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Sep 3, 2026
A Numbers Game | September 3, 2026 | Hour 3
A Numbers Game | September 3, 2026 | Hour 3
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They always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
1:09
Hour number three of a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, SiriusXM channel 189. It's Gil Alexander.
1:19
Kelly Billin is behind the glass for the hour because Crack is standing by. I just want to read a couple tweets before we get to Crack.
1:24
Darren Frazier, "After a miserable betting day yesterday, the only thing that can make it better is the smooth voice of Gilly with Skinny Kelly and the Hall of Famer Bill Krackenberger.
1:31
Thursdays are like the best elixir for the worst hangover ever. Let's go, boys." Thank you. That's very kind of you, uh, Darren. And this is from, uh, uh, this is also from Montreal Max. Oh, this is a great tweet.
1:43
He says, uh, "Really great job by Gil with his questions during the interview with Jay Cohen last week that Crack lined up, but it does bump our Billy, and we need our unscripted fix, so maybe a half hour of Bill before or after when a guest gets booked or even the next day as I do his PR work for him."
1:59
Well, I hear what you're saying. Without further ado, unscripted with the Crack Man, Bill Krackenberger. Let's go.
2:04
[upbeat sports music] Billy. Texting it out. We are live. Because a lot of people like to know, a little reminder. Oh, a little te- There you go...
2:22
a little live text from you there. There you go. You know, tweet. Tweet it out. So, uh, but I was on an extra segment before Jay Cohen last week, Max. Right. Right? I ha- you guys had me in here at 8:40, I think.
2:32
Yes, we, 8:45. So there were- 8:45... two, two Billy segments before- Yeah... we did Jay Cohen. But a lot of people didn't know. A lot of people didn't know. And so I try to put that we are live out there. Yeah.
2:38
And yes, I, I, just to let you guys know, I had Jay on my podcast a week before, so I told Gil the night before at dinner, I said, "Listen, you're gonna take the lead tomorrow night. Ask him all the questions you want.
2:47
I already asked him questions." So- I was- And everyone wa-... I was a question hog. But- I was a question hog. No, no, but you, you, you were, I, I gave you permission to do it, so. Yeah. Uh, but yes. You did. You did.
2:57
No, but e- e- everyone said what a great inter- the people that mattered- Yes... you know, we're in s- we're so, as Gil, this is Gil's words, not mine, we're so close to the sun that
3:08
I see the views, and I could see the views of maybe like 3,000 views on, I, I don't know.
3:14
I, I r- I really don't know the number, but, you know, where I get like 10,000 views or 15 or 20,000 views sometimes on, on, on the YouTube, where it was like 3 to 4,000 views or whatever it may be, a couple thousand views.
3:24
You really have to know the industry 20 years ago to understand- Mm-hmm... who, who Jay was and who Jay is. And, and let's face it, Jay is, um- He's challenged...
3:33
Gil and I know where he lives now, and, uh, he, he's living very, a very menial existence. He really is. In a very little apartment, small apartment. He's got a bunch of problems. And, uh- Yeah...
3:46
he, he's, he's trying to get through them, so. It's a incredible story because it is an amazing risk-taker, is amazing entrepreneurial story. Um, it is amazing legal story.
4:01
It is an amazing reflection of how power can simply ruin your life if they're not in on it. And then sadly, it's, it, it, it even gets worse from there, right? Where
4:17
people, you know, a person committed suicide in, in all of this. His partner, um, did so. And as you- Killed himself on the day- Killed himself... they, they, they, uh, they closed.
4:26
And, and in the s- I know all three of those guys. Yeah. Steve, Hayden, and Jay. And, and it was Steve who committed suicide.
4:31
And, and as we pointed out during the interview, it was Steve who, the way that his brain worked, it was merely a, a function.
4:38
He was the, he was the guy that made all the lines, pre-flop and, and in-game for World Sports Exchange back in the day. For him,
4:45
offing himself, for lack of a better term, was a, also was a probability and a calculated mathematical decision. Yeah. Yeah, they- Yeah... uh, amazing. I was shocked back then.
4:57
Even though a lot of those companies went out of business, I was shocked World Sports Exchange were out of g- went out of business. And Gil did not hold, he didn't hold any punches there. You- No, I did not...
5:07
you told him that, you know, people are gonna be mad at you. Yeah. And in the comments of my show, there was a lot of people said, you know, "I'm, I'm owed so much money in this, and I didn't get anything."
5:15
And, uh, he wrote this book because he had no money. He needs money. I mean, he, he's applying for jobs which they're telling him he's not qualified. [laughs] That's so, that's so ridiculous.
5:25
So he has an HR person- Yeah... that works for the company. Um, you know, and, and this, this one, th- uh, she didn't, she doesn't even know what 11 to 10 means, but she says, "Oh, sorry, Jay, you're no good."
5:35
We invented live betting, political betting, uh, cash out options in our own, you know, stock market kind of way, better than what you see in, in sports betting today, and yet he's unqualified for these jobs.
5:46
And, you know, he said I'm old, but I think he's like my age. Like, like it's like in the mid-50s. I don't, I don't think he's even that- Well, it wasn't only the, the, it was a couple questions I wanted.
5:53
It wasn't only the question about, you know, you're gonna have people who got stiffed, right? They were left holding the bag.
5:58
I even had a, we even had a coworker here who texted us after the interview, "I love that Gil asked the question, but I'm still mad at the guy." Oh, I didn't know that. Right? Yeah, we even said, he said- Oh, you did?
6:05
... "They owe me X amount of money," right? Okay. They still believe, you know, to this day, they're like, "This is what he owes me."
6:10
Uh, but the other question I really did wanna ask, and I did ask of him, was- I get that all of this went against you, right? You and I didn't get a chance to talk about this afterwards last week.
6:20
I get that all these things happened to you. You got, and talking about Jay, he got railroaded by the justice system, by the leagues, by that horrible judge that ruled against...
6:32
It was just such a, an imbalanced courtroom because of that judge. I accept all of that.
6:38
But after all was said and done, when you served your jail time, that was the part that, and I actually texted a little with Roxy about this, that was the part that it was like,
6:50
ugh, could you have played that, a- after all the calamity that happened to you, would you like to have had the rest of the back? And he was very, he almost was like, "What did you want me to do?" Right?
