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Sep 2, 2026
A Numbers Game | September 2, 2026 | Hour 2
A Numbers Game | September 2, 2026 | Hour 2
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[upbeat music] The numbers tell the story. They always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
1:09
Hour number two of a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, SiriusXM Channel, Channel 189. I messed it up first hour. You didn't catch me. Oh, you did? Come on.
1:20
SiriusXM Channel 189. Apparently you did yesterday too. Andrew got in your ear. I didn't hear that. Yeah, the first, the first hour I did. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get there. You know, one day I'll get this together.
1:31
I mean, it's a, it's something you've been saying- Yeah... multiple times a day, five days a week- Man... for a lot of years. 189. Thanks to everybody who, uh, came over with us.
1:42
Uh, still to come this hour, Tim Murray joins us, Tim Murray from VSiN Prime Time and the College Football Tailgate Show, not to mention the College Football Betting Podcast, all of that to talk college football with us.
1:53
Sure. That'd be weird if we talked something else with him after all that. That would be kind of funny. Um, Mark Borch a little later on, Toddy Wishnev, and Nick Whalen- Mm-hmm... all will be on the show.
2:03
Uh, we'll do our NFC power rankings here momentarily. We get tweets beat in the book. Best listeners in the game. Have I mentioned that today? I mean it. Just great tweets. Dr.
2:12
Van Nostrad, I don't know if this is a great one, Dr. Van Nostrad, but I'm gonna have to read it. "Despite Kelly's hatred for Herbert," I don't know what that had to do with anything.
2:20
He said, "If a team goes relatively far in on the playoffs and their defensive end has, like, 16 sacks and one of two of those highlight plays," these, by the way, the punctuation's all over the place, "can he win Defensive Player of the Year?
2:33
If so, can't I find odds on Tuli, Tui Polotu for it? He had 13 sacks last year." And then he clarifies, and thank God, 'cause I needed clarification. Ah.
2:42
"Even though the vote is before the playoffs, you get what I mean, and if Donald's deals two votes for Myles Garrett, that only helps." Okay. He likes, he likes that long shot bet. All right.
2:51
He had good numbers last year. Minky Monkey Man. That is your real name.
2:56
"Come on, Gil, everyone knows minding your P's and Q's derives from 17th century bartenders making drinks with a pint and a quart to track drinks ordered.
3:04
Thought a teetotaler, a teetotaler like yourself would know that." [laughs] Did people- That's right... did people actually know this, or did everybody just go Google it like me? I don't know. I don't know.
3:13
I'm assuming everybody just Googled it. Charles in Connecticut, "Based on that DraftKings betting map, sounds like, uh, Will Hill should consider moving his clan to Tennessee." [laughs] That's right.
3:22
His, his ridiculous love of the Tennessee Titans on the mega bot. Johnny Brock, uh, "Did you do any research on how teams that travel early and/or later to overseas games fare in the following week's games?" I did not.
3:33
What do you want from me? I had to do the first one first, but maybe I should. Oh, Jonathan Doe wanted me to ask Will what kind of wager he placed at the window. Was it a complicated or lengthy wager?
3:43
Well- Happy, happy hump day. That's what I was making fun of him for. 'Cause I, well, look, I have, I have seen the ticket writers get upset over that, and it's kind of understandable.
3:51
I mean, like a busy NFL Sunday, you're seven minutes before kickoff, and you get the guy who goes up to the window and be like, "All right, seven-leg parlay.
3:58
I'm gonna lay it out for you," and then they can't figure out what teams they're doing. Oh. Or, "Where's my money at?" Big Kumbe. Hope I'm pronouncing that right.
4:06
"Were you bullish on an American winning the US Open pre-flop, or was it Drew or the Bear?" It wasn't me. I have Alcaraz. It m- I don't know if it was Drew or, or the Bear. I don't remember either of them saying that.
4:16
Uh, I Heart SEC Podcast has been using Phil Steele's 2026 projections to create hypothetical SEC versus Big Ten challenge matchup lines, projecting point spreads and over-unders. "Check it out," he says. Okay. Good job.
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AyaoyaS69, uh, talking about the Will Hill segment and the whole, uh, whole conflict he had with the ticket writer. AyaoyaS69 says, "Football bonanza? Funny buddy?
4:43
Having a difficult time trying to figure out this whole FB race." [laughs] Football betting. Oh, man. Oh, the RGB commenting on the, uh, the person earlier who just regurgitated everything I said in a tweet back at me.
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Said, "Gil, think of it this way. We're not repeating you on purpose. It's just that Fezzik is rubbing off on us." [laughs] That's right. The great aggregator. Um, Sky High, "Pretty sure Will called her a buckin' Fitch."
5:06
[laughs] Will. Best, best listeners ever. Willie B. Betten. Oh, God. "Love the breakdown of the Melbourne game, Gil. My two cents is I see it affecting different Rams players differently.
5:16
Some will have no problem adjusting, while others will be visibly affected. Could make for some live player prop betting opportunities." That's an angle. Mm. Uh, and then Scotty
5:26
just checked and the handle Whalen Sports is currently available on Twitter. Talk about Nick Whalen now. He said, "Should we shake up the industry and have Nick change it live on air?
5:34
Imagine no more explaining number one instead of the letter L." Man, people give Nick a hard time over this. I've never really got it. Just- Matt, Matt Brown, like, has major issues with this. With, uh, yeah.
5:46
His Twitter handle. I, I- Certain things set Matt off. That's one of them... never really get it. Jesse Welch, "You can bet on exact World Series matchups like y'all did at DraftKings.
5:54
You just have to build it yourself by parlaying both teams to win their respective leagues."
5:58
And he says he's always been under the assumption that minding your P's and Q's stood for parentheses and quotation marks, and it originated from early newspaper writers.
6:06
Okay All right, see, see if you, if you told me the answer that others have come with and then what Jesse sent in and w- said one of these is real and one of them isn't, I would say J- Jesse's absolutely right.
6:18
That sounds, that sounds more right. M- Even, even though I don't think it is Mako, Shades of Mako, "Can we please continue the multiple entry discussion? There has to be a point of diminishing returns, correct?"
