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Sep 9, 2026
A Numbers Game | September 9, 2026 | Hour 1
A Numbers Game | September 9, 2026 | Hour 1
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[upbeat music] The numbers tell the story, they always do. So, all those idiots who believe in analytics- This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander on VSiN. Good Wednesday morning to you.
1:03
This is a numbers game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, SiriusXM channel 189. Gil Alexander, Kelly Midland. Heyo.
1:13
On a night where I got about, uh, four hours of sleep. [laughs] I b- you got that much? I, watching- I'm surprised you got that much... watching our final future go down on just an epic day at the US Open. Crazy.
1:26
It is our final show before actual real live National Football League football. [clapping] There you go. Let's go. We made it, folks. We all made it together. It's the last one before we- Th-... can look back at games.
1:37
And thanks to soccer, thanks to soccer for helping us make- Big-... make it this far... massive assist to the World Cup. Right? Wow. Which seems like it was forever ago. It really does.
1:46
But we were all super into it when it was happening. We were, and think about that though. It feels like it was forever ago, and it would- Yeah... this whole summer would've felt so much longer without it. Yep.
1:55
Shout out World Cup. You might have something, uh, this, you, you might have something- Yeah, baby... with this soccer thing you guys talked about all day. [laughs] That's right.
2:01
If y- it, it feels like it's grown on the world. [laughs] Will Hill will join us, all his bets, NFL, college football, baseball, all that later this hour. Paul Spohrer on Major League Baseball. I like an ornery Spohrer.
2:12
He's been great this year. No, God, '26, 2026 Spohrer has been the best. Oh, goes off on people. It's fantastic.
2:18
Nick Whelan will join us a little later on, and then in studio, oh, I'm sure this will go well, Todd Wischnff. That aid. In studio. Oh, [laughs] boy.
2:27
By the way, uh, the Megapod reviews are in, and, uh, it's not favorable to Todd. [laughs] In terms of the interruptions. We'll see if he can keep it to a minimum here. [laughs] Glad you said that.
2:37
You and I have not had that conversation off-air, but I was like, "Man, this is a lot of negative Todd tweets." I was, I was ready to strangle him within five minutes. Mm. But I love him. I love him. Same, same deal.
2:47
Fight like brothers. Matt Brown will join us as well a little later on. It's, you know it's NFL season when Matt Brown's coming on the show. The Gran- Mr. Grandissimo himself. Gotta talk to him about that first- Yeah...
2:58
and foremost. Mm-hmm. Um- He knows. Yeah. Like w- when did he finally make the decision to do that? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah? I don't know. I, I think it was sort of last minute.
3:07
Well, he's couching it as a, "I own a legacy club," next thing you know, him signing off for Grandissimo. I'm probably sh- I'm gonna guess that's not how that actually works.
3:14
He's probably been concocting this for a while. Well, I to- I told you he, i- he- Yeah. I knew he had been talking about it for months, but- Right. Good on him...
3:22
I didn't, I didn't get the feeling it was close close as of like a couple weeks ago. I would like Mateo Moreno, Matt Brown to win Grandissimo. That's who I'm rooting for. Me too. Okay.
3:32
Uh, tennis yesterday, let us start there before we get to football. And, and this has nothing to do with sports betting, but this LSU thing is fascinating to me. [laughs] I just love this story. It's crazy, I know.
3:42
Uh, tennis yesterday was epic. For as bad as like the matches were on Sunday, was it? Or they were Saturday. I can't remember what it was, the day where they were just boring matches.
3:51
Yesterday, the first half of the quarterfinals start to finish was just epic. We, we hit our over in the Koscielna-Sabalenko match. Sabalenka ends up winning that in a third set tiebreaker.
4:03
Then, uh, then it was the Frances Tiafoe, big foe against Alex Michelsen. Michelsen, and by the way, I was thinking about playing Michelsen, right? This would've been another epic collapse. Oh, man.
4:15
Michelsen was up two sets. He was serving for the match in the third up 5-4. Foe breaks him, wins the match in five. And big foe gets to his- That was crazy...
4:25
Frances Tiafoe gets to his third US Open semifinal in five years. He is a home road split kind of tennis player.
4:30
I am, uh, I text, I was texting with Za- the, the Hardwood Handicappers chat was, was firing away and active during that tennis match yesterday. It's incredible. 'Cause JVT and I were locked in.
4:40
It was just an, an amazing match. I'll ask you the same question I asked Zach.
4:45
Michelsen, someone like, like, okay, is this a, is this, was this a nice run and a nice story, or is this actually an American tennis player, uh, to watch going forward? He's a really good hardcore player. Okay.
4:55
He's always, he always has been in his, in his brief career. He'll be, he'll, he'll be on the scene for a long time. Okay. I don't know if he ever wins a slam, but he's, he's a great hardcore player.
5:04
That was fun, and then like it collapsed and then Tiafoe's shoulder just weeping at the end of that. That was tough. Like that w- I, it was, it was- Tough to watch... it, that's a moment in sports though, right? Oh.
5:13
That's sports right there. Well, it's tennis. What a fight. There's, there's no, I mean, there's no sport like tennis where th- that, o- other than tennis where you really see that kind of thing.
5:21
Two guys going at it for that long and then just, "Oh yeah, we're friends," and that happens. And then Jessie Pegula, the Battle of the Billionairesses, which is the one that- Yeah...
5:30
that Kelly was the most interested in. The bigger billionaire, meaning more bank account, she beats. Pegula beats Navarro, but she could not shake Emma Navarro.
5:39
Uh, DjokovicFan_Dan, he says, "The US Open quarterfinal match between Pegula and Navarro officially the richest match in tennis history. The Pegula family net worth $11.8 billion."
5:49
Remember, her dad owns the Bills and the Sabres. The Navarro family net worth three, a paltry 3.2 billion. Combined, they're worth 15 billion.
5:59
For perspective, Djokovic, Federer, and Nadal combined are worth 1.5 billion So yeah, but, but Pegula gets it done. It was, it was a steely match.
6:06
She gets it done in three, and then last night it began at 11:05 PM Eastern. Yeah, I was gonna say, man. There was no way I was making it through there.
6:17
I was getting ready to go to bed when that thing was getting started. Uh, it was just, you know, you knew it as it was starting, right? You knew, you're like, "This is gonna... Like, what if this goes five sets?" Yeah.
