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Aug 28, 2026
Best of A Numbers Game | August 28, 2026
Best of A Numbers Game | August 28, 2026
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[upbeat rock music] This is VSiN, the sports betting network. The numbers told the story. They always do. It's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander on VSiN.
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Good Friday morning to you. It is a numbers game at VSiN, the sports betting network, VSiN.com, GamePlus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course SiriusXM channel 158. It's Gil Alexander. That right there is Kelly Midlin.
0:29
Hey. Patton. Nada mucho, Gil. You good? I'm great. [laughs] Fantastic Friday morning. Yeah, man. Danny's last day. Danny Higgins' last day. That's how we'll- The farewell tour... remember this day.
0:41
I'm genuinely, here, look, selfishly- Yeah, me too... selfishly, selfishly genuinely bummed. Of course. And as- He's been a major part of the show over the past year... as his- Gonna miss him... as his friend,
0:53
good for him. Absolutely. Do- We're happy for him... do your thing. But, uh, it's Danny Higgins' last day, so if, if, you know, if things start to go wrong on Monday, you'll know why.
1:01
[laughs] That, that, that's right, and if, uh, if you're here for, uh, contest weekend and you hope to run into Danny- That's right. Nope. Gone... no, no, no chance. I think he's, uh, he's got the- Ghost...
1:11
the car's packed in the garage I'm pretty sure, and as, as soon as this show ends, he is on his way to Montana. Ghost. Out of here. Again, people should look into the whereabouts of Eva Jovovich.
1:23
She's supposed to be at the US Open, maybe she's in Montana. Just saying. Yeah, we'll see. Could be. Could be. On the show today, Paul Carr, Prem Picks.
1:30
I think he went two and one in the, uh, debut, the debut of, uh, Premier League picks this year. But you know what the one loss was? Oh, I do. Hull. [laughs] Hull City. Two and one.
1:43
Eh, we'll take the two and one every week, though. Chris Felica, triumphant return to the show today after what feels like it was about a month off from the show. Yeah.
1:50
Chris is back from his, uh, Alaskan cruise with his lovely wife. College football, soccer, horse racing. Felica is just ready to fire, and he's gonna be actually, uh, he's gonna do two segments with us.
2:02
He's actually gonna come a segment early, like Crack did yesterday. He's gonna come at, uh, well, later this hour, and then he'll bleed over into the next hour. Jason Lis in studio for Survivor talk. He is, yep.
2:11
Jason Lis from Bet Labs, uh, gonna talk Survivor. These guys wrote the book on Survivor. Not the actual book, but you know what I mean, figuratively speaking. Uh, all his tenets in Survivor. Jason comes armed.
2:23
And then it is Fezzik Fridays starring Steve Fezzik, who, um, i- are he and Brad Powers fake fighting or are they actual fighting on, actually fighting on Twitter?
2:33
Y- oh my God, that's such a great question, 'cause I've caught, like, a couple of those- I never know with those two... and, and I don't know. They, like- They have the strangest relationship.
2:39
Yeah, and I don't really know Brad that well, so- I don't either. Yeah... yeah, I've thought the same thing. I don't know. We'll get to the bottom of that. Anyway, Steve- Stevie has week one NFL play. Ooh.
2:48
I don't know if it's plural. I was about to say plays, but I know it's at least one.
2:51
He's got season-long thoughts, which sound awfully familiar to stuff we've been saying 100 times here, but, you know, with Stevie, it, it's, it becomes his thought. You know what I'm just realizing? So it's kind of fun.
3:01
Did, did I miss the Steve, uh, novel text message? Oh, yeah. He just sent it to me. Oh. Oh. 'Cause he, I don't know if he, I don't even, maybe he didn't know you were coming back. Oh. Yeah.
3:09
So he gave me a hint of what he's, he's talking about. It's, uh... Oh, God, he's got thoughts on college football. Whole bunch of stuff from Fezzik today.
3:16
I mean, he's all over the place, so we'll talk to him in the final hour of the show today as well. Um, can we give a shout, before we get into, also, can we give a shout to Stormy?
3:25
The great Stormy Bonatony, co-host of Money Moves here on the network. Did you see this tweet she put out? Sure did, man. Yeah, that one, that kind of went viral. She- kind of.
3:36
She has, like, seven million views on this thing, and what she, uh, she was very curious.
3:41
She, she just said, by the way, if you and I do the same tweet, we get maybe 3,000 views [laughs] each, but Stormy got seven- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah... Stormy got seven million.
3:48
As much as I love Stormy, this is not the first time I've seen this type of thing tweeted. I agree. But, but it- But it's Stormy... it's Stormy and it took off. And who doesn't love Stormy? Yep.
3:57
So, um, she wanted to know, but she was genu- genuinely curious about people in media, and specifically sports media, their, their salaries they used to make at the beginning of their careers, and every human being in sports media has responded.
4:09
Yeah. I saw Zab was in there. Everybody. 'Cause we all, we all have the same story. It's, and she laid it- Everybody has the same story... she laid it out well in the video. Yeah.
4:16
I don't, I don't know if that's picked up more of, if they're, uh, she, she must be f- feeling like she's running into more people just expecting- It's, it's on the trending on the right column trending, people in sports media.
4:27
Yeah, but, like, she must be running into more people that are expecting to just get paid way more, I guess, like fresh out of... I mean, all- Well, I think-...
4:33
all of us that worked in this business have a, a very, very small salary story to tell you about our first- Yes, we do. And, and later Kelly and I will tell you ours. Yep. Um, I think the genesis was because maybe,
4:43
I, it was Will was telling me, like, she's m- mentoring someone in school, and so- That would make sense... they would use it- Yeah... yeah, as a, as a sort of guidance, guardrails kind of thing. Mm-hmm.
4:53
Anyway, shout out to her. Great tweet. I think every VSiN tweet in the history of VSiN combined may, may not add up to that. Yeah, [laughs] maybe not. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe not. Uh, okay. Yesterday, baseball.
5:03
It was a short baseball day. S- short slate anyway, so not much changed in the, uh, the August standings. So this is the final, the final little stretch here, right? This is this weekend and Monday.