6:28
That's the phrase that I've always used. "The large teams are burning a lot of actual money when they get to execute their advantage. Burn money to gain EV. They distribute risk. How is the EV added?"
6:38
I mean, I really, for me, it's just the first thing that comes to mind is Thanksgiving and Christmas, right? Because I've always said there is a point of diminishing returns. That's why I never get 10. Mm.
6:46
That's why I was always like, "I'll just get six." Because you're going to play them proportionally the same way. Eventually you only play one optimally.
6:54
But I do think it makes huge, a huge deal obviously, right, if you get to Thanksgiving or Christmas. That's when size matters, if you will. Yeah.
7:05
I mean, like, come on, if you have, if you have all the mo- if money's not a concern at all, yeah. I mean, of course the, the right thing to do, right Gil?
7:12
I mean, no mat- if money's not an issue, the right thing to do first week is you're putting all 10 on one side on Wednesday or Thursday and then rebuy. Mm-hmm. And then J-Rod,
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very excited for Todd's appearance later, says, "Give Gilly the business, Toddy." All right. We'll see what happens. You ready to do our power rankings in the NFC? Let's do it. Let's go. Plug it in, power it up.
7:31
[engine roaring] Live 105 San Francisco. Yeah, t- uh, we need to get back. Tweet us some good, uh, rock stations that you guys listen to. Classic rock. Yeah. Shout 'em out during that. All right.
7:44
This was a little funkier than the AFC. Ooh, you know, I had more fun with the AFC. Me, that's what I mean. Okay. This was, this was a little, this was a little weird. Let's go 16 to one. Cardinals are 16.
7:55
Sorry Cardinals, you're last. Saints 15. I know that's gonna be controversial 'cause a lot of people think the Saints are gonna win the A- the, uh, NFC South. I... Listen, Tyler Shuck, wildly inaccurate beyond 20 yards.
8:10
You know what? You know what's funny? As much they, as they've been talked about this off season, there should be as much reaction to that as your Steelers one yesterday, but there won't be. There won't be.
8:19
'Cause it's the Steelers. Yep. I got the Giants third to last and the Commanders fourth to last. Giants 14th, Commanders 13th. Don't ever accuse me of being a homer 'cause I think they're gonna suck.
8:31
Talking about the Commodore. I tried to give him some credit the other day and he almost shot it down. 12th Bucs. A lot, lot of AF, a lot of NFC South here at the bottom, right?
8:39
I had the Saints 15, then it's the Bucs 12th, the Falcons 11th, the Panthers 10th. Giving the Panthers a little respect. A lot of Bryce Young has really avoided sacks well, cut down on the turnovers.
8:51
I don't know if he's any good per Kelly Bidlin, but I got him 10th. Then I think we will all have the same top nine. That's my guess. Maybe not.
9:00
I got the Bears ninth, just the defense is just, I can't, I can't make 'em higher because of that. Vikings eight, Cowboys seven, Packers six.
9:12
Remember the Packers have gotten to the playoffs three years in a row at seven. I've got 'em at six this year. And then the top five in the NFC, probably no surprise.
9:19
Niners five, Eagles four, Lions based on schedule three, Seahawks two. I will give the Rams the respect of all their phenomenal off-season acquisitions at one,
9:31
but I do think from a betting standpoint, the Seahawks value is all over the place. But the Rams deserve to be number one. Yeah, well said. Well, uh, well said about the top two. Uh, mine were exactly the same. I,
9:44
c- I love this exercise sometimes- Wow... because the- Our top three are the same, yeah...
9:47
y- because I don't know how many times we've really sat here and talked about like, "Okay, who are the third, what's the third-best team in the NFC," right? I, I don't know, Gil. I put the Lions there.
9:58
I, I, I made my aggressive stand, yes, number four Bears. Okay? I- That's our only big difference here... I'm a believer, I, I'm a believer in Ben Johnson, what's, what's going on there in Chicago.
10:08
I think, I think it could be big. What I, what I w- Is he coach of defense?
10:11
Couldn't decide how aggressive I wanted to get here because what do I really feel like in my heart, Gil, is that by the end of the year, Bears, Vikings, or Cowboys, we're talking about being that third, maybe fourth team in the NFC.
10:24
I'll go with fourth. But heading into the season, like I gotta give the Eagles some credit with that defense is still so dang good.
10:31
Yes, I have major concerns about what that offense is gonna look like, uh, this year with no A.J. Brown there. I think that passing game could struggle again.
10:38
49ers with all the injuries just don't know where to put 'em, right? If we, y- g- going back to like your bet on, on, on the Niners. We've been doing this a month ago, they're probably number three for me. Right.
10:47
Totally. But like, okay, so I gotta move that around. They come in at six. Packers seven, Cowboys eight, Vikings nine. But like three through nine, Gil, I, I think you could make an argument for any of those teams.
10:59
I agree. I think Vikings are gonna be sneaky good this y- this year. A little bit of a tomato, tomato on those teams. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So you are right, we had the same top nine, just different order.
11:07
And then yeah, [laughs] it is funny. Bottom seven, that's where the NFC South belongs. I did start with the Bucs, 10 there.
11:13
Commanders up higher, what, Commanders 11, Giants 12, Saints 13, Falcons 14, Panthers 15, Cardinals 16. Very similar. Mm-hmm. The Bears are the biggest difference. Yep. And they kinda sh- But even l- look man, I- Yeah...
11:27
that was the last adjustment to these 'cause I hated how, how boring on the market I was at the top, and I was like, "Let me, let me, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put one of these teams up there.
11:35
Let me take a stand on one of these teams." Well, what, what's interesting here with the NFC as a, juxtaposed against yesterday, this one there really wasn't any... I guess you could say I had the Saints second to last.
11:46
Maybe you could make, you know, you could quibble about that and say that's a big deal. The AFC though, I had the Texans way lower than most- Mm-hmm... and the Steelers way lower than most.
11:56
Like those are definitely my opinion versus the market. But the other lesson in this, just based on you and me doing this is, generally speaking, we kind of have in our minds a f- a pretty similar...
