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Aug 8, 2024
Best of A Numbers Game | August 8, 2024
Best of A Numbers Game | August 8, 2024
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The numbers told the story, they always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander on VSiN. Good Thursday morning to you.
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This is Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV. However you're taking us in, we appreciate it. Gil Alexander, Wyatt Tomchek still doing his thing.
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In for the vacationing Kelly Bidlin. Wyatt Tomchek, the voice of UNLV women's basketball, what's happening? Another, another beautiful day. It's, it's crack day. Crack day. Zach and Crack coming up.
0:32
Zach Cohen, uh, Bill Krackomberger, unscripted of course. Uh, it is Bet Bash week, so we will have Matt Buchalter in today from Plus EV Analytics.
0:40
Uh, it's kind of been an annual tradition for Matt to come over, uh, during Bet Bash to give his alternate season win totals plays in the NFL. We've talked about this for a long time on this show.
0:53
Drew Dintzer actually deserves the credit.
0:54
He was the first person to sort of lock into this, how the alternate season win totals market is probably what you ought to look at first when doing pre-flop bets in the NFL, uh, because the notion that those are priced correctly is probably a fallacy.
1:07
And so Matt has a method of, of arriving at his, which has been quite successful. I think two years ago he was ridiculously successful. Last year, maybe not quite, but, but also successful, as I recall.
1:18
Uh, but it has to do with, uh, coordinators and coaches and whether they're stick from one year to another or they change. We'll get into all that with him.
1:26
Plus I think he has a comment on a couple of awards markets as well.
1:30
Um, and Joe Fortenbaugh from Daily Wager, old friend, which I'm not sure if we have him on Skype, but we won't be able to see if he has a mustache or not, which is the big thing that we always like to see with Jo- with, uh, Joe.
1:39
When I was doing the, the, the photo, you know, you gotta do the photo for somebody who's on the phone. I was like, "Man, I gotta find a good mustache photo," and I just was unable.
1:45
That's, that's a, that's a, that's a very really, really healthy stache right there. Did the, uh, did the White Sox just fire Pedro Grifo, their manager? Did this just happen?
1:53
Pedro Grifo, the, uh, White Sox, uh, manager, has been, uh, let go. Um- Is that almost a good thing for him? It's like, "Oh, I don't have to deal with this anymore." [laughs] I believe you said this all fair.
2:03
You said, "Right as he was getting them rolling." Uh, you know, they're now on a losing streak. They, they- I know. I know... the streak lasted only one game.
2:09
They, uh, they snapped a 21-game, uh, losing streak, which tied the American League record for, uh, for that kind of failure. Uh, did get a win, but then lost again last night. 28 and 89 on the season. Is that good?
2:22
I'm told that's not good. You know, some people have 28 wins by, like, the month of May. Yeah. No, it's true. Very true. Oof. Um, so he has been, uh, relieved of his duties. That's the breaking news.
2:32
All right, so here's the deal. Uh, last night, um, you know, I do my, my tennis handicapping every night, and I usually go men's side then women's side, and every match I take a look at based on the data.
2:46
And on the men's side last night, uh, I didn't like anything. I didn't like anything at all, and then went out to dinner, went to the Legacy Club for Bet Bash last night.
2:55
Um, so I, you know, I was sort of lulled into this thing where I was like, "Yeah, the men's side wasn't, there wasn't anything there," 'cause it's all, by the way, the men are in, uh, the men are in Montreal, and it was just, you know, it's the round where it's, like, a lot of big favorites, but they're all kind of justified.
3:07
And then I went to the ladies' side and I'm like, "Um, are these numbers for real?" At least according to my numbers, there is a lot of opportunity on some of these matches today. And so, um, it's been great.
3:20
Since grass season, again, it's been nothing but positive in terms of the matches. And by the way, can you, can you do this for me, Wyatt?
3:27
Uh, next year, can you just, once grass season starts, could you just send me a reminder not to bet it at all? That's about what, uh, about July, uh, starts?
3:35
Yeah, just, like, five, six weeks starting, you know, late June, early July. I gotcha. Or, or do we, do we need to petition to m- make it turf? Well, no. You can let them have it. Okay.
3:43
I just need to, I just need to roll it back. But, you know, once it's, once it's clay or hard courts, it, it tends to work out well. And so today, look, I could fall flat on my face with these, but I have six plays, and
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many of them are dogs. Um, well, four of them are dogs. One is a gigu- gigundous dog, as, uh, Todd Wishnev would say. Um, let me just get through them. Um, Moyuka Uchijima, I have at plus 261 against Ludmila Samsonova.
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I used to, uh, pronounce it Samsonova, but I'm told it's Samsonova. Um, again, numbers play. Uchijima's hard court data is very good. Samsonova always a, a dicey proposition on the other side.
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So plus 261, um, that's what, again-- And these are all at vsin.com/picks. Every host, every guest, every sport, all of their bets are at vsin.com/picks for s- for subscribers, by the way.
4:39
Uchijima at plus 249, still very playable. I'm doing these from bottom up now. Peyton Stearns plus 264 going up against Maddie Keys.
4:46
Maddie Keys at her best should take down Peyton Stearns, but Maddie Keys has had injuries, and when she comes back from injuries, she tends to, what's the technical term for this, stink.
4:57
So, uh, Peyton Stearns plus 264, flyer on her against Maddie Keys. Marta Kostyuk, I didn't expect this to come through 'cause Elina Svitolina is very good, Elina Svitolina, uh, Gael Monfils' wife.
5:09
Marta Kostyuk plus 151 is a play against Svitolina. Katie Boulter is the one favorite on the board. Got her at minus 132 against Beatriz Haddad Maia. Let me see where Boulter is right now.
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Um, by the way, on Stearns, Stearns is plus 194, so again, pays to be a subscriber 'cause this was plus six- two- plus 264 when I put it in last night. I would still play it at plus 194.
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Don't let it get too much, you know, less than that. Um, in terms of Kostyuk at plus 151, she's plus 138. Don't let that get lower than plus 130. Boulter at minus 132, this is the one I'm worried about.
5:42
Again, CLV so far on all these, you know what that means. Boulter's the exact same price. You could pair at minus 132. And then there's this at the top, and I'm playing this two ways.