5:14
That is it, and with only four days left, you won't find i- this, I can't remember this being so strange in terms of games left, 'cause you would think, "Oh, every- does everybody have four games left?
5:24
And if they don't, they have three games left." Actually, the Red Sox have five games left. They have a double header, uh, tomorrow against the Yankees. So the Phillies right now, leader of the clubhouse, 17 and 7.
5:33
Remember, dead heat at William Hill Caesars. Tiebreaker at Circa. Fewest wins if you have the same amount of wins. Uh, fewest losses, pardon me, if you have the same amount of wins, followed by best run differential.
5:43
Phillies right now 17 and 7, four games left, current odds minus 145. Padres one win back at 16 and 8, and then the Red Sox and Rays and Brewers all with 15 wins. 15 and 9, 15 and 9, 15 and 10.
5:57
But the Red Sox actually get an extra game.
6:01
It is a double header, as mentioned, so the Red Sox aren't really two back They're more like in terms of their, their controlling of their destiny, they're more like they're one win back.
6:09
So it is a, uh, and the Red Sox, as we said, the three years we've been doing this, we've never had a back-to-back winner. Red Sox try to do that for the first time.
6:15
They have the best run differential of the month again. That's wild. Yeah. I know, I know Mark said this the other day, but now I'm just pulling up schedules. We're this close, four games left for Phillies and Padres.
6:26
I mean, it's, it's Rays, Rays for the Padres on the road, and Angels for the Phillies. That minus- Yep... minus 145 price is actually looking pretty attractive. Yeah, but it is baseball. Funny things happen.
6:41
So there's that. Congratulations to all who are involved in that.
6:44
And, uh, William Hill Caesars already has their August, excuse me, their, uh, September numbers up, and we will talk about those on Monday because as Kelly learned yesterday after the show, August has 31 days in it.
6:55
That's right. That's right. Now you know. PSA. Do you like me to tell everybody what we had to do after the show yesterday? Yeah, you can do the knuckle thing. And Kelly was con- It was, it was really effective...
7:02
Kelly was confused about numbers, days, and months, and I gave him the old thing that I used to teach, uh, Gracie when she was little. You put your, uh, your hands together, two fists together.
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Every, every high knuckle is 31. Every indentation is less than 31. That was actually pretty good. Yeah. Whatever rhyme that everybody goes with, I never, I never understood that.
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Kelly then followed up with a question, "Hey, when it's not 31, is it always 30?" I had to just make sure real quick on that one, okay? You know what? I'm gonna use the same- Florida State University, everybody.
7:28
I'm gonna use the same defense I brought up yesterday. It's fine. Uh, at some point, we all stopped looking up at the sun to try to figure out what time it was because we had clocks- True... and watches, okay?
7:37
There's just always been a calendar in my face, okay? Mm-hmm. I don't really feel like I need to know these things that often. [snorts] Except for when it comes to betting on monthly wins in baseball. That's right.
7:46
Uh, yesterday, winner in tennis, Ignacio Burzaco. So, uh, hoping to have a nice l- hoping to continue a nice little run into the US Open. Today, only one play in the Fakkata Strange Tournaments right before the US Open.
8:00
Draw was yesterday, by the way. Drew, Dinsic, Zach Cohen, and I doing the, uh, US Open p- post-draw podcast today after this show. Looking forward to throwing that up. Nice.
8:11
And we'll actually talk about, uh, my quarter thoughts here momentarily. But today, the only play is Nikola Bartunkova plus 112 versus Elise Mertens. That is in Monterrey, Mexico.
8:23
Shout out to Ryan Pineda, getting, uh, getting confident with the player cutouts. Yeah. Is that- 'Cause I, I would be like, "That could be anybody. I have no idea." Can I make an off- awful comment? Sure.
8:33
Doesn't Nikola Bartunkova, who is pictured there on the right, doesn't she look, uh, isn't she a dead ringer for Haley Joel Osment? [snorts] I, it's just because she's...
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I mean, see what you mean, but I mean- No, no, no. Any picture of her. Oh, any picture of her. Dead ringer. Right. If she, if she said- And if she was looking down...
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if she goes, "I see dead people," you'd think it's him. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, I'm on her against Elise Mertens. It's the only play today in tennis as we look to, uh, continue the run-up to the US Open.
9:00
Uh, shall we, I know we're supposed to do country clubbing next, next segment. Oh, Mother of God, you're right. But can I start with this? 'Cause this, I mean, you're gonna- Yeah, sure...
9:08
you have golf to talk about, so we better get into it. Um, oh, can I, can I also say just shout out to Jay Cohen yesterday. Mm. Mm-hmm. Again, Bill Krackomberger for making it happen.
9:18
Jay Cohen, one of the three founders of, uh, World Sports Exchange, very honest I think he was yesterday. I thought it was great. Yeah.
9:26
I don't know if everybody loved his answers at the end there, if you know what I mean, but- It is a- Had to ask... just a bizarrely fascinating story.
9:34
Um, I, you know, we've talked about it a lot with the prediction markets and kinda, and just the legalization of sport with s- some of the sports books, DraftKings, FanDuel, and it's just, some of these things are just, when were you trying to do it, right?
9:48
Yep. Uh, timing. Timing, timing, timing. It's incredible. It's just incredible how one story can be, uh, the result of one can be so much different than another. Okay. Let's do the, let's squeeze the men, men's in here.
9:58
We'll do the women's quarter. So the quarter odds are out. Shout out BetMGM. I'm not sure who else got it out, but BetMGM was the first here in Nevada to do so.
10:06
Um, and again, when the state gets real sports betting, when they legalize it, it's gonna be awesome. It could happen. Uh, I don't have, I don't have any play in quarter number one here.
10:16
This is the Sascha Zverev quarter. I would've loved to to have played Rafa-Hodar, but the, the, you know, everybody knows already, right? So he's only plus 240, so there was no play for me here in quarter number one.
10:28
I think Hodar and Zverev are absolutely the two men to beat here. Lorenzo Musetti historically has, has great hardcore numbers, but he hasn't been his best. He was his, at his best
10:40
this time early this year, calendar year. Quarter number two, uh, I do not have a play in quarter number two either. This is the Taylor Fritz, Felix Auger-Aliassime, Jakub Men-sik, Mensik, uh, quarter.