12:11
breakdown of the hierarchy in each conference. We could be completely wrong. We could be completely right. Most likely we're somewhere in between. Right. I, I, I don't... I will be less surprised
12:24
if there are more surprises in the NFC, if that makes sense. I agree. Like, there's a lot of these teams. Lions, the schedule, I think it just keeps them safe. The schedule makes them three. That's right.
12:33
Like, I don't really know how good they are. Right. Like, I think they have some problems. But the schedule makes them three. Eagles, Niners, Packers, Cowboys.
12:40
Would be a lot of these teams if they were not that great, would not shock me. Eagles defense is still spectacular. Don't know about the offense, but the Eagles s- the defense certainly is.
12:49
Tim Murray, college football next, right here on The Numbers Game. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. That's Toyota affordability, and it all starts with a great deal on a truck from your local Toyota dealer.
13:03
Make a smart buy on the off-road-ready Tacoma or half-ton Tundra, two of Toyota's most capable and longest-lasting trucks.
13:10
Built with the strength for the tough jobs, the tech to power your next big adventures, and the rugged style for everything in between.
13:16
Or discover Toyota's off-road lineup, including the iconic 4Runner and Land Cruiser, designed to go beyond the everyday.
13:22
And with Toyota's proven reputation for quality and reliability, plus available hybrid power on many models, you can get more for every mile and drive for less along the way.
13:31
And long after you leave the lot, your Toyota keeps delivering with great resale value, so you could trade in for more when you're ready for your next Toyota.
13:39
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13:48
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Just make sure you got a funded Edge Boost account. Sign up at edgeboost.io with promo code VSin. Enter the contest today at vsin.com/joe. That's vsin.com/joe. I was sort of, uh, tripping on the break.
14:48
At least, uh, the, when I was at KMEL, I used to have a- You were tripping? You always tripping... yeah, I used to have a listener at, uh, to the Love Zone at KMEL. His name was Kasim So Smooth.
14:56
That was, he used to call from a payphone. This is how long ago this was. Oh my God. He used to call from a payphone somewhere in Oakland, and he used to say to me, "Gil, you tripping like Scottie Pippen."
15:04
That was his big thing. Where, where was he listening to you on? I guess he had a radio. [laughs] It's like walking around with a handle.
15:10
And I, I w- I was tripping on the break 'cause I said this thing about McDonald's updating their signs when I was a kid, and I felt like say- when I was saying that, I was like, "I, I'm a thousand years old.
15:17
I remember that." So I actually looked at this.
15:19
McDonald's used to update their numbers on their roadside signs to show a running tally of total hamburgers sold, starting at one million in 1955 and then climbing over the decades.
15:29
They hit 20 billion in 1976, 50 billion in 1984, 80 billion in 1990.
15:37
The running count stopped and froze at over 99 billion around '93 or '94, and then they had an annual convention, the annual McDonald's convention in 1994, and they decided to replace the updating digits with the static text that read, "Billions and billions served."
15:51
There you go. That's what it actually says now? It says billions and billions served. Billions and billions? Dude, I remember it. Like, there was one on, uh, Tim Murray will, may, may know this.
15:59
Tim Murray joins us now courtesy of the Progressive Guest Line. He is the- McDonald's locations in Washington, DC. That's exactly what's gonna happen. Let's go. [laughs] There is a McDonald's.
16:06
Tim, Tim, you know East West Highway between Bethesda and Silver Spring? There's a McDonald's there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's the one we used- Mm-hmm... to pass, and it would always go with like 35 billion, 40 billion.
16:15
It would, used [laughs] used to update.
16:16
Tim, by the way, the host of, uh, VSiN Prime Time, the co-host of VSiN Prime Time, and listen, it's all about college football with Timmy, 'cause he's got the, uh, VSiN College Football Tailgate Show and the VSiN College Football Betting Podcast.
16:26
Follow him on Twitter @1TimMurray. You remember that one, huh? East West Highway? I do. Yeah, you were, you were, you were closer to the city than I was. I was in Rockville, so I was a little bit further back.
16:36
I remember the day that Cabin John Mall switched from Roy Rogers to McDonald's. Oh. That was a sad day. I, I, I, was a sad day. I was a big fan of the, uh, the Roy's that get- Double R burger, man...
16:48
get a couple drum- drumsticks, and then you go to the fixing bar and just load up on pickles. See? Huh. Ma- Matty Humans doesn't know anything about Roy Rogers. Huh. He doesn't know about that. He probably does. That...
16:58
Uh, does he? Is that- It's old- I've, I've, I've never been in one... when I started working in Frederick, Gil, uh- Oh, Frederick... a couple years, uh, I guess 15, 16 years ago, they still had Roy Rogers.
17:07
That was, that was a big day when I- Oh... started working for the Frederick Keys and I could go to Roy Rogers for lunch. So there, there are apparently a few Roy Rogers still around.
17:15
Didn't we just look this up recently? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was, uh, the double R burger. Oh, yeah. Oh, it was so good. All right, Tim, my, again, I've asked this of a- all college football folks.
17:23
You learn anything from week zero? Anything? Yeah, a little, a little bit. Um, you know, UNC's not as bad as we thought. Uh, I think defensively that they're a capable bunch.
17:33
I think people overlooked that they had pretty good defense last year. They just enjoyed ragging on them. Certainly I did as well. But, uh, the defense is, is capable.
17:42
Schedule's really challenging, but I think UNC probably a bowl team, you know, in that discussion as opposed to, you know, where their win total was.
17:50
Um, you know, Memphis, you don't wanna try to overreact too much, but I think they're a legitimate contender for the bid to the college football playoff from the G6.
17:59
And, you know, I'm gonna monitor North Dakota State here. I was a little bit lower on them. Still a, a little bit hesitant to jump full in to the deep end here on North Dakota State, but they look the part.
18:10
Uh, very athletic. Uh, sh- certainly have the size, but they still have to go on the road To the perceived top four teams in the Mountain West. But I'm not gonna take too much away.
18:21
Look, USC's got studs, uh, uh, as freshmen. Uh, they won by 16, score is very misleading. They're up 35 to three. They took their foot off the gas.