6:27
This is gonna go well past the latest match in the history of the US Open. And sure enough, it did. Started at 11:05 PM Eastern, it ended at 3:33 AM- Now, now what was the-... Eastern...
6:39
what was the scheduled time, Gil, for it to begin? The scheduled time is when the previous match ends. No, I know, but don't they th- don't they usually throw a time on there- They-... knowing it's gonna be pushed?
6:48
They do, but it's meaningless. Okay. And, uh, by the way, and, and of course for those who missed it, Ben Shelton beats Carlos Alcaraz in a fifth set tiebreaker.
6:57
So in the three quarters yesterday that happened, three of them ended in final set tiebreakers. And Ben Shelton takes down a Carlos Alcaraz in what was just a phenomenal match.
7:09
Uh, but 3:33 AM is when it ended, uh, uh, Eastern, 12:33 here Pacific, and now we are down to six 'cause the back half of the quarters is today, and everything is tostada in terms of the futures.
7:23
Sascha Zverev is your short shot now to win it at plus 110, Ben Shelton plus 140, and that's correct. Hmm. Right?
7:28
The other guys are sort of, including Big Foe and, and Khachanov, they're, they're, they're not in that same level as, uh, Sascha Zverev and Ben Shelton, but who knows anything anymore- Dude... in this tournament.
7:38
I mean, this is like the- Yeah... the bottom three on this graphic look like a, look like the first round of a Grand Slam, not the, uh, eh, quarterfinal, semifinals. Is that fair, Gil Alexander?
7:49
It's a good, it's a good call.
7:50
The, I, I'm in a b- I don't, I know you're not in the same boat, but the, uh, I, I think there's a lot of people out there that have been Frances Tiafoe fans for a lo- a long time and have, uh, burnt some outright tickets on him.
8:00
Of course I don't have one for this US Open, when it feels like by far his most likely chance to, uh, capture a Grand Slam. Eh, it's still not gonna happen, I don't think. You don't think so? I don't think so.
8:10
Man, you tennis guys- I'd love-... all right... I'd love to see it. Just 'cause it's Zverev? Just 'cause it's Zverev and Shelton, but I'd love to see it. I'd absolutely love to see it.
8:17
Oh, God, I hope he beats the crap out of Shelton, though. God. Oh, God, would I love that. I, they're both Americans, and I d- I, I could not be on, on further sides apart of how much I like and hate one.
8:27
I think you reflect most people's- Okay, good... fan hood on that. Let's go Frances. Let's go Tiafoe. Uh, and then, uh, today, so we did hit the one over yesterday. It was only play yesterday. We have two today.
8:37
They're both on the spread. Coco minus three games versus Mirra Andreeva. Coco has dominated this head-to-head five to nothing, and Mirra Andreeva has a little issue when the crowd goes against her. Hmm.
8:51
So this is sort of a confluence of- I like this one, yeah... fade Mirra with Coco minus three games. And then, uh, Karen Khachanov minus two and a half games versus Alexander Bloks.
9:01
Karen Khachanov is one of these guys that through the years, even in the best of times, he's like my Irvin Santana. I never get him right. But Bloks said he almost, you know, and we had Bloks in the last match.
9:11
We won on him. Yeah. He said he almost quit in the middle of it 'cause of a rib injury. Oh, that's interesting. So I'll take the- Yeah...
9:17
I'll take Khachanov, the veteran, minus two and a half, trying to get to a open fi- open semi over a compromised Alexander Bloks. So those are the two, Coco minus three games, Khachanov minus two and a half games.
9:29
A perfect example of what I'm talking about.
9:30
It's like the, uh, the US Open semifinals bet, the first one that Gil's betting, and then we go out to, uh, Bad Homburg in the middle of, uh, June for the, uh, second round matchup between Blokx and Khachanov.
9:42
They all count the same. They all count the same. [laughs] They count way more for those guys. I went to look at this, uh, Super Bowl matchup to bet the Ravens and the, uh, Ravens and Seahawks.
9:51
Yeah, you were talking about that yesterday. Yeah. W- w- what number would you require to play that? Ravens, Seahawks? Yeah. I love this game. Love this game. Okay.
9:59
Ravens, Seahawks, I don't even know what shortest matchup odds were.
10:01
I was disa- I was disa- well, let me speak to the fact that- I'm gonna s- I'm gonna say that the, I'm gonna guess the odds were in the teens, and you were hoping for, like, 30. It was 35 to one. Ooh, okay.
10:12
I was still disappointed. Yeah. I was like, okay, and I mean, I get it, right? They're two, they're two f- favorites. Mm-hmm. But I was like, really? We're, before the season, am I gonna bet a matchup at 35 to one?
10:23
Yeah, I don't know. That doesn't, it doesn't sound fun. It's, it's every time I get excited about one- Yeah... of those bets, I leave with that exact same feeling. Uh. It's, "Oh, okay, I guess I'm not betting this."
10:30
What was the, what was the shortest matchup? Rams who? Well, you know how this goes, 'cause you gotta, it's not, it's not searchable that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh- Um-... right, yeah, sorry. Never mind.
10:38
[scoffs] No, that's all right. I'll, I'll, hey, look, we'll do it, we'll do it live. I mean r- uh, w- who's- In the words-... who's shortest AFC team? I have no i- Bills, Rams-Bills. It's gotta be Rams-Bills, right?
10:47
The, um, um, I'm at the Rams currently. Like 12, 12, 15 to one? Oh, oh, guess what? They didn't put the Rams in the proper alphabetical order, so I still can't find them. Um- Yeah, we shouldn't even tread on this. Yeah.
10:59
It's probably Bills-Rams, right? Um, and, uh, Bills-Rams would be 20 to one. Okay. So I w- I was going too short on where they start. Yeah, Bills-Seahawks 35 to one.
11:11
So Bills-Seahawks, Ravens-Seahawks, same thing, 35 to one. Yeah, I'm with you. I d- It's just not-... just no, no interest right now... not super exciting.
11:18
Oh, r- uh, just to give equal, equal time here, odds to win the US Women's Open, Aryna Sabalenka after her, uh, third set tiebreaker win yesterday over Noskova, plus 140. She is the short shot.
