all of last season, which really says more about the ineptitude in 2024 than it does this year. They're third in opponent success rate.
29:15
They're second in opponent EPA per pass. Still don't love what I've seen from Trevor Lawrence offensively. I don't really trust this team in the red zone.
29:22
Really both of these teams have been terrible in the red zone so far. So I, I look at this as an under spot where both offenses could struggle. Jags have gone under this number in two of three games.
29:31
Went way under last week. They went way under in week one in what should've been a smash spot against Carolina. And San Francisco, of course, has gone under in all three of its games so far.
29:41
Way under against Seattle, way under against Arizona last week. Both of these teams struggle to generate big plays. Time to buy low fantasy-wise on Brian Thomas Jr.? Look, I, I would like to say the answer is yes.
29:53
I, I, I just, I don't know what's going on. I, I, like the targets have been there. The team target share looks great.
29:58
You know, those are kind of the encouraging under-the-hood numbers that you're looking for for wide receivers.
30:03
And I know he had the big catch and run at the end of the game last week, but I, as a Jaguars fan, like I'm holding my breath when that ball is thrown.
30:10
Like when Trevor Lawrence is throwing a, an open pass to his wide receiver one, you feel like it's a 50/50 chance that he's gonna bring that in. Jeez.
30:16
So like I, I still think there's some kind of psychological things going on with Brian Thomas. He had a couple of big drops earlier in the game. You know, Lawrence kinda started to look away from him.
30:25
We saw a lot of Brenton Strange, a lot of Parker Washington, who led the Jags in targets last week. I, I, you can buy low enough.
30:32
I, I, I think I would The, the problem is, you know, he's one of a, a huge group of, of these elite wide receivers. Guys we were drafting in the top three or four rounds who have been major letdowns- Yeah... so far.
30:42
It's like outside of Amon-Ra St. Brown, Puka Nacua, JSN, I, I guess you could throw Garrett Wilson in there. He's been fine.
30:49
I mean, if you have Neighbors, Chase, Tyreek Hill, Jefferson, Lamb, Thomas, London, McLaurin, Metcalf, Mike Evans, all these guys have been letdowns. Good God, what a list. So it, it's kind of, it's...
30:58
The idea of buying low on him makes sense, but it, it's difficult to work a trade for him. We, we did get one other question having to do with this game, uh, tweeted in from Pick 10- Mm... for you, Nick.
31:08
Uh, wanted to know Murray or Lawrence this week. Yeah. Kyler Murray traded- I, I saw that on Twitter, guys. Uh, I don't, I don't love either of these options, to be honest. I, I'm not a big Kyler guy.
31:18
You know, I, I think, to me, if those are your two options, I'm starting Kyler. I, I know neither matchup is, is great.
31:22
Seattle has been slightly friendlier to opposing quarterbacks in terms of fantasy points allowed so far this season. You know, Arizona does get this game at home.
31:30
Jags have to go out on the road, you know, one of the longest trips you can make in the NFL. So I, I would lean Kyler Murray here. A- again, I don't like either option.
31:39
Like, if, if Daniel Jones is sitting out there, you know, I would, I would start him over probably both of those guys.
31:44
You know, if we get another Mariota start this week, you know, that would, might be somebody that I would look into.
31:48
But I, I don't really like the, the numbers, the underlying numbers, especially for, for Lawrence or Murray. I mean, I, I was looking into this the other day, guys, for Arizona.
31:56
Kyler Murray is targeting his wide receivers 38% of the time. Like, that is far and away the lowest number in the NFL. It's really, really tough to generate chunk plays- Hm...
32:04
when you're, you're checking down and you're throwing to, to your tight end, you know, over 60% of the time. All right. Let's do rapid fire. Let's go 25 seconds on each of these.
32:13
Um, Chargers six and a half point favorites at the Giants in Jackson Dart's debut. Yeah. It, it's a big number. I know they're on the road, guys, but it's, it's Jim Harbaugh.
32:24
It's a really good defense going up against a rookie quarterback. Harbaugh 4-0 straight up, 4-0 ATS. As the Chargers head coach, when facing a rookie quarterback, he's allowing under 17 points per game in those spots.
32:35
So to me, it's gotta be Chargers or nothing there. Impact on Malik Nabers and Sca- Cam Scattybow in fantasy would be? I, I think it's a net positive, to be honest. Hm. You know?
32:44
It's, it's, it's probably closer to a no change in the short term. You know, they do get that Saints match up two weeks from now, or next week I should say, and that, that'll be a much better spot.
32:52
But look, I, I know Russell Wilson looked fine against the Dallas Cowboys. That's the Dallas Cowboys. He's been horrendous, you know, in the other two games.