18:29
So if you laid the chalk with USC or took their team total over, I know that was a loser for you, but I'm not gonna take too much away from USC in a, what was truly a preseason game.
18:38
The crowd would tell you it was a preseason game as well out there at the Coliseum. By the way, I, I just mentioned Tim's shows. People should know, the College Football Betting Podcast is spectacular. Oh, it's amazing.
18:49
He's the hardest working podcaster at this network. It's great. And that is two, two guys sitting here that do a podcast. Great, great guests. It's great. All I see in my email all week long- Give Tim a listen.
18:58
Thank you... is, is- Yeah... export from this podcast- Yeah... and it's just over and over 'cause Tim cares and he loves it. He loves the content. Just- Good job, Tim... just, let's just praise Tim Murray- Yeah...
19:07
for the next five minutes. Yep. Thank you. It's great. Thank you. Thank you. Tim Murray. Hey, this has been great. Uh, appreciate it, guys. [laughs] See you later. I appreciate it. All right.
19:14
Let's, let's, uh, let's bounce around the country here. We'll go random. Yeah. Let's start with the, uh, with Coach Prime and the Buffaloes heading to Georgia Tech, where the Yellow Jackets are seven-point favorites.
19:24
Yeah, I feel like this could be potentially... And now look, it's week one. Let's dip our toe in. Don't go too crazy. We're not throwing 10-unit mega locks out there for week one. Maybe some people are.
19:34
I'm not certainly gonna do it. I took the seven here with Colorado, Gil, and you know, it's, it's a bit of a leap of faith.
19:40
You know, it, it feels like Colorado, as we just talked about UNC, nobody wanted to bet on UNC last week, uh, because of just everything that unfolded in year one. It's year four of Coach Prime.
19:51
Things have seemingly gone sideways a little bit. They're not getting the hype that they, uh, had just a couple years ago. Very intrigued to see what this offense is gonna look like. The go-go offense.
20:00
They bring in Brendon Marion, a innovative offensive coordinator. He was at Sacramento State as their head coach a year ago.
20:07
And more so, this is a bit of a fate of Georgia Tech for me, Gil, because, you know, they lost Buster Faulkner, their offensive coordinator. He goes to Florida.
20:14
They lose Haynes King, their quarterback, he's kind of a do-everything type of quarterback for them, and they lost their backup quarterback in Aaron Philo, who followed Buster Faulkner to Florida, and he'll be the starter for the Gators.
20:26
So they're gonna go with Fernando Mendoza's little brother, Alberto. We'll see how good he is. Maybe he's going to shock the world like his older bro did last year.
20:35
But, uh, if you're giving me a full touchdown in a game that I think probably should be lined in that four to five range, I, I'll fully, I'll happily take a full touchdown here with some uncertainty with the Ramblin' Wreck down in the ATL.
20:46
I will give you a full touchdown. Uh, by the way, what price would you have needed year one of Coach Prime that he would still be coaching the Buffaloes in year four? Ooh. 15 to 1. I was gonna say, has to be high, right?
21:00
Well, what's taking so long? There's, there is no way. Why isn't he in Tallahassee? Why isn't he in Tallahassee by now, Tim? [laughs] What are we doing? Uh, you should probably win football games, Kelly- Bang...
21:08
in order to get a job like Florida State. The obvious answer. But the guy who's currently there isn't doing that, so what's the difference? That is also true. He's got a legend.
21:14
[laughs] Tim said, "You should- Look, I mean-... you should probably win"... well, also, we could get into, we could get into finances down there at Florida State. Oh.
21:20
They were looking around for a quarterback, and they had lots of quarterbacks come to Tallahassee and they said, "We'll give you this." They said, "I will leave that door right now. See you later." Yeah.
21:29
And that's why Ashton Daniels is the starting quarterback for Florida State this year. Uh, Will Hill was on earlier. He's taking the Louisville Cardinals plus the points against Ole Miss. What are you doing?
21:38
Oh, I'm gonna ride with my ginger brother. Look, I am infatuated with Louisville this year. Uh, Lincoln Keenholz, an unknown. You know, as we look for the Heisman market, we do this in all sports.
21:48
We try to, we try to buy low, try to buy on the unknown, and that's kind of what Lincoln Keenholz is.
21:54
You know, we saw him get a start, I believe it was in the Cotton Bowl when Ohio State was, you know, had nobody playing against Missouri a couple years ago.
22:02
But everything you heard about Lincoln Keenholz in Columbus when he was the backup to Julian Sayin was the athleticism is off the charts, and this is just a true dynamic athlete.
22:12
And now he goes to Jeff Brohm, who's a quarterback whisperer. And, you know, I think this is, to me, guys, this is the most intriguing game of week one. Um, you know, Nashville, it's a, it's a neutral site game.
22:22
You've got Ole Miss with Pete Golding now as the full-time head coach. Trinidad Chambless comes back for another year.
22:28
He was exceptional, obviously, when he took over the reins, uh, there, uh, for Ole Miss when Austin Simmons got hurt. And you have Keyuan Lacy, who you could argue is the best running back in college football.
22:39
I just have some questions about Pete Golding being a full-time head coach. Did a great job in the, you know, immediate aftermath of Lane Kiffin. Now you've got the off-season.
22:48
And Jeff Brohm, as an underdog, this is a guy you want to back. You think back to two, uh, think back to last year, guys. Two t- two touchdown underdog at Miami, they pull off the outright upset.
22:58
So once again, it's that number. You're giving me a full seven, I'll happily take it. There were some seven and a halfs in the off-season. Maybe we get there, but I did grab the seven.
23:06
I think seven minus 105 still out there at Circa, uh, because I just love backing Jeff Brohm as an underdog. And I'll tell you what, guys, I have a very long shot Heisman [laughs] future on Lincoln Keenholz- Oh, wow...
23:20
at 110 to 1. Wow. That I will look either really smart come Monday morning, or you'll be like, "You bet that guy to win the Heisman Trophy? You're an idiot." We should not listen to the College Football Betting Podcast.