7:00
I don't know, man. There was a, I wish he hadn't renounced his citizenship. I wish he could go visit his dad. Oh, amazing. He would still have more opportunities, I think, in this country had he not done that.
7:12
One of our followers asked why we didn't, uh, uh, ask that, and I don't know why. But- Which part? About what? Uh, uh, J- Jay, what's the reason why? You just, you were that mad that you just gave up your citizenship?
7:21
There's a part in the book, I read the whole book. Okay. There is a part in the book, and I can't remember what the detail was, but he glossed over it in the book where he said that was the final straw.
7:29
And it was something very sort of random, where it was just an accumulation of everything, and finally he just snapped on it. Right.
7:36
And he, yeah, he re- and by the way, he does make a point though to say that when he did make the decision to renounce his citizenship, the, the, the officer of, of the government that was, you know, that administers this said to him a couple times, not just once, "Are you sure you want to do this?
7:52
You understand that there are implications that once you do this, you can't go back on this?" And Jay was like, "Yes, yes." And so- Yeah... yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a tough story. It's an amazing story.
8:04
Gil, let's start out- The name, the name of the book, by the way, Odds Man Out. Oh, Odds Man Out. Yeah. Definitely.
8:08
And everyone that, and e- everyone that I know from the old days, I mean, literally I only talked to like three or four of them, all of them, they don't even know each other, and they all text me months ago and said, "You gotta see this book-" Yeah "...
8:19
Jay Cohen put out." So. Easiest way to get Odds Man Out? WSEX.com. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. They, they opened up the old website. Yeah. Oh, God.
8:27
He said, uh, by the way, off air he told us, he goes, "That was a whole thing." 'Cause I was like, "Did you have the URL the whole time?" He's like, "No, we had to, like, get it back- Off the stadiums...
8:34
from, like, from Kentucky. Kentucky? [laughs] God. It was, like, some random thing. Yeah. Wow. So let, let's start out with, uh, some of the wackadoos in town, all right?
8:43
[laughs] So, yeah, sorry to who- Wa- wackadoo Radio, here we go... some of the wackadoos. The Pope of Greenwich Village, people know that saying from there.
8:48
[laughs] Uh, there's, there was another movie too, but anyway, like, do you ever see these guys that just hang around the, the counter and terrorize the staff? Oh, yes.
8:59
So this is, uh, Gino Savo Savastano, and a nice guy. I've met him mul- multiple times. And he's trying to sign up, so I'm, I'm gonna turn the volume down. He's trying to sign up for the contest here,
9:11
and it, you got this guy that just, i- is just, um, a, you know, he, he's, he's an eye baller, and he's a, just an eye baller. "See what you got. Let's see what you got there. Let's see."
9:21
Like, I, I was at line at the Wynn one time, and someone comes up to me online and, like, looks around, "Hey, uh, how you doing? What are you, what are you, what are you doing up here?"
9:27
And you're behind him like, "Can I make a bet, please?" Yeah. No. "Move out of the way." But, but I have h- seen this multiple times. So I was at the South Point last week making a video for Chris Andrews.
9:35
I'm gonna promote their, they have a $25,000 contest, um, and it's gonna be an overlay, by the way. Five bucks for, f- a free selfless plug here. It's $5 to get in. Pro or college? What is it?
9:45
It's a pro contest they have- Okay... every, every year, and it's, uh, you pick all the, like, uh, the games and, and it's $5 winner take all.
9:52
I'm sorry if I'm not explaining it correctly, but that wasn't the purpose of me talking about this. But every year it's an overlay, so I say for $5 you gotta do this. And I, I'm waiting for this guy.
10:04
He's walking back and forth talking to the risk guys. Now that's a terrible job. Um, they, they, thank God they moved the risk guy. If you go to South Point you'll see to the left there's a desk there with supervisors.
10:15
The wall's a little bit higher, but you can still see the, the heads of the, the people that were in risk. They actually
10:22
moved the risk to the back room for the most part, uh, because they were all out there originally, but these people terrorize you. You know what I mean? The, the, over everything, you know? So,
10:32
ah, I see this guy talking to the one person who is there now, and, and I just said, "Let me wait for him to go by," 'cause the, the, the billboard is up front by the counter there, but I don't want... I hear him.
10:43
He has a loud voice, but I have a loud voice, so I'm not trying to call him a big mouth or anything, but he just had a loud v- and the end he was a big mouth, but- [laughs] Uh, so I'm going to, I wanna- Side note...
10:51
I wanna take this video of this bulletin board and talk about how this is a really good EV contest for five grocery dollars, and the guy just won't leave. And he's asking the dumbest questions to the guy.
11:03
Here are some of the things he's saying. And, uh, y- you know, he's basically terrorizing the staff. Finally, he moves over to the tellers. I say, "Oh, good. Here's my chance." I go up to the counter,
11:12
get the phone out, go to tape the thing. Here he comes again. Here he comes again. And I said, I was nice to him. I said, "Sir, I'm making a video for them." He goes, "Well, I should be in the video."
11:21
I couldn't believe it. [laughs] I said, "What? What?" He goes, "I'm 70% lifetime. I should be in the video." 70%. Yeah. Y- I mean, Chris asked him, these guys at South Point have to know this, this, this wackadoo.
11:32
I mean, they have to. Now he's a big guy too, but he just, he was so arrogant and just like, you know. Listen, you could be that arrogant and you could terrorize the staff. Hit the hit, pal.
11:42
[laughs] Make sure you're giving them money to t- for, to take, you know. Make sure you're tipping. 'Cause, you know, they, they take all this, it's basically abuse.
11:49
Um, you know, f- it's tough to have a risk department up front or anyone up front. They, they, I have seen this.
11:54
I went over to Tuscany, which is a circle location, and I went to go to the sports book to enter a contest last year or two years ago, whatever it was, and, you know, I wanna enter 10 entries.
12:04
I wanna put 10,000 up and again, enter 10, 10 entries in the, in the survivor. And, um- This guy won't leave the counter. I'm like, "Oh, man." You know, he didn't look like the best kind of guy.
12:14
And, and sure enough, I, I actually got mad at the supervisor. I'm saying, "What are you doing? Get this guy out of here. I, I wanna be able to- You were making, you were making hand gestures. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
12:22
I wanna sign up for the... I'm waiting to sign up, and I don't wanna pull out money in front of this guy. Yeah. You know, but, um, anyway, I just wanted to... I, I get it. I get it. I get it, Salvo. I get your pain.