5:51
Aryna Sabalenka, favorite to win the tournament, is going up against Yue Yuan, Y-U-E Y-U-A-N. I took Yue Yuan plus the games at plus six and a half games for the match against the great Aryna Sabalenka, minus 125.
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I also couldn't believe And I know what you're thinking. You're like, "Really, Gil? You think she's gonna beat Sabalenka?" Based on the numbers, this ought to not be anywhere close to what it is. She's plus 924. What?
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How is that possible? By the way, looking now, she's plus 838. Still play it. Uh, when you, once you get that high, it's really not as big of a difference as it seems. But those are the six plays.
6:31
So two in the Wei-Yuan, Sabalenka match, both on the games and on the money line.
6:35
Uh, Bolter's the favorite, and then three dogs, Kostyuk, Stearns, Uchijima, not quite the prices they were yesterday, especially in the case of Stearns going up against Maddie Keys, but I'd still play them all, just don't let them fall anymore.
6:46
So six tennis plays all on the ladies' side in Toronto today on the tennis tour.
6:53
Um, baseball, of course, Mets did win last night for the, uh, the August monthly bet, so the Mets get to, uh, 500 on the early stretch of the month. So they're like in 10th place here in the early going.
7:02
Again, way too early. Update on standings, quite frankly, we know that.
7:08
Um, but just in case you, you were wondering and you have bets on these teams, Diamondbacks with their sweep of the Guardians yesterday in a double header, five and one right now in the lead, and the Cubbies are the only other team with five wins.
7:18
They're five and two. So D-backs, who won July, won it outright at Circa, dead heat with the Mets in July at William Hill Caesars. They're off to another great start, five and one.
7:27
I'm telling you, man, Diamondbacks, you should not be surprised if they get back to the World Series. You really should not be. Diamondbacks five and one, Cubs five and two. Uh, Padres, Twins, Red Sox, Giants.
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Giants, adorable, still chugging along, and Royals, all with four wins. And then it goes Brewers, Yankees, and then the Mets right now, three and three in 10th place. Again, early.
7:47
But this gives us entree, Wyatt, just to, when we track these, to just take a glance, and I wanted to bring you into this because
7:54
Will Hill texted something about his Yankees yesterday, which is, "Isn't it amazing that the Yankees," at the moment he texted it, they ha- I think they had the best record in, in baseball, but after the end of the night, still, as bad as...
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So I'm just gonna go through these, and you tell me which is the most meshugganah thing in your mind when you think about what the perception is of baseball right now and what the actual standings is.
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So the Yankees, despite their massive swoon in June and July, mid-June all throughout the month of July, despite their massive swoon, and despite the Orioles' inability to make any,
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you know, space between themselves and that Yankees swoon to take advantage of that, the Orioles and the Yankees are only a half game behind the Phillies for the best record in Major League Baseball, despite all of that.
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All right, so that's choice number one. I'm gonna ask you, what's the, which is the most meshugganah of all this?
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The fact that the Yankees and Orioles are still only a half game behind the Phillies for the best record in the entire Major League Baseball. Uh, choice number two, this one's a little out there.
8:54
Think about what you think about the Los Angeles Angels and the Oakland A's. They suck, right? Both those teams.
9:01
The Angels are only, in quotes, "only nine games out of first place in the AL West," and the Athletics are only 12 out.
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I know that's still, like, a long way, but I think most people think of those teams as so bad that they'd be, like, 25 out. Be like the White Sox. The Angels are nine games out of first place.
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I'm saying, i- in an AL West where the Astros now lead by a half game, by the way. All right, that's choice number two.
9:25
Choice number three is that your Braves, sorry about this, are now only a half game into the playoff picture. They're the third wild card spot. They're only a half game ahead of the Mets. That's choice number three.
9:36
Uh, choice number four. You know the Dodgers, the big, bad Dodgers? Mm-hmm. They only have three game leads over both the Diamondbacks and the Padres here on August 8th. Three game leads. That's it.
9:48
And your final choice, in terms of which is the most meshugganah, the Guardians, for as great as they were early in the season, we had them in March, April, we had them in May,
9:56
only a three and a half and four game lead respectively over the Twins, and the Bobby Witt-led Royals. And let me just say this again before you answer this about Bobby Witt. Since June 30th, he is hitting 464.
10:13
That's a batting average. 464, 58 hits, 10 homers, 31 RBIs, 36 runs scored. By the way, he hit two homers last night. But you still can't bet him for MVP because Aaron Judge exists.
10:27
What's the m- of all those things, what to you is the most startling?
10:30
Well, the reason why the Mets are within half a game is 'cause the home plate umpire for the Braves and Brewers games, he needs to be shot to the moon. He was awful last night. But nonetheless, I think it's the Dodgers.
10:39
I, for, for as great as we th- uh, you know, LA started this year, I know injuries have really ha- hampered them, but they spent so much money on Ohtani, and they're only three games up on the Diamondbacks and the Padres.
10:51
Like, wow, that's, that is very surprising to me. Like, the, the Padres, for how bad they were at the beginning of the year, were like, well, uh, it was just kind of that one-year run.
10:59
Like, this NL West race is very interesting. A lot of injuries. Obviously, Freddie Freeman was absent for a bit because of his son's ailment. Um, but I, I might agree with you on that.
11:10
I think that would surprise the casual fan the most if they just popped up now.
11:14
Diamondbacks and Padres just three games behind the Dodgers in the, uh, NL West, and all of this to say, as I have been all week, it's the most wide open baseball
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season in early August that I think I can remember, where there is not a single team, not a single team in baseball, has a win percentage of 600, and it is a free-for-all, and you ought to be betting accordingly with futures.
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Normally, I wouldn't say, "Hey, go crazy on futures." Go crazy on futures. Take some swings. We'll come back. Zach Cohen next with all of his plays.
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BSN, the sports betting network Back on a Numbers Game, live from Bar Canada here at the D in downtown Las Vegas. Gil Alexander, Wyatt Tomchek in for Kelly Bidlin. Uh, always a pleasure to have this gentleman on with us.
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He, uh... I, I keep misspeaking, by the way. Wyatt, you're right, I was saying, I was calling it Daily Wager, but it was Daily Wager when it was here in Las Vegas.
