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Aug 22, 2025
Best of A Numbers Game | August 22, 2025
Best of A Numbers Game | August 22, 2025
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[upbeat music] The numbers tell the story. They always do. One of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
0:09
Friday edition of a Numbers Game here on VSiN, the sports betting network. Matt Brown in for Gil. Last day here on the desk. He'll be back on Monday. Kelly Bidleman alongside. We will talk some soccer with Paul Carr.
0:22
Can't wait. I'm, I'm very knowledgeable in soccer. That's right, man. So I'm just... My questions are going to be some of the best you've ever heard on- No, you know Paul, how, how he does it, man... on radio.
0:30
He's got three plays ready to go. He's gonna talk 'em through all, all of 'em for us. Uh, we'll, we will be more knowledgeable once he's gone. Chris Felica gonna join us. I have all kinds of questions for him for sure.
0:40
Jason Lisk in studio. Talk some stuff going on over there at Team Rankings as well, if you haven't checked that site out, one of the many that I use- Mm-hmm... for research throughout the course of the NFL season.
0:51
So get some insight from him on everything. Kelly Bidleman, the, uh, the, the casino was hopping last evening here at the old Circa. It was jam-packed by the time I, uh, by the time I left yesterday at, like, 10:30 AM.
1:04
Yeah, it was, uh... People in town rock and rolling for this, uh, contest weekend. Went over to the, the Champions Dinner last night. Mm-hmm. Had me a little Andiamo. Over at the D, yeah. Yeah. Little, little Andiamo.
1:16
Uh, you- But you're at the Champions Dinner. This is the one where they do the pr- privately with all the w- past winners. So everybody- Why were you there? Yeah, everyone that's, uh- You haven't won.
1:24
I, I- Haven't won anything. I, I've not won anything. [laughs] No. We're, we're, we're, we're a full-fledged in the middle of documenting it all. That's about it though.
1:30
[laughs] Uh, got over there and, uh, you know, great, great little, uh, great little steakhouse over there at Andiamo. Mm-hmm. So, uh, did, did that and moseyed our way over to the, to the bar, and you know, f- it...
1:42
I, I've had a little, uh, moment there because, uh, Dustin was in there doing his show because they had moved him over there for- That's right... the deal and all. And I- I heard that, yeah... I hopped on the old table.
1:52
I hopped on the old table. Oh, nice. I did see, see you in the show recap last night. Uh, it's, I, I hopped on the old table for old time's sake there. I, I know you miss it. Well, here, I... We do.
2:01
Every day I miss, uh, Bob St. Cyr and, uh, waking up to him and just, uh, it just being stuck in my head all day. And the Sigma Derby going off like- And Sigma Derby going off. And, uh, it...
2:09
I was over there a couple weeks ago. Had a friend in town, and like, there's just... Once you, once someone's gone to Sigma Derby, they always wanna go back. Like, I get it.
2:16
It, it's one of the most incredible things- Yeah... in Las Vegas to see. A- and frankly, the spectacle of it at this point- Mm... it's more. So we went over to the D.
2:24
There was, like, nobody upstairs except for 40 people around Sigma Derby. [laughs] And I was like, "We're not waiting for this." I know you guys- Like, we're moving on...
2:32
uh, who are regular listeners know what we're talking about, but if you're just joining in, so over at the D, they still have one of the original Sigma Derbies.
2:39
If you don't know what the Sigma Derby is, it's, you know, the little fake horses running around in the circle or whatever. It still actually uses coins. Mm-hmm. So it is a still coin-operated Sigma Derby machine.
2:49
And yeah, it was, it was popular obviously. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean- It was popular... oldest operating casino game in Las Vegas, I believe. Well, I mean, it would... At this point it would have to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:59
And there's, what? I think it's w- it's one of the... There's only one other of it, and it's privately owned. Yeah. It was- It's the only one for public. Yeah. And it was, uh, it was cool.
3:08
Talked to a bunch of people who were, uh, fans of the network, fans of the show, fans of things that are going on and, and everyone thinks they're gonna win again.
3:14
You know, everyone thinks that they're gonna win this thing, and so, uh, Kelly, that... we have to go break their hearts- That's right... 'cause we're, 'cause we're gonna win. That's right.
3:20
I, I- You and I decided we're gonna shop this thing... that's a shame. Andiamo's great. I always appreciate a steak dinner where you get some spaghetti up front. You know what I mean?
3:26
Little, little spaghetti to, uh, start. I don't know if you saw the ticker out there behind us, but, uh, we got another entry. So 20- up to 20 now. Ooh. Yeah. Got another entry in the 100K, so good on them.
3:36
All you rich people, come on out. Yeah. Come on. The more the merrier. That's a lot of money. All right, bro. We've been talking about... Uh, last night, Cardinals hit the ball for us good, so that was fun.
3:45
When'd you cash that thing? In the second inning. That's nice. In the second inning. That's always good. A second inning baseball cash is the absolute best- Yeah...
3:50
'cause then you just flip the channel and go do whatever you wanna do. [laughs] You just, you just move on. You know, you don't have to worry about it and, and watch the rest of the game. So we got that home.
3:58
They get to five runs in the second inning, so we get the over four and a half. Pretty decent little week here for, uh, for baseball. Don't like anything on the card today though, so, mm, it is what it is.
4:06
We'll talk through it. Maybe we'll stumble upon something. The Brewers beat the Cubs. By the way, the Cubs put Kyle Tucker back into the lineup. He went 0 for 4 with a couple strike... Uh, he just, he, he can't find it.
4:16
Something is going on with him. They gave him, like a, a mental break. They, like, kept him out of the lineup for- Mental break... a few days, like, 'cause he couldn't figure it out, and he still has not figured it out.
4:27
So this Brewers team looks like that is going to be, uh, their division for sure. Dodgers and the Padres both win, so the Padres do not gain any ground there on the Dodgers.
4:37
But I guess more importantly, they don't lose any games either. That's right. They don't lose any ground either. That's right. Yeah. So- [laughs] They both win, so we still got a race. That's a- We still got a race...
4:44
we'll just, we'll just look at it that way as opposed to, uh, as opposed to the other way around. I am s- I, as everyone knows, I'm a big, big Padres fan. For the next, what do we got? How many we got?
4:54
Three weeks left or something like that? Like a, you know, something like that. Dodgers minus 265, Padres plus 200. Is that it? I don't know. I'm looking at y- I'm looking at y- I'm looking right now.