12:31
The, uh, the South Point is a particularly great place of characters. Uh, one time I was at the ticket window there, and someone at the next one recognized me, was like, "Hey."
12:38
He extended his hand, I shook his hand, and, uh, Elba, who was behind the, uh- Yeah... the ticket- Yeah... the ticket writer, without saying a word, she quietly shoves a hand sanitizer to me [laughs]. Wow.
12:47
It's just- That's funny... they're, they're aware of all the goings on there. That's funny. Coming back with Crack. Numbers game.
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13:16
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13:21
Uh, Cheap Prop Bets on Twitter, "Do you guys think Jay Cohen was blackballed or, or was told he was overqualified, but the reality is that he was blackballed?" Um, I don't know about that. I j- What, for, for new jobs?
13:33
Yeah. I just kind of think that these people are dumb and they don't really recognize who he is. Yeah, I think it's that too. Yeah. But interesting that he says that- Yeah...
13:39
blackballed though, 'cause I really didn't give that a thought. You know? Chris- If they, if they do some searching... Chris of St. Barts, weekly nifty reminder. [laughs] Oh. He, he says, "Get him on please.
13:51
Also, Carbone versus Carbone Riviera versus Italian American. Go." Oh, I can talk about that. Wow, we're talking about two different joints. I mean, you're talking about- Yeah...
13:58
one place that's literally half the price, if not 60% less. Italian American. Italian American Club, and mom and pop food. Off-strip. Off-strip. I, I, and, and the atmosphere, I, I, I like Italian American Club.
14:11
Carbone's the best gourmet, uh, you know, that, that's, um... I wouldn't be going to Carbone if it wasn't for Gil. Gil, you know, he likes the bougie Carbone. I'd rather be at the Italian American. [laughs] This guy.
14:22
No, but- Uh, and then Carbone Riviera, which we've, we've been to far less. Yes. They got a couple things that are out of control. Yes. Yes. No, the, the price, I mean,
14:32
I, even Carbone, they, they try to sell you the steak. Thank God we have a good waiter. They try to sell you the steak. Do you know how much the steak is? No, I never- The steak for the table? No.
14:41
'Cause I, I got sucked in the first time with a different waiter. The steak? Yeah. Oh, I see. He goes, "Oh, we have this fabulous rib eye steak." Oh, I see. "It's on a bone," and- I've rarely done that at Carbone... 350.
14:49
Oh, that's it? Yeah. Oh. 350. And you wanna know the truth? No. I even told the guys, "Buddy, I, I go to steakhouses all the time. This is just okay at best." 350 it was for the steak. But, um- Shout out to Troy...
15:01
Oh, Troy's our waiter. He's, he's great. And, um, one of my favorite meals in the whole city is that, it's, uh, the pork chop with peppers. Yeah. That is one of my favorite- God...
15:11
meals in the whole entire city, and it's about 65, 70 bucks I guess. I don't, I don't know what it is. I went even further off menu the other night there.
15:17
But Carbone Riviera, if I, my recommendation, if you ever get to Carbone Riviera, the pasta AOP with crab. Wow. That is my recommendation- Yeah... at Riviera. Yeah. We love that place though. Yeah. We love Bevets.
15:27
We love, uh, Mother Wolf. Mother Wolf is the jam also. Yeah. Uh, I went, the other, Monday I went to, um, Michael's. Michael's was fantastic. I forgot how good that place was over at the South Point.
15:40
Uh, literally- Old school... it's a special place if you wanna- Yeah... take someone for an anniversary or a big event. Um, it, it, it's one of the, also one of the most expensive restaurant.
15:49
You have to have a comp, let's just face it, and Monday night's half price. If you have your points- Oh... I can't believe Michael's is on that list. It's all the restaurants in South Point.
15:57
If you have player points on your card from sports betting or the casino, Monday nights, wherever restaurant you go, it's 50% off using your points.
16:05
So the meal for three of us was 450 bucks the other night, and it was only 225 using your points. So, uh, yeah, that, that, that's a great little perk.
16:16
Uh, Bobby Getty's, weird comparison here, but speaking of Pablo Torre knowing about this Kawhi situation way before punishments came down, Eminem had been saying Keith D murdered Tupac and Biggie in his raps for years.
16:26
Eminem, best rapper of all time, by the way. Uh, didn't, didn't think I'd be comparing Eminem to Pablo Torre today, only on a Numbers Game. Well done.
16:34
Uh, Jared Still, "I genuinely get excited for the Crack Man intro music. Have a great long weekend, fellas." Um, Patrick Kelly, "I will exceed my tweet limit. Does VSiN have a page listing all terrestrial radio outlets?
16:47
I know it's getting old school, but if I was traveling, I would support them." Do we have a page like that on the website at all? Anyone? Noonan? No? Nobody? Okay.
16:54
I, I'm not sure if we do, Patrick, to be quite honest with you, but I will, uh, I will look into that for you. Um, Tony Hernandez, "I love Thursdays. Who better than Crack to tell it like it is?
17:04
Good luck this football season." Thank you, Tony. And, uh, Juan at, uh, Number Juan Degen, "Thank God it's a Thursday. Need my weekly dose of Crack." Well, Bill Krackomberger is here.
17:14
@BillKrackman with a K is his Twitter. Wise Cracks is the name of the podcast. Randy McKay on this week. Ooh, wow. What a, this is a special episode.
17:21
If you guys want, uh, you know, a plethora of, uh, advantage sports picks, Randy broke down every division, um, uh, uh, you know, in, in the NFL, and did a great job. Some of them real long shots.
17:33
Like, um, I was surprised to him to say that, you know, I l- was going by BetMGM reading down each one, 'cause they have a first, second, third, fourth you can bet each, each, uh, each team to come out.
17:43
Yeah, exact, exact is. Yeah. Yeah. But not even his exact is. You could bet him by himself solo. Uh-huh. You could bet literally like Arizona to come in fourth in that division- Oh, wow... which they should.
17:53
Uh, you have to lay 20 to 1 on the no, and Randy's like, "Well, I'll tell you right now, I like them at coming in third at eight to one." But th- so that's just a...
18:01
But, you know, it's hard to bet in these one-way markets, but sometimes you may find a gem or two. And like Randy picked Minnesota to win the, the division, and that was their, they had the longest shot.