12:20
Uh, now that they're back at the mothership, uh, they went to ESPN Bet Live to match the sportsbook ESPN Bet. Uh, he's our old buddy.
12:27
Not only does he, does he work on ESPN Bet Live, you can see him on SportsCenter all the time. He's always joking with the anchors.
12:34
Some of them, you know, some of them probably like him better than others when they do that, I'll be honest with you. We'll get his reaction to that in a moment, maybe.
12:38
But he's also part of the Carlin versus Joe show on ESPN Radio. That's Carlin versus Joe. It's very antagonistic. It's our buddy Joe Fortenbaugh, everybody, courtesy of the Progressive guest line. What's happening, Joe?
12:51
Great intro, great welcome. That's exactly how you do it. You lay out all the great stuff.
12:56
You make the guest sound really big so that inevitably when I flop during this segment, they'll still have a positive memory- [laughs]... of a great introduction. Well- Great to be with you guys. How the hell are you?
13:04
Uh, we're great, man, but what I left out is, what's the deal with the mustache, man? What do you do, what are you doing with that? Okay, so it doesn't look good. I'm gonna be clear about that, and I know that.
13:15
And for some reason, despite the fact that I do this every year, uh, people just feel the need to tell me how bad it looks. Yeah, I get it. Mustaches don't look good.
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I grow it when I'm on vacation because it would be very weird to grow out a mustache while you're appearing on TV every day. It would just look lazy and sloppy, and then all of a sudden one day it's like, "Oh.
13:36
Oh, that's what you were doing. Oh, okay." Um, I tie it to my Survivor pick. So I go on vacation in the summer, I don't shave at all.
13:43
One year a few years ago, I looked at myself in the mirror, I go, "This could be funny. My kids have never seen me with a mustache."
13:48
So I just kind of left it, and everyone laughed, and I figured, all right, let's ride this out a little bit. And then I just kind of turned it into a bit. So the mustache stays as long as my Survivor pick lasts. Wow.
13:59
Good news for people who hate the mustache- Okay... I tend to get my butt kicked out of those contests relatively quick. Two years ago, I got eliminated [laughs] in week one with the Niners against the Bears.
14:08
Last year, I was out in, like, week four. So i- if you don't like it, don't worry, it won't be around very long. No, I like that.
14:14
So Fortenbaugh in on the joke, and then without even having to say anything, we will know if he's still alive in Survivor or not. I like that. It's a good strategy. There you go. Okay. Exactly. All right.
14:23
Let's get to, uh, your favorite pre-season, your favorite pre-flop NFL play that you have made, sir. What do you like? I've got a few. Um, I'm with the public on the Bears over the eight and a half with the win total.
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And I, I don't care. I know a lot of, "Oh, the public bets. The public, it is big trouble." I, I could not care less. I love everything about this team this year. And it's not that I'm drooling over Caleb Williams.
14:46
I'm really not. I think the handicap gets them to nine wins, um, with Williams being an average to above average quarterback.
14:53
I don't think this team is going to need a 5,000-yard passer to have nine wins of success this year. They won seven last year closing strong, five and three over their last eight. Schedule this year is a lot easier.
15:04
It's like top four in terms of ease, so you should be able to navigate that and find some favorable spots on that schedule, right? Your defense is gonna be a top five unit in my opinion.
15:14
I don't think a lot of people realize how loaded they are, especially after they brought Montez Sweat over last year. And then if you're a rookie quarterback in Caleb Williams, you're stepping into a great situation.
15:23
I mean, how many rookie quarterbacks come out and their wide receiving unit is DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, and Rome Odunze, with DeAndre Swift added in the backfield? Now, there are problems.
15:33
Number one, is Matt Eberflus a great head coach? We don't know. We do know there's a rookie quarterback, obviously, and that offensive line still has some question marks. But in terms of getting to eight wins, I'm there.
15:44
Denver to be the worst team in the NFL, six to one, I played that. I'd also go under the five and a half wins. Uh, getting rid of Russell Wilson was, like, the big win for them. Congratulations.
15:54
But because you have such a big dead cap charge, you weren't able to bring anyone in to help you out. You lost Lloyd Cushenberry on the, uh, offensive line. You lost Simmons at safety, Jerry Jeudy at wide receiver.
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You didn't really add anyone. The schedule's not easy.
16:07
Uh, Bo Nix at quarterback, that could work out at some point, but he doesn't have a lot of weapons, and I don't know if he's that great to begin with from a pro prospect perspective.
16:16
So I think Denver's in a world of trouble. So those are two off the top that I could throw at you, but I mean, obviously, we could talk all day long about this. Well, no, I wa- I wanna react to both of those.
16:25
One, I'm with you on the whole Denver Broncos thing, and, uh, those who listen to this show know that I find Sean Payton to be a reprehensible human being. Um, before that- [laughs]...
16:34
about the Bears, you know, you, you asked rhetorically, and I'm sure it was rhetorical, about, you know, what quarterback comes into as great of a situation as, as this, uh, in terms of Caleb Williams coming into the Bears, you know, which is a stacked offense, uh, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, plus Rome Odunze, you know, at, at all.
16:51
Um, the answer, I think there is actually an answer. Someone was talking about this and it, it was, uh, I wanna give Aaron Schatz credit for this, uh, at FTN.
16:59
Dante Culpepper with Randy Moss and Cris Carter is the only answer anybody could come up with. Oh, hell yeah. That's the only one, though. Hell yeah. That's a great one, too. Yeah. So- That's a...
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And that goes back, like, 20 years, but that's fantastic. Yeah, so and, and by the way, I don't think Culpepper started immediately either. I think it took a while for him to get in.
17:18
So this really in terms of, like, right off the bat is probably unique in that respect. Um- Yeah...
17:25
I know we never ask this question because we're too cool sc- too cool for school when we're doing betting content to ask this, but, like, ultimately, I think the most interesting thing about coming into this season is as much analysis as any of us can do, and last year, Lord knows, like, I mean, some of the analytics sites, the, the, the Ravens and the Niners were historically epic, like ranked as one of, as two of the great teams of all time, and yet Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid still exist.
17:50
So when I ask you, um, when you do all this analysis and if I ask you, "Okay, well, who do you think probably rises to the top when all is said and done?"