10:53
I know that, you know, we're gonna talk to Drew and Zach a- on the podcast. I know they love Felix here. Taylor Fritz, by the raw hardcore data, is properly priced. He has better raw hardcore data than does FAA.
11:05
You know what? I meant to ask you guys about him the, yester- uh, the other day, 'cause I feel like it was a lot of- Man, they love him. Who does? Drew and Zach. Fritz? No, Felix. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.
11:15
No, you're talking about him. I was, I was, I was just gonna say, Fritz feels like the one name I'm a little surprised I haven't heard really anybody mention.
11:21
I mean, I can't see him winning, and I know Zach was like, "Oh, he wouldn't be surprised if he d-" I can't see him winning, but his, just I'm just talking on raw hardcore data, Taylor Fritz, six month, one year, better than that of Felix Auger-Aliassime.
11:31
But no play for me here 'cause I think it's all properly priced. I will have a play in quarter three, and then a couple plays in a couple women's quarters when we go country clubbing next.
11:41
And you got some golf too, right? I will update the tour championship, yeah. Okay. We'll do that. We're country clubbing kind of guys. It's a numbers game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
11:50
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12:41
Live from Circa Resort & Casino Downtown Las Vegas, Gil Alexander and my little buddy Kelly Bidlin, everybody. Yo. Losing weight like nobody's business. Losing weight like all get out. What are all those, uh,
12:54
strange statements about him? Kinda laughing- Ooh... how many, how many tweets we had come in about the all months have 28 days.
12:59
[laughs] Mikey P on Twitter, "Having gone to college in DC, I always enjoyed hoping on the, uh, hopping on the Metro and having a train operator with a great voice announcing the station stops." That's right.
13:10
Uh- I think the red line was famous for that. "Unfortunately, they were very few and far between." Yes, exactly.
13:15
I think it was this one dude on the red line, I remember, would be like, "Next stop, everybody, is, uh- [laughs]... Van Ness-UDC, home of the Division II champ Firebirds," back in the early '80s.
13:26
He would do stuff- No, he would, he would include fun facts with that? He would do stuff like that. Yeah. Wow, okay. All right. He would do stuff like that.
13:29
Jeff Sass, don't sass me, Jeff, "Gil, look up, uh, look up the story on John Ratzenberger, the guy that played Cliff Clavin on Cheers, went on to voice multiple characters in Pixar movies." Oh, okay. Hmm.
13:41
He, uh- Interesting. Yeah. James Fiby, "Speaking of media salaries, when..." [laughs] Oh, here you go, Kelly.
13:47
"Speaking of media salaries, when VSiN increased you and Kelly's workload by 33%", it's actually about 50%, "from two to three hours per day, did you receive a salary increase of that amount?"
13:57
[laughs] That's a good one, James. That's a good one. Um, Johnny Ringo, "Would 100% buy the, would 100% buy that book, Gil.
14:08
Your career has been so eclectic, it would be fascinating to see how you ended up going place to place. You would have to read the audiobook." Oh, I'd, I'd have a ball.
14:15
Chrissy Andrews always said, he said, "I really wanted to read..." He was like, "I really wanted to read my audiobook." I'm not sure if he ever did. Yeah, that'd be, that'd be fun. All right, maybe I'll write one.
14:25
J&J Watering Hole, "Technically speaking, all months have 28 days." [laughs] Boy He said, "I would read a Gil book, for sure. Currently looking for books for my 19-month-old grandbabies as well.
14:34
Can Kelly write one with a lot of pictures?" Covered. Just kidding. Keep up the great work, gentlemen. Wow. And Matthew Mayberry, "Try to make a dollar out of 15 cents, a dime and a nickel." That was, uh,
14:47
that was round and round, right? Yeah, I believe. Thinking about it. I don't know. Um- Looking over to me... ladies and gentlemen, he is back from his Alaska cruise, where he- I'd read Gil's book, too...
15:01
sent 500 pictures to us, all beautiful, but he's back stateside. It is Chris Fallica, The Bear from Fox Sports, El Oso. Christopher, good morning, sir. Good, good, good morning.
15:12
Yeah, no, I, a, a, a great trip, uh, you know, o- off the, the Alaska coast, then wind up in Vancouver which is a beautiful, beautiful city as well. Some, uh, some great scenery- scenery.
15:22
You, you want an option for an audiobook that I think would probably be, like, the, an audiobook that would be extremely difficult to top is, uh, Tom Rinaldi voicing and reading, and he, and this is, this is out there, by the way.
15:34
He did do this. This is awesome. An audiobook of Tom Rinaldi, the man with the, the, the red bandana. Uh, the, the story about, uh, Welles Crowther.
15:41
Like, that, that's probably an audiobook that would probably be pretty captivating to- Oh my God... to listen to. I get, I get no commission from Tom Rinaldi, by the way.
15:48
[laughs] In that Rinaldi, in that Rinaldi inflection with little music behind it maybe. Oh, that'd be awesome. Yes. Good guy, by the way, Tom Rinaldi? Yes? Oh, great guy. Yeah. The best. I would- The best.
15:58
He can, uh, he, he, he can, he can take a jab with the be- He kind of loves being the...
16:02
Like, like, if I take a shot at him, he just kind of gives, like, a Rinaldi laugh and he, he, like, uh, he, "Oh, so mean," but he, he loves it. [laughs] Yeah, great guy. Great guy. All right.
16:11
As is, as is the staple of all Christoph- Chris Fallica appearances, uh, it's not just one sport. It's not just two sports. No. It's often- No... six or seven sports.
16:20
We have about, I think, four different ones here today. Maybe I miscounted. Let's start with... L- Well, let's segue from where Paul just was. You have a Premier League play as well.
16:30
Yeah, I, I bet Man City today on the three way, uh, against c- against Palace. They did not s- play very well for the first 50 to 5, 60 minutes or so in, in their opener against Bournemouth.
16:41
They're down one-nil, and, uh, miraculously they brought in, uh, Ras Musah, and they started to play better, and they wind up getting two late goals, uh, to get the win.