23:30
Don't worry. We once bet, uh, Taulia Tagovailoa for a Heisman, and, uh, within one half, he threw three picks, so I think it could be worse. [laughs] Right before a Thursday night game. Taulia. Come on.
23:39
Yeah, we were smart right before kickoff. Record-setting quarterback for Maryland. [laughs] Were they playing Iowa? Um, maybe. I remember why that sounds right. Maybe, yeah. Oh, that was a Friday night game, Kelly.
23:48
Why you gotta bring that up? Oh, may- there you go. I probably, that's probably what it was. Friday night game, Maryland was catching three. Oh, home dog. This would be a good spot. All right.
23:55
I think Iowa scored another touchdown just five minutes ago- There you are... on that game. I think that was it. It was like 51 to 3. I think that was the game. I think that was it. 30 seconds, Tim.
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It's not an official Tim Murray segment without a Notre Dame Fighting Irish take. They are three touchdown favorites against Wisconsin. I'll be there. Uh- Ooh, ooh... my, my maiden voyage to Lambeau- Wow...
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on Sunday night. Looking forward to it. Not gonna lay the chalk here, but I do think- Just reading the tea leaves a little bit, could be some injuries on Wisconsin's offensive line.
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Uh, Notre Dame, their mantra this off season is leave no doubt, so this could be a whoopin'.
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And, uh, for Notre Dame, if they wanna win the national title for the first time since '88, I think they need to make a statement on Sunday night. Not gonna lay it, but I wouldn't take it either with Wisconsin.
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Just go to Milwaukee, tell 'em you know Tim Murray, everything's free. Boom. There you go. That's what I hear. You know? Thank you, Tim. [laughs] Appreciate it, man. Tim Murray, everybody. See you, guys.
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At one, Tim Murray. Nick Whelan joins us on the other side. Football next. [upbeat music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
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Back with The Numbers Game live from Circa Resort Casino downtown Las Vegas. Gil Alexander, Kelly Bilin. What's up? Overlooking the world's largest, most gorgeous sports book. Yes. Look at that thing. Look at that thing.
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Lights everywhere. Oh, you actually looked at it. Nope, still not there. Still working on the escalator. [laughs] Are they? Yeah? Oh, yeah. The pulley system's gone, though. I'm just... I, I'll say it again.
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There is an escalator outdoors- [laughs]...
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right in the middle of the strip on the east side of the strip right in front of the, the, the Walgreens where Harmon and East La- or Harmon and South Las Vegas Boulevard intersect, where the Walgreens and the Bubble Gum Shrimp and Taco Bell, that part.
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That escalator does not work 96.4% of the time. It's wild. A- a- if, there's so many in this city- Yeah... that, and, and I see. I, I joke about the company, but like so often they're broken. It's just crazy.
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But you get a good like, you can see inside 'em and kind of see how like escalators work. There's a lot more going on there than I th- than I would have thought.
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Then it puts into perspective how crazy some of these are that like how... There can't be any other city in the world where there's more of these, like the three story high ones, right? Oh.
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Like, they go, get over the Stadium Swim one or some of these ones that go up to clubs in these cities, I'm like, "This is- The one, the one at-... they're taking you up three stories...
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the one at Stadium Swim is l- it makes you a little dizzy. Yes. It's a massive- Yeah... long escalator, man. Yeah. Uh, Canarsie Born, 65 on Twitter, "I'd like you to share with the best listener [laughs]..."
26:27
This is a great tweet. We don't usually get one like this.
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He goes, "I would like you to share with the best listeners of the game that one of the many reasons why I love my girlfriend is that she's always railing on me if I'm not hitting 53 per- 53% of my bets. She's the best."
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[laughs] It sounds like you, he had, he had to do that. She's like- I got, I got a follow-up question, though. Is that, does that mean...
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Do you mean unlike, like she doesn't expect you to win every single one, or like she gets mad at the losers 'cause she knows where the cutoff point is for winning? I love that he ends with, "She's the best."
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She's the best. Uh, Sports Dive Only, "The Saints being number 15, Gil, is interesting. You must be fading Tyler Shuck this year." Yes, I am. Not accurate. Not accurate beyond a certain distance.
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Jason McK- like wholly inaccurate.
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Jason McKinney, "I'd be pretty upset if I was behind Will Hill and I heard him call the lady at the counter a farting bovine, especially knowing how bad methane destroys the environment.
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I can't think of anything worse than that." There's his FB. And then people were sending in rock radio stations. Oh, good. John, John Landon, Appleton, Wisconsin, "The Rockin' Apple 105.7 WAPL." Um- Rockin' Apple.
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Good... Enright, he said, "Does this include properly announcing the station?" He said, "WROQ 95, the album station." Not sure where that is. All right, we got a whole bunch.
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And then Las Vegas 514 about, uh, McDonald's [laughs] or Roy Rogers in the DMV. He says, "Yo, a childhood memory that I remember well, Roy Rogers.
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Three left in the DMV area, Alexandria, Virginia, Franconia, Virginia, and Waldorf, Maryland. The Double Burger, a classic cheeseburger topped with a slice of ham. Yummy." That's right, they had a ham on it. Ew. What?
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Bro, it was great. I mean, like, I'd try it, but- Don't, don't-... that does, doesn't sound great... don't sleep on Roy Roger. I've never seen that. I would, I would try that.
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Like, it's not like it's disgusting or anything. Oh, it's so good. I mean, with its, its ham, bacon, whatever it does. You know what it was, though? It was an actual thick burger. It wasn't this- Yeah... bowl, right?
28:23
Mm-hmm. So great. Nick Whelan joins us now courtesy of Progressive Gas Line. He is the co-host of Prop Points, um, the, you know, the football off season, right? Yep.
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With Jeff Erickson, and they give way to John Hanson during the football season. But of course, he's also RotoWire senior analyst. You can follow him on Twitter @Whelan. Yes, the one replaces the L.
28:42
It's Nick Whelan, everybody. How you doing, Nick? Doing well, guys. Uh, I, I guess kind of the former host of Prop Points, at least for the time being.
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I believe the plan is for us to be back after the Super Bowl, just like we've done the last couple of years. But you can find me now on Sirius XM Monday through Thursday, 1:00 to 3:00 PM Eastern.