17:58
Does that linger in the back of your mind, like, "God, I, I'm gonna say teams, but then I know that the looming specter of Mahomes is always there, so why would I say anybody else?" You know what?
18:09
To be honest, it's one of the reasons why I don't make a lot of, um, like, to-win bets, future bets on the AFC or the Super Bowl. Like, I, I like season win totals. I like yes/no playoffs.
18:21
I'll, I'll be in on a lot of player props.
18:23
But with the Chiefs looming there, like, I've tried to get cute in the past where it's like, "Well, they're coming off the Super Bowl, you know, they're a little overvalued," and I'll go deep into the numbers and try to give some great arguments, and then they'll just go win the whole thing, and you sit there and you're like, "Yeah, that was pretty obvious."
18:39
But then you get it in your head where it's like, if you pick them- Right... well, you're picking the favorite. How often does that work out?
18:45
So you do these mental gymnastics, and I just got to the point where I was like, "You know what? I got plenty to gamble on here. I don't know if I necessarily even need to involve this."
18:53
So if I might find an AFC shot that, that, and I haven't found it this year, but that offers, like, a really good price that I could see making some noise and gives me a good hedge-out opportunity, sure.
19:04
But no, and I could tell you, like, I'm not gonna play a team like the Ravens that, that, they, they, they've made it clear who they are.
19:11
There are certain teams I'm not getting on, and then with the Chiefs, I'm not going against them, so you're basically left with your hands in the air, and it's like, "You know what? I'll just play something else," right?
19:19
I'm not gonna force it. You're right, it is in my head. Yeah. I mean, and how could it not be for all of us, right?
19:25
So it's this, it's this sort of, you know, a joker in a game of War, that it's out there and it trumps all.
19:31
Uh, did you, did you have any opinions on any awards markets, Joe, or do you w- usually wait to play any of those? The, um, eh, eh, MVP award market, I've got a play on Matthew Stafford at 30 to 1. Wow.
19:43
Um, I, I, I'm, I'm not as high on it as I was. I still like the bet, but the thing is, it goes hand-in-hand with how I feel about the Niners. I played the Niners under 11 and a half wins.
19:53
I have a small position on the Niners to make the playoffs. I think there's a big regression coming for San Francisco. Now, it's, and, and it's nothing to do with Aiyuk.
20:01
A lot of people will, will, will conflate those two. "Oh, so if they lose Aiyuk, you don't like them?" No, no, no, no, no. It's not that.
20:06
I mean, that hurts, obviously, and it, and it's mostly based on this, couple of key factors. Number one, they were a really healthy team last year, all right?
20:15
Like, they went to the Super Bowl, and a lot of times the team loses the Super Bowl, and there's this narrative about, oh, that team is cursed. The Super Bowl loser, they do so poorly the next year.
20:24
It's not like it's a curse. There's pretty good reasoning as to why it happens, and one of them's health.
20:28
If you're gonna make a deep run in the playoffs and you're gonna make the Super Bowl, chances are you were a healthy team. If you're healthy in the NFL, chances are next year that's gonna regress a little bit.
20:37
Just like if you're the Ravens two years ago, where you're rattled by injuries, the following year you're probably gonna be a healthier team. It's just regression to the mean. The Niners were really healthy last year.
20:46
McCaffrey's been healthy each of the last two seasons. The two years before that, he was very injury-plagued, right? Deebo tends to get dinged up. Trent Williams is 36 at left tackle. George Kittle's missed time before.
20:56
Dre Greenlaw is not playing linebacker this year, at least not early in the season, because of the injury in the Super Bowl, right? Nick Bosa's gotten dinged up.
21:03
You look at them, eh, if you trade Aiyuk, and then you have an injury here and an injury there, suddenly things can get away from you.
21:10
Scheduling-wise, they're gonna play eight opponents that have a rest advantage against them. So I'm down on the Niners this year, which in turn has me high on the Rams.
21:17
Now, they've, they're going through a lot of injuries on their own on the offensive line right now, so there's a little bit of pause, but I played the Rams to win the division.
21:24
I like the Rams to make a little bit of a run.
21:26
They addressed some of their concerns in the off-season, and I, I, I can't help but think that if somehow this is Matthew Stafford's last year in the NFL, he's one of those all-time good guys. People like the story.
21:39
People like the family. You know, the wife battling back from cancer, all that stuff.
21:43
I'm not trying to bring that into the handicap, but if they find out he's gonna retire after the year, there's the good guy narrative around that if he's able to win enough games and put up some numbers.
21:52
So Stafford right there is one of the plays I'm making in terms of the MVP market. Joe, 20 seconds. SportsCenter anchor that loves when you go off-script and joke with them the most, and the one that wants to kill you.
22:02
Who are they? Uh, Randy and Gary without question love it when you go off-script. Al Duncan as well. In terms of the ones that wanna kill you, I, I, that's one I'd have to think about because- [laughs]...
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most of them are very, very fluid, and they like that. They encourage it. So, plus I'm not dumb enough to give you a name and burn myself. Damn it. I thought I had him. Uh, Joe, Joe Fortenbaugh- Yeah...
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from ESPN's BetLive, and Carlin versus Joe on ESPN Radio. Joe, more energy next time, okay? I'll try my best, Gil. Thank you so much for having me. Joe Fortenbaugh, @joefortenbaugh. Very subdued, very subdued.
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Crack is next on Unscripted on a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network. The numbers told the story. They always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics.
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This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN. Hour number two on the Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network, vsin.com. Game Plus. Got your home guy, uh, Matt Bulcalter on there from, uh, Toronto.
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I Heart Radio, YouTube TV, however you're taking us in, we appreciate it. Thank you, Game Plus, by the way. We love Canada.
23:03
Game Plus goes down, uh, through New York as well, so a lot of folks in New York City see us on, uh, Game Plus. Uh, Wyatt Tomchek in for the vacationing Kelly Bidlin. Kelly will be back next week.
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We get tweets at bettingthebook. Always appreciate the, uh, feedback from folks. Uh, "Best listeners in the game." This is from Russell Smith.
23:21
"Played your tennis straight and took a shot," [laughs] oh, no, he parlayed a few of these, "took a shot with, uh, Stearns, Bolter, and Uchijima." Or does that say 100? That can't be 120 to 1.