16:49
Musah needs to be in the starting 11, and now you play Palace, a team that has lost a lot of guys in the portal, managerial changes.
16:58
Uh, I would expect City to come out today and, uh, play much better from the start and get, uh, all three points against Palace. Okay. Uh, and then we, hey, we talked about tennis.
17:08
Let's get your tennis play out of the way. You s- you texted this to folks yesterday. You're super excited about it. You remain super excited about this play. What do you got?
17:16
I, I, I do, and there were a couple of reactions out there about, "I, I don't necessarily think that bet's gonna win, but I can see how you're gonna do it."
17:22
But, uh, I bet at DraftKings the field, uh, at plus 135 against the, the big three, as they said, uh, Novak Djokovic, Carlos Alcaraz, and El- and Sascha Zverev. Uh, I just don't think
17:36
Djokovic right now has much left in the tank. Could, could he pull a Jimmy Connors-type thing and wind up winning 25? It would be awesome if he did, and if he does and I lose, great.
17:46
It would be awesome for him to go out with a win there. Uh, Sascha Zverev's hard court form has not been great lately.
17:53
Uh, and, and Carlos Alcaraz, we, we, we still don't know about his health, all because he played a couple of m- mixed doubles matches with Serena, and there was a report about him, his practice going inside, so he necessarily couldn't be, be seen.
18:04
And that's a very difficult quarter, uh, that, that he is in- Yes, it is... as well. So, uh, someone said if they, if one of those three get to the final, could you see any, uh, anyone else beating them?
18:14
Maybe not, but, uh, at this price where I get the field against guys who I think all have a little bit of a, uh, flaws right now and, and reasons to try and fade them, I took that.
18:24
And finally, I would have told, uh, Danny this last night, but I did not see the prices until this morning when they just got put up. I just heard you talking about the quarters, uh, as well.
18:34
I did take a shot against Djokovic in that quarter. I did bet- Uh, Brandon Nakashima- There we go... at seven to one in that quarter. He, he's been playing great, um, in, in the hard court right now.
18:43
So, uh, I know, Kelly, you mentioned him, but, uh, yeah, I did take, uh, Nakashima seven to one. Okay, so we both targeted the Djokovic quarter. You took Nakashima- Yeah... I took Daniil Medvedev.
18:52
Yeah, we were saying a little bit th- about this off air. I like your, I like the field price at plus 135 versus Carlitos, Djokovic, and Zverev, but I also can imagine it losing, right?
19:03
Because in, in, i- because as you said- Mm-hmm... off air, those guys deep in a tournament, like, if they get d- I don't see them losing, right? Like, if Carlitos got to the semis, is he...
19:12
Then, then we're like, "Oh, he's Carlitos again." Same thing with- Right... same thing with Djokovic, same thing with Sasha. Okay, uh, interesting play, though. I, where, where did you get that, by the way?
19:20
That was at DraftKings. At DraftKings. Okay. Um- Yep... okay.
19:23
And, and they have one on the women's side, too, uh, w- w- which I think they have a- an Iga and Sabalenka versus the field, and I think they have an Iga, uh, Sabalenka, and someone else versus the field.
19:33
I really don't... I didn't take a, a, a stand there.
19:36
I do think you probably have to maybe play against Sabalenka, even though her quarter's very easy, but she, she is, what, not been to a final in, what, seven months or whatever.
19:45
Like, it, it, she's, she's well off her game [laughs] right now. So I, I would certainly be open to playing, uh, some prices there against her in the, in the overall market. All right.
19:53
Chris Felica is, of course, you think his bread and butter is college football. We will save the college football for after the break. Really, his bread and butter, and his margarine as well, is horsies.
20:02
[laughs] Saratoga today. What do you got? I Can't Believe It's Not Butter. Yeah. [laughs] That's right, back in the day. Oh, is this new? Ne- never, ever, never, ever a margarine guy, Gil. Never. Never ever.
20:15
Oh, you, you really had that, uh, taste sensitivity between butter and margarine? Really?
20:19
No, I, I would, I w- I, I shouldn't say I'm never a m- I, I would use margarine maybe to heat up a, a frying pan to make it a little bit non-stick. Hmm. But in terms of, like, margarine on toast or something, no.
20:30
Gosh, no. Ugh. Ugh. Nah. I have- Just, just give me the real, good, pure, pure cultured butter and I'm, and salted butter and I'm good to go. I have both in my fridge currently. There you go.
20:41
'Cause I go back and forth on this. I, l- kinda like Chris is saying. Okay. Sometimes I'm like, "That was disgusting. Give me real butter." [laughs] Okay. Uh, Saratoga. Are these today or tomorrow, Chris?
20:50
These are tomorrow. All right. Um, uh, they're big, probably the biggest day of the meet at Saratoga. Uh, bunch of stakes races.
20:58
There, there are more stakes races than this, but these were three that I kinda looked at and looked at some, some ways to potentially play.
21:05
Uh, in the Lake Placid, uh, Chad Brown has a, a first-time import named Naomis who comes in in the form, uh, the European form. Looks good.
21:14
Uh, the workout over the surface looks good, but just gonna be a question of whether this horse breaks out of the starting gate in, in good fashion.
21:21
That's the biggest concern that you have a lot of times with these horses that come from Europe for the first time.
21:26
They don't break in a gate necessarily over there, and, uh, maybe they act up and they don't get a clean trip. But I like this horse.
21:32
Uh, Naomis, three to one, will probably be shorter than that, so if you can find a fixed odds shop, uh, I would recommend that. Uh, the Ballerina, uh, this is a great race. I am...
21:43
Y- you may not like Eclatante, but, uh, I w- am against Ways and Means, who's gonna be the favorite in this race. Uh, she is a really, really hard horse to ride and handle.
21:53
She's always seems like she's all out in races, and she won Saratoga on, on Belmonte at a very, very short price, and was all out to win.
22:03
So, uh, Eclatante I think is gonna get a good setup from that outside post, so I like her. And then the big race, the, uh, the Midsummer Classic.
22:10
Uh, the, the, the Midsummer, like, the fourth leg of the Triple Crown, per se. Uh, the Travers Stakes is a great race. Uh, you've got Golden Tempo, who won two of the three legs of the Triple Crown.