11:28
Coco, Rybakina, Pegula, Andreeva, Zheng Qinwen. As I mentioned yesterday, besides Emma Navarro in the final eight, I could see any of them winning on the women's side- Hmm... at this point.
11:38
Yeah, I was gonna ask you that. Yep. A- and this is wide open still, right? Six left. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, man, I've got Pegula vibes, though. I don't know why. That's current price on Pegula?
11:47
She won that match, and she was, like, six to one before that match yesterday. Interesting. I would love to see her win it. You talk about Big Foe on the men's side, I would love to see her win on the ladies' side.
11:54
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love to see it. Hey, man, I know she's got billions, but you know what? There's a lot, there, there's billionaires and hundred millionaires out there. Guess what?
12:01
They don't end up being the top five- Oh, I, God... at anything in their lives. I hope everybody knows I like to make my jokes. It takes nothing away from these, these girls.
12:09
Getting to this level of competitive tennis, you have to work your ass off. It is not- And sure, she had, okay, she had the country club- Yeah, yeah, sure... and she had all the lessons. Yeah, no, it's all true.
12:18
They still don't get to top five in the world. Right, exactly, yeah You know, so, uh, you know how easy it is for those people to quit too- Of course... when it gets tough?
12:26
Yeah, mom, dad, "Yeah, I figure I'll stop this." Mm-hmm. "Seems like a lot of work for, you know, what's waiting for me." Okay, we'll come back. Let's talk Seahawks and the Patriots- Come on, baby. Come on... tonight.
12:38
Rams/9ers tomorrow. And I do wanna bring up this LSU thing, 'cause this is crazy. Next on The Numbers Game.
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13:35
Mortal Kapper, "What an incredible day and night on Ash at the US Open, one of the best overall days in recent history." Mm-hmm. "Will we finally get an American champion on the men's side?"
13:43
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. It has not, uh, we have not had a men's champion, a men's Grand Slam champion, any Slam, since Andy Roddick won the US Open in 2003. Got a definite shot here- Okay... with Shelton.
13:56
Random, uh, specials that were listed, and this was, like, two to one as of, like, two days ago. Any American player to win the tournament on the men's side, of course, only the yes price is listed, but it is minus 110.
14:08
Is it a coin flip right now? Coin flip right now. Yeah. Any interest in a no price on Sascha Zverev? I'm not interested in anything anymore. Yeah, y- yeah. I have Drew's attitude.
14:20
Drew's attitude is the tournament's over for me, that's it. Football starts. Yeah. Not interested in anything, you know, besides individual matches, that is.
14:29
JM McDonald9, "Wondering your thoughts on Junior Caminero at 14 to 1 for AL MVP. He's closed the batting average gap with Yordan to 29 points, one ahead in homers, and within two RBI.
14:38
If he can stay ahead in homers, pass him in RBIs, is there extra consideration for him if the Rays get the number one seed in the AL?" So just to, uh, let people know what's going on here.
14:47
So Yordan Alvarez's quest for the Triple Crown, which would only be the second Triple Crown winner since 1967, has fallen on hard times here with less than three weeks left.
15:00
'Cause as, uh, JM McDonald just pointed out, Caminero now tops him in homers by one, and Pete Alonso tops him in RBI by two. Sure. Alva- Alvarez still clinging to the batting average lead.
15:14
Who will- So- Who will ever forget the 2026 season from Pete Alonso? But, but to... [laughs] That's right.
15:19
But to answer- [laughs] But to answer your question, JM McDonald, no, I don't, it, it, it doesn't affect MVP to me. Yordan is still winning MVP. I, I think it's a, it's a, I think it's a fair question- Yeah, but no...
15:30
and something to monitor, right? But yeah, I think we're probably just running out of time here. NoAmyDoug, "Thanks for the Alcaraz bets. The sweat was real.
15:37
The outcome was bad, but it was great fun to have the opportunity." Well, again, third set tiebreaker could've gone either way last night. Um, John Balducci, "Shooting an ad today. Camera operator's T-shirt."
15:50
Did you see it? Oh, yes, I did. It's amazing. What is that, that- I don't really understand it, but it's amazing... Edgar Allan Iverson. Yeah, he's doing the, he's doing our step over, man.
15:58
He's doing the step- He's doing the walkover... the walkover. But what's the Edgar Allan Poe reference? I don't know. Yeah, I don't get the reference, but I love it anyways.
16:04
Uh, this is from, let's see, this is from Paul, uh, Paul Zhang. "Oh, Derek told the Matt Brown story on Follow the Money last night."
16:10
Well, we'll get it from Matt Brown's, uh, from the horse's mouth today here on the show, 'cause I did not hear that. New York Football Giants 42, "Nice win for Pegula.
16:17
If she wins the US Open, do you think she can use that money to finally buy her parents a house? I'll hang up and listen."
16:22
3Jacques3131, "Gil, will Kelly b- being pulling, will Kelly be pulling another power outage when Todd is on, just in case you actually strangle him?
16:29
Can you set up a live blood pressure monitor during his appearance and..." [laughs] Okay.
16:35
Uh, JB, "Shelton 40 to 1, Tiafoe 120 to 1, Botic van de Zandschulp 100 to 1 to win the quarter, so do not bet on them to win," he says. You have all those? Uh, Patrick Kelly, "Good morning, gentlemen.
16:47
Block X Compromised sounds like a not so good movie to me." [laughs] Sounds like a great movie title. I like it. Block X- I would see that... Block X Compromised. Great action movie title.
16:56
Jason Statham's definitely in it. NoAmyDoug, "Ben Shelton now one for 18 against top three players." Great, great tiebreaker player though, that's for sure.
17:06
Uh, and then Paul Nelson, "I hope you're right about the Seahawks. What about the healthy O line versus the Pats?
17:11
The loss of our OC, QB coach, and offensive line coach, losses on defense, and current injuries in the secondary, and Emonri isn't 100%." I- Seahawks favored by three tonight. Only three.
17:23
This moved from three and a half, where it was perched for a very long time, and is now minus three, minus 120. Again, were you surprised by the move? I was. Yeah, I was. I was.
17:34
I think great points, uh, I mean, look, great points from that last tweet. I'm just gonna sit here and regurgitate a lot of them, I guess, but it is... I understand
17:44
why we're not looking at, like, the, an exact same line or a comparable line to the Super Bowl.