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So you know, I gotta talk a lot of football this time of year. Eventually, Kelly, in like a month, month and a half, I think I could strong arm some NBA content onto that show, but always good to be here with you guys.
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It's a platoon. It's like Renicki and Lowenstein in left field for the Orioles. Exactly. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I, I can't hit lefties. No. There you go. Can't hit lefties. Okay. Future host of Prop Points.
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Nick, how many fantasy football leagues are you in, and are you happy with all of your drafts? Oh, boy. Uh, man, if we're, if we're counting baseball, we're well into double digits, probably 20 plus, uh, at this point.
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God. But you know, baseball is kind of a different animal. Not a lot of in-season management there. Really none at all. You just do the draft, and then it kind of auto computes for you.
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So I, I have four or five more drafts that I'll be doing still before week one begins next week. A lot of those taking place over the weekend.
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I, I would say I'm, I'm actually happier than normal on balance with my drafts. I, I am just a card carrying pessimist, uh, in general, especially when it comes to anything sports related.
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So like I usually come out of a draft and I'm, I'm thinking more about the picks I wish I would've made than the good picks I made. But for the most part, I, I've left most of my drafts this year feeling okay.
30:08
[laughs] There was one that I did, a, a 14 teamer, uh, which I would not advise.
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There's a huge difference between a 12 and a 14 team league as far as, you know, what your team looks like, how many elite players you're able to get. Uh, that one went completely awry.
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I have, like, one of the worst running back rooms I've ever assembled. I need Travis Etienne to basically have a Christian McCaffrey type of season to have any chance in that league.
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But overall, we're feeling okay as we get closer to week one.
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Last fantasy question: Who was the one fantasy player drafted high-ish in fantasy drafts this year that you, under no circumstances, was gonna pick 'cause you think there is a possibility of a crash on this player, that you just don't buy into this player's success like others do?
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Yeah, I mean, there's, there's two guys for me in round one, and I was in a draft the other night actually where I was picking fourth, and I, I think I've decided that's just the worst pick.
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That's not where I wanna be, uh, because I am not in on Puka Nacua. You know, that's kind of the obvious default Nacua spot.
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Most drafts you're gonna see Gibbs, Bijan, Jahmyr Chase in some order, and then it, it becomes a little bit more of a debate. You could take Jonathan Taylor, you could push up someone like James Cook.
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I took JSN at the one four, but Puka Nacua is clearly the guy with the highest ceiling at that spot. I just, I just can't do it. And, you know, the, the off-season stuff is one thing.
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There's a potential suspension coming. I, I saw there was, you know, something from another ex-girlfriend that came out yesterday. Like, I, I have no idea what's [laughs] going on off the field.
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It's been a terrible last few months for Nacua. But I, I really just worry about the style of play. I mean, he's incredibly fun to watch.
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He's probably the second or third best receiver in the NFL in my eyes, but it's just, he takes so many hits. He has such high usage in that Rams offense.
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You know, last year he was in and out of the blue medical tent, it felt like every single week.
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He, he's just somebody that I, I think coming off of kind of an all-time great season last year, it's gonna be really tough, I, I think, for him to stay healthy enough to replicate that. Nick, what is your most...
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Kelly and I just did our AFC power rankings yesterday. We did our NFC power rankings today, and we, we throw out the caveat, like, "Hey, this is what they are." Mm-hmm. Um, we don't know if we know anything.
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Maybe we're completely wrong, maybe we're somewhat wrong, maybe, maybe we're somewhat right. Uh, what's the biggest outlier for you, AFC, NFC, just to the good or to the bad, who you have higher than market or lower?
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Uh, I think in the NFC, I mean, I'm definitely higher on Detroit, which we, which we've talked about, and that's not a crazy take. I think they have the fourth shortest odds right now to, to win the NFC.
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But I, I think in a... If things break right health-wise for Detroit, I think that could be the one seed in the NFC. Maybe they need a little help from the LA Rams to get there. Uh, I, I'm also higher on Dallas.
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I know they're about 13 to 1 right now to win the NFC. I, I don't know if I'm quite that in, but I, I think this is a really well-coached team.
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You know, we've talked about Brian Schottenheimer as a potential Coach of the Year long shot that I think makes some sense.
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You know, we'll see on the Eagles if they can, you know, survive yet another coaching change in terms of an offensive coordinator, losing A.J. Brown.
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But I think there is a path for, for Dallas to really have a complete season, which is something they haven't done in a while. Usually it's, you know, one side of the ball ends up being great, most often the offense.
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But I, I think they, they at least addressed the things they needed to address defensively. So Dallas is a team that I'm high on. And then I, I still can't quit the Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Hmm... guys.
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You know, we, we've talked about the New Orleans Saints as a team that I like to, to go over their win total. I still think the NFC South runs through the Buccaneers.
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Again, not a team to me that I, I feel like has Super Bowl potential.
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I'm not a huge Todd Bowles guy, but you look around at that division and a- as much as I'm optimistic about New Orleans, I think there's a ceiling there. I'm not a big Carolina guy.
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Who the hell knows what's going on with Atlanta? So I think Tampa Bay is a team that we've kind of cast aside because of how they played down the stretch last season.
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But, you know, if you're, if we're starting to look ahead at week one, I think Tampa Bay to cover four, and maybe even win outright on the road in Cincinnati is something I would look at. Interesting.
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Have you bet any awards in the NFL pre-flop? I, I, I sprinkle in on some long shots. You know, I, I think we've talked about, you know, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, uh, some of my favorite MVP long shots.
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Jalen Hurts is another guy I, I just can't quit. I, I have a group chat where I'm just constantly ridiculed for defending Jalen Hurts.
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[laughs] But, you know, around 30, 35 to 1 at some shops for MVP for a guy who has a top two finish to his name. That's something that I've been looking at.
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You know, Offensive Rookie of the Year, I, I gave out to Sean Stribling at 33 to 1 a few weeks ago, uh, back when I was still the host of Prop Points, and, you know, that is now down to 11 to 1.
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I, I'm not saying I, I feel great about it. It's some sort of lock of the century, but it's just a wide open race I think this year.