5:04
Last day of the MLB- Oh... regular season would be Sunday, September 28th. Oh, so we got a month. Mm-hmm. We got a month. All right, so we got a month of all of that. So yeah, it's, um, it's an interesting race.
5:15
Obviously, the other interesting race, Red Sox/Yankees. We talked about that, how those, th- that is going to be not only for the wild card but maybe for the division.
5:23
I mean, there's enough time for, for one of those teams- Let's go, Yanks... to catch the Blue Jays for sure. Yankees lose. Yeah. I had to break it to you. I know. The Yankees lose six to three. Red Sox get it done.
5:32
Roman Anthony hits a, a two-run shot in the ninth inning just to kind of, uh, bolster their lead there in that one. Leading off for this team, he's got a 405 OBP. He is 21 years old.
5:45
He just got the $130 million contract at 21 years old because we're starting to see these teams, when they know that they've got an awesome prospect, they don't, they don't want to wait until they have to pay him a billion dollars a year, so they just, "Okay, we're gonna roll the dice.
6:00
We'll give you 100 million before we've actually seen a ton of, of body of work," right? Mm-hmm. And, uh, so far so good for that.
6:08
Again, he is, he's raking for them, and you listen to what they're saying, he, he understands his... If there's any deficiency in Roman Anthony's game currently, it's his, it's on the defensive side.
6:17
And, uh, apparently he's He's putting in the work. He wants to earn that $130 million Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah You know? Things you can fix in the off-season, or, or over several off-seasons, Matt. Yeah.
6:28
You ain't getting paid, you ain't getting paid for the glove. No. You're getting paid for the bat. For the bat. The Yankees walk nine Red Sox in that game. Nine. That's not ideal.
6:37
You're not gonna win very many games- Nine times... when, yeah, when you get [laughs] nine times. [laughs] You don't know what movie that's from. Ferris Bueller. Oh, [laughs] wow. Wow. Don't go movies with me, son.
6:46
Don't go movies with me, okay? Look at that. We had, uh, Glamorous playing on the, on the way, on the way in. Um- Uh, great song... and- I did have to double check who did it, though. And, uh, Kelly, Kelly singing it.
6:56
B-bopping along on my way into the studio. I see him just kinda like got a little pep in his step, and then he comes in and confesses that he, he didn't know who sang it. Had to Shazam it. Shazam still works great. Yeah.
7:05
It's like the first app ever on iPhone. Still works great. Fergie, um, uh, we looked up- Luda was in it. We were at Ludacris just a few months ago. We, we looked up Fergie. 50 years old, Fergie. Yeah. 50 years old.
7:16
Who would've thunk it? And apparently not married- Time flies... apparently no longer married to the, uh, the actor, Josh Du- Duhamel. Duhamel? Duhamel? Dude, I have no idea. We're gonna go with Duhamel.
7:26
Uh, Kelly, you, you cashed last night. Yeah, we did. The New York, the New York football Giants go out and...
7:31
You know, this was one of those information-based bets that you said you made earlier in the week, even though... And then we started to see some steam behind it. Yeah.
7:41
You got a better number than when this thing went off, but even with that, it was- Closing number gets home, too. Yeah... it was still...
7:47
Yeah, it w- it was, it was still just very obvious that the, the [laughs] Giants were kinda gonna be the team that had the more talent out there. It, it just took... I, I mean it took one week. Like, this is- Yeah.
7:56
It's, it, j- this happens almost every pre-season though, right?
7:59
Like, I, I think, I think j- handicapping quarterback depth charts is one of the most important things you can do if you're gonna go bet pre-season football.
8:06
And yet so, so often m- many of the bets that we make are the information races, right? Who's gonna play? Who's gonna not play? And we think that's where we can find an edge.
8:15
But man, like, the Giants, it kinda didn't matter. I d- like, I didn't really care if I didn't know at the point where I- Mm... at the time when I made the bet, how much Russell Wilson, if he was gonna play, if at all.
8:24
But then you kinda figure you're still gonna see Jaxson Dart, who's looked great this pre-season, and you're gonna see Jameis Winston, you're gonna see Tommy DeVito.
8:30
And it's, no matter what we think of Jameis Winston and Tommy DeVito, these guys have NFL- Mm... live NFL reps, man.
8:35
Like, they've started games in the NFL, and they're going up against second half pre-season defenses, and they carved 'em up. I mean, those- I-...
8:41
quarterbacks combined for the Giants last night, 27 for 40 for 320 yards, five touchdowns and one pick.
8:48
A- and Kelly, I know we talked a little bit about this yesterday, and I don't want to, I don't wanna be one of these people that comes in here and overreacts from a pre-season game, but it's not just a pre-season game, it's kind of a pre-season just in general.
9:01
I do wonder how long they're gonna be able to keep Jaxson Dart on the sideline. I- it's- Like, it, he look, he... Again, I'm not a talent evaluator- Yeah...
9:08
and I'm not at practice, and I don't get to see all the stuff that they get to see or whatever, but he looks like he can't be worse than Russell Wilson.
9:15
Well, it's, a- and it's also the, I, like, the reports we have heard out of camp- Mm... you know, always take with a grain of salt. Yeah. But, like, it's, they're, they're nothing but gloating.
9:24
A- apparently from teammates, from everybody. It's just he's winning over the team slowly, slowly but surely, and he's looked, he's looked great. You don't wanna overreact too much to what you've seen in pre-season.
9:34
Uh, but man, I'm, I'm with you. I, I didn't really think I, within three weeks I was gonna be starting to question that as well, of how...
9:40
I like, I think it's, R- Russ is gonna go week one, but how, that leash, I think, has gotten shorter over the pre-season.
9:46
I would think it has to be, because you, you look at kinda that situation up there, and if, if you talk, start to talk about hot seat type of stuff, I mean, that's kinda the first conversation that comes up, is, is- Yes...
9:57
that whole front office, the coaching, all the coaching staff and everything like that. Rookie of the Year. A- and every move we, we, we've been critical of is every move- Ooh...
10:07
those guys have made has been to prolong their jobs, hence why you bring in a Jameis Winston and a Russell Wilson. Mm-hmm. Right? To have an established starting quarterback to start the year.
10:16
But what do you have now, Matt? If Jaxson Dart actually develops, you get to be the guys who, who developed Jaxson Dart into a starting quarterback. Was it Wednesday that we were doing offensive rookie of the year?
10:27
Maybe? Yeah, I believe so. What are we down to? Down to 25 on Dart. Yeah. Th- we are, we live in the most reactionary time ever. It is, it is crazy. So there it is. 25? So this is even- So, so there it is.