17:50
I think you could easily make some arguments, as that last tweeter did, about, okay, some of the health issues, some of the guys that are gone in the Seattle secondary, um, and just overall, right?
17:59
Kenneth Walker gone, uh, Boye Mafe gone, o- offensive coordinator change. New England, hel- the offensive line was banged up in the Super Bowl. You bring in an A.J. Brown now. You're a little bit healthier there.
18:13
I get all that, Gil. I get all that. But when we were sitting four and a half on a neutral, and now you're telling me I can lay just three with Seattle at home. With a historically very good home field advantage.
18:25
I, I ended up betting. I joined you yester- uh, last night. Uh, w- well, this was three. I was staring at a three 114. First game of the season, I'm betting a little bit on Seattle tonight
18:35
Um, and then there's the, there's the notion of w- what was bringing this up? I haven't heard anybody bring it up with the Patriots yet this year. Maybe it's just us who didn't bring it up.
18:43
Uh, on average, Super Bowl losing teams post a record- [laughs] I have this. Do you want it?... of roughly 10 and seven in a 17-game season the following year. Oh, okay. I thought you were going week one here. Yeah.
18:55
Week, week one. S- Week one. Here it is. Super Bowl losers in week one. Six and 20 against the spread since 2000. That's from BetLab Sports. I know. The, these are... Look, uh, Gil and I are not the biggest trend people.
19:07
Nope. I, I would tell you there's been a lot of time between [laughs] the Super Bowl and this game, and a lot of changes on both these teams. Yep. I don't, I'm not really reading much into that, but hey, it's week one.
19:17
I know some people like some trends. I wonder, I mean, here's the thing with trends, right? The trends that I am, that I am accepting of, regardless of sport, is if you can sort of intuitively make sense of it.
19:30
Right, explain it. Right? Yeah. Can you, is there any way to make sense of this? In other words, we, we talked about it with the Blue Jays last year. Mm.
19:38
Blue Jays got not only to the World Series, they got to game seven, and they lost game seven in the most dramatic fashion you could imagine- Yeah...
19:47
with Rojas and then Pages making those unbelievable defensive plays for the Dodgers in game seven. I'll ne- I'll, I will never soon, I will never forget those plays.
19:54
And then, ooh, I think it was Will Hill who first said, he goes, "Now, just imagine the mountain that the Blue Jays have to climb after losing game seven. You have to go back to spring training.
20:05
You have to live through that. You gotta play 162 games." Now, I do think the Blue Jays are gonna sneak in- Mm... to the postseason. At least I'm hoping they do, 'cause I obviously have them in September.
20:15
Nice Blue Jays win yesterday. Um, but is there, is there an equivalent? Is that, is that a,
20:21
is that, does that make sense to you that a team that gets to the Super Bowl and does so on one of, not, not the easiest schedule in the NFL last year, but an, a historically easy schedule- Yeah...
20:31
now has to start it all over again with a much more difficult schedule, and starting maybe arguably in the worst venue for opposing teams in the league?
20:41
I mean, look, I think the, I think the, the Will Hill example with the Blue Jays is maybe the one of the best I've heard, 'cause I think baseball, okay, you've got, what? A shorter off-season, right?
20:52
You talk about World Series spring training, pitchers and catchers report real quick. I guess baseball, I'd be a believer of where there's actually a hangover effect.
21:00
But even with that, even with that, you're talking about months in between, new players, new teams. I mean, isn't, hope springs eternal, right? Every season, everybody's re- hits that reset button.
21:12
So I, I, I don't, I don't know. I'm with, I'm with you, but I guarantee you there's people listening who are nodding their head are like, "Oh, absolutely. I get it. I get why that trend is what it is."
21:20
I mean, for, for this game tonight,
21:23
it, I think, I think you could maybe say it matters a little bit more, but I, I b- I'm more of a believer in just the revenge part of it from the Super Bowl, more so than, more so than just the loser.
21:33
You, you believe it, you believe in that, the, this revenge notion.
21:36
I be- I believe that the p- after the, how those seasons ended, the Patriots feel like this is a very, very big game for them tonight, and the Seahawks saying, "We just won a Super Bowl. This is week one.
21:45
We have a g- we have a full season ahead of us that we care a lot more about." Hmm. I think when I was a kid, after the Dolphins played, no, maybe that was a different year. Different year.
21:54
Well, they gotta, Gil, we talk about all these things. Any of these things do I like, am I going to the window based off of something- No... just like- No... no, not at all. None of this.
22:01
But, but week one, you are going to the window based on all kinds of- Yes... things that none are based in any actual football you've watched. Mm-hmm. No, that's very true.
22:11
So it's just different levels of what you believe is bettable information. And right now, week one, the challenge is always, uh, the, it's, s- someone said it this week. Week one, the challenge is, you know what?
22:23
Get the three and two in your millions. Move on. I'm on the Seahawks- Mm-hmm... tonight, though, just because rather than anything about revenge, I'm certainly not basing it on that trend.
22:33
I just believe what I saw in that Super Bowl was a Seahawks team that almost shut out the New England Patriots.
22:40
And while these teams are different, and while it is a different cast of characters, it ain't that different. Where, uh, where, where do you l- no, I'm with you. Where, where do you land on the total?
22:48
'Cause you and I have not pl- talked a lot about this. No, no- I've heard a lot of over love this week... no thought on the total. No opinion.
22:54
Yeah, I've heard a lot of over love, and the kind of, we broke down some of the changes.
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I understand why you could expect some more scoring in this game tonight than what we saw in the Super Bowl, but man, it is hard to forget how hard points were to come by in the Super Bowl for, what?
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Three quarters for both of those teams? Hey, it w- I, complete pass on that one for me. More likely to, uh, have a terrible game tonight. I'll use the word terrible. Well, let's, let's substitute terrible.
23:21
Ooh, interesting. Most, most likely to have a subpar game tonight. Sam Darnold, Super Bowl hangover. Drake May, coming off a year where perhaps he should've won MVP. Such a great question.
23:31
I'm gonna have an unfair q- answer. Sam Darnold always. Sam Darnold. Pat- It's Sam Darnold, and it was the easiest answer right away I was about to say pat answer, but that would be a- Hmm... reverse pun.