18:11
They were picked fourth. Yeah. They were five and a half to one, and he picked them. He's- Very popular pick from, from the experts this off-season. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
18:18
Well, they had, they haven't got the money the last couple year. Well, remember they started out a couple years ago, like someone will tell us, seven and O eight? No, they, they really started out great.
18:25
Um- That was two y- two years ago... two years ago. Yeah. But last year did not, uh, the quarterback situation there. Uh, so also I put one up on my Twitter today, one...
18:34
I, I forget the one he picked on the Twitter, but he picked one on Twitter that he liked. I th- think it was Denver. Picked Denver.
18:39
But he, he went over every single one, plus he, he's, he's a kind of a specialist in the FCS. Yes, he is. So, uh, he's given us some great college hockey over the years and, uh, some- That's right. He- Yeah... has, yeah.
18:52
And, and these games that are on Saturday still are not lined here in most of the sports books. That's why we can't give it out yet. Caesars has it- Yeah... and then, uh, well, watch the show. You can... He gave it out.
19:04
Oh, on your, on your podcast he did? Yeah, on the podcast. Oh. He gave out, like f- four of them. Okay. Because Caesars, DraftKings, FanDuel, BetRivers, and, um, some of those places have it. Oh, they do have it? Okay.
19:14
Yes, they all have them up. All right. And that's... Let me tell you, when you give out something, that's...
19:17
Most of the country has one of the new sports books that are, uh, I say new, that's been seven years or eight years. Uh, so, uh, it's just, it's not good for Vegas unless you have Caesars.
19:28
But, uh, so he did give some of them out on the show. I, I tweeted it out, uh, one thing there, and, and the link is on my Twitter. And, uh, Randy did a great job.
19:36
He'll be with us, uh, via, via the computer though, via, via, um, I guess the stream yard they use. So he'll be on throughout the year.
19:44
But Randy comes back into town every once in a while, and he was here, uh, to see Billy Idol last night, and he had the extra ticket and I turned him down- Oh... to go see Billy Idol last night.
19:54
He sent me some videos of it. Wow. It w- I, there's so many songs by Billy Idol, you know, that I think, "Ah, Billy Idol. Yeah, he's got a song or two I like. Thought it was okay."
20:03
How, how old- He kept on sell- sending so many vi- videos, like five songs. Of course, I knew them all, but they're great songs. I guess Billy Idol was that big in the '80s. Was it the '80s? Is that right?
20:13
It was the '80s, yeah. Yeah. It was the '80s. So he was over at Fountainblue, and, um, it was like Duran Duran. Go to Duran Duran show and, and y- you think you know four or five songs, and I knew all 13.
20:23
Like, so that was, uh, so Randy was here in town. We, we did a show yesterday over at the... Fezz and I did a show at Dom DeMarco's yesterday. Uh-huh. With, uh, uh, Jim Feist, we did a show yesterday.
20:35
Uh, and that's also on the, on the internet, which was... Fezz and I gave out some great information there, talking about all different things throughout for the season.
20:43
It's about a 45-minute show, so that's another show we did yesterday. Jim Feist always says to me, "How is producer number nine so much more than a producer?" He always says that to me and Kelly. Wow. Yeah. [laughs] Wow.
20:53
Wow. He's such a nice man. Jim, uh- Yeah... yeah, just getting over stage four cancer somehow. Wow. Oh, man. Yeah, he, he, uh, he, you know, he's a health guy. Yeah.
21:02
And, and, uh, he, you know, he, he goes to Cleveland Clinic. I mean, he just, uh, really, really fortunate for him. Um- Ricardo asking, "Is Crack doing the, uh, Fox kickoff show this season again?" Um,
21:14
to be honest with you, I, I, well, I, I do my Fox Sports Radio show on Saturdays, on Sundays. So that, that's what I do on Sundays. Okay. Uh, 6:00 to 9:00. It's gonna be 7:00 to 10:00 though starting week one NFL.
21:26
Uh, East Co- let's, let's use East Coast time. You know, I noticed that w- after being in this media space, I always use my time. That's not the way you're supposed to tell a thing.
21:33
You're supposed to tell someone a time Eastern Standard Time. So 10 to 1:00 PM Eastern Standard Time is going to be, uh... I thought it was over, to be honest with you. I thought it was the greatest run ever.
21:45
[laughs] You know, four years of Fox Sports Nationwide Radio, 500 networks, lucky as can be. How could a street kid...
21:51
You know, these guys are all college-educated football players, and I'm just, you know, barely graduated 12th grade, I'm on there talking.
21:57
I thought it was all over, and sure enough, last minute, a, a new sponsor came in and, uh, took over the show. 'Cause I, I, I wasn't... I, I want, I want my Sundays back too, my Sunday mornings.
22:08
Just when you thought you were out. I thought I was out, and I was actually happy. I'm fine. It was a great run. Let me get back to my Sundays.
22:13
A new sponsor came in for, you know, the rate I was getting, so I'm, I'm, uh, I, I'm happy with that. Unfortunately, the sponsor is illegal in one state in the nation. You happen to know where it is. Nevada. Yep.
22:25
You're all just our guest. I know I say that too much, but we're geo-fenced away from seeing their... I even went on DraftKings. I think I told you. I went on DraftKings. I can't get their lines no more.
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I just wanted to see if Kings were real. You can't even get... Yeah, you can't even get their lines anymore. I can't... Now you can't even get their lines here. Like, oh, God. You can on l- you can on your laptop.
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It's just the mobile you can't. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, so la- laptop. All right. That's good to know. Uh, yeah, this is, uh... I never really heard of Underdog. Underdog.
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49 states you can get the lines. You can't get the lines here. Even their fantasy, their different kind of contests, can't get... So it's tough on a Sunday morning now. Y- yet last week was the first week of their...
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I, I, I'm, I have to have my co-host send me what they're gonna talk about 'cause I can't see the lines. Now, listen, I know these pe- of course, I got a text and someone said, "You could just use a VPN."
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Listen, I, I don't wanna use a VPN. No. And someone saying, "Oh, you used a VPN. You set the out of state." Yeah. No, no, no. You know, um, I, I don't. I know people do that with the DraftKings and Fanduels and stuff.