10:37
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. So we, we- Let's move even just this mor- yeah, just from last night this morning. Yeah. Yeah.
10:41
So if we're looking, if you're, those of you that are with us over on YouTube TV or on our, on our watch app, you can see when we made this graphic, Jaxson Dart 35 to one, the biggest number, the best number you can get in the market right now on him is 25.
10:55
At Fanatics, he's 16. 16. He's down to 16. I can't argue that. Would you, would you rather have a Jaxson Dart ticket or a Tyler Shuck ticket? Oh, Jaxson Dart- Me too... for sure. Me too.
11:07
Tyler Shuck's 16 to one over at DraftKings. Because- N- n- not even close... Jaxson Dart is gonna be throwing to Malik Nabers. Yeah. You know? Yep.
11:15
I, you were, you threw it out there when we put this graphic up a couple days ago, and you said, "Listen, he might not start right off, but I mean, Jaxson Dart, if you're building a portfolio," hopefully people did if they were, had any interest in that whatsoever, because that number is long gone.
11:30
Yeah. Dude, down to 25. Kinda wish I took a piece when I said it. Yeah. We were, uh, lying to you [laughs] whenever we said that we would be able to talk the golf and you'd still be able to put in bets. Yeah.
11:38
That is not the case. They had to move things up due to weather. We'll check in over on the golf side of things, give you our thoughts as we move in, and some Major League Baseball thoughts as well.
11:45
It's The Numbers Game here on VSiN. [upbeat music] The numbers tell the story. They always do. It's one of those idiots who believe in analytics.
12:03
This is The Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN. [upbeat music] Hour number two of Numbers Game here on a Friday. Matt Brown in for Gil Alexander. Kelly Bidling alongside.
12:14
If you hate it this week, only an hour left, so don't worry about it. Gil will be back in here on Monday. Appreciate you being here.
12:19
Gil will be back in here on Monday, and we have a rather large announcements on the show on Mon- Did you just, did you just long tease? Long tease. To Monday. Stick around and find out. Surprise. Surprise.
12:30
[laughs] Big, big announcement coming on Monday. Just, just show up and, "Surprise. Surprise, everybody." I, I was gonna, like... I was gonna create... I was texting with Gil about this.
12:39
We were, we were deciding on whether or not we should create a multiple choice of what, what are the options of what could be changing. N- uh, no. It, it was this. But the problem is- Give it away... we...
12:48
No, no, the problem is you don't want someone to get excited about one of the options that's not gonna happen. There's that, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I can tell you what's not happening.
12:55
I'm not, uh, I'm not gonna be coming in and hosting the show. That was one of them. Yeah, yeah. I'm not- That was one of them I was gonna write down for us to have fun...
13:01
yeah, not, that'd be like, "No, not, not happening." I ha- Not gonna do it. I had Crack replaces Kelly as one of them, but I was like, no, too many people might like that. Like, they- Yeah... I might lose my job.
13:08
That would be, that'd be ungood as well. Uh, it w- I, I tell you what, though, this guy will continue to be on the program- Yes, he will... no matter what. Absolutely.
13:14
Chris Felica joining us here from Fox Sports, Bear Bets Podcast @ChrisFelica over on the Twitter machine. Chris, how you doing, buddy? I, I'm doing well, yeah. I'm, I'm trying to figure out what the, uh, the Giants...
13:24
It's ironic, you, you literally mentioned the name Gil, and as you mentioned his name, he just texted and he's on the grounds at, uh, Flushing Meadow, uh, uh, the, right outside Arthur Ashe Stadium, so I'm sure he's taking in some, uh, some qualities and some practice rounds.
13:39
[laughs] So he's, uh, he's enjoying the last day of his summer, that's for sure. Good. So he did get out there. I was w- I, I kept asking him why, why he- Yeah... wasn't gonna go, and then as he did- Yeah, good...
13:47
he did end up going. Good. Glad he made it. Yeah, glad he did. Glad he made it. Yeah. Uh, Chris, before we get to college football, we have a big horse race this week, the Travers. Any opinion on that one?
13:56
Uh, it's hard for me to... [clears throat] Excuse me. It's hard for me to beat the, uh, the Derby and Belmont champ, Sovereignty. It's a very short field.
14:04
Uh, th- this horse is clearly the class o- of the field, and I'm a little disappointed as to how short the field is.
14:12
But, uh, ba- basically, I'm gonna look at the card and try and figure out the races around, uh, the Travers and play some pick threes and some- Mm-hmm... pick fours, and some pick fives with Sovereignty pressed in there.
14:23
He's a short price. He should be a free square, as us horse players like to say, in the, uh, multi-race exotic. So, uh, uh, w- I, I think we're seeing the potential of an all-time great here.
14:34
If he were to win the Travers, and he were to go on to win the Breeders' Cup Classic i- in addition to the Belmont a- a- and the Derby, we're, we're looking at a very, very, very special horse.
14:43
All right, Chris, the legendary week zero begins tomorrow. Uh, I have heard a lot of love over the past month for Iowa State catching points. You're looking at...
14:52
You're looking the other way, though, in this game tomorrow. I, I am. I've laid the three with Kansas State, and maybe if it comes down a little bit more, maybe we can find a little bit cheaper, uh, of a money line.
15:03
I- if you look ba- I, I don't wanna always wanna look back at last year's game, but if you look at the circumstances around, uh, the game last year, Iowa State won at home 29-21.
15:13
It was one of the best teams, best seasons i- in Iowa State history. And if you look at everything [laughs] that happened in the game in order for them to win, uh, they were outgained by 40 yards.
15:23
Kansas State committed eight penalties, had a 21-yard field goal blocked, uh, had a safety. Iowa State... Or Kansas State, rather, was a combined four of 17 on third and fourth down.
15:33
Uh, fourth down and two on the Iowa State 35, just a plain drop. Like, like, there wa- there was a lot that went wrong for Kansas State in that game, which allowed the Cyclones to win.
15:43
Now, i- is that going to happen again? Will Kansas State play a sloppy game in the opener? It could. But I also worry a little bit about everything that Iowa State lost, uh, on offense.
15:53
Noel a- and Higgins at wide receiver. Now, they brought in a couple of very highly thought of guys, but will they gel right away? Defensively, I worry a little bit about Iowa State. Uh, it doesn't really...
16:04
That three, three, three stack really doesn't, uh, stop the run very m- very well. And y- and you worry ab- about, uh, Dylan Edwards and Avery Johnson and Gabe Urban.
