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Feb 5, 2025
Best of A Numbers Game | February 5, 2025
Best of A Numbers Game | February 5, 2025
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The numbers told the story. They always do. He's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a Numbers Game with Gil Alexander on VSiN. Good Wednesday morning to you.
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There's a Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network, VSiN.com, Game Plus, iHeartRadio, YouTube TV, and of course, Sirius XM channel 158. It's Gil Alexander. How you doing? It's Kelly Billin to my left. Heyyo.
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Producer number nine, so much more than a producer. What's happening, man? Oh, nothing much, nothing much. Roughly 100 hours-ish, I did the math, a little more than that, away from Super Bowl 59, Super Bowl LIX.
0:37
You excited? Is the excitement building? Has the excitement peaked? Is the excitement waning? Uh, it's the Super Bowl. I'm always gonna be excited, but- I for- I was gonna say, take your time, Kelly...
0:46
but there's, there's two bi- there's two big events- [laughs]... I think we have before that, Gil. Um- For us. NBA trade deadline, which is heating up big time. I was like, what? The Transylvania Open? Yeah.
0:56
[laughs] Like, wait, the finals? Kevin, Kevin Durant back to the Warriors. Okay. Can we- You know, we're gonna have to talk about that. Is that a- And then we, awards finally tomorrow, right? Awards tomorrow.
1:04
We might make money finally tomorrow. Awards tomorrow, baby. What a positive attitude, right? We might make money tomorrow. Oh, we're definitely making money- [laughs]...
1:13
'cause Jaden Daniels is winning Offensive Rookie of the Year, so cash that- Yeah... off the bat. The only question is, do we, do, do I make Offensive Rookie of the Year plus MVP money? Yeah.
1:23
In which case, it will be a, a banner day. Blue ribbon day is what I'm looking for. It, for me, it would be MVP and comeback. That's- I'm still kicking myself. What was that?
1:30
Was that a Thursday at the D when you and Crack both walked, walked five feet behind you and made that bet, and I was like, "I should probably join those guys," and I never did. Which one? The Jaden Daniels one? Yeah.
1:39
Uh, it was at, it was the last seven, plus 750 in town, and Lamar Jackson was 12 to one when I ha- when I bet him at a, at a different time. But yes, the Jaden Daniels thing was you just sleeping. Me sleeping. Yeah.
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I remember watching you two, and I'm like, "I should probably do that same thing." Nope, nope. [laughs] Did Crack bet it, too? I didn't know Crack- Pretty sure he did, yeah. Oh, really? I didn't know that.
1:59
Um, we got a lot of guests today. Jonathan Vontobel live from New Orleans, site of Super Bowl 59. He will join us to talk Super Bowl 59, of course, and a little NBA as well. Maybe pick his brain about KD and Curry.
2:10
If that happens, is that a thing? Does it move the needle? That's the question. Jim Root, James Patrick Root from 3 Man Weave, talk a little college hoops. Let's do a little, uh, list of college basketball teams.
2:21
Get his opinion on can they win it all or not.
2:25
Uh, Joe Fortenbaugh from ESPN, our old buddy Joe, uh, from his own radio show, and of course, uh, ESPN Bet, the sh- the television show, and many, many SportsCenter appearances- Oh...
2:37
where he is beloved by seemingly all. Shining star over there these days. Shining star for you to see what your life will truly be, Joe Fortenbaugh.
2:45
Hey, Kelly's got some waste management, Phoenix Open Golf, uh, golf picks coming up as well.
2:50
Jason Weingarten from Under a Cloud of Smoke, and our old Ready, Set, Bet, uh, co-host friend who used to be our prime time action co-host, Matt Brown. Is he in studio with us? He is in studio- Oh, yes...
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ladies and gentlemen. All of his thoughts on Super Bowl 59. I have, uh, dipped into the prop market. I will give you those, uh, bets that I made last night here momentarily.
3:08
I just wanna say this because I cannot stop talking about Luka, as so many people- Me either, yeah... uh, are in that boat.