23:21
They use these different, not even a VPN. They, you can control someone else's computer in New Jersey or something. I'm with, I'm with you. I am not doing, I'm not doing none of that stuff.
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That's a bridge too far for me. I'm not doing none of that stuff. Yeah. And God bless you. I hope you guys kill them, but, uh, I'm not taking part in that. Eagle. Eagle Strap Tech on to the third round.
23:39
Looking good so far. More with the Crack, but we've got a bunch of questions, including, uh, more restaurant questions for Crack, multiple. On the other side, it's Bill Krackomberger, Unscripted.
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It's a numbers game at Vsenn, V Sports Betting Network.
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Back on a numbers game on a Thursday, the 11:00 AM Eastern hour. You know what that means. Unscripted with the Crack Man, Bill Krackomberger.
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That's him right there on your screen to my right, or to my left, to your right, @BillKrackman with a K on Twitter. Wise Cracks is the name of the podcast. Uh, we got tweets. Been in the book.
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Uh, Jay Buckley, who just took a picture with you, I guess, as we're out there for, we're out there for week two NFL still trying to line up a meal with Bill on me. Oh, that's not, uh, maybe, maybe not today. Yeah.
24:34
Great guy. But that was at, oh, that was at the Superbook. There you go. Great guy. Great guy. Uh, Purple Kevin1111, "Gil is right. I use, uh, the DraftKings website for work and always see DraftKings and FanDuel on PC.
24:45
Can't get it mobile, but you can get it on PC- Oh, nice. Good to know... in Las Vegas." Uh, this from Del Mind the Gap Radio, "Jersey street smarts, better than a Stanford education.
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Don't sell yourself short, sir," he says. [laughs] Thanks, pal. Brock Landers, "Since we're talking, uh, some Vegas food, how about the Palace Station Oyster Bar?" Oh, yeah. Always a line.
25:02
He said, "I love that place and know when to go to avoid two-hour waits." [laughs] I once waited th- like, when I was, this was like 13 years ago. Yeah. Three hours- Yeah... for that oyster bar. Still there.
25:12
They renovated it though, right? I think so. Yeah, the, the whole casino is done. They did a great job on the casino. But still 14 chairs.
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So the oyster bar is literally a bar in the middle of the Oyster Bar Casino floor. Yes, right by the crap tables. Right. Across from the crap tables. It's 14 spots.
25:27
The guy behind the counter was like, you know, at Yankee Stadium when Babe Ruth was playing. Right. And, but the pan roast, and the jambalaya, and all the stuff you can get there, the, the oysters the size of your head.
25:38
Why is that one better than all the other Station- I don't know... oyster bars? I don't know.
25:42
I've been to the Durango Oyster Bar, and, uh, I, I've been to one other, other one, a- a- or maybe it was just a different oyster bar altogether actually.
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But for some reason, that Palace Station Oyster Bar, and now I wanna know, Mr. Landers, text me privately, what time do you go- Yes... and sneak in there? Yeah. Good call.
25:59
Uh, Harold Irvin, "Can you ask Crack if they're vinegar peppers on your, uh, meal at Carbone?" They are. They, they are. They're, they're, they're a s- they are a, a vinegar pepper.
26:08
And, uh, there's some sauteed peppers in there. And matter of fact, you got some appetizer- Yes, I did... that I didn't even know they had with those pep- It's off, off, off menu... Off menu. Yes.
26:17
If you wanna be- He, he's got good connections there... if you wanna be, uh, clever at Carbone, there's some off-menu items. Yeah. This was a, uh, this was roasted peppers- Mm... by itself with mozz.
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With, with, uh, I think they make it right there. Yes. And they cut the cheese right in front of you. Oh, it was fantastic. Wait, that didn't sound right, cut the cheese? [laughs] No, it did not. Um, but yeah. Yeah.
26:35
They actually, you know, they're bringing it out right there, it was s- still warm. Yeah. So. R- uh, World Be Free, "How does Crack rate Cafe 2825 against Carbone?" Oh, that's great.
26:43
That's my, that's a Atlantic City connection there. Um, that is a fantas- what, what a restaurant that is, that, that has become.
26:51
The, the hardest restaurant to get into was always Chef Ola, which you're eating basically in the Esposito basement there, um, on Albion Place actually.
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Uh, but, uh, Cafe 2825 is also one that you need a reservation a long time in advance. I recommend that place. I recommend Doc's Oyster House. They, make sure you get their, uh, early bird special.
27:12
People line up for that. And, uh, great, great place. Been there over 100 years. But Cafe 2825, that guy used to come down from Brooklyn every day. I've never been. Finally moved down by Atlantic City, somewhere closer.
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And they just, uh, they have, they bring a cheese wheel to the table- [laughs]... and they make your pasta inside the cheese wheel. I mean, the things they do- Oh, yeah... are unbelievable there.
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Cafe 2825, uh, yeah, and make sure you, you, you, you, uh, you know, always watch, put your head on a swivel there. After all, that is on Atlantic Avenue, but that part of Atlantic's a little bit safer.
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I talk about, uh, Atlantic City in, in a bad way a lot, but hey, I'll talk about it in a good way too. Th- great restaurants, some great old school restaurants there.
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Always take a ride, uh, the we- you have a couple weekends left, Ocean City, New Jersey, a couple towns away, one of my favorite boardwalks in America. It's like literally you walked into the '70s.
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It's a dry town, one of the only dry towns in New Jersey. Can't get any liquor. The wa- the family fun town a couple towns away.
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Of course, you have the Long Ports, the Margates, Ventnor, beautiful beach towns over there. Uh, but you just have to keep your head on a swivel in Atlantic City. They have put no money back into it.
28:23
Shame on the state of New Jersey, s- shame on Atlantic City, shame on the casino executives. I blame everyone for not fixing up those streets and keeping the, the garbage out of the casinos.
28:34
You have to watch yourself walking anywhere.
28:36
Kyle D, Dom, uh, Dom Corleone28, "I was waiting for Crack to end his story about, uh, waiting for the, uh, the teller," not the teller, but the, the person at the ticket window at the casino, "with, and then I heard him call her a funky bitch."
28:50
Yes. [laughs] That's a playoff Will Hill story. Did you see this Will Hill, uh- No... tweet yesterday? Will Hill was at s- where was he?