22:20
You've got Renegade, who was the Derby favorite. Uh, but I like a horse coming in, Leading Change, who's a horse, Kelly, that you're familiar with.
22:27
We, we recommended betting this horse to win the Kentucky Derby at really nice price. Yep, that's right. And then got hurt- We did, yep... training.
22:34
Uh, never made, never, never made his debut until, uh, a couple months ago. Won the debut. Uh, won, I believe it was, uh, Thistle Down, the Indiana Derby I think it was, or the Ohio. One, one of the...
22:44
W- maybe it's Indi- yeah. Maybe it was Indianapolis he won. I forget the race, the prep race, but, uh,
22:49
I think this horse kinda being the new shooter on the trail, Ch- uh, Brad Cox says this horse can be very tactically placed.
22:57
A lot of times on big stakes days at Saratoga, you see a very speed favoring, so maybe that might work against Renegade a little bit and favor a horse that might be closer to the front end, uh, like Leading Change.
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And that price on Leading Change is great, 12 to one. All right. We've saved the best for last. College football season longs and a week zero play from Chris next on a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
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Uh, this is always a treat to have in studio. Kelly, by the way, has, uh, temporarily gone behind the glass because we made room for Jason Lisk from Pool Genius Talks and Survivor with us.
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He is kind enough to join us in studio once again. Jason, good morning to you, sir. Good morning. Thank you for having me. It's, it, it, yeah, great resort, wonderful rooms. You know, the Stadium Swim is hopping. Yeah.
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Uh, and- We're saying the three things are, uh, the th- three things that they're known for, the large sportsbook- Yeah... Stadium Swim, and the show- and the pressure in the shower. Yes.
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The water pressure in the shower. Oh, yes, and the bench, and the just everything. Oh, there's a bench in there? In my, yeah, in my room there's a little bench in the hot shower and everything. Wow.
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Yeah, it's, it's great. Great, uh, a- awesome, awesome service, awesome, uh, experience here. Uh, I haven't really [laughs] spent time at Stadium Swim. I've heard it and I've seen it.
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[laughs] But I have spent time in the sportsbook behind us, uh- Got my golf picks in for the morning- Oh, nice. Okay... the Tour Championship. Care to share anything or...?
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Uh, I took, uh, some of the head-to-heads today, 'cause I don't, I don't wanna outright... I- I'm leaving before Sunday, so I don't wanna- Oh... have to come back and- Gotcha. So I got some head-to-heads in action today.
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I, I had Matsuyama over Cam Young. Okay. Uh, I have Cantlay over McIlroy in a head-to-head, so I just have a couple things like that. Bit of Cantlay love going around this week. Yeah.
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You know, he's been playing well lately. All right. Pool Genius. For those who aren't familiar, you have a... By the way, you can follow Jason on Twitter @JasonLisk.
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You've, you have been in the survivor game for a long time. Yeah. I always say you wrote the book on sort of survivor tenets, if not strategy. And you always did such a great job.
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I've, I've quoted you liberally on the show here- Mm-hmm... uh, going over some of your stuff. But what's this? This is an exciting product right here that you have, Pool Genius. Yeah. Explain what this is. Yeah.
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If people wanna see this, they can go to poolgenius.com. There's ac- you can actually see the best offers, poolgenius.com/beason.
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Um, but yeah, we have, we have survivor products in general, but we also last year launched a circus survivor product where I'm actually...
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You know, we, we take in, once we get the, the entries rolling and we see people picked week one- Mm-hmm... we actually intake that, and we can see who's still alive, what they've used. That's good.
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And we can- So, yeah, so people can hear you. Yeah. We, we can intake, um... And I project out pick popularity each week. Oh. And we have our odds.
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And so you can see what I'm projecting for not only this week, but honestly I do it every, for all 18 weeks. Every week of the year on Tuesday, I'm rerunning the numbers based on what the results roll in.
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So that's throughout the year. So we have pick popularity projections coming in for you in this product.
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We have other tools, optimal path tools, that run kinda your best path once we know exactly who you picked to that point.
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You tell us, "These are the four teams that have been picked on in entry through week four," we will run the path that gives you the best odds to survive the rest of the year, things like that. Very cool.
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And once again, where is that? Pool Genius? Poolgenius.com. And we have a variety of pool products, but- Yeah... Circus Survivor is a specific one there you can check out.
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I, I feel like I should then ask, so what's your projections for week one in terms of popularity? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, you've probably broken down week one some, so you know what the layout is.
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We have a couple of big favorites. Mm-hmm. Sure. We might have our first double-digit favorite in week one at close, at least in our consensus data since 2019.
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'Cause I think Denver closed below 10 last year against Tennessee. We've come close, but we've had some nines recently. We haven't had a close at 10 and a half, but the Chargers are there right now at 10 and a half.
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Have we really not had a double-digit favorite week one in that long? Uh, there might've been some from book to book, but- Yeah... like across, we, we take- Not a consensus... consensus data.
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We, we, we had some nine and a halfs. We, uh, the last double digit at, at 10 was, uh, I believe it was the Eagles in 2019, maybe against Washington, um, was the last one. So yeah, it hasn't happened.
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The last double digit to lose, you might remember this game, Drew Brees, the Saints played the Bucs, and Jameis Winston was out and Ryan Fitzpatrick came in and the line steamed up. Oh, yeah.
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And it turned into a massive shootout. Mm-hmm. And the Bucs knocked out like 30, 35% of survivor pools in week one that year. Yeah, I remember it well. Yeah. All right. So, so Chargers will be the most picked, of course?
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Chargers. Charge, I think will be the most picked, because- Because, because after week two, their schedule just gets so hard anyway. Yeah. I, I mean, there's some spots. I mean, they're, they're a playoff contender.
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They could pop up and, and if you s- do save them, you might have some good value spots later.
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But they, they aren't, they don't play on the holiday slates, so I don't think people will be feeling pressure to save them for that reason.
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Whereas, say, Detroit, who is sitting there as a seven, seven-point favorite in week one, does. And so that might push Detroit's ownership down in week one at Circa.
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Uh, Jacksonville's the next, the only other one over seven. They're at seven and a half against Cleveland with the fighting Deshaun Watsons. [laughs] Mm-hmm.