3:14
And I just, oh, there's one thing, and again, all the, e- everything that I said Monday still applies, which is I don't care how you feel about this.
3:21
The fact that the Dallas Mavericks and, and Nico Harrison did not shop this around, right, and only went to the Lakers for this, I don't care where you stand on this trade, and I, I am one of the people who stands on it like this is unprecedented, obviously.
3:32
But the fact that he didn't shop it around is, is the one detail of this that remains above all the most mind-boggling thing going, regardless of if you feel as, oh, he's often too out of shape, um, he, he doesn't play any defense, or whatever your knock is.
3:49
Uh, he wasn't gonna sign the Super Max. Whatever it is, you still shop this guy around to more teams.
3:53
However, I did wanna point this one thing out because every once in a while, a new detail trickles in on this, and I feel like Brian Windhorst is pr- Brian Windhorst to me is probably the best analyst in any sport going.
4:05
Agree or disagree? Is there anyone better- Ooh... in any sport? And the reason I say this because I- He's way up there. I, I remember- I feel like he's unfiltered in a way that I just, I can't wait to hear what he says.
4:15
I completely agree from that standpoint. Yeah, yes. And then- The unfiltered part is big... what other, what other barometer is there then? I cannot wait to hear what this guy has to say.
4:23
He, he made a little, he made a, a little aside in something he was talking about. He was like, "Yeah, you know what I, what I said after game three of those NBA finals?" And I was like, "Oh yeah, what did you say?"
4:32
Um, so this is just to r- just to give him some props and, and because I think it's a fascinating detail that we sort of glossed over at the time because if you remember in the NBA finals, the Celtics, uh, they didn't sweep the Mavericks, but it was a gentleman's sweep.
4:46
They won it four games to one, but it was one of those gentleman sweeps also where it was three to nothing, and so it was kind of Katie bar the door at that point 'cause nobody comes back from three to nothing in the NBA, in the history of the NBA.
4:56
But after that game three, game three, which the Celtics obviously, you know, put the nail in the coffin, not completely, but it was, for all intents and purposes, done.
5:05
It was 93 to 90 Celtics with just over four minutes in game three. Yeah. And, and the Mavericks fighting for their playoff lives and their, and their finals lives at this point. And Luka
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took a foul, fell down, took a foul, and this is Brian Windhorst's reaction to SVP's questioning after the game about this sequence. He has a hole on the court. The Celtics are attacking him.
5:29
They are ahead in this series because they have attacked him defensively, and you've got a situation here where Luka's complaining about the officiating. They have begged him. They have talked with him.
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They have pleaded with him. He is costing his team because of how he treats the officials. He's a brilliant player. He does so many things well. They are here because of how he did.
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His performance in this game is unacceptable, and the reason why the Mavericks are not gonna win.
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He's gotta get over this, and the fact that he came out after the game and blamed the officials showed me he's nowhere close yet.
5:57
So maybe over the summer somebody will get to him because nobody with the Mavericks or anybody else in his life has, and that's where the Mavericks are at this point.
6:04
They're never gonna get to this tunnel with a trophy if he doesn't improve those pax- as-aspects of his game.
6:09
And here we are just over a half a calendar year later, and all of this has manifested in the most dramatic way. Yeah. I just thought that was, that, that was a Hall of Fame-...
6:18
moment now in retrospect So did you h- uh, did you happen to hear Brian Windhorst talking about this exact moment the other day? I didn't in detail. Okay I just heard him allude to it, so I found this. Yeah.
6:27
So very interesting, 'cause it was, it was right on the w- when the news came out, right, Luka and everybody's, "Why? W- how could Dallas possibly do this," right?
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And, and Brian Windhorst said, he, he brought up that, that, [laughs] that, uh, interview, right? And said, basically said he didn't know h- uh, uh, how it was gonna go over with the Dallas brass, right?
6:44
He was gonna sit in press conferences- Oh, I did hear this part... after he just called out- Yes...
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basically how, how Luka, uh, treat, treats himself, performs, and how the coaches don't hold him to a higher standard, yada, yada, yada