23:34
Maybe he means 12 to one on that. I think he means 12 to one. To win, uh, oh, no, then he added, well, okay, maybe it is, uh, maybe it is 120 to 1, 'cause he added Vlad, Vladimir Guerrero Jr. to hit a home run today.
23:45
He has, uh, four lifetime versus Dean Kramer. How dare you fade the great Dean Kramer, who's on the Leaflet?
23:51
Uh, GV at New Jersey/New York, "Braves only being up a half, uh, game above the Mets," as you were talking about, "and as a result barely in the playoffs," is up there in terms of, uh, which of those standing scenarios is the nuttiest to you.
24:05
Uh, "As someone who watches the Phillies every night, yeah, can't believe this team is still top of MLB in win percentage. You wouldn't think that after the last month."
24:13
That's what I was trying to get at, uh, GV, which is I, I think a lot of that, if you glance at the MLB standings right now, the baseball standings, there's so much there that it's like, wow, that team is still there, or that team is that close to the other, because it is a complete log jam.
24:27
It is just a scrum of teams this year, both American League and National League, and again, we ought to be betting accordingly. Uh, this is from, let's see, do, do, do, Teddy Rack.
24:38
"I add three years to my l- uh, to my Vsain subscription, and the next day I get Joe Fortenbaugh on ANG." Um, I don't know what that means. Uh, let's see.
24:51
Ch- oh, Chris Heath, uh, "Truly getting old with a Bill Romanowski phone dial b- "Oh, did Fortenbaugh hit his phone with a cheap- Yeah, it- He did it, yeah... kind of startled us. I thought you heard it, too.
25:00
I did at one point, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, Joe, Joe used to be famous for the quick dial tone at the end of the interview. He w- that was his thing.
25:06
Like, if you, you'd sign up Joe, he would try to get the dial tone in there- [laughs]... before you got off. That was his gig. Uh, ladies and gentlemen, it's Thursday. It's 11:00 AM Eastern, 8:00 AM Pacific.
25:15
You know what that means. Unscripted with the Crack Man, Bill Krackenberger. [upbeat music] Billy. Hey. What's happening?
25:32
Bet Bash week, thank you for making time for me. Come on, man. [laughs] This guy. Uh, you know, everybody's kind enough. I, I'm super grateful every Bet Bash week. Aren't, people are so nice. People are so nice.
25:42
When we were at the South Point, they used to roll down there. Oh, yeah. This is much easier, 'cause it's just down the street, right? Yes. Yep. So I'm, I'm super grateful, but, but come on, man.
25:50
You think we're gonna bump into you for Bet Bash? [laughs] Yes. [laughs] Yes, he says. Um- Yes, I do think you're gonna do it. I ran into Gil yesterday.
25:56
He was like, "I don't know," it was like blocked out of his car or something. They wouldn't let him leave or something. What happened? So, so give me the real e- explanation.
26:03
I was, I was walking through, um, I went over to, uh, Circa- Yeah... to put, uh, my, my buddy was gonna put some, uh, entries in for the contest and, uh, on this proxy. And, um, you were...
26:15
I, I thought they didn't let you in. No, no, no. But they, they didn't, they wouldn't let you out. Well, it's neither. It's a- it's actually my fault. Okay. So I ha- I had a meeting at Circa- Okay... after the show.
26:23
All right. So I go over there, and I realize I haven't been at Circa in so long, which is just down the street, that my card, we have a secret bat cave parking lot. Okay.
26:31
My card was deactivated, 'cause I hadn't been there in so long. Oh, oh, okay. So, so on the way out, uh, Bill Ady, Miles, Gwyn, they were all kind enough.
26:40
They're like, "Oh, we'll react- we'll, do your thing, we'll reactivate your car." But me, stupid me, I forgot that there was one more door I had to go through.
26:47
So I gave them my card before I had to get through that final door, and so security was like, "Hey, we'll just have to figure out when you get your card back." So I was like there for, and you and Alan Boston roll up.
26:56
Yeah. And, uh, by the way, one of those two people recognized me, and I'll give you a guess as to who the one that d- wasn't was. But you and Alan Boston roll up.
27:04
[laughs] And I'm just sitting there, I'm like, "Yeah, just trying to get to my car." But it was my fault. Yeah, no, I took Alan, uh, to breakfast that- Yeah. There's a, there's a place he, he showed me.
27:13
This guy used to cook for Elvis, and he has- Oh, wow... a restaurant called Norman's Diner on Durango. It's like Durango and Spring Mountain area. But, um, it's great.
27:21
He has the great- the, the best eggs benedict in the world. He's known for it, too. Is the guy who used to cook for Elvis still there? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Norm. Yeah. Norm is still there. Norm is still there.
27:29
And I like to eat anyone named Norm. Like, if, if you're like, uh, Norm, uh, Abe- Abe... I, yeah, I like to eat, yeah. You're a big, you're a big fan of- I'm, I'm, yeah, Moishe. [laughs] I'm good. Moishe.
27:38
[laughs] Yeah, I'm, I'm eating there. Yeah. Moishe. [laughs] Um, n- no, I... Oh, by the way, there's a pla- there's a place over there called, it's on S- uh, it's called Abel's Bagels, by the way. Oh, Abel's Bagels.
27:48
You ever heard of it? Yes, oh. Oh my God. Abel's Bagels. They, they are some of the, they're the b- some of the best bagels I, I've had in, you know, definitely in the town. How could you go wrong? Yeah.
27:56
No, I just, uh, great, great f- But you know, peop- I came in here this morning, I don't know what's gonna, gonna, what you're gonna roll up on.
28:03
These guys had- [laughs] These guys had Vsain sh- did you see the guys that were here? Yeah. They have Vsain T-shirts on. Vsain T-shirts, yeah. What good guys. One was from, um, Ohio.
28:11
I used to fly into Columbus, Ohio all the time. He's from Columbus, Ohio. I get, people are surprised to hear that. Like, my dad was b- my dad was born on a farm. My dad was a farmer. Mm-hmm.
28:20
Um, not him, but his pa- his parents, my grandparents.
28:23
And, um, they were country people, so they were on the Southeastern Ohio, which some- a place that I thought nobody ever heard of, Meigs County, like Pomeroy on the river, um, and, um, you know where else?