16:13
Like, if, if they're looking at third and two the entire night, uh, it, it could be, uh, could be rough sledding for Iowa State. So I did lay the three here with Kansas State.
16:22
I know it, uh, we saw a four pop there briefly. At circuit it was three and a half for a while, and, uh, and now that it hit three, I'm, I'm, I laid the points with o- with the, uh, with the Purple Cats.
16:32
Chris, we got three massive games in week one. We got Notre Dame, Miami. We got LSU and Clemson. We got Texas and Ohio State.
16:40
Let's just start with, with the ones on, on Saturday, and LSU and Cl- LSU heads over to Clemson. We know they've, uh, been unable to win any of these season openers it seems like forever.
16:51
They, uh, they head over there with a lot of confidence and a lot of hype.
16:54
There's certainly the Garrett Nussmeier stuff going on about he could possibly be the number one overall pick if Arch Manning decides not to come out and all of that. How do you think the Battle of the Tigers turns out?
17:04
Well, uh, being that I am probably on, uh, Fade Clemson Island by myself for the entire year- [laughs]... b- being on the other nine and a half there, like, I'm probably gonna sit this one out.
17:15
Uh, I know there, what, are some four, the, a lot of, lot of fours out there. And w- we'll see. I, I have a, actually, a macro... I, I, I hate being, like, spinning it and dodging your question to ask you a question, but
17:27
are we, i- is, are we missing something here that might be obvi- Like, is LSU the best team in the SEC and we're just not refusing to see it and acknowledge it because of the combination of the Arch Manning hype?
17:41
'Cause the co- the, "Oh, uh, it's Bama. Bama will be back a- and, well, Ryan Grubbs there now.
17:46
All's gonna be good," and realizing that it's really not Bama because a big part of what Bama was is now sitting on the College GameDay set.
17:53
And then you couple it with, "Oh, yeah, Georgia's gonna be better off without Carson Beck." Mm. "So just gotta trust Kirby that Gunner Stockton's gonna be okay."
17:59
Like, it seems like there are three big questions with those three teams that everybody thinks is the best team in the SEC. Like, uh, LS- I played LSU at seven to one to win the SEC.
18:09
I, I know, uh, y- you're probably, uh, dialed into LSU more than anyone. Uh, w- w- what are your thoughts there? Yeah, I, I mean, it's, to me, uh On paper anyway, right? On pa...
18:21
They absolutely destroyed the transfer portal. All the holes that they had, they went and filled, and I think they backfilled it even better, and got a little bit of depth along, along with it as well.
18:31
And they have the most important position in all of the sport kind of locked down there with Nussmeier as well. I'm with you.
18:36
I know no one wants to hear my opinion on LSU 'cause they think I'm biased, but I do believe- [laughs]... I do believe on paper, though, this team is like toe-to-toe with, with, with anybody you put them up against.
18:46
A- and the result of that game on Saturday probably allows you, if you are a Clemson fan or, or a backer- Mm... if you are an LSU backer, it's not gonna affect the conference title races in the long, in the long run.
18:59
Maybe you get a better price on LSU or Clemson, whoever loses- Mm... that game, uh, to make the college football playoff. Th- th- that's probably the way that I would approach it. Oh, great.
19:09
One, one guy, uh, on the desk who's high on LSU, a guest on the line who's high on Miami. Big shockers here. [laughs] Big shockers all around.
19:16
Uh, Chris, I know you had what other futures bet you added, uh, here recently? A team to make the, uh, the playoffs. Yeah, I added Minnesota at 18 to 1 to make the college football playoff. And I...
19:28
E- everyone is t- looking at, uh, Illinois as maybe being the Indiana of last year. People are talking about USC maybe making a run. But Minnesota is a team...
19:38
I t- I talked about them, uh, with, with Gil previously, about being on the over, seven and a half in terms of their w- win total. You guys just pop the schedule up.
19:46
If you look, if you look at the schedule there, like outside of the games at Ohio State and at Oregon, there isn't a game there that you can say, "Oh yeah, they, they can't win that."
19:56
Like, there's a chance that they're 10 and 2. A- a- and sitting there on the cusp of how the, the committee is gonna evaluate them.
20:03
But if they're 10 and 2 in the Big 10 w- with, uh, with losses at Ohio State and losses at Oregon, then maybe, maybe if they're... As long as they're respectable, I think they're gonna be in the conversation.
20:12
Certainly with all the talk of the expansion of the college football playoff a- a- and the Big 10 wanting to kind of secure four spots. But Minnesota, they...
20:20
You, you've got a new quarterback, but you got a great two-way player in Perasich. You got a, a really good schedule. Last year they were really close to kind of a special season. They, they nearly beat, uh, Penn State.
20:30
They nearly beat Michigan. Uh, they should've beaten North Carolina. Three brutal losses. So I trust PJ Fleck. I, I think he's built a, a high character, deep team.
20:39
And I, and I think the Gophers, uh, could potentially be the, uh, the Indiana, if you wanna put Indiana in quotes, of this year. I think Gophers are a little bit forgotten about.
20:48
It's tough to get by both Northwestern and Northwestern State, though, in the same year. I mean- That is... [laughs] That's a lot to ask. Northwestern State, uh, from, uh, in Natchitoches, Louisiana.
20:56
I like that they put- Yeah, yeah... the state logo behind it. Yeah. Actually helps out. Yes, yes. Yeah. [laughs] Natchitoches, Louisiana there. Chris Fallica, Fox Sports, Bear Bets Podcast.
21:03
Chris, uh, we, you know, we get the number one next to Texas. We hear all the hype with Arch Manning. Uh, Archie's coming out saying he's coming back. All the different craziness with all of this.
21:12
And yet, here we go, they are dogs in week number one to Ohio State. What are we going to see out of Texas and Ohio State? I think we're gonna see a, a game very close to the vest. Mm.
21:24
Uh, I think it's a fascinating match-up to evaluate from the, uh, from, from the, from the coaching standpoint. You, you've got Matt Patricia, who we haven't seen in college, like ever. We...
21:34
So Texas really has no idea what we're gonna see, uh, from the Ohio State defense. We had a new first time play caller from, you know, from Ohio State in Brian Hartline. Uh, with, with a quarterback now who we...
21:44
Look, this is gonna be a different Ohio State offense from what we saw last year. Julian Sayin is not a runner.
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He can, he can spin it, he can throw it, but it's really gonna be, uh, paramount for the Ohio State offensive line to be able to protect him to get the ball to those Ohio State wide outs against what I think will be the best unit on the field, the Texas defense.