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In, uh, in Connecticut somewhere at a, at a casino, and he just said that, at Fanatics in Connecticut. Thank you, Kelly. Right. Um, [laughs]
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the, he, he you know, said, "They're all, everybody's nice," he said, "but there's one lady behind the ticket counter who is just so unpleasant," that's my word, that Will finally, as he turned away after making a bet the other day, muttered under his breath
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a curse word. Right. Um, he actually had an adjective and a noun. Uh, and she, [laughs] apparently though her hearing is great, 'cause she heard it, and she goes, "Oh, I heard that." And he goes, "Good, I'm glad.
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It's true." Wow. Yeah. Well, I, I think he did send this in a group text. Yeah, he did. Yeah, the more I think about it. Yeah. And, uh, wow, Will, you have Fanatics over there? Wow. Wow.
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They have Randy McKay's, uh, the game he likes, plus 14 there. What game was that? W- were you talking about that game? You can give it out if you want. Randy told us not to, but if you, if he's already- Oh, he did?...
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he's already given it away on your podcast, he can do it. Yeah, it's on the podcast. You can watch it now. All right, so go ahead. Tell them. Uh, I gotta find it now. The Jackrabbits of South Dakota State. There it is.
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So they, at, at Fanatics, they have a 14. Uh, you, you lay $1.15, but there's 13 and a half minus 0.5 I see at Caesars. Um, I'm looking at some other sports, but I, I seen two 14s. Bet Rivers.
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So Rivers and Fanatics, but I'm told if you go into Rivers and Fanatics, they're checking pulse and blood pressure. [laughs] Vitals. So just be careful, um, at those two places. But yeah, so. Billy did it, Randy, not me.
30:25
He told them. Well, I mean, I, I know Randy didn't bet it yet. It's really not fair, but he, why would he give it on my podcast plus 13 and a half? Yeah, give it on your podcast.
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You can get it, he can actually bet it at Caesars right now. Go to the counter, plus 13 and a half minus 0.5. Mm-hmm. So, um, he, he could do that. But, uh, going back to,
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uh, that counter situation, which I said at the beginning of the show.
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All I'm saying is, and I'm not trying to be mean to anybody, but when people are buying in for contests, people are buying, doing certain things, and, you know, like, you have to- You have to be aware.
30:55
You gotta have awareness... yeah. Like, like let, let the other people behind us get to the counter or... But I blame staff sometimes too for talking back. Yeah.
31:02
The staff should sh- you know, they have to say, but they don't wanna be mean to somebody. Well, the w- You know?... the worst is the, the Sunday m- the f- Blame is a wr- a wr- a wrong word. I'm sorry...
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the first Sunday morning of week one. We sit here, the whole network, right? We sit here and we talk about NFL all s- summer long, week one.
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You know, we're just waiting for the NFL season to happen, waiting for the NFL season to happen. The Wednesday night game happens, the Thursday night game happens. Sunday morning, 10:00 AM Pacific, right?
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There's somebody at 9:57 AM- Yeah... making an eight-leg parlay, and everybody behind him [laughs] because they've had all summer to make the bet is like, "Oh, come on with the eight-leg parlay."
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But you're right, they get frustrated at the ticket writer for not sh- moving it along. Yeah, but it's really not their fault. And, and I said it yesterday with, with Fez on the, on that vice show.
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Along every single spor- uh, I, I should say really, it's actually a representation. It's every sports book in America, not just Vegas.
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There's always Sunday morning, 10 to 10:00 AM, when the games start at 10, there's people getting shut out in every single sports book. And why? They don't know who to bet.
32:04
They're betting into the most efficient line at 10:00 o'clock. I mean, you know, um, Fez interestingly said something on that podcast yesterday. That's not the most efficient line.
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He said that 9:00 o'clock is the most efficient line. And, uh, just trying to think why. He said an hour before the game is the most efficient line, not, not at 9:50. So in- interesting. I'm trying to...
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Maybe, do you have him on tomorrow? Uh, yes. Ask him why. I'm gonna guess because he's, he makes the case that then the pros come in and bet it back the other way kind of thing. Yeah, maybe. That- Yeah, maybe...
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that's kind of, kind of the way. But, uh- I don't know if he's right about that. Right. Yeah. Right, right, right. Oh, and, uh, Hook, someone just bet bet online. See what I mean? Look. There it is.
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And, and, and Lo Vig just moved. Oh, look at this. Randy, it's all over. We got good listeners. We got some listeners. Lucky Luciano, "Crack, I took my 5- 85-year-old dad to Italian American Club while in Vegas.
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He loved it. The atmosphere and food is great." I took an 80-year-old man who was around town for years, years ago, and, uh, when he came back in town, uh, he said, "You know, they, they closed Italian American Club."
33:02
He said that was a great spot to go in the '60s and '70s. I said, "Well, guess what? It was just reopened." Mm. So it was. It was after, like, I don't know, I think it was closed for 20 years.
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And- Oh, I didn't know that... yeah. Wow. Guy came in and, and bought 'em, uh, in, uh, maybe 15 years. It was closed for m- uh, at least a decade and a half, and they reopened it.
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And I took him in there, and he welled up with tears. This is, like, a tough guy too. Wow.
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He's like, "This is exactly how I remember it, a piano bar, the dark, everyone knows everybody, everyone's saying hello to everyone. And, uh, it was really a, a, a special time."
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So that, again, I know it's off the Strip, and it's down, uh, on the east side of town. Is it Sahara? Sahara. Yeah. And you have to get reservations. You leave your name and number on the- on their voicemail.
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Parking lot monitored by that individual. Pa- parking, parking lot- Yeah... monitored by, by Paulie on S- on, um- Paulie? No... w- what, what's that? Rocky. Right, Rocky. He has got the hat. Uh-huh. "How you doing?
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All right, go ahead, guys. Get in there." And he's watching the parking lot, watching everything. I mean, Randy's gonna kill us. Oh. Yeah. He, well, yeah, I'm, I haven't bet it- Look at this... so that's why I'm mad.
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Look at this. Yeah. DraftKings bet online. For the audience. Yeah. Jesus. Gotta give the audience one ahead of you. Oh. Uh, Tom Collins- I probably shouldn't have done that...
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"Crack, when I travel to Vegas, I go to Ferraro's off the Strip. Any thoughts? Best hour on VSiN," he says. Okay. Appreciate it, Tom. Uh, I used to go to Ferraro's. I did go when it was on, was it on Trop or Flamingo?