28:32
Uh, my, all my family works in Athens at Ohio University, and where Burrow was from, that area. Mm-hmm. Joe Burrow. Um, so they're all proud of him, of course. That's a big thing for...
28:42
And football was everything, by the way. When I was, used to go to Ohio for the summers, I used to go for the county fairs and the state fair, truck pull, tractor pull, um, some entertainment.
28:50
But football games on Saturday, high school football games, my uncles and their chil- that was everything to them. Like, everything was based around those football games. Yeah.
28:59
So football was so big, so that's why Burrow's a big deal to my cousins and stuff. And he, he's a big deal anyway. He's a great player, so, um, but it's nice to see the people c- uh, so nice and- Oh... it's humbling.
29:10
It's like, wow, I'm just a- It's, it's awesome. Yeah. I was at, uh, Circa last night at the, uh, Legacy Club, um, which is- How, how was that? Which is where Bet Bash sort of ends every night. Okay.
29:19
At, at, uh, Legacy Club upstairs. And yeah, it's just great to see everybody, great to, uh, to talk to everybody.
29:25
F- you know, people that you have seen recently, people that you haven't, and then people who come up to you from, you know, seven, eight years ago, they're like, "Yeah." Right. "It'll be great to see you again."
29:33
And you're like, "I, I don't remember." Uh, but you tr- y- you know, you try to be nice as you can be. But, but also, but also nice, right? Yeah. Real nice, real nice people. Yep.
29:42
Um, you know, everyone's been asking me things, man, about, uh, I, I haven't... You were off last week, so I wasn't, wasn't here last week. Yes, sir.
29:49
So of course, people have been asking me, I, my number one thing here is about the, um, the DK tax and the Caesars guy. Yes. The Caesars guy with the 500,000 that said he won half a million dollars. Oh, yeah.
30:01
300 and some thousand. Yes. I reached out. Let's, let's start with him. I haven't talked about that yet, yeah. I, I reached out to him. Okay. I, I, I texted him. So, so explain to people what you're talking about. Yeah.
30:08
There's a guy on Twitter who posted a video. Yeah. He claims to have won $500,000 on a bet. Yeah. I mean, it was a Celtics bet, was it? Uh, uh, Celtics-Future. Yeah. Close to that anyway.
30:20
And- Look like, like 400,000 or something like that... and he's being escorted out of a casino. Yeah. Okay. He's escorted out of a casino, so- I reached out to him 'cause he's like, "Man, I want my money.
30:29
I want my, my, my money." And he- trust me, lots of it. Millions of... It got over a million views. People have know about this. Yeah. And as much as we are against Caesars right now for- Yeah...
30:39
me for throwing me out for having a pulse for bleeding red- Yeah [laughs]... and you for the different things that hap- oh, no.
30:44
Well, mine was the, uh, my latest one was the NBA draft when they switched the odds right in front of me. Yeah. No. Yeah They, they, they're, they're... Listen- Yeah... let me just be blunt.
30:52
I would love to throw them under a bus and go after them. In this situation, as of right now, I can't, and I'm, I'm always fair to both. Yes. I even said, "Hi," I, I, I'm, I do multiples.
31:04
I want to know if you don't want me to repeat it, I will not say it. Uh, not a fan of Caesars currently because they limited me because of previous wins, and he, he said, "What's up, brother?" Yeah.
31:14
And then he never got back to me. There's much more to this story. Uh-huh. There's much more to this story. Uh, supposedly, he said on, on, uh, maybe some of our listeners can, uh, correspond here.
31:27
Supposedly, he said, "Well, my bookie bet it for me," and that's, like, the worst thing you could say is your bookie- Sure... someone else bet it for you.
31:33
Proxy betting, um, here in the, here in, uh, Los Vegas would be legal if you'd go through the proper ch- proper channels, but there, it's not legal the way it went down in, um, North Carolina or South Carolina?
31:46
North Car- North Carolina. So, uh, they're not giving him his, his winnings. But by the way, they're not giving him his post-up. So if you're posting up, you know, I, I don't know, uh, what the post-up was, 3, 400,000?
32:01
Did not give him the post-up money or the winnings, so that, that's, that's the big story here- Wow...
32:05
is, uh, they're just, uh, doing a full-scale investigation, and that's probably just a way of trying to rob the guy's post-up money, um, using some loopholes or, or law things.
32:15
I mean, honestly, it's not worth the, the guy... By the way, by the way, Caesars used it on their socials. "Oh, big winner!" Yeah. "One Celtics thing," it was all over their social. So they used it to advertise with.
32:27
Honestly, even though the guy didn't get back to me, even though there's more to the story, pay the guy his money. It, it, look, look what it's done... It's done more damage to you guys.
32:36
It's making me bring up old tweets. Like last night, I brought up an old tweet of your minus 120 on juice for NFL future, the future games. Look ahead weeks, minus 120. Nobody does that.
32:47
Go, you can bet at DraftKings 110, you can bet at Westgate, I can keep on going, minus 110. Caesars charges 120. Real nice of you.
32:55
So in other words, what I'm saying is they tre- they, they, they treat you like a sucker in so many different ways. I probably wouldn't have retweeted that last night if I didn't know about this situation.
33:07
I probably wouldn't have re- retweeted that and, oh, I o- only got... Here, I didn't even, I haven't even checked. I said, "Everyone else 110, Caesars this F-ing NFL." So I'm sorry, that's what I put. Um,
33:17
last night, 62,000 views, 263 likes. You wouldn't have got that bad press. Just pa- and that's only me, little me. I don't really get to call myself little much, but little me. So, uh, but, but listen, think about that.
33:29
So now that's just me. I've seen multiple other people going after you guys. I mean, is it worth that much money to you that you want to steal the guy's money? Well, you, you know what? I will, I will sort of answer.
33:39
I, I think none of these scenarios are good for the books in the end, and in the end, I don't think they care. That's interesting. I, I- I don't think Caesars cares. The management, they just don't care.
33:48
They know they get all the volume anyway. That's right. That's right. Very good point. It's the line from the Bronx Tale, "Nobody cares." [laughs] Nobody cares. No, nobody cares. No, very good line.