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And so really, unless you're gonna take one of those three teams, whether it's this contest or any other, you're dropping down to like a four, a three and a half, and how many people are gonna be willing to do that?
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I think some will, obviously. We know some will, but- I mentioned this the, uh, last week or whenever it was that I did a survivor thing, which again, this is not gonna work out every week. Right.
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But a, a North Star, a good sort of guiding light for survivor is actually figure out by tools like you, like you have here- Mm-hmm...
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who's gonna be the most selected, and then think about playing maybe the second or third most popular. Yeah. Optimal strategy-wise. Yeah.
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W- in fact, I covered that in some of, in our guide this year in talking about, uh, strategy.
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There is benefit to that, obviously, for the reasons like, like I said, the Chargers, I think they're a really solid pick in week one, but if you save them, there might be a spot that pops up later, right?
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Last year, think about it. Why did w- why did people use Denver? They were the biggest favorite in week one.
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But we also didn't think they were gonna be, you know, the num- number two seed or number one seed in the conference, you know, get a bye or, or, uh... Did they get the bye? Yeah, they got the bye.
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New England played, didn't they? Denver had the bye. Yeah. And, uh- Mm-hmm... and so we didn't think that was gonna be the case in week one,
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so a lot of people piled on them, and I think they were like 35%-plus in, in Circa and in a lot of survivor pools. Well, week 10, you might've needed them. That was a wipeout week with Carolina.
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They would've been great to have there. There were some other spots where they get... Nobody had them by Christmas, right? Right. They turned [laughs] into a massive favorite that w- Yeah.
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I, I can't tell you we would predict that. Uh, but, but those spots do pop up if you have a good team that you save- It, it is-... when others use them. It's a fluid situation. Yes. Very much so.
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Uh, who are you gonna play? Have, first of all, have you entered the contest yet? I haven't yet. Uh- Okay... that, that's something I'll, I'll, I'll do after we get all this stuff done today.
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I, I have to remind myself to do it as well. Yes. Yeah. So, um- How many entries are you gonna go with? Well, I've got, I've gotta talk to- Mr. Pool Genius, how many are you going with? I've got...
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Uh, so, so I'm not as wealthy as some of the, some of our big wheelers out here in Vegas. Yeah.
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So I'll, I'll have a few personally, and I'll, I'll talk to some others to see if they wanna go in with me before I leave town. Um- Will you have at least one on the Chargers?
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So if I had a pick, uh, the single pick of integrity, right? Yeah, uh, yes, yes, yes, yes. That's right. Let's, let's talk with one- Yes... with one entry you would go with. This, here's, I would probably go...
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'Cause the team that strategically makes some sense but scares me is Las Vegas. I mean- Oh, right... right?
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Because, and I think they're gonna be more popular in Circa than they will be in, in your standard home survivor pool, uh, because they're a th- they're a three and a half against Miami.
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But you got new coaches, you got all sorts- Yeah... of situations. But from a strategy standpoint, you're probably never gonna use a team like that. You'll never use them again, but that would take some onions.
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It takes 320. For sure. It would take some onions. Yeah. With a, with a pick of integrity, I think I would go Chargers, 'cause I do think the Jacksonville Jaguars are both a smaller favorite and have some sneakier spots.
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Like, they could be really important week 12 B, which is the Sunday after Thanksgiving, if you can get there. Mm-hmm.
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That week looks actually pretty tough, too, and they're, they're one of the, uh, potential bigger favorites there.
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So if I'm choosing between Chargers, Detroit, Jacksonville, the, the three above a four and a half, I think the Chargers is pro- it's probably eat 'em this week with, with the pick of integrity, and then
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diversify if you're playing 10, right? You're, you're, you're not gonna go more than s- I, I would probably not have more than three, four, five- I like-... or whatever... I like that you phrase it that way.
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If, if you've got the one, I like you say, the pick of integrity- Right... I, I would say you play one optimally, and the rest you play somewhat suboptimally sometimes, I guess.
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Uh, maybe that's not the right way to say it. Yeah, yeah. But you certainly play 'em differently, and only one is truly your optimal play- Y-... ultimately. Yeah.
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I know some people, and including a couple that won last year, went all in in week one on 10 picks. Yeah. That's probably not my default, but I'm probably like, I, I'm like a two or three type person typically. Mm-hmm.
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Especially on a week like this, I'm probably not spreading it on four or five, like, with 10 entries. No way. I'm picking two, maybe three, a- and launching out at that with 10 picks.
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What's the team that scares you the most that you think will be among the most selected in week one? Well, I mean, I talked about Las Vegas. Yeah.
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Uh, that's a pick I w- it, I'm going to make that in a lot of survivor pools that I'm gonna play in, 'cause I'm, uh, gonna be in a lot of others that have multi-picks w- later in the year and stuff like that.
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So it, you kind of have to take a team like that, but I'm gonna hate every minute of it. [laughs] That's right. You know? Just get me through this. I'm gonna hate everything about it.
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You- And you hope when you look back, you see that in the week one with a win next to it, and you're like- This is-... awesome... this is the b- you just expressed the beauty of the game though, right? Yes, yes.
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To have to live through that. Yeah. You're gonna hate, like, half the picks you make in this contest- Oh... if you're successful. You gots to. You, you have to hate- Yeah... you, you could...
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You can't pick the Rams every week. You can't love that pick every week. You are not permitted to pick the Rams every week. That's right. It is not allowed. Right.
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Uh, you are also, uh, Pool Genius, and you, the author, you also are in the latest betting guide iteration- Yep... here at VSiN. Yep, yep, yep. What is that gonna be?
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A two, like an insert, and you're gonna give some survivor tenets? I, I think there's a, a, a, there's gonna be a short article about, um, the holiday teams this year. Okay. It, you know, we expanded it.
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There are now 12 teams in action- Yes... across the two holidays, six which play on both. You know, so you do have more options than last year. It does look different than last year.
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I think at this point we could already tell Philadelphia was gonna be popular. I'm not sure there's a, there's some danger out there on the holidays, but there's also a lot of lack of clarity on how it's gonna look.