22:03
So I bet this total a- at 50 and a half. Uh, it's down to 48, and I'm still not sure that that's low enough right now.
22:11
I, I can see this being a, a 24, 20 type of game, where Sark is not gonna wanna just, "Here, here you go, Arch.
22:18
Go on the road against the reigning national champions and, and, and throw the ball to all of your weapons they're having." The same thing with Ohio State.
22:25
While I had mentioned Sayin can throw the ball, remember last year in that playoff game, they only scored 21 offensive points- Mm... with that great, uh, offense that they had.
22:32
So even at 48, I, I think I would still consider playing the under in this game. Chris, only got about 30 seconds.
22:38
How much stock do you put into this whole deal about Arch g- not going pro and coming back to Texas and all that? A ton.
22:45
I, I think anything short of Texas winning the national title and Arch Manning winning the Heisman, I think he's back for sure.
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So if you're looking for number one pick tickets next year, you might be able to, uh, fade a little bit of that Arch hype and, and try and find either another quarterback or a Jeremiah or, or Caleb Downs or someone like that.
23:03
Absolutely love it. He's Chris Fallica, Fox Sports, Bear Bets Podcast, @ChrisFallica over on the Twitter machine as well. Man, appreciate the time and good luck. Absolutely, guys. Have a great weekend. Thanks, Chris.
23:13
So we are looking over here. Russell Henley goes out. Birdies, gets to 10. We... Rob- Bob McIntyre has birdied. He gets to seven. Oh, we didn't even ask Chris about that. He's got a Henley ticket.
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We got a birdie from Fleetwood. He's at seven. We got a birdie from Morikawa. He's at seven. So we got us an interesting little tournament going on over there. Old-fashioned shootout there.
23:31
Until Scottie starts to birdie like seven in a row or something. Yeah. Which he probably, you know, will at some point. When we come back, we'll take a look at the final preseason week. Is there anything worth betting?
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[upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
24:00
Numbers Game here on VSiN. Closing out the week is, uh, Russell Henley, 10 under. Scottie Scheffler, eight under. Yay. Makes that birdie there. Yay. Kelly Bittland.
24:11
So, uh, but that being said Your guy in Ludwig, your one and only outright, uh, three under through six. He's at seven, so- All right... you might have a weekend sweat. We'll see how things hit, yeah.
24:20
You know, that or I'll just be regretting all those putts that he missed yesterday even more. [laughs] Joining us here on the desk, Jason Lisk. You can find his great work over at Pool Genius.
24:29
Uh, glad you made it in, man, and, uh- Yeah, thank you... staying through Sunday, and making sure that you're, uh, I- I- staying hydrated. You know, it's hot out here, and- Yeah... you know, the- Yeah...
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there's that- Try to stay inside is the key... it has nothing to do with, uh, you know, maybe any, any drinks that might be flowing, you know, here over the next few days- Yeah... with, with all of that.
24:43
But, uh, great work you guys do over there at the site. Well, I appreciate it. Yeah, great to be here.
24:48
You know, I'm, I'm from the Midwest, so it does get warm, but it's been, uh, even hot for, you know, what I'm used to. [laughs] Yeah, you get, you get some of the humidity- Yeah... more muggy, though.
24:57
Yeah, uh, you don't get any of that out here. Best part about living in Vegas, no mosquitoes, though. Yeah. That's, that's the best part of living out here. Um, so Jason, in town at Pool Genius.
25:05
You guys do great work over there. A lot of stuff th- started up with the contest this week. I... Just Survivor Millions, what's your favorite contest to play in, and kinda what are you expecting for this, uh, this year?
25:17
I love survivor pools in general, uh, just playing the, the different... It, it looks like such a simple game. Yep. But it is not a simple game. You can make it more complicated.
25:27
I mean, you could certainly just roll in and pick by colors or whatever, and you have a chance, 'cause 16 winners come out of most weeks. But there is strategy. There is all sorts of fun stuff.
25:36
The holiday wrinkle adds that to Circa, just the sheer numbers. Uh, so just survivor pools are just a fun concept with a lot going on behind the scenes. You mentioned strategy.
25:47
You guys just put out your, your strategy guide, correct? Yes.
25:50
Yeah, so we put out a strategy guide looking back at the winners from last year, looking at how things did, looking at what, uh, I, I put a weekly article out where I, I'll predict, uh, pick rates, things like that, where I think people will pick, assessing h- what went right, what went wrong with kind of how we- I read the contest last year.
26:07
And then looking forward to this year, the holiday weeks, other tough weeks, weeks you might wanna think about as your, as you map out your season. And some, um, not only basic strategies.
26:16
I think some people may not know what EV is- Mm-hmm... so we talked about some of that. But also, like, some, some contest strategies, like, uh,
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playing multiple entries, like how you wanna think about if you're, if you are playing 10 entries or five. Um, you know, we now, we now know y- there's a secondary market. How does that impact how you play the game?
26:33
Yeah. All that stuff. Um, and thinking about second-order adjustments to, like, the holiday weeks and game theory on a sharper crowd. How do you play when other people are also sharp? That kind of thing.
26:44
Yeah, absolutely. I, I... Well, let's, let's start right there.
26:46
I think for some of the people out there that maybe they're playing in, in some of these pools and contests, maybe not necessarily at Circa, but around the country.
26:53
Maybe they're playing these, in these for the first time. What are some of the biggest tips that you have for some of the beginners out there? Uh, I mean, y- get your picks in, right?
27:00
We don't want no- [laughs] That's right. Yeah. That's number one. Be in the game. Um, set that, set that alarm. Um, yeah, think about the future in the sense, it's not completely predictable, but it is...
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I mean, you got... Here, here at Circa, they're hanging futures on who's gonna make the AFC Championship. I mean, they do not price the Chiefs and, uh, Bills the same as the Browns. Yeah, that's right.
27:20
So we're gonna generally be right on most teams of who's gonna be live to pick late in the year. Injuries can impact that. So you do need to think about the future.
27:29
You also wanna think about how other people are gonna play the contest, 'cause it's not just about you. You make your money when you're right in ways that maximize your money, 'cause other people are wrong.
27:40
And so, you know, there's a difference between win... Any win's great, but if you can win when there's a very few winners versus a year when, say, there's 30, which could happen in this contest, right? Yep, yep.
27:51
Um, you wanna play it in ways that your outcome pays more. Talking to Jason Lisk from Pool Genius.