34:28
No, by the old Hard Rock. No, back, back in the day. Oh, back in the day. Back in the day it was somewhere else. And, uh, oh, boy. Oh. There goes the 14. What, what have we done? The 14 at Fanatics is gone.
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Randy is gonna be- Someone bet $30-... very mad at us... and Fanatics moved it instantly. Oh, boy. Caesars is down to 13 and a half minus 08. Okay. Good, good thing we're not going to dinner with him tonight. Oh, boy.
34:46
Oh, boy. Sorry, Randy. Oh, boy. You did give it out on the podcast, which was very nice of you. BetRivers is still 14, but they may lock you up if you bet it. All right, so- More with Crack- Are we going to commercial?
34:55
... after the break. Yes, sir. Oh, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. [upbeat music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
35:12
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has texted Bill Krackomberger, "How'd that go?" He said, "Crack, what are you doing?" No, I'm joking. No, what'd he say? No. He said, "Uh, I actually got down some, don't worry, but- Oh, okay...
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don't forget to sprinkle a little peanut on the money line." Oh, there you go. So- Sprinkle... uh, if you, if, if you're over at, um, where, where was it? There was... The highest money line is at BetRivers.
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They have plus 525 on the money line. Uh, but just again, yeah, you could maybe just bet it at the kiosk and run out immediately from the casino, and, uh, make sure you have your sunglasses and fake mustache on. Okay.
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Mm. Fanatics plus 460. Um, that is, is the second highest I see, but plus 430 over-over- For, for those who missed it, we're talking about South Dakota State Jackrabbits here. Now, and you wanna...
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You know, when it comes to that- S-S-... I, I, I don't have the number from Randy, but I would say if you... Let's say you bet $100 on the side. I would say put 10 bucks on the money line.
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So put $10 on the money line- Okay... $100 on the side. Uh, it's, it's like what I say about no matter what I say, especially on the Fox show- People are gonna do- Everyone bets parlays. Yeah.
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They're gonna put it in parlays, so if, if... You know, I almost waved the white towel there. I said, "Listen, if you're gonna bet $100 on a game and you wanna put a $5 five-team parlay in with it, e- enjoy yourself.
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It's fine." But I don't do it. I don't recommend doing it, but I know you're gonna do it anyway. People love parlays.
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But, uh, so yeah, sprinkle a little bit on the money line if you like the, if you like the game, maybe 10%, 5%, especially at, if you can get down plus 525, wow, that's a great money line on a 13-and-a-half point underdog bet.
37:20
It's, it's a little different than doing it on the podcast, 'cause as soon as you say it on this show, there goes the Christmas tree on it. I- Yeah... was pretty surprised by this, but I should've known better.
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Oh, no, yes. I, I should've known better, uh, that Caesar, Caesar's would move right away and the, and the four teens would start disappearing, uh, again.
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Ryan Hyatt, "The great thing about listening to Gil and Bill on ANG each week is that you get the feeling these are pretty much like the conversations they'd have at supper together. Not a put-on for the audience.
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Authentic. Thanks for letting us hang out with y'all." Oh, my gosh. Um, uh, Thursdays, he says. Ryan, thank you so much. And yes, we will pick up this conversation- My man... at dinner. It will be exactly like this.
37:55
Yeah, yeah, this, this is, uh, an, an interesting situation here too, 'cause I got upset one, last year when I gave out some games and people in the comments were going- Yeah... I said, "That's it.
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I'm done giving games out." That's right. And I didn't give any games out- For a while... and then two weeks ago I gave a game out. It won. Crickets. Crickets. Of course. Of course.
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I, I, again, now h- here's what'll happen this week. Um, Northwestern will blow away South Dakota State. [laughs] And next week- [laughs]... no one will say nothing to Randy. No, it'll be you. They'll come after me.
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[laughs] Yeah. Uh- I should say, like, "Crack gave it out. I didn't." Yeah, I didn't give... Yeah, no. Yeah. But, but i- i- it's, it's part of the business though. You have to take- Oh, dude... you know, certain things.
38:31
Yeah. Um, but I- There are always people- Yeah... who are just waiting, right? Their whole life's purpose is to sit around and wait for you to mess up. And you know what? Eventually they'll get their chance. Yeah.
38:40
It happens. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? One thing great, I could just tell people, uh, that, and thank God I have good connections with all you guys. Yeah.
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And I tell them to block that guy so he can't see none of the shows no more. This way you don't have to be, take this, I take the burden off you. You don't have to be troubled anymore.
38:58
You could, uh, just, just block 'em. Block, block and move. Don't argue with no one, you know? They'd all wanna go to dinner with you, Billy. That's the thing.
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I have a couple of them that right now, um, they're, they're right now they're on the cusp. Oh, you have a list? They're on the cusp of being- You have a list, do you? I have two- Really?...
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that are in the comments right now. You know, one guy says, "You don't give... What's so... This podcast you have, you don't talk about anything. Do you know nothing about the teams?
39:19
You don't, uh, you don't wanna give any plays out." Uh, listen, my podcast is a, a lifestyle, Vegas, Atlantic City, gambling in general, little nuggets, little tidbits.
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I get, a perfect example, I gave out something yesterday. Now, we will give out plays, but I, there's, there's a casino in town that is offering $100 free right now to every, anyone that...
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Uh, $100 rebate, like Treasure Island was doing, and I got like two million views on Twitter for that.
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But that, it, it probably ruined the, the, the actual promotion because they were supposed to go the next four weeks, they ended it after three days.
39:51
So they just gave away millions of dollars and said, "We gotta stop giving this $200 away." Well, on my podcast, and I'll say it here again, so there's a place in downtown Henderson called Club Fortune, $100 free roll.
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Get a card, you play until you lose 100 bucks, and you get the money back same day.
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Now, same day you get the, you have to roll it over once, but, you know, the, there's some strategy there of swinging for the fences to play higher denomination than you normally play.
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So play something, uh, as, if you play quarters or nickels, uh, five cents, you, you wanna play dollars or a five dollar. Take a shot with that. Try to win something right away, you know? And if you win, quit. That's it.
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If you win 200 bucks, you're done. That's it. Don't give it back 'cause you're n- now you have to, you only get the $100 back if you lose the 100.