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And so, but, but here's, here's what I would say to our listeners, um- You got 10 seconds... yep. Week nine, you could probably make it to week nine with most of them, but then it gets really tough.
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They become the best pick in a lot of weeks. Poolgenius.com for just the great sort of breakdown from Jason and his crew, and of course, the NFL betting guide 2.0, Jason in there as well. Thank you, sir.
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Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Fezzik Fridays. Whether it's at the sportsbook or anywhere else in the casino, he's always helping us find an edge. It's time for Fezzik Fridays.
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Starring the only back-back winner of the Hilton Super Contest back in the day. He's won many contests since then, but we like to highlight that one. It's Steve Fezzik, everybody.
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Kinder in person than he is on Twitter, @FezzikSports. Follow at your own peril. Stevie, you're here at Circa. You just c- you just came in, and you're like, "This is the best s- this is..."
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Why is Circa the best sportsbook ever? You wanted to say why. It's not the best sportsbook, it's the best casino- Ah... and sportsbook. Yes. And I figured it out. I had an epiphany- Mm-hmm... walking around.
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You know why? Because within two minutes, what can happen is that you can go into the restroom, and the room, and, and the bathroom attendant is super nice and talks to you. All these other corporate places- Yeah...
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like, like, the, all these employees are trained, "Don't, don't interact with w- with the customers," because they're so scared that there could be s- something negative.
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And then two minutes later, you're t- you're run by Derek Stevens, and he's going out of his way to come by and say hi to you. So from the very top- Yes...
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the billionaire to the people, the hard-working people that keep everything running at every level, you are welcomed in this place, and that just does not happen at any other casino. Steve Fezzik, everybody.
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Was that sincere, or are you angling for s- for something over here? You want something in return for that? I don't want anything. Mm-hmm. Okay. No. Steve, well done. Well said.
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I agree with everything you said, by the way. Right. Every, every word of it. By contrast, I mean- Yeah... there were other fat cats that would come on, and they would say, "We care about your families."
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[laughs] "We care about you. We want you to responsibly gamble, especially the gentleman that lost 348 million with us." Right. Right? Who we had on the show. Yes. Yeah. So true.
36:46
Uh, okay, real quick before we launch into things you wanna talk about, you wanted to address, Todd Wishnev was on earlier this week, he was on Wednesday, and part of his, his spiel was about, uh, the concept of, uh, what he described as premature physiculation, which is, which is his way of saying that oftentimes you get super excited about a bet while, while a game's happening, and you go overboard, and you jump in too quickly.
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I, I think Todd is correct here. All right? Wow. That a, a team goes on offense- Yeah... right? And their attack looks fantastic. They're just m- cruising down the field. And I do indeed, I suffer from this.
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I, I should get counseling. I suffer from premature attack elation- Yes... from the offense looking so good. Yeah. You get way- And I need to cal- I need to calm down. You get way too excited. Yes.
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And so Todd, Todd is correct in that manner. Now- I think you can take a pill for this, Steve. I think you'll be okay. S- something. Yeah. Um, I won't get into, like, the hateful tennis comments- [laughs]...
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that Todd has mentioned about not just me- Oh, no. It's me, too... but you as well. Just, he's just making stuff up. It, and, and, and he just, he forgets that just a few years ago, Stevie had seven points- [laughs]...
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Todd had eight. The bear was observing all this. Yes, the bear was there. And then all of a sudden, things changed. [laughs] Yeah. Um, okay.
38:12
Let me ask you w- again, I, I have so many asides before we actually get to the meat of this. Are you and Brad Powers fake fighters, fake, fake, uh, enemies, or are you real enemies? I think it's kinda like WWE, right?
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Yeah. With the wrestling. All right? Where it, it, it, like, fluctuates, right? Where guys become heels, and then they become heroes, and they go back and, and forth.
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And it's like, remember, like, with the mega powers, like the Macho Man, "Oh, yeah," you know, that he, um- What the hell? Like, like, Hulk Hogan comes in the ring and saves him- Ugh... you know?
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And then, it, the, like, and then they bump into each other, and the Macho Man's been hit in the head, and he's, like, confused.
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And The Hulk, The Hulkster puts out his hand, and the Macho Man doesn't know, you know, and they, like, shake hands. Like, like, like, like, wow, this is really happening this year.
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But then, you know, next, next year, the lovely Elizabeth gets injured because Ho- Hogan throws some bad guy into her, and then things are on again. What the, what the, what the hell are you talking about?
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This is, you know what this reminds me of? You know the character Pootie Tang, he used to come on The Chris Rock Show, and he would say things in gibberish twice. And Chris Rock would be like, "Oh, yeah, yeah."
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And then he would say the same thing in gibberish the third time. [laughs] And Chris Rock would be like, "What the hell are you talking about?" One week, Brad Powers and I are buddies.
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[laughs] And the next week, I can't get him to buy the dinner he owes me. Although I do owe him money.
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Uh, uh, good reason, uh, part of this is because as someone, like, no one has been more aggrieved by this man right here than, than me. Like, if anybody should, should be an enemy of Steve Fezzik, it's me.
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You know, the old theft of the baseball plays so many times. Aggregation. Slow play, slow, slow paying me. The, all these things. All I do is make Gilly money. No one should hate Steve more than me.
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And look, here we are. Make him a lot of money. Might take a little while to get paid, but- [laughs]... makes him a lot of money. [laughs] Well, you didn't make me the money, you facilitated it. Yeah. So I guess, okay.
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Uh, let me, uh- And where was Crack Man in your hour of need? I didn't call him. There you go. I could've. I didn't wanna bother him. He, he probably would've done better than I, yeah. All right.
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[laughs] We were just talking, Kelly and I were just talking about NFL week one. You have a week one best bet. Yeah, I, I love Crack Man, by the way. So, uh, let's do a total here, right? Let's go to a divisional game.
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Okay. Uh, let's look at Philadelphia. Boy, offense not gonna be as good without A.J. Brown, and your Washington, whatever they're calling themselves this week, uh- [laughs]...
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their, I've got major concerns about their offense as well. We're gonna go under- Yeah... divisional game, under. Under. For set up under 46 and a half, go, go. We are betting under 46 and a half.