32:58
So I, I, I think there's really nowhere to go but up, especially based on what we saw last week against KC. You, like Kelly, are on the Titans plus seven and a half. I get it, but I just refuse to. Yeah. Yeah.
33:09
It's, it's, it's a hold your nose play, right? Divisional game, both teams 0-3. I, I just don't trust Houston to run away with a game right now. I mean, seven and a half to me is just too many points.
33:17
This team has reached the red zone four times, four times total in three games, and they don't have a single touchdown to show for it. You know, Tennessee defense is not great, but it's not horrible.
33:26
They've put in, been put in some bad spots. They faced some good teams so far. I, I think this is a low scoring, 17-10 type of game. And under in the game in Dublin, Minnesota and Pittsburgh? Going under.
33:37
I'm going under, guys. Both teams forced a ton of turnovers last week. I think that comes back around. I think we see a run-heavy approach from Minnesota especially. How you doing?
33:44
Jordan Addison, start him in fantasy, yes? Eh, I, I, I don't know if I'm throwing him in right away. I wanna see him first. Okay. That's a good answer. Thank you, Nick. Appreciate it.
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34:10
Back on A Numbers Game, live from Circa. Gil Alexander and Kelly Bedell, who's totally been here the whole time, guys. Sorry, man. I was working on something really important over here. [laughs] Oh, yeah, sure.
34:20
He's come, comes in with no time left on the clock. Well done. Well done. Buzzer beater. It was a buzzer beater. But- I was here plenty of time. [laughs] We get tweets Be in the Book. Anthony Johnson.
34:30
Anthony Johnson's tweet is this. He goes, "Anthony from Seattle has a CD player and a VCR." There you go. There you go, Tone. A CD player is one thing. A VCR? You're still rocking the VCR? You're still using that thing?
34:43
Wow. Yeah, what do you, what do you, what do you need a VCR for? VHS or Beta? Is the next obvious question. I, I, I feel like the only... I was thinking about this earlier when you brought it up.
34:52
Like, the, if you replied, "I've, yes, I can listen to CDs in my car," that makes more sense to me than anything. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't see much of that either. Bond Plate, "Good morning.
35:04
I ordered Mastering Tennis Trading. Would you be able to suggest any other literature? Amateur trying to understand how models in tennis are constructed. May I ask, how did you become a tennis bettor?
35:12
Did you have a mentor?" My mentor, I always say, is Dan, is Dan Weston. Dan Weston, uh, inspired the whole tennis thing for me, uh, from the beginning. Dan no longer does tennis. Dan does cricket now.
35:24
Dan is, like, a, uh, a cricket analytics guy for actual- Yeah... cricket, cricket teams. Do you call them teams? I don't know what you call them. Oh, why are you asking me, man? Clubs, teams? Yeah.
35:33
Um- But yeah, that's pretty crazy. That's what he's doing these days. I would just point you to both the ATP and the WTA websites are much more robust than people give them credit for. I would start there.
35:42
Uh, that'd be my answer to that question. Um, the other thing I wanted to, uh, to point out, and now I can't remember what that thing was.
35:49
But oh, Terry McLaurin, 'cause that came up here when we were talking to Nick Whalen. Terry McLaurin, if he misses this game against Atlanta, and it looks like he might.
35:57
You know how many games in a row he has started, including the playoffs? 76 in a row. Ugh. I wanted to guess. I'm sorry. I was gonna be way off. Danny, what were you gonna say? That is way...
36:06
I was gonna say, like, 30-something, so. 76 games in a row, dating back to week 16 of the 2020 season. It's damn impressive.
36:12
You see what he did, by the way, on Sun- This is what we were talking about in the off season, how much we love Terry McLaurin. You see what he did to Luke McCaffrey? Scored a garbage touchdown against, uh, the Raiders.
36:20
His first touchdown ever. Mm-hmm. Everybody's going crazy, everybody's going crazy. The ball's just sitting on the field, and there goes McLaurin, sprinting from the sidelines to grab the ball from McCaffrey.
36:27
And that's the kind of guy he is. God, I mean, good on him. Yeah. But, like, how did nobody grab it? I don't know. I don't know. Uh, let's talk some NFL.
36:35
Let's talk some Ryder Cup with Siya Nejad, everybody, who joins us now courtesy of the Progressive Guest Line, host and analyst for Sports Line, @siyanejad, S-I-A N-E-J-A-D, on Twitter. How you doing, man?
36:48
Good to see you. I'm doing well, Kelly, uh, Gil. Thanks for having me on. The last thing I remember recording on a VCR, by the way, is the 1992 NBA All-Star Game where Magic Johnson sunk that shot- Yes...