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You know, you have some really talented players, but players who are not in great spots.
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You know, Jeremiah Love in Arizona, Jadarian Price, who looks like he might be part of a three-headed backfield now in Seattle when Charbonnet's back.
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Carnell Tate, [laughs] who had one of the worst pre-seasons you could possibly have- Jeez... as a top five pick at wide receiver.
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So I, I think that's a market that I would keep an eye on throughout the season because I, I think we're gonna see that market ebb and flow really week to week because of, of, you know, these talented players kind of landing in bad situations.
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That's how you get somebody like Stribling. That's how you get somebody like Jakobi Lane, who's 15 to 1 right now in Baltimore.
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Um, I said earlier one of the big topic sentences of the off-season for me is the quote unquote "neglect" of the Seattle Seahawks with all the over the top- Yeah... and perhaps justified love on the, uh, LA Rams.
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The other, the sort of the, the most popular bet was the Deshaun Stribling Offensive Rookie of the Year. Like, how many people did we have made that bet? Oh, yeah. Uh, multiple people, right?
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As soon as Ricky Pearsall went down. Three or four or something like that. Uh, not went down, but they decided, "Well, hey, we probably should finally do surgery on this man's knee a year too late."
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That's btb-analytics.com. Skill Alexander, Kelly Bidlin, live from Circa. We get tweets beating the book. Uh, this is from, uh, Down in Jungleland. He says, uh, "Frederick, Maryland, Roy Rogers still thriving here.
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Looking back on my days in MoCo," you know what that is, Kelly? That's Montgomery County. Yeah, 'cause you know I, you, you knew I didn't know. Best donuts I've ever had, MoDos, Montgomery Donuts. Uh, and enjoy- Wow...
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and enjoying Remember When in the DMV talk radio. You'll be shocked at what Cabin John looks like now. Wow, I'm sure I will be. David Donnelly, this is a great question.
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David Donnelly, he says, "We have the, uh, we had eight plays yesterday, six completed. They went three and three. We had two holding over from yesterday, as there were other matches, some haven't even started."
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David Donnelly says, "With so many matches needing to be completed, why does the US Open start the regular schedule before the matches in progress?
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It would seem to me that the players would be anxious to get those done." It's a great question. Uh, I think anybody who follows tennis wonders this initially.
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The, the, the pat answer, uh, David, is that these tournaments, and specifically here with the US Open, they would rather not inconvenience more players and fans. Right, right.
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So in other words, the people who are already scheduled to play when they're supposed to schedule, they'd rather not reschedule them.
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So they just go with that, and the fans who might be expecting to watch certain players, and then they creatively finish the other matches. It, it is counterintuitive, but that's the thinking behind it.
39:04
Uh, Tim Murray's saying, "19 Roy Rogers locations in Maryland, most of any state in the US of A." How about that? T- Yeah, I thought you said, like, six states they're still in. Wow.
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TC says, "Do they have the fixings bar and the Gold Rush chicken sandwich?" I'm sure they do. And Brian Eichorn, "Gil, if Kelly has never been to Roy's, he won't understand.
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Living out here in Vegas for 20 years, I get cravings whenever Roy's is mentioned. Headed back to Jersey in November, I'm hoping there's still a few on the Jersey Turnpike." Hmm. There you go.
39:32
Chance Copperpot, "What do you guys do after a 20 and 0 run? I feel like my bets need to get smaller 'cause I'm about to lose 20 in a row. Shouts out to the Totti chat." Chance Copperpot humble bragging- Yeah, wow.
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Humble brag... apparently a 20 and 0 run. 20 and 0. What are you doing?
39:46
Uh, Chance, I can a- I mean, you know, if it was a real question, I can answer you honestly that I can't remember the last time I've had a 20 and 0 run, if we're being real about it.
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So I don't know what I've do- what, what I would have done after it. I've never had a 20 and 0. I was gonna say, [laughs] like, if I've ever had one, I don't remember when the hell it happened.
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There was a, there was a 2021 tennis run at Hardcourts, which was, like, 23 and 2. I mean, something ridiculous, but it was never 20 and 0, ever. You and I just don't bet that sort of volume.
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Like, I, it would, i- if I've ever done it- Well, I-... it's 15 years ago because, yeah, like, I don't... It would happen in a couple days over, like, college basketball tournaments probably.
40:25
Let's do a couple heat checks here. We'll get to, uh, 'cause we said we were gonna get to baseball awards yesterday, and somehow we didn't. Did I just, like, motorboat over those yesterday?
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Yeah, I, I thought the same thing when, when I was- Afterwards I was like-... putting tweets together today... how did we miss that?
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Yeah, so we'll take a look at, uh, Cy Young and, uh, MVP, which again, three out of the four, Katie bar the door. Let's do a heat check on, uh, win totals in the National Football League.
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We'll do them by conference, starting with the AFC. Wait, hold up real quick, 'cause it's Win Total Wednesday. Oh, it is. Are the guys looking over or under? It's another edition of Win Total Wednesday on A Numbers Game.
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[upbeat music] Let's go. Ryan, the voice of VSiN. That's right. I don't wanna, I don't wanna steal his shine. Robbie always helping with the music. All right, AFC Conference win totals.
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I, my favorites remain what they have been throughout the off-season, which is the Chargers under nine and a half, and again, it's based on their schedule primarily, which after the first two games is a gauntlet, an absolute gauntlet of a schedule.
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Chargers under, and then the other one is the Steelers under, eight and a half, which is juiced a little bit at minus 130. But those are my two favorite. I really, I know Steelers fans are gonna go crazy if they...
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They're gonna just destroy me if they win nine games this year. But I really do feel that this is... And, and we have a Steelers fans, right? I think, was it Jason Stark who tweeted this yesterday? Yeah, yeah.
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He's a Steelers fan, and even he is worried. He's like, "This could be ugly." We might not have enough time for this, but you wanna go rapid fire team by team, just where you would go if you had to? Oh, okay. Sure. Yeah.
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All right, Ravens 11 and a half, if you had to. Oh, if I had to? Yep, all these if you had to. Uh, under. I'll go- And, and I love the Ravens- Ugh... but I'd go under. Yeah, I'll go under.