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That's Kelly Bidlin right there. Hey-oh. Television's Kelly Bidlin, everybody. Soak him in. Soak him in. Ladies, enjoy.
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Impossi- James, [laughs] James Fessler on Twitter, uh, "Won't spoil the Matt Brown story, but, uh, you get, you could get a dozen guesses and not guess what LSU player's on Matt Brown's Grandese mot." Interesting.
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I, I have, this is, this is- I have no idea... this is fascinating. I have no idea. Yeah All I know is that Ricky Weeks laced a double off of him- That's right. That's right... in Major League Baseball. That's right.
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I've only seen the guy, like, 18 times in the past three weeks. Phil New, "Am I crazy to take the Titans week one of survivor? I can't get them out of my head."
24:37
Well, I don't know if you're crazy, but you got a pair on you, that's for sure. Yeah.
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I mean, look, I'm on the Jets, but, uh, it's definitely no more crazy [laughs] than us sitting here talking about liking the Raiders week one. True dat.
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And Jason McKinney, "I'm out of town for a meeting, and when I walk into my hotel room, I see this unpalatable water option. It's like I'm staying in a low-class motel. I complained and sent a link to your taste test.
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I'm waiting for their reply." He's showing us a picture of Evian. Let me just say this. Jesse Pagula post-match conference yesterday had Evian in front of her. Love that you've figured that out.
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And yesterday I had to go get water, 'cause I was running out of water. Guess what I bought. You still went Evian. Still went Evian. Yeah, you still went Evian.
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I'm not gonna let one or two sips out of one of our plastic cups- Oh, that's where he's going to now... ruin the feeling of Evian out of their natural bottle. That, the, [laughs] their natural bottle.
25:27
Their natural plastic bottle. That's definitely not made out of plastic [laughs] like our plastic cups. That's right. It's a different kind with a different dispenser at the top. Ugh.
25:34
By the way, here's the update on September wins. Uh, this is starting to feel like the month where the Dodgers just say, "We're not losing any games." Dodgers' sole possession of first place right now.
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They're six and two in the month of September. Remember they were my third choice, I just didn't like the price. Six and two are the Dodgers, and then a scrum of teams.
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That's eight other teams with five wins, including in that group our Blue Jays, our Red Sox, both at five and three. So one game, one win behind the Dodgers. The Blue Jays for us is a, uh, Circa bet with tiebreakers.
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The Red Sox is a dead heat, William Hill Caesars bet. Let's go Red Sox. Let's go Blue Jays. And Dodgers, do your part. Lose a couple games for us- Yeah, for real... if you would.
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Ladies and gentlemen, he is the host of the Shoulda Bet More podcast, comes to you three times a week. Uh, he is on Twitter at not thewillhill, two Es on the the, and he's the star of the Megapod, one of the stars.
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That's Todd Wishnev's podcast. It's Will Hill, everybody, courtesy of the Progressive guest line. How you doing, Willie? Boys, what's going on? Thanks for having me. H- How great is this?
26:38
How great is it to still have something you get this excited about in life? So great.
26:41
Start of football season, I just, I get excited, uh, you know, a- as much every year as I do the next year and, uh, just, it, it's like Christmas morning, it really is. It really is. Yep.
26:50
What do you, what, what do you enjoy, if we had to isolate one day of the sports calendar. Let's, let's take- Hmm... betting out of it for a second. Well, I don't know, maybe you wanna include betting. Hmm.
27:00
What's the most excited you get as an ult- uh, as an adult still to this day? I'd still probably go the first Thursday of March Madness, but it's close with about four or five other days. Yeah.
27:13
I think it's the first Thursday of March Madness, too. Or you know what? NFL Draft is a sneaky choice also for me. Mm-hmm. NFL Draft is a sneaky choice. And, and then the f- the first Sunday of the NFL.
27:23
I, I thi- I was just gonna say, I think that would be my call. Yeah. First, the first full Sunday of the NFL season. Yeah, yeah. Wednesday- This is not...
27:30
It, th- having this game on a Thursday, I wanna say I was, like, a senior in high school or maybe freshman in college, like, '02, '03, '04, somewhere in there, is when we first started doing this.
27:39
All right, we'll have the Super Bowl champion play on a Thursday. But for the most part, from what I remember before that, it was the season would start on Sunday pretty much. Everyone would just play on Sunday, right?
27:47
Yeah, yeah. That's how it wa- that's how it used to be back in the Dark Ages, back in medieval times. All right, let's start with baseball. We'll crescendo back to football. You have a couple baseball plays for us today.
27:58
Yeah, I'm gonna go under two and a half, first three, Houston and Philly. Really good pitching matchup. Hunter Brown, who has not been, like, typical Hunter Brown great, but he's still really good, going against Sanchez.
28:07
Thought about playing the under eight. I thought that eight was a little high, but you know, even number, small ballpark. If it's four, four you lose. I don't wanna sweat out bullpens. I'll, I'll...
28:15
I, I, I don't mind the under eight, but I'm gonna go under two and a half, first three.
28:18
And, uh, maybe I'll get a little help from that Philly base running, because I don't know, I think you were watching [laughs] some of it last night. I've never seen worse base running. Oh, God.
28:25
Uh, where they had men on first and second, and the guy up, I think it was Marsh, hit a ball dead center, deepest part of the park.
28:30
The center fielder jumps, can't catch it, falls over, it caroms all the way, like, right field. I thought inside the park, three run homer.
28:37
The guy on second, Bohm, almost gets thrown out at the plate, and then they did, uh, the old, you know, freeze on the line drive. The next batter, guy on second takes off like a bat out of hell, doubled up.
28:46
And, uh, they, they just... Sosa i- later innings, uh, hit a ball, admired it, and, and then, um, getting thrown out. But boy, that was some horrible, [laughs] horrible base running from Philly.
28:53
Not why I'm betting it here. I just was, uh, my mind was blown watching that. As great as the pitching is, I think base running and defense in today's game, uh, leaves a lot to be desired.
29:02
But good pitching matchup, first three, under two and a half. I'll be sweating this here I guess a little bit before the, uh, little appetizer here for, for the football game. They...
29:08
Well, who was the, who was the guy in the ninth who hit the shot off the wall? Sosa maybe. So- was it Sosa? He admired a shot. Think so. Like, that cost them the game. [laughs] That cost them the game. I love it.