33:55
And, and listen, I'm not saying that- I, I mean- I'm not fully taking the, the, the guy's side because whoever bet the ticket has to claim the ticket. Yeah. Give your ID. You bet it, you claim the ticket.
34:06
I mean, and the, and the so- and the part about the post-up, obviously, you, you, you know, give him back his post-up when this is all, you know, figured out. But
34:15
I, yeah, I just w- I had a spider sense about the video, too, I guess, is what I'm saying. But I was like, "I don't know. There's, there's gotta be a story here that we're not hearing." Um- There i- there is. Yeah.
34:24
There is. And obviously there is. We'll talk about the DK tax, uh, which I'm sure Bill has a word or two to say about. That's next. Numbers Game, VSiN, the sports betting network.
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35:34
By the way, the Steve Mackina thing I was talking about at vsin.com, last year, 49 games, right? Total, 23 NFL preseason, uh, 2023 NFL preseason. Uh, majority handle on point spreads went 14, 30...
35:48
14 and 30 against the spread. The majority number of bets on point spreads went 17 and 32 against the spread. This is when you look at the ticket counts, um, and the handle on, on splits.
36:00
Majority handle on totals went 19 and 28. Majority number of bets on totals went 18 and 29. So if you can, uh, fade the public, last year was super-duper, uh, profitable for you.
36:12
We'll see if that continues into this year. You, uh, you just gave an example off air about, uh, something you gave out- Yes... on the Raiders. Well, Las Vegas Raiders, I took plus one and a half.
36:22
One of the sharpest guys back east, um, put that out there. So plus one and a half, and then, uh, uh, went to three on, on one shot.
36:30
Matter of fact, I gotta give credit to the Westgate, but if I bet the Westgate something, they move four and a half points on first move. You're never gonna see that any other season, only in preseason football.
36:39
I took one and a half, they went right to minus three. I mean, they, they, they just know it's gonna move, so they're, they're unprecedented. They're very smart, uh, over there th- to do that.
36:47
But so now they go to, uh... And then some- then a, then a, I think it's Right Angle Sports give it out minus three. Now it goes to six. So now the line goes to six, and then Fezzik comes in with the other side.
37:00
Of course he does. [laughs] Yeah. The other side of the game. And, uh, right now it's settled, it's settled at four, but it just goes to show you how we both can win. Mm-hmm.
37:08
If the game lands, you know, four or five or, or even on the six or, or three, I mean, you know, both sides can win, um. And, and, and it's something you said before the break that made me think of that.
37:19
Someone said that fading the public, is that what you said? That's what we were just talking about. Fading, fading the public though- Yeah... um, how, uh... You could talk about that as far as anything goes, though.
37:30
Uh, big fades of big syndicate groups when the, the line moves three, four, five points. Um, sometimes both sides are right, you know? So, um- What, what, what have you played that's still relatively available? Nothing.
37:43
Anything? Nothing. Nothing. It's all gone? No. It's all gone. Yeah. Maybe you guy, uh... The last bet I made this morning was Cardinals under game 130, Arizona, and, and that's... You can still get 37s.
37:55
Right here, right here you can. I, I found a 37 and a half at Westgate, but you could still, uh, get 37, uh, on the total on the under. But you gotta be careful sometimes.
38:03
You know, your years previous, you'd never see this. Kansas City, 40 and a half. San Fran game, 39 and a half, 39. Green Bay, 39 and a half. Next game, 39, 39. You'd never see those, those numbers preseason.
38:16
The numbers were 33. Yeah. 30. Yeah. 29 and a half, 27 and a half. But last year, the books got their hand- got their, uh, their butt handed to them, uh, having those low numbers, and Steve Fezzik was one of them. Oh.
38:29
Over on, on like bl- everything. Well, there's, there's still, like, five or six games heading into this week one of preseason, which are at 34 and 35, right? Somewhere in that pocket. And I never- Tonight's game.
38:39
Tonight, tonight's game- Yeah... is one of them. Yeah. Uh, so I never, you know, we never talk about this any other time of year, but these three team... What people were doing was these three team 10-point, uh, teasers.
38:48
Yeah. Which, by the way, used to be priced at minus 120. Now they're kind of, they're, they're gouging you on these. But you tease those down- Yeah...
38:56
and you just defy these teams to go lower than 20-point- I, I gotta be blunt, Gil. Who's taking that? Who's booking that? Well, that's the thing. So now- [laughs] Who- So it's, it's funny you say that- Yeah...
39:05
because ever since saying that, th- they're, they've disappeared in most spots now. Oh, oh. And the only ones that still have them, like FanDuel has it, right? But it's, like, minus 146. Yeah. Yeah.
39:16
So that's the problem. But I, I'll just tell you guys since you brought it up. Yeah. Teasers are strong as morphine- Yeah... in this time of the year. Yeah. If you can lay seven-point teaser- Yep...
39:26
even you, even though you're laying more juice than I'm used to, when I start, when I first started betting teasers, seven points was 115. I had a couple shops 120. Uh, and, and six-point teasers were always even.
39:37
I mean, I had five shops that were always even. So now they have, they have decided that, you know, people were doing these standard long teasers and, and winning. But, um,
39:47
if you can do teasers preseason football, if your shop takes it, and I say your shop because sometimes people that bet with a local guy or something, if they'll ta- if they're taking teasers, boy, hoo-hoo, they could be strong, man, if you, if you're betting some teasers, um.
40:01
Yeah. Uh, you know, plus two and a half to plus nine and a half, plus one to plus eight.
40:05
Uh, and, and you wanna make sure you're playing with a place that teasers, if you ha- if you get a push, you actually don't, don't lose your money. Yes. So, you know, places, i- if the other side of the game loses by 40,
40:18
I, I, I don't care. You can't have a one-team teaser. I know there's bookmakers in this town that'll fight me on that. You cannot have a one-team teaser.
40:27
I don't care if the other side lost by 40, the other, the other part, the other leg of it. If I am taking plus eight and it's eight, it's over and done, you get a refund of your money.
40:36
So, and, and a lot of the, you know, the big sites do that. The, the Dra- the DraftKings, the Fanduels, the, even William Hill, we'll give Caesars cr- credit for something. Uh, they, they, you know, at least they did.