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So, uh, there is some strategy involved there, but it's a free $100 for anyone. Uh, I, I really don't go to downtown Henderson too often.
40:49
I'm told there's a lot of little casinos there, but the time I went, I mean, I, I'm told there's a lot of little, you know, incentives maybe there. The time I went it was so smoky I just couldn't take it.
40:58
That's the- Now, it's only one time. Yeah. It's like going into, like, the Gold Coast. You're gonna come out, your, your, your clothes are gonna smell like smoke, but it's a gambling joint.
41:07
Let me tell you something, the Gold Coast and New Orleans, they're gambling joints. Look at the tables, how packed they are. Look at the baccarat tables. Look at the, the, the, you know, every table.
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They're, that's a ga- And they give you low limits. You could play, I think you could play $5 three-to-two blackjack, but you have to put up with the smoke. Yeah. That's it. These are, these are not the ones here.
41:26
Those are the ones that, you're talking about in Henderson now, or are you talking about the ones, those are, Orleans is here. The Gold Coast and Orleans was, yeah, here. Was here. Those are smoky.
41:32
Henderson, downtown, uh, yeah, they, they're smoky. Downtown, a lot of local casinos. But downtown Henderson, is it Water Street? Have you been down there? Is this...
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Okay, what's the area of Henderson where, like, the passport office is? It's like the, you feel like you're in the Old West all of a sudden. That, that is probably it. Yeah. People are gonna know more than us here.
41:49
Uh- It's like you can almost picture the tumbleweed going across the street. Yeah, yeah. I was like, "Where have I been transported into?"
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And, and be careful go, speeding there 'cause the Henderson Police do not fool around. Yeah. They're giving you tickets. So matter of fact, technically the M Casino is located in Henderson. Yes, it is.
42:04
So, um, so a- anywhere over there, they, they are, they're a, just a tougher cop than the metro cops here- Oh, that's interesting... in Vegas. Yeah, they're not, they're not letting you go.
42:13
That's like, uh, DC whenever I used to go back, visit my, uh, parents and now my, my old friends there. Once you cross the Maryland border into DC, the vigilance of the traffic- Right...
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police, if, and I'm talking about, like, it's a 35 mile per hour speed limit. If you so much as dare to go 41- Right... and by the way, you're fighting your car back at f- like, just to go f- you know, to go slower.
42:38
They will, they will s- you know, there's, there's cameras. They picture... Uh, so my mom would be like, "Gilley, did you go f- did you speed?" I'm like, "Speed?" [laughs] "I went 41." Did your mom drive?
42:49
Yo, she drove Oh, she did... not well, but she drove But she drove. Good. Good for her. Uh, it was like- A lot of the old timers- It was like a war out there with her-... old timers didn't drive...
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on the, on the street My grandmother didn't drive, and my grandmother never drove. Yeah. My grandfather only drove, so I just figured maybe it was the same thing. Uh, before we get off air,
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uh, if there's, there's some great packages downtown here. If you just Google Las Vegas all-inclusive Vegas f- uh, uh, vacation packages, wow. Like, even the, I think the one at Circa's still going.
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You get two nights for 400 bucks all in, but you get $200 back in food. So it's $100 a night you stay at Circa. Wow. I mean, there's, The Plaza has one. Um, the Golden Nugget has one.
43:24
There's some really good packages around town. Um, I guess we have to get into this Grand Decimo before we go off air. You ready?
43:31
I talked about being in the Grand Decimo and, uh, you know, my, my buddies down in, uh, South Carolina, and I told you we were gonna have an entry last year. It broke down, the talks broke down- Talks... 23rd hour.
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We only had one entry instead of two. Um, but yeah, so g- Explain it... I wanna know what people think about putting an entry in my name and- It's his money... it's his money. Putting entry in my name.
43:56
Of course, all the tax implications and everything will be taken out. You'll be putting in the we- the picks every week. I'll be putting the picks in every week, and I'm the responsible for this, for this entry.
44:04
I'm responsible for the money. What do I deserve as a free roll? Okay, so now my memory serves, if memory serves, last year you suggested 25%. You have to start a little high. And I told you, "Easy, buddy."
44:16
Yeah, you said 20. I said 20. Yeah, 20. So, uh- Even that's, eh- Even that's a little bit maybe? Yeah. You're, you're getting there now. I'm getting there now.
44:25
So anyway, uh- What, what's the number you've come up with now? 17.5. [laughs] 17.5. Okay. And you know, when you're at the auction house, sold. Sold. Yeah. I think that's a sold. 17.5.
44:36
Now listen- That's a lot of money... I was gonna put up my, a third. Like, I put up- Yeah... a third before. Yeah. But why should I put up a third and get a third of the contest if I can get 17 and a half?
44:44
He's not gonna hear this, so it don't matter. So why should I put that up when I can get 17 and a half free? Don't put up anything, right?
44:50
You- We, we should've done this earlier 'cause people could have written in what they think. Oh, yeah. They'll, they'll, they're- Yeah... they'll, they'll, I'm sure they'll comment or something. Yeah.
44:56
But, uh, so that's just interesting thing. I, we are way ahead of pace for everything here. It's a lot of responsibility, by the way. It's a lot of responsibility. Yeah. It's a lot of responsibility. [laughs] Yes.
45:05
Uh, you can't mess that up. Can't mess it up. Yeah. [laughs] No. Uh, we're ahead of pace for all these contests here. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Well, I, I shouldn't say all.
45:12
I think- Survivor may be a little bit of a, uh, uh, may, may be good, but the, the Millions may be a little bit of an overlay. Are we gonna get to, like, 27 in Survivor or something like that?
45:20
I was saying I, I, the goal was, like, 23. I think we're g- we got that. We're gonna get that. Oh, we're getting 25 for sure. 25. 25- $25 million... I think we, I think we may soar over that.
45:29
We, by the way, Derek, 'cause Steve and I are- Yes... in Circa Survivor, which is just insane, dude. Insane. This has gotten so pop- it's amazing how popular this is. It's amazing.
45:38
And of course, the, the Grand Decimo's already over, but they guaranteed- Yeah... um, millions, maybe the value. What was the first Survivor? 1.3 million or something like that? Yeah, something like that.
45:46
Something like that. Thank you, Billy. Thank you, guys. Prop Points is next. Enjoy it from VSiN, the sports betting network.
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