29:19
And I don't think the announcer said anything about it. No. It's brutal. It's amazing. Um, okay, college football.
29:27
Despite their 60 minutes and one second win over Western Michigan, you are on Michigan this week, plus the points. I am. And by the, by the way, I did play Yankees minus one and a half too.
29:38
Worried a little bit Judge might, they give him a, you know, give him a day off to, uh, settle in after coming back yesterday. But they should, uh, they should light up Segano.
29:44
So Yankees minus one and a half is a play for me as well. But I'm gonna buy the dip here with Michigan. I, I know, you know, it's, it was ugly, not just with the quarterback, but they couldn't run the ball.
29:53
You figure, all right, your quarterback's struggling, you can just line it up and run it on Western Michigan, and we all know what a travesty that was Saturday night. But you know what? The defense still played well.
30:02
They're gonna hear all week they're no good, they shouldn't have won, kind of us against the world. And they've got in their back pocket this kid Tommy Carr, who's CJ Carr's brother, grandson of Lloyd Carr.
30:11
Sounds like he's a pretty competent backup. And uh, you know, the coach was saying, and usually the coach will say, "My quarterback's my quarterback," he has his back. He said, you know, "We'll, we'll see."
30:19
Wi- Williams said, "We'll see." You know what? He's kind of on [laughs] a short leash, which is, uh, uh, I think a telling comment. So- Would expect a close, low-scoring game, points at a premium.
30:27
I mean, you don't see a lot of 43s in college football, but, you know, maybe somebody wins the game 17-14, 20 to 17, and I- I'll, I'll plug my nose here and take the six with Michigan. Man, okay.
30:38
Gonna live through that one. Um, sorry to step on your Yankees bed. Yeah. My apologies. You, by the way, you think the Yankees are, are winning the, uh, the pennant? Let's start there.
30:45
You think they're winning the pennant? First of all, are they coming back- I, I-... to win the division? Yes pennant, no division. Division you're just starting to run out of games. Yeah.
30:53
Now, I know they got Colorado and Tampa's got Atlanta, but you start to get in the point of the season, Gil, where if y- when you're down four games, if you don't make up a game or y- you, you, like, you don't have any room to go backwards.
31:03
There's just such a thin margin for error. They do play four times in two weeks from now, last week of the season, all in Yankee Stadium. But if the Yankees don't sweep those four, they don't have the tiebreaker.
31:13
Remember, we don't play game 163 anymore, which is another travesty. I don't think they'll win the division, but man, that lineup, that's healthy now. You got Judge to go with Rice and Garcia Jr.
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You're throwing the Bellingers and Chisholm, and Spencer Jones is giving you some, some juice. With that pitching and the rest of the American League, I, I do think they'll probably get to the World Series.
31:30
I don't think they'll win it. F- probably somebody comes out of the National League and beats them, but, uh, I think they're clearly the best team in the American League. All right, to the National Football League.
31:38
Let's start with Wednesday Night Football tonight. You are on the Seahawks. Yeah, it's a lot of things you guys talked about, too, and, uh, we got the bad number on the mega pod here- Yeah...
31:47
with the, with the three and a half, so I don't, I don't love that, especially on a key number. But I mean, it was four and a half in February, and that's on a neutral field.
31:54
And you could say, all right, the Seahawks lost a couple guys here or there. They're banged up. Uh, Patriots maybe a little bit better. May's healthier, and maybe that's all true, but- Mm-hmm...
32:02
four and a half on a neutral, Seahawks won, they covered, they dominated, and now we're playing in Seattle, which is a dominant home field, a, a really impactful home field.
32:10
That's about as good a home field as there is in the NFL, especially on banner night, and the line's down to three.
32:16
I just feel like Seattle's being slept on, disrespected, whatever word you wanna use here, because, uh, you know, the Rams hype, whatever it is.
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People don't believe in Darnold, but I'll, uh, I'll put my money where my mouth is here and say Seattle wins the game by about a touchdown or so.
32:27
I just think, you know, the, the last thing on this too, the fundamental problem for New England in February, they couldn't block Seattle, and has that changed here- Yeah... o- in the off-season?
32:35
Will they be able to block Seattle? I, I guess we'll find out. We will find out in due time, and by due time, I mean later today. Let's go. Can't wait. All right, one other play in the NFL on Sunday. What do you have?
32:48
Oh, this'll be a fun one. Cleveland plus the eight/eight and a half. I know Todd got very upset that I tried to get eight and a half, not that he ever tries to get a- Never...
32:56
an extra half number here or there, half point here and there. There were plenty of eight and a halfs out there. But besides the point, I like Cleveland two through 53.
33:03
I th- sounds like they hit on a couple of these wide receivers, these rookies, Concepcion and Boston. Judkins is a good back. They've always got a pretty good defense.
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Now, you might say this is like, uh, you know, you're going to buy the car and the car is great, and it's a great deal, but there's no steering wheel and you can't drive it.
33:16
Maybe there's just no quarterback, and this is gonna be a terrible bet. It's possible.
33:20
But with a low total of 40 and a half, I just feel like with that roster, if I get anything out of Watson, out of the quarterback position, this could be a close game. And, you know, week one's always a little wonky.
33:29
What do we really know about these teams? So I'll take the points here with Cleveland. Should be a lot of fun to, uh, to sweat that one out on Sunday.
33:35
I, I agree with the, with the general sentiment about the, the Browns. If you can get anything from quarterback, they shouldn't be terrible. Let's set the bar there.
33:43
The question is, do I make it one of my five millions plays? By the way, millions line's not out till 10:00 AM today, I guess. Yes. That we made that m- I couldn't figure out what day it was yesterday. Millions.
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[laughs] Yeah. [laughs] If you were looking to make your millions plays or your survivor plays, those become active- Wait, what did we-... later today. What did we get a tweet from someone that they were- Someone.
33:59
Yeah, okay, yeah. I'm a- And they m- and they might have said Wednesday, and I just botched it also. I w- Yeah. And I wanted to make sure if they were out yesterday, we discussed them today. Yeah.
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And so I was in the depths of the rules and everything. Yeah. Um, Jaguars, you ag- what was the team you picked in the mega pod for biggest favorite, most likely to lose outright? There's only three selections.