27:57
So we're gonna have, you know, a, a massive, massive 15 million-plus, uh, uh, prize pool in the typical one, and then we're gonna have this Grandi Simo. W- what...
28:07
Do you think, on a week-to-week basis, we will have the same teams be the number one picked team, or do you think we'll see a pretty big difference between the two pools? I, I think we will see mo- mostly the same. Mm.
28:20
Usually, in Survivor, there's, like, say, let's say five teams- Mm... that are really in play. And you'll see those five, I think, in most pools. But you may see a shift in, like, how steamed up one gets, right? Mm.
28:30
Um, you may see a team be more popular in one than the other. Like, um, if I were thinking about the Grandi Sim- it's gonna, it depend on where the final numbers end up- Yep... right?
28:39
If we're at 30 versus 50 or, or, you know. Right. But, [laughs] um, there is... It's at least in play that Thanksgiving doesn't even matter- Mm... in the Grandi Simo, right? It's at least in play.
28:49
I don't think you can completely not plan for it, but you should put less emphasis on weeks 15, 16. Like, you're looking for EV plays or leverage plays earlier than you would, I think, in the main Circa contest.
29:01
And so you may, you may reject a team that, that you pick for future value reasons in the main contest in the Grandi Simo, right? Right. You may not wanna be on that team. I- it is wild, 'cause I haven't really...
29:13
You know, [laughs] shocker, I haven't really thought about it much from the Grandi Simo pers- uh, perspective, 'cause, you know, I'm not in it. Yeah. Uh, uh, Matt hasn't loaned me that money yet.
29:20
I mean, there's still, there's, there's still time. There's still time. There's still time. There's still time. Hey, they got a weekend coming up. Who knows what happens in the casino, right?
29:26
S- spend a couple, spend a couple hours at the video poker machine. Who knows? That's it. Say what it is, right? Spin it up. Exactly. [laughs] Do, do they pay bonuses, the, the V's in at the end of August?
29:33
Yeah, right, I wish. Yeah, that would be nice. Just, just spin it up, buddy. We need to, we need to set that up. But no, but it is fascinating thinking about how that...
29:39
You're right, the strategy almost gets dumbed down a little bit when you go to the bigger one, because you're, you have to think about, hey, I might not need to think about further down the line- [laughs]...
29:49
and you didn't maximize your, uh, those teams early. So I know, that is, I think that's fascinating. Week one, we were just discussing this last segment, uh, and talking about kinda where we think we might be going.
29:59
I think Denver's gonna be overwhelmingly popular. You think they're gonna be the number one most selected team, and kinda who's next? I would guess in Circa, Denver and Arizona.
30:10
I would guess in the publ- if I'm just playing in a pool- Yeah, yeah... with my buddies, Arizona's gonna be down. Okay. The, the average public participant is not gonna wanna take the Cardinals.
30:19
They maybe aren't quite as up on, like, how the Saints are viewed in the markets. Um- All that stuff.
30:25
So I, I would think what- whatever we end up showing is public pick data across the country in survivor pools, Arizona's gonna be higher than that in Circa, would be my guess.
30:34
Because strategically it makes sense as a first-order pick, right? Mm-hmm. You're saving more future value.
30:38
Philadelphia's too valuable, I think, in Circa, where other contests that may not be quite the case and people will fire them. And so you're gonna have the... Those picks are gonna have to go somewhere.
30:47
Cincinnati's on the board. How will the public view them- Oh, boy. Yeah... coming off the last few years? Won't be me. Yeah. Will not be me week one.
30:53
And then Washington, there's, there's, there's a lo- I think question marks around Washington, right? Like, there's just, like, some concerns. Like, is McLaurin actually gonna get- Mm... worked in? Mm-hmm.
31:05
And, you know, 'cause we saw last year the Bengals offense, Chase played, but he held out until- Right, right... and was kind of a hold in late in the process.
31:13
And we didn't know if he was actually playing until, I think, Friday or Saturday. Like, he had not committed to playing. Higgins was out.
31:19
There were, there were warning signs that the Bengals offense may not be at 100%, and it turned out to be their worst offensive performance of the year and cost everybody in survivor. I, I think that, uh, yeah, I...
31:29
That, the Eagle- the, the Washington, New York call is interesting. 'Cause I, I think as of a few weeks ago, we would've said Washington would've been one of the bigger ones.
31:37
But like, man, we were talking about it today. How, how mu- how much opinions have ch- how many opinions have changed even just on this Giants team- Yeah... too, right, heading into the year.
31:45
I, I bet you we see lesser, less come in on that than we would've a month ago. So if we look at, you know, last year was just absolute carnage first couple of weeks. Mm-hmm. Pretty...
31:55
Lost a ton of people the year before in week one. Is there a theory you have as to why that is?
31:59
Is it, is it, is it just variance of the NFL and the parity of the NFL, or is it because we don't really know who these teams are? I think it's a little bit of both last year. Mm.
32:07
If you go back and look at the results- Yeah... right, you would never in the world predict Baltimore, knowing how the season they had, would've lost to the Raiders in week two. Yeah. Right?
32:15
But then there were some mispricings right early. Like, uh, we didn't know how good Denver was. Mm. They beat Tampa the week after, and, I mean, and they were pop... They beat the Jets. Mm-hmm.
32:24
They took out two of the big ones, I think, in the first four weeks were, were Denver over Tam. Well, that turned out to be Denver was just better than we thought. Yeah. Right?
32:31
Uh, same with Washington over Cincy on Monday Night Football. You, that line would not have been what it was if we had perfect knowledge of how good those teams were. So there were some cases like that.
32:40
Cincy, New England was a special case with how Cincy was coming in, 'cause the Patriots were not good. The market was right about that. But Cincy was hot. [laughs] So, so it was a mix, I think, a- and it was just wild.
32:52
I mean, there was just... So it was partially some of the teams expected to be good weren't, some of the surprises actually got picked against, and you ran into a team with, like, Jayden Daniels. Yeah. Uh, so. Yeah.
33:04
And w- we talked earlier in the week of just how some of these big favorites have per- have performed, uh, in, in week one of survivor.
33:11
I, Jason, I don't know if there's enough here to make me say I'm gonna go away from that still, 'cause it's... I, uh, sorry, w- we talk, we talk spreads, we talk betting all day long.
33:20
I'm go- I'm going to be a little bit of a slave to the market, right? Yeah, yeah. Whatever, what the- Yeah... market's telling me, I'm gonna believe it a bit. So I'm... We talked about some of those teams.