37:02
and they just stopped the game with, like, 10 seconds left. That was his return, if I'm not mistaken. That was the first time we saw him since his announcement that he had tested positive for HIV, correct? That's right.
37:13
Yeah. That was a big deal at the time. Yeah. Um, all right. Since we're on the NFL, before we get to the Ryder Cup, you have a play in the game in Dublin, Ireland. I do.
37:23
I, I, I have questions about how the Pittsburgh Steelers are gonna score against the Minnesota Vikings, and I don't have as many questions about the Vikings offensive side of the ball.
37:30
I like the Vikings minus two and a half in that game, uh, in Dublin. Uh, again, I, I think Carson Wentz is at le- a slight upgrade maybe over, at least at this time, over J.J.
37:40
McCarthy, but I, I don't think he's gonna have a ton of problems against a Pittsburgh Steelers defense that looks... Obviously, they've got some injuries, but they can't stop the run, and they can't stop the pass.
37:49
And then you got Jordan Addison back on the other side of the ball for the Vikings. You got some players back there. The offensive line, I believe, is probably down a guy, but they got Christian Darrisaw back.
37:58
I think this Vikings team is good, and Aaron Rodgers just, I mean, he looks old. He's not throwing the ball downfield.
38:03
I, I don't know that the Steelers are gonna score 17 points in this game, and I think Minnesota's gonna win in coverage. I, I th- I think you're right about the Aaron Rodgers thing.
38:10
I think we're about one or two games away from the Rodgers buzz of, "Oh, man," like, uh, 'cause we sort of, uh, we, we've gotten off that a little bit here in the early part of the season 'cause he has the g- he had the good game against the Jets in week one.
38:24
But I think we're a couple games away from that, that sort of, "He's way past his," you know, "his good days" talk coming in full steam. Uh, okay, and then- Well, yeah... oh, go ahead. I'm sorry, Sia. Go ahead.
38:35
I was gonna say, in his defense, and I, again, I, I agree that he's just... Like, I, I don't think he's a very good quarterback right now, but this receiver corps isn't very good. No. DK Metcalf is a great athlete.
38:43
He's not a great receiver. The other guy, who you going to, Calvin Austin? Like, he's like- Yeah... a wide receiver four on any other team. They didn't bless him with a lot of receivers.
38:50
Frankly, keeping George Pickens to stretch the field, uh, w- with Calvin Austin might have been the play there. All right, and a prop tomorrow night in the Thursday night game?
38:59
Torrey Horton, the wide receiver three who might inch up to be the wide receiver two in Seattle. Of course, Cooper Kupp should have a decent game tomorrow as well.
39:06
But I like Torrey Horton over 20 and a half receiving yards. The books have really reacted to this line, and in some places it's, like, as high as 23, 24, 25 and a half.
39:15
Horton's got four targets over his last two games, 32 yards in each. He was two for four in, uh, week two, three for four in terms of his receptions in week three. He had that punt return, of course, which was electric.
39:27
And he's a guy that the coaches absolutely gush over. He's not on the field a ton, and that's partly 'cause of personnel groupings. But when he is on the field, his route share is very good.
39:36
And again, I think he's a guy that's set to not necessarily break out, but set to incrementally get a few more targets per game. Now, Sam Darnold and company, they don't, they don't throw the ball a ton.
39:47
But with that said, I think this is a competitive game on the road, and I think Sam Darnold's probably gonna have 20, 21 completions, maybe in that 200 to 240 yard range in terms of passing yards.
39:56
I think Horton could break out for a, a big catch. We know he's capable of doing that with his speed and with his hands.
40:02
You could even ladder this at 40 plus, which would get you, like, in that plus 250 range, a- and 50 plus, which you get in that plus 350, plus 400 range. All right, Sia, let's go to the 45th Ryder Cup.
40:13
Uh, Bethpage Black for, uh, in Farmingdale, New York. Team Europe has won eight of the last 11 Ryder Cups. The Americans have won the last two times they played on American soil. Something's got to give on this.
40:26
Uh, USA minus 150 to regain the Ryder Cup, Europe plus 175. You can also bet the to lift the trophy market.
40:33
Remember, if it's a tie, Europe would retain the trophy, so that's minus 150 on the US, but plus 125 on Europe, gives you a little tie protection, uh, tie protection on that one.
40:44
Uh, Scheffler, Spahn, Schauffele, Henrey, English, DeChambeau, Thomas, Griffin, Morikawa, Young, Cantlay, and Burns versus McIlroy, McIntyre, Fleetwood, Rose, Rasmus and Højgaard. We sh- We think it...