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Okay, Bills 10 and a half, if you had to. Over, 'cause you got four gimmes. Yep. Over in the- Bengals 10 and a half... in the AFC East. Uh, Bengals over. I'll go over.
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I mean, I guess I lean, I lean them for the division, so I'll go over as well. Over 10 and a half. We should say the number. Chiefs 10 and a half. Well, um, over. I'll go under.
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I'm getting more and more concerned about this Chiefs team as, uh, as we get closer and closer to the season. By the way, the O- uh, both with the Bengals and the Chiefs, I'm thinking 11 in both of them.
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Patriots 10 and a half. Under. Oh, man. I think under two definitely wouldn't bet though. And, and I'm thinking 10 and seven, right? Or nine and eight or something. Yeah. That's where I, yeah.
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I m- then that's where I won't be at the window. I don't think they're gonna stay. Yeah. Texans nine and a half. Over, but not by much. Ah, over, but I think it's like nine or 10, right? Yeah.
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Not what I would be close to betting. Chargers nine and a half. You said that you lean under. Under. I don't lean, I love under. You love under. Yeah. Did you bet this? You bet this? No. Okay. I will.
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Under at plus money, yeah, I'm a little interested in that. Broncos nine and a half. Over. Over. Over, and that's still a win total I am considering. They're a team that I've got circled on the calendar.
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I think there's a spot few, a few weeks into the season that's better for them. Jaguars eight and a half. [laughs] This is the, this is the one where I'm like, "Can I go eight, eight and one and say it's a push?"
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Like, I just have no idea with the Jaguars. I have no idea what I'm getting with them. Do you remember how many games they won last year? Uh, they won... No, I don't. 13 games. Yeah, they won the division. Yeah.
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Matt Brown threw that at me, like, a couple months ago, and it's just, like, things you forget from 20- Absolutely... they won 13 games in the regular season. They were 13 and four. It's wild. All right.
43:44
Steelers eight and a half. Over or under? Under. Under. I'm with you there. I think I'm going to bet a to miss the playoffs on the Steelers. I think that's how I'm gonna, how I'm gonna bet- Mm-hmm...
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against them this year. [laughs] You know, minus 160 I'm looking at right now to miss playoffs. Colts seven and a half. Under. I think there's a dis- a disaster scenario. Completely agree with what you just said.
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I think there's a possibility of that, too. Titans six and a half. Uh, under. Barely. Yeah. Under. No interest in betting, though. Raiders five and a half. Can the Raiders win six? I'll say no. Under. I'ma go over.
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I'ma go over. I, I think there's enough that they can get by there. We're, we're gonna do the opposite- Browns five and a half. We're gonna do the opposite thing on the Browns. I'll say over on the Browns.
44:24
I bet the under, yep. Okay. Jets five and a half. Over. Over. And I might bet it before the season starts. It's one I keep staring at. Dolphins three and a half. You might be surprised by this. I'm going under.
44:36
I don't know if they can win four games. You're right. I am surprised by that. They could be epically bad. They could be. This roster's just brutal, man. Absolutely brutal. NFC? NFC.
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Let's do the same, let's do the same NFC deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll do the same thing. Okay. All right. Starting at the top, we've got Rams 11 and a half. Hmm. It's a big number. I'll answer, I'm gonna answer for you.
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Oh, I- 'Cause I'm gonna go the, I'm gonna go the Dolphins route with you. I could only bet over, but I'm not betting. Yeah. I'm not betting. Over would be the lean, but yeah. Seahawks 10 and a half. Over.
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Lions 10 and a half. Over. Over. Eagles 10 and a half. Hmm. By the way, if I don't answer I'm agreeing with Gil. Hmm. Under. Yeah, under there, too. 49ers nine and a half. Over.
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I- This is getting s- That's- It's just getting worse and worse, Gil. That's one of my, that's one of my two favorite NFC, uh, win totals. Over. I'm gonna... All right. I'll stick with you for now.
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I'm fading the substation. Packers nine and a half. Oh, they're so 10 and seven. They're so 10 and seven. Over. I'm going under on the Packers this year. Okay. Nine and a half for the Cowboys. Over or under?
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[laughs] It goes against my DNA to say over, but I'll say over. I'll go under. They could be great this year. I think people forget how healthy they were last year on the offensive side of the ball.
45:53
Bears nine and a half. Over or under? Uh, they'll be the most exciting nine and eight team ever. Under. [laughs] Over. Vikings eight and a half. Over. Over. Buccaneers eight and a half. Under.
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I'll go over, 'cause like Nick Whalen said, the, they're the only semi-trustworthy team in this conference. They just, they fall into nine wins. Saints seven and a half. Under. Meh. Under. Giants seven and a half. Under.
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Hmm. Under. Commanders seven and a half. Under. Under. Panthers seven and a half. Over. Bet it, bet it heavily. Falcons seven and a half. Under. Wait, did I say under? I bet the under heavily. Oh.
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[laughs] Not the over with Gil. I was gonna say. Falcons seven and a half. Under. I'll go over. Cardinals three and a half. Over. Over. I'm with you. Two, the two- There you go. Our spots on every team...
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conf- the two, the two conference win totals I like the most o- in the NFC. Over Niners... So it was, it was, in the NFC it was under Chargers, under Steelers in the AFC. Mm-hmm. NFC it's over Niners, over Lions. Okay.
46:55
So the bet, the bets that I've made, Panthers under seven and a half, Browns under six and a half as far as win totals go.
47:05
The other, the o- last one I said I'm considering, and I p- I pro- I think I'm gonna bet this before the season, is the Jets over five and a half. You love the Jets. I apologize. Why they got it up there, man?
47:14
You have to play the Dolphins twice. You play the Titans first week of the season, man. I, I don't know. I think they're gonna be okay. By the way, they're playing tennis at the US Open, just none of our matches yet.
47:25
And we got six today and two pending, which we'll recap here towards the end of the show. I got three bets today, man. Let's go. US Open, come on. Kelly Bidlin tennis bettor. That's right. Fire it away.
47:34
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