33:27
I still have circled some of the big favorites. Have some of these results, though, changed your mind on that at all, or not really? Um, just week one in general m- is tough. Yeah. So that doesn't...
33:38
My, my, my view there. The fact that last year happened doesn't change my mind. I mean, I remember people were predicting the contest would end early because of what happened the first four weeks. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
33:46
And we were like, "I'm gonna regress toward what has historically happened with favorites and how survivor contest eliminations rates have worked." So we never really... That was part of my article.
33:55
I never really projected us to have a ch- a solo champion before week 18. I was like, "We're probably still going the distance," and we saw that. Things bounced back.
34:04
So this, the average in week one's probably, like, a little over 70% survive. It is a tougher week in general. We don't know. Mm-hmm.
34:12
Uh, you rarely get teams over seven, and when you, when you do, they get really popular. Um, so it is a tough week. It does put teams... If, if we can get a team that's three and a half, four in play.
34:22
I just don't know if we have that team emerge yet. Yeah. You don't want the Chiefs at three and a half. [laughs] They have too much value. I know, right.
34:28
You want a team like Jacksonville to get steam, and you're like, "Okay, P- okay, what's going on? Maybe there's an injury.
34:34
Maybe there's something with Carolina that maybe Jacksonville becomes in play," [laughs] or something like that. But there's really not a great secondary option, I think, below that group. Guys, head over to Pool Genius.
34:42
Take in all of the great strategy articles. You can even, even plan your whole season out. Jason, appreciate the time. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you very much.
34:49
[upbeat music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
35:05
Final segment of numbers game here on a Friday. VSiN, the sports betting network. Matt Brown in for Gil. He'll be back on Monday, do not worry. And, uh, Kelly Bittling here on the desk.
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They will send you those plays either straight to your inbox or to your X feed, sharpplays.com. Kelly, it was fun to talk a little bit of survivor and strategy and whatnot with Jason Lisk of Pool Genius.
35:40
I've used their site. The, one of the things is- It's a great worker. Yeah... and this is a, you know, a, a, a...
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This is a free plug, but it's, I think if people are playing survivor, it's, it's worth the free plug, which is you can go in and they have a, a season planner.
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And that, you know, we understand it's gonna go haywire because injuries happen and you're gonna change your strategy, but you, you can at least go in and say, "In a perfect world, this is how I would like this to go."
36:03
Mm-hmm. And you can just go dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink. And it, like, it all, it just lays it out for you, and it's just such a cool feature. It really is. No, it's, it's awesome stuff.
36:11
You and I were talking earlier, eh, that, you know, s- also the guys that brought you teamrankings.com. Mm. I, I don't... I couldn't even tell you how many years I've used that website.
36:20
I, I, I mean, Matt, we're, it, over a decade at least. Yeah. I have no i- I have no idea beyond that. Yeah. It- Great, great stuff...
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it is just a, it's, it's one of the things, if we're trying to, you know, be better at all of this- Mm-hmm Should use the tools available. Yeah You know? You should use the tools available.
36:36
There's a lot of great ones out there. Yeah And, and like so we're trying to be better at all of this stuff. You and I aren't smart enough to be able to, to, to do this on our own. No.
36:42
We, we lean on w- I, I, I'm, I sh- No, for sure... we say this every week. We say this every week on, uh, we say this every week on Long Shots.
36:48
Like, I lean on people who are, who know how to do this stuff that I don't know how to do. I don't know how to c- I don't know how to make a model. Yep.
36:55
But I will take their work and I'll put in the stuff that I am good at and, and utilize their tools. And I think it's the same way with any, any of this stuff. Survivor, don't be...
37:04
If you're gonna spend multiple thousands- Right, exactly. Yes... of dollars to enter this thing- Yes... like, like it's like 10 bucks a month or something like that, like you- [laughs] Have a, have a plan- Yeah...
37:11
and use the tools that are available out there to help you g- help you make that plan. Like, like you're already invested in this thing, you know? So you gotta get it done. All right.
37:19
[laughs] Let's get to our- I, I do like the- Yeah... while we're talking. Yeah. I do like the, the paths of, of the guys who plan out every, you know, a- it's gonna go exactly this way. Yeah.
37:28
And it's like, well, yeah, but have you a plan though if, if something happens with one of these teams along the way? No, not really. Not really. Or, or, or you're the guy who's like, "No. I, I planned before.
37:38
That didn't work, so I'm just going in blind." And I'm like, yeah, guys, it's, the answer's somewhere in between. I'm not saying I've got it perfect- Right... but it's somewhere in between. Yeah.
37:46
You gotta y- y- listen, for me, I, I'm having to go two different ways this year, so I've gotta figure out how to, how I'm gonna navigate that. Yeah, but it's not, I know what that means for you.
37:54
It's not just two different ways. It means it's two different main paths- Yeah... that could potentially branch out- Yeah... 19 different ways, and you are planning for all of that.
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It's going to be, it's going to be an interesting exercise. There's no doubt about that. All right, let's get to our GBank best bets. Again, nothing officially here for me.
38:09
If I get the nod that Shohei is going to play, I'll probably be playing a first five or first five run line on the Dodgers.
38:17
But again, that is, uh, that's picking on Yu Darvish, but I, I, I need the two at-bats from Shohei if I'm going to be playing- Yeah... them in the first five. So I'll wait on that lineup to come out.
38:26
What are you looking at here? Think that makes a lot of sense. Mm. What, nothing for me tonight. I did add a futures bet. Uh, Bills over 13 and a half wins at plus 220.
38:36
Matt, what I'm doing here is I, I've talked about making this bet for a while. I'm also gonna bet them, I... We, we brought this up a little bit earlier this week, but last undefeated.
38:44
I'm gonna l- I'm still kinda just looking to see if any of those markets- Mm... populate here in Vegas, uh, before, before we kick off [laughs] in two weeks, so probably not. Uh, circus got last undefeated up at least.
38:55
I might bet, might bet the Bills here. But just kind of laddering up those bets on the Bills, right? I had bet them early on to have the most wins, uh, in the NFL.
39:04
So I think if you're gonna do that, like I bet all, all to over 13 and a half and a little over two to one.
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If we- what are the chances they get to 14 to win, 14 wins plus and they're not the team, the, not the team with the most wins? Unlikely, but you don't wanna be in that- Yeah...
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situation where they get to 14 wins and you lose that ticket and that's the only bet you made. So, um, a smaller bet on their over 13 and a half at plus 220 for me.