40:56
Oh, Rasmus Højgaard. Pardon me. We think it's Rasmus. We don't know for sure. Yeah, it is, right. It is. Confirmed. Uh, Hatton, Lowry, Straka, Ober, Hovland, Fitzpatrick, and Rahm. How you doing with this?
41:05
What are you doing? I, I'm doing the minus 150. A- and listen, I, I get the value on the other side of it, and especially when you look at the top.
41:13
I mean, I, I love what the, this pic- like, the pictures you have up here because when you look at Rory and you look at guys like Tommy Fleetwood, who's playing amazing, guys like Tyrrell Hatton, who can certainly show up, Ludvig, Hovland, like, it is top-heavy on both sides.
41:26
It's when you get sort of towards the bottom where I have concerns about Team Europe. And I know you can hide these guys to some degree, but you can't hide them all, right? You can't hide them all all the time.
41:35
And when I look at the bottom of Team Europe, I, I just think they're outclassed when you look at how, the depth of Team USA.
41:41
I would normally say, "Hey, maybe wait for a better number and live bet this," 'cause minus 150 is, is kind of, uh, expensive. But to be honest with you, I think USA gets out to a pretty good start.
41:53
So I don't know that you're gonna get a better number, but if you hate the minus 150, then wait maybe after the morning sessions, you get a slightly better number. But I am on Team USA's side. On Team USA.
42:03
Again, uh, for those who don't know the format, Friday, uh, four for some alternate shot matches, then four four-ball, the better ball matches. Uh, same thing on Saturday, and then Sunday it goes to the singles matches.
42:13
You have 12 of those. You, uh, you betting this at all, Kelly? Oh, yeah, yeah. I've got a few bets. Yeah, I'll go in tomorrow. What do we got? Long shot's up now. You don't- Uh, went over everything...
42:20
you don't wanna give them away, Sia. He just wants to, he wants to tease. [laughs] It's called a tease in the business. All right, maybe we'll just, yeah, go over it, we'll go over them a little later. Okay. All right.
42:26
I, I see it off, I see it a little bit differently than Sean and Ajad, though. I'll tell you that much. I d- I am on the European side. I am on the European side.
42:32
He's- And then I've, uh, played a couple props to go with that. But I think the, uh, you know, in, in-event betting, it's so m- it's match play.
42:40
It's totally different than stroke play, which Sean and I are usually betting week to week. I think you usually wanna look for bets in between, in between sessions, in between days.
42:48
Yeah, it, it, and correct me if I'm wrong here, Sia. So, you know, the US They, they're, they're used to playing, you know, so that, to, to really maximize the, their side of things.
42:59
It's wider fairways, uh, it's faster greens. Usually for Europe it's, again, the slower greens and the narrower fairways.
43:07
But so many of these European guys live here anyway, so, like, the fast green thing doesn't really affect them anymore, does it?
43:14
No, I would tend to agree with you that, yeah, a lot of these guys live in, in Florida or, or Texas, and, and I, I don't think that advantage, espec- even, like, you know, typically you'd want, like, the European side would have, like, the great iron players and, and you'd have the long drivers on the USA side.
43:28
I- it's really balanced out. A- a- and at this point, uh, to me, you're just looking at who's the better team overall, who's got d- which case-by-case basis on the golfer. Uh, by the way, I, I agree with Kelly.
43:38
Uh, this is not an event where I'm running out to bet a lot of money on Team USA. Yeah. And I, I don't know that Kelly's betting a ton of money to bet on, on Team Europe.
43:46
I, I just wanna point out that this is an event where maybe you, you don't wanna immerse yourself in the betting quite as much. We got the Sanderson Farms next week. That's a normal event.
43:54
That's where I'll be spending a lot of money.
43:56
All right, so you got USA to win minus 150, but you're also taking a Scheffler top US point score three to one, Fleetwood top European point score six to one, top US debutant Cam Young plus 220, and then the top Englishman, Tommy Fleetwood, plus 135.
44:11
All of those. All of those. My favorite of the two are probably the Cam Young and Tommy Fleetwood play at the end there. I, I, I like the Cam Young one. Yeah, I did bring that up yesterday on Long Shots.
44:21
I think he is, I think he shows up big if USA wins here. All right. Mm. Um, again, in a crowded football plus baseball weekend, some eyes will be on the Ryder Cup. Not mine, but I don't know, plus 175 on Team Europe?
44:35
I'm, I'm not- I get it... I'm not immune to betting that kind of thing. Plus 180 behind us. There you go. Plus 180 right back there. Thank you, Siya. Great seeing you, man. Thanks, guys. Siya Najat, everybody.
44:44
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