34:18
What was your choice? Jags? I picked the Jags, but Fez, Fez, who was great by the way, on the mega pod, Fez picked the Lions because Dan Campbell goes for it on fourth down. Yeah. The fourth down variance.
34:28
I think there's a, a lot of truth to that. By the way, a little A and G civil war. Fez versus Mike versus Right Angle Sports on Twitter. I'm, I'm not enjoying that. I hope those guys work it out. Wow, okay.
34:37
Fez, Fez is in a Twitter battle with somebody? Shocker. That can't be. More with Will on the other side. He's got some NFL season longs next.
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Scan the QR code on your screen for more at sharpplays.com. So a couple college football notes before we get back to Will.
35:15
One, remember how after the, uh, Western Michigan-Michigan debacle, I'll call it a debacle- Yeah...
35:21
that, uh, you know, universally praised was Western Michigan coach, Lance Taylor, for h- how he handled the game afterwards. Just classy. Just classy, and the MAC with their statement. Classy. Just classy.
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And I even said at the time, the other day, I was like, "Maybe they shouldn't have been that classy," right? Mm-hmm, yeah. You did. Well, guess what? They're not staying classy.
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[laughs] MAC is, uh, MAC is challenging this now. Yeah. They want, they want a, a whole review.
35:47
It, it's hard to work in sports media for this long and not kind of roll your eyes at these things, but you're like, "All right, the MAC's released a statement. They're unhappy." Yeah. They want Michigan's win overturned
36:00
after what happened at the end of that ballgame. Said replay protocol was not followed. And then the other college football story. Do you, do you realize the [laughs] S- do you realize the SEC
36:09
is headed towards a vote tomorrow on whether or not to expel LSU from the conference? Yeah, I'm sure that will happen.
36:18
Now, of course, if that were to happen, and they're saying, you know, publicly, publicly facing, public facing, they're saying, "Oh, no, this is serious."
36:26
If that were to happen, obviously LSU then doesn't have a S- SEC schedule. Path to the playoff is compromised Forget about the money, right, that comes with the money distribution conference, right?
36:40
But all of this is because of LSU's flirtation with bringing pro players back this year. Mm-hmm. And it should be noted that LSU f- they, they filled their final two roster spots with non-pro players yesterday. Yes.
36:53
So LSU is now... Th- this vote may happen against LSU just for having the thought of doing it. They didn't actually do it. And that's also...
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Like, I don't know if it was gonna go any- if, if that vote was gonna go anywhere in the first place, but now that those guys are not even on the roster, no, it's, it's... It was everybody making threats, right?
37:13
LSU backed down. They didn't add those guys. Mm. And then just to follow up real quick on the Michigan, Western Michigan thing, the G- the NCAA,
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uh, issuing new guidance to establish a standard timing protocol that ensures consistency in the administration of all college football games. Memo was sent out yesterday to teams.
37:32
Quote, "The official time for all college football games is the time displayed on the in-stadium game clock,"- Hey... the memo said. What I said the other day. That's how the NFL does it. Yeah. Real quick.
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"When a replay review requires time to be restored or otherwise adjusted, the replay official's decision will be based on the embedded game clock contained within the program feed.
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If the broadcaster is unable to provide an embedded game clock, the replay official will use the game clock displayed as part of the broadcast feed." It's very simple.
38:02
We can't have a sport where the clock we're seeing is not the clock- Mm-hmm... you end up using. Yep. Period. Uh, Rhodes knows, "Who's gonna have a subpar game?
38:10
Other than the officials, it has to be the guy who said he sees ghosts turning back into pumpkins seems logical. Could it be a Mark Rippon thing where Sam Darnold just has his one year?"
38:18
Except for Sam Darnold had a great year with Minnesota- We're so unfair... the year before. We're so unfair, but I- We're so unfair to this guy... I think the same thing. I think the same thing. He won the Super Bowl.
38:25
Let's get off his back. Doesn't matter what he does the rest of the time. Mac, "When you and Kelly get a chance, be sure to check out the no VIG ad with Sydney Sweeney." [laughs] Okay. Hmm. Okay.
38:36
Are you suggesting that there's some VIG in the Sw- in the Sydney Sweeney ad? You know what I mean? Hmm. Chris Todd, "Who do you have in the golf match? I got golf minus the games. Golf minus three against Andreva today.
38:46
Love the show." Thank you, Chris Todd. And then Torch D, the one who put the satin in your panties. This is apropos of n- of I don't know what. He says, "Who the hell is Purvis Ellison?"
38:53
[snorts] Never nervous Purvis who won the, uh, NCAA champion with the, uh, championship with Louisville over Duke, over Jonny Dawkins and Tommy Amaker and Duke? Later to become a Washington Bullet? I don't know.
39:06
Uh, John- I don't know... John Lunn making me even more intrigued. Now texting in, associate producer of this fine show, "We can't show it on the network. We'll just say that about Sydney." Oh, okay. All right.
39:17
That could be for multiple reasons. I don't know. Will Hill seems like a fan of Sydney Sweeney's.
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He joins us once again from the, uh, state of Connecticut, courtesy of the Progressive Guest Line, @NotTheWillHill on Twitter. He's the host of the Shoulda Bet More podcast.
39:28
Willie, have you seen that commercial by any chance? I just happen to have seen it, yeah. That was a, a good guess by you. I have seen it, and Kelly is right. You can't show it here on, on VSAN. Oh. Oh. Wow. Wow. Okay.
39:40
Know what I'm doing during the commercial break. Interesting. Interesting. I'm not as, I'm not, you know, I'm not, like, Sydney Sweeney crazy like others are. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:47
But I'll certainly watch- Sure you will not care to see it at all. Yep... certainly watch the commercial. [laughs] That's for sure. Um, okay, Will. Take one for the team. I'll take one for the team. Yeah, right.
39:54
[laughs] Exactly, Will. Yeah. What a great sacrifice by Gil. [laughs] You're very welcome. Um, oh, look. Gracie, Gracie is texting me. I wonder what, I wonder what she wants. Um, okay.
40:03
This is, let's do some season longs. Let's do a couple of season longs here.
40:07
This, uh, this specific, uh, specific one is of interest to me because we were talking about the Dolphins yesterday, and I was just sort of talking about how, we went through their wide receiver depth chart.
40:19
It's horrific. And the point I was making was you don't have to believe us objectively about their wide receiver room. The point is, is that they picked up seven players after final cuts.