39:28
Uh, and then guest today on the show, Paul Carr coming- We have a little, some grass hockey talk today That's right, grass hockey. Yeah. Coming in with his normal three-pack. Started off last week two and one.
39:37
He'll be, uh, Bournemouth on the money line there. Crystal Palace plus 140 on Sunday. Bournemouth is tomorrow, by the way. Uh, and then Everton Brighton under two and a half on Su- on Sunday.
39:50
Brighton and Hove Albion is the full name of that team, Matt. Mm. And they are the favorite team of what VSiN on-air personality? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh- Benjamin Wilson is the correct answer. Uh.
39:59
That, well, he was in studio yesterday. Look at that. Look at that. I d- I think I remember now... he, he watches the soccer? Oh, he l- Really? Whoa, whoa. Wait, you've never seen The Ben, like re-watch soccer?
40:10
When I fir- first met Ben Wilson, one of the most fascinating things, or I would think one of the things I thought was most fascinating about him, I'd go downstairs, uh, into the basement of the South Point every day, and middle of the afternoon, he'd be re-watching soccer from the day before because he didn't get a chance to watch it 'cause he was working something.
40:26
I mean, good on him. That's Ben, yeah.
40:28
I tell you, I can, I can, I, I can assure everybody this, this is with, especially with football season starting this weekend, this will be the last time I talk soccer for [laughs]...
40:38
[laughs] I, I, I will not, I will not- Be the last time you think about it for a while, yeah... I will not talk soccer again on this network for- I believe you. Yeah, I will not. I believe you. That, that is for sure.
40:45
We got Chris Felica came in with a couple plays as well. He is on Kansas State laying the three tomorrow. I don't know, uh, how you guys have talked about it on R- uh, Ready, Set, Bet. Mm. You and Mike Somich.
40:56
I feel like we've heard a lot of Iowa State love on this show. Mm. So that was a little bit of a surprise, uh, this morning c- uh, with, with Chris having Kansas State laying the three.
41:04
Then he's on his Hurricanes week one plus two and a half. Also throughout Minnesota 18 to 1 to make the college football playoffs. You know what else he did?
41:13
He said, "Do we not know that, uh, uh, are we for sure that LSU is not the, the best team in the SEC?" I, I, music to my ears when he said that. Yeah. But he also said he hated Clemson this year, so- Mm...
41:23
it's kind of a, I think that played into the opinion as well. The, uh... I, I, I might be betting your, your Tigers week one. No, it's four. It's four. I mean, it, it is four. It's four.
41:33
I, I, I mean, if, if, if everybody we're talking to says, "I think they're the better team. They're the better team on paper. They're certainly whatever," uh, and, and, and you're catching four, I mean, you know?
41:44
This, it's also the Cade club getting to the point of like the Bo Nixes and Trevor Lawrences and stuff of I don't really know how good you are because all of the like big football guys k- uh, keep telling me you're going to be great.
41:57
But I just really like, I haven't seen it yet. And then it like, I mean, for Bo Nix- [laughs]... that took basically until the NFL rookie season, and I'm like, "Okay, now I'm kinda starting to come around."
42:06
Some of these, some of these guys just feel like they get crowned at age 11 of like since they're working with private quarterback coaches and all that stuff, right?
42:14
And it's like they get crowned then that they're gonna be like in the NFL and, and sometimes it d- doesn't work out.
42:18
I think one of the more important things that he said, too, is he, he fully does believe that this whole Arch Manning going back to Texas- Oh, it's huge. Yeah... is, is, is very real.
42:26
He said outside of them doing, you know, what every team sets out to do, which is win the national title, and him win the Heisman and all that, he said he thinks he'll be back at Texas, which is pretty, pretty interesting.
42:36
That was, uh- That is a bettable. Right? That is bettable. Because it's, because guess what? They, first overall pick is, is, is very much a, a market that's out there right now. Yeah.
42:45
If you, uh, missed any part of the show, as always- Yeah... go to vsin.com. Can re-watch, c- uh, catch it in podcast form wherever you get your podcasts.
42:51
But yeah, Matt, that was Yeah, uh, rarely does Ch— uh, I mean Chris Fallica comes on here firing, but that caught my ear- Mm-hmm... w- with how strong he, he said it about that. Oh, he, he, he, he didn't hesitate.
43:01
There was... Yeah, no hesitation whatsoever. It was full on like, "Unless he wins a Heisman and they win the national title, I do believe he goes back." So I mean, that was like without hesitation.
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That is V-S-I-N.com slash the letter G-B-A-N-K. There you go. Kelly Bidlin, we didn't get to the whole Malik Beasley thing. Um, I think it's interesting for us to bring up because it is, it- it...
43:52
very relevant in our space, in our world, and apparently now not going to be charged and no longer being investigated. You and I talked about how many millions this probably cost him.
44:05
Supposedly had a three-year, $42 million deal on the table. This gets dropped, that money gets spent elsewhere.
44:12
A lot of these teams have already spent all of their money, so I can't imagine how m- how much this cost him. This is... Oh, yeah, a ton. Th- this is a tough story I think for me right now to talk about 'cause this is...
44:24
I, I think there are... There, there's a lot of feelings I, I think that become attached to this story, it, that, they... I, I wanna hear more details first, right? Yeah. And this is...
44:32
You don't, you don't know for sure that something wasn't done, right? But there's just at least not, not enough evidence to bring a, bring a case against the guy. Uh, we know that much.
44:42
But I mean, Matt, if he, if he really didn't end up being involved in anything, I, uh, we need to start rethinking from a journalism side how we approach- Mm... some of these stories in the media.
44:51
Because it just- Everybody wants to be first. It is, and that's the thing... and it's the low-hanging fruit to go after these athletes, right, that could be p- possibly throwing games or winning bets, and I get that.
45:01
But if you get something wrong like this, I, I... This affects Malik Beasley's entire life, has, and it will going forward, and it likely cost him millions of dollars. Yeah.
45:10
So for me right now, very mixed feelings on what this story... I know JVT's coming on next. I'm sure he'll talk about it. Uh, right now I'm a little, I'm a little agitated though by the story. We, we, we gotta be better.
45:22
We gotta be better. We be- We gotta be better, yeah... yes, the media- Yeah... with all that. But like you said, Money Moves coming up after this with Stormy and Jon Vontobel.
45:27
We got the, uh, Prop Points after that and Make It Rain. Russell Henley bogey. He is only one up- Let's go... on Scottie Scheffler. There it is. Good luck on all your bets. [upbeat music]
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