40:44
Less, less rules changed there, but even with your, with your guys, request that with your local guys. Well, the, the interesting quirk on that. Well, first of all, a couple things.
40:52
One, a lot of these, a lot of the offshores that y- that would offer the three team 10-pointers, when they would make it minus 120, they would say, "If there's a tie, you lose," right? They'd throw that in. Yes.
41:03
You have to be very careful about that. Very good.
41:05
But what you were talking about is the, there's two teamers where, again, what Bill is saying is if one side pushes and the other loses, is this the scenario you're talking about? Yeah. You can't have a one-team teaser.
41:17
You can't have a one-team teaser. So I know like MGM, for instance, you get your money back. There are, I would imagine, a colossal percentage of bettors with- would not even think to go back and get their refund.
41:28
They just say, "Oh, I lost." Yes. Right? I lost one leg and I pushed the other. Dumpster diving. You'll see it. That's, that's right. You'll see dumpster diving. Yeah.
41:34
You'll see dumpster di- dumpster diving when the team ties sometimes 'cause you'll bet the early game, and the early game gets blown out by 20. At nighttime, the, the primetime game, it pushed. And people don't know.
41:47
They throw their tickets away. They don't really realize what happens. Why are you laughing?
41:50
[laughs] I always say it's 'cause my old, 'cause my old buddy Jay Rood, who used to be the vice president of race and sports at MGM, when he would talk about this- Right...
41:56
right, he would get so angry about it from his perspective. I'm like, "Jay, can't be a one." He goes, "I know, but it still pisses me off," he used to say. Oh, okay. Yeah. Why, why, why?
42:04
They, they, they did it- They always give your money back. I'll give your money back. Yeah. They do. They, because they're cur- 'cause as you say, you cannot have a one-team teaser.
42:10
Listen, there's guys in this town, we're sitting in a book. Yeah. I love, I, I love, you know, we, we know, you know we love, uh, Derek and the Circa. Yep.
42:17
There's books in this town like Circa don't give their money back. I don't get it. I don't get it. I, I, I, I don't get it. I, I, you know, maybe the bookmaker can explain.
42:24
You probably can explain it 'cause I probably know more than, than, than some of the guys in risk. And I'm not saying Circa, I'm saying in general, these guys that work in risk nationwide.
42:32
They, they don't even under- You can't have a one-team teaser. No. So, uh, I'll, I'm gonna, I'll, I'll fight to the d- the day I die for that. That, that's for the customer, trying to give the customer their money back.
42:41
Everyone else does. Closing seconds of the, uh, first quarter of the first, uh, basketball semifinal in the Olympics. Germany up seven on France. They have kind of led the whole first frame here.
42:53
Uh, as many as, uh, led by as, as many as double digits earlier in the, uh, in the quarter. 25-18 right now, Germany, 12.9 seconds left, as France tries to come back from the early hole that they find themselves in.
43:06
You bet a lot of Olympics, or did you bet anything at all? I didn't bet, I really didn't bet too much Olympics. Yeah. A couple prop bets. Yeah. Nothing, nothing really, uh, nothing really cr- you bet the Olympic?
43:13
Did you bet some Olympics stuff? Not so much. Drew Dincic comes on and gives us a lot of Olympic bets. This, some of his. I feel if you bet anything against the United States- [laughs]...
43:21
it's, like, it's, like, so just non-American, you know? Um- Zach had, uh, Wyatt Zach had the bet, uh, taking the points against the USA tonight, and I, uh, in my head I thought the same. I was like, "Should I make my
43:33
m- mark it down Zach is anti-American joke?" But I decided not to this time, but I feel the same way. You, you reserve that for Paul Carr. I reserve that for Paul Carr.
43:39
Thanks to our buddy, uh, Marcus here, bringing us in, uh, golf tickets Augusta, bringing us in hats- Yes...
43:44
T-shirts, and, uh, yeah, he's the best, that's the best place to go to get, uh, your Augusta tickets, uh, every year. He's, matter of fact, he, he, he has more rooms, everything in his packages.
43:53
Uh, so, uh, golfticketsaugusta.com. So now you're gonna do a, uh, the, tomorrow you're moderating, am I right? I am. Is that the right word? I am moderating. I believe that is the right word.
44:04
I'll just get out of the way. Right. 'Cause it's a, it's a panel with Billy Walters on it- How cool... the greatest sports bettor of them all. How cool.
44:10
Um, but it's about, you know, my first question, honestly, is going to be, this is, by the way, it's about, you know, we have a former, again, a former Pennsylvania, uh, regulator that's on there. Oh, nice.
44:21
Uh, a former, um, government official from West Virginia who was making gaming law. Nice. Well, not a government official, but yeah- Okay... I guess a government official. And, uh, and also Alex Kane from Sports Trade.
44:32
Yeah. But my first, my first question is going to be, you know, Billy, you've done it all. Why did you find it important enough to be here for this? Wow, very nice.
44:39
And I think, and I think what it is, is he, he's, he's as mad as anybody. Like there should- Sure... be a voice for the bettor- That's good... in all of this. And you know, I, I've known Billy 25 years. Yeah.
44:47
And the, I always said it before we were allowed to talk, like everyone was nervous, you can't talk. Now everyone's, you know, I guess it's, everything's fine. We got offshore guys going, it doesn't matter.
44:56
So, uh, Billy has always been such a generous soul to so many people, not just charitable to charities, so many people. I, I, I have nothing bad to say. Billy's always been a great guy. Yeah.
45:07
You know, so it's just, uh- Well, people are there for Billy more than anybody. Yeah. Yep, yep. So, uh, I, I am honored that Spanky would have me do that. That's tomorrow- Cool... after the show. Billy, thank you.
45:16
Thank you, guys. Bill Krackenberger. Have a good week. Best Bets is next. Enjoy, from VSIN, the Sports Betting Network.
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A Numbers Game | September 16, 2026 | Hour 3
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A Numbers Game | September 16, 2026 | Hour 2
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A Numbers Game | September 16, 2026 | Hour 1
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Best of A Numbers Game | September 15, 2026
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A Numbers Game | September 15, 2026 | Hour 3
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A Numbers Game | September 15, 2026 | Hour 2
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A Numbers Game | September 15, 2026 | Hour 1
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Best of A Numbers Game | September 11, 2026
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