40:29
More than 10% of their roster is the discards, the last discards of other teams. So how good can they be? How are you playing the Dolphins?
40:36
Uh, there is that FanDuel under four and a half minus 160, where you can pretty much buy a game, and you know what?
40:43
It just, all the things you mentioned with the roster, if they get to five wins, and you beat me, so be it. You know, you got four against the Patriots and the Bills.
40:50
Even the Jets, I think, similar to the Browns, their two through 53 is not that bad.
40:54
I think Geno Smith, you know, last year behind a bad offensive line will play much better behind a better offensive line this year, and I'm not sure. Maybe you get a split there, but it just, it's hard to get to five.
41:02
And, you know, talking about their roster, listening to you talk about the roster, it reminds me of the scene from Major League when they're going over the guys [laughs] and it's like, "Who's this guy?
41:11
This guy here is dead. We'll cross him off." [laughs] [laughs] And like, it's just, uh, it's kind of a who's who of, like, guys you've never heard of.
41:18
And it, it is really just, uh, a roster that is designed to be picking high in April. So just to be clear, that's an alt season win total under on four and a half, 'cause their actual is three and a half, correct?
41:29
Yeah, you can- Hmm... you can go to these books and pretty much pick your juice, pick your number. Uh, minus 160 at FanDuel, four and a half. You know what?
41:35
For, for the extra, for the extra juice, I'm okay where, you know what? You get to five and beat me, you beat me. But I, I, I... Three and a half just feels like, man, any of these teams can walk their way- Yeah...
41:44
into four wins. Four to five seems like a much bigger jump when... It's just harder to luck your way into five wins when you're this bad. Yeah, it, I, I love that, Gil. Totally get it.
41:52
I mean, how, how often do we talk, we talk alt win totals all the time. Usually it's the other way, looking for those plus prices, right?
41:57
But I, I think that's one with a win total that low, give yourself another game, 'cause like Will said, anything can happen. We see that all the time. I like that. Okay.
42:06
This, this next one, I love this because we, we should really have a dedicated segment, uh, before any season, but really before the NFL season, of bets that are, have been sitting out there for the entire summer.
42:18
I've got three of them written down- Okay... that I haven't made. Yes. Well, not, not, not just you haven't made, that appear to be so obvious in terms of their pricing.
42:27
Like ev- well, let me give an example, and this didn't come... They appear to be obvious is the key phrase. 'Cause last year, remember the Chiefs were, like, minus 110 to win the division. Mm.
42:36
Before the season started, we were all like, "Oh my God, the Chiefs are minus 110 to the division. Are we really not betting this?" Turns out it didn't win anyway, right? Yeah. Okay. Will has one for us. Please.
42:46
Yeah, and, uh, s- you know, s- similar to what you're saying, this is just under the category of I will hate myself if I don't bet it and it wins. She, uh, Patrick Mahomes at FanDuel is 17-1 to win the MVP.
42:57
I, I mean, I don't feel like I need to give a handicap. [laughs] It's Patrick Mahomes. It's 17-1. He's 17, yeah. It's 10-1 at DraftKings. It, it's still Mahomes. It's...
43:05
And I actually think the fact that he's coming off an injury, the narrative will probably help him. He hasn't won this, I think, since 2022, so there'll be a, a little bit...
43:12
It, it's not like there's voter fatigue with him. I think, it, it, you know, it, it, some of these years, like when they were 15 and one, eventually 15 and two, he didn't even sniff the award.
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You just get a little bit bored. All right, you can give it to him every year, that kind of thing. I don't think that's there with him anymore, having not won it in a few years.
43:26
Uh, I think that 17 to 1 just from a price point, and maybe, you know what, maybe he's recovering from the injury and he's not the same. And you know what? You lose a 17 to 1, so be it. I, I just...
43:35
I'm surprised that number is as high as it is. We know it's a quarterback award. We know the handful of guys that'll be in the mix. If he's healthy, he'll certainly be one of them. Let's, uh, let's workshop this.
43:43
So let's say Patrick Mahomes has a great season, the Chiefs win the division. Uh, we won't even give them the number one seed. Let's say they're the number two seed, just to, just to make it a little more murky.
43:55
Is he more... Let's say he has MVP competition. Are they m- Are, are voters more likely to default to him as the MVP juxtaposed against him as the Comeback Player of the Year award?
44:10
Does that enter your thinking at all, that, oh, maybe given other competition- That's a good point... he'll go to the other one? It's still Mahomes. It's still Mahomes. I mean, he's still the star of the league.
44:20
They would give... If he's worthy of the MVP, they're not gonna s- stiff him on the MVP and be like, "Well, you know, we're not gonna give you MVP, buddy, but here's your Comeback Player of the Year."
44:27
He, if he's warranted to be in the mix, I think he'll have a shot to win. And again, it, just the price. At the 10 to one at DraftKings, you know what? I'm kind of indifferent.
44:34
But at 17 to 1, I just feel obligated to pull the trigger. Bill? I love the question. This is where, you know, you know, I'm, I, I'm captain Comeback Player of the Year.
44:42
This is where Comeback Player of the Year gets insulting. If anybody starts- I agree with you... thinking about it that way- Yeah...
44:48
no, it's disrespectful to the MVP and the, and the rare air that we hold that award in, right? So yeah, I, I th- like, if he's in the mix, yeah. I think, it, you, would you say Chiefs one seed?
44:59
No, I said two seed, just to make it murky. Okay, two seed. Yeah. They win the division. I guess it mat- yeah, it matters. Who's that one seed? Yeah. I, I, I agree with you, though.
45:06
I think almost giving Patrick Mahomes Comeback Player of the Year as a consolation prize to MVP is almost more insulting to him- Right... and to everybody else. Right. Yeah. Will, always a pleasure.
45:19
Who's on the latest Shoulda Bet More? Jeff Parles, Jensen Lewis, and you guys were talking about ex- uh, Super Bowl matchups. You didn't think the prices were good. I'll, I'll leave you with this.
45:29
Chiefs Cowboys 115 to 1 at DraftKings. I like that one. Ooh. Oh, see, now that's a price. Chiefs Cowboys 115 to 1. Where's the Vikings? That was a Columbo bet, leaving the door there. Leaving. Thank you, Will.
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