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You see we have Right Angle on yesterday, they did that? Did they? It was a go. It was a go. It was an immediate go. What was their play? Uh, Florida State 31, by the time he finished the sentence, it was 32.
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He laid 30, and that's- Yeah... an example, like, like, with, with, with Right Angle, we love, like, d- doing the, the bottom up and the top down handicapping. Mm-hmm.
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And on Right Angle, they say, "We're, all right, we're gonna tell you the set up, but don't jump the gun." That's right, 'cause they might say cancel. Do not jump the gun until you get confirm and the go. Yeah.
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We jump the gun all the time. [laughs] Like, "Hey, we like that play already. We're going." I, I would imagine 50% of people are jumping the gun when, when they, when they set up.
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They just go ahead and bet it and just hope after that that that's the play.
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Well, what's funny is they'll go three straight cancels, and people will be like, "There's no way this one's a cancel," and then they're like, "Oppo." Like- "We're going opposite."
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[laughs] All right, so under, DC Skins, Philadelphia Eagles, under 46 and a half. That is Sunday in the late window, the afternoon window. Week one, God, not till September 13th.
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You mean to tell me we're still 16 days away from opening Sunday? Oh, we do have a couple games before then. Okay. Um, all right, let's do some season longs in the NFL.
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If you're gonna be here, let's give out some plays, Steve Fezzik. Um, Cleveland Browns season win total, what are you doing with that? So I am aggregating the great Kelly Vedren, who's basically, like, there's,
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in the, in the book, Chad Millman wrote a book, The Odds, and at one point, um, Alan Boston says, "Why isn't everyone driving to the MGM to make this bet?"
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I need to ask you, why isn't everyone driving to Ohio [laughs] or wherever to DraftKings to bet the Cleveland Browns not under five and a half? Gilly, under seven and a half minus 280. Wow.
42:17
Um, at most books, the Browns are under six and a half, uh, minus 200. All right? And a game is worth about 80 cents, but here's the thing, and I won't go into all the boring math, because Todd doesn't like that.
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Under seven and a half minus 280 is way better than under six and a half minus 200. If they played the season 100 times, how many times the Browns gonna win eight or more games? I would say, I don't know, 11? You know?
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I think it's like an- Okay... 89% bet. Under seven and a half, but you gotta lay the juice, minus 280. For Steve's alt. Nope, only if you lose. Only if you... [laughs] That's right, pardon me.
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[laughs] It'd be- Only if you lose. The juice only happens if you lose- [laughs]... I'm told. All right, here's one that we have loved on this show. We've talked about this all, uh, all off-season.
43:02
The gauntlet schedule that is that of the Los Angeles Chargers. You like the under here. Yeah, so there's a lot of repercussions going here. We're gonna go under 10 and a half- Mm-hmm...
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for the Chargers minus 160, and the reason I'm buying these, these games, I'm not playing them under nine and a half, is just mathematically it's gotten very cheap to buy and get the better number.
43:22
This was not the case two years ago, certainly wasn't the case three years ago, but now it is indeed the case. Look at this gauntlet. Seven games, weeks three through nine for the Chargers.
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They have to play home games against Denver, Kansas City, and Houston. Road games against Buffalo, Seattle, Rams, Baltimore. So that's seven teams every bit as good as them.
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So- To the, to the person who, who would say to you, "Hey, well, well, Steve, why shouldn't I wait till after week two to make a Chargers adjusted season win total play then?" No, it's fine.
43:56
They could, they, they- Yeah... they can go ahead and do that. Okay. Um, it, it might actually be optimal, right? Because the Chargers, they're looking at that schedule, they're no dummies, and they're gonna...
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They got two cupcakes. Uh, they play the Raiders I think week two, and obviously they're, they're laying 10 week one.
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So I think the Chargers, you, you better use them weeks one or two in your survivor because- Well, that's what we- I was just gonna ask you. Jason Lisk was here. Obviously they're...
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I mean, the only question is they're, they're going to be the most selected team. The only question is by how much. You still, even though that would not be the optimal strategical play, you would still play them.
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I think it is the optimal strategic play and, and you know, Dr. Bob actually ran the numbers last year.
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Like week one, he made a strong case for, like, the obvious sharp fifth grader play was the optimal play because people are too cool for school. They wanna play the Raiders against Miami. Well, I think if you...
44:47
But it's different if you have multiple entries, right? No. No, because- Not to you? Well, well, the, the, the, this is a myth. I hear all the, all these people, the 100 entries have an advantage.
44:56
Well, now wait a minute. I'm- not one person's mentioned why do they have an advantage? Well, if it's week 20- It's Thanksgiving and Christmas, that's why they have the advantage.
45:04
Well, well, I would, I would argue in the last couple weeks they have the advantage because they know what they're f- if, if they have three entries remaining, they know what their first and their second entries will be.
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Right. All right? But the fact that you, I mean, your, your, your first entry is the most valuable. It's gonna t- that's the Magellan optimal path to circumnavigate the, the Earth.
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And then by the time you're doing your 18th entry, you're trying to get across the world, going through Hudson Bay- I-... you're gonna just, like, die. I've said this a million times. Yes. No, I agree. But I'm, I w-
45:33
I do think, though, that there is, again, you, you say it's, you say it's not the optimal strategy.
45:38
I think some people would disagree, though, with that, which, which is, well, there's always the chance that the Chargers get...
45:43
The, the optimal strategy would be to not be on a team that has 40% of the entries and to hope that that team loses. If, if 80% of the people pick the Chargers, I 100% agree with you. But not at 40%, yeah.
45:54
But at 40%, it's laughable that that would be the case. Yes. Stevie, I...
45:58
Don't make me bring up, uh, you know, I did the thought exercise with Jeff Parls several Thanksgivings ago where I gave him the scenario, "If you knew 99% of the teams were gonna take, um, the Cowboys, would you take the Raiders?"
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He was like, "Oh, I can't do that." No, I, no, I- And you tweeted at the time you were on Parl's side, so stop being so uppity. Well, then I was wrong. Stop being so arrogant, Steve Fezzik. Then I was wrong.
46:17
You ain't right all the time. Uh, no doubt. Coming back, Steve Fezzik. Numbers game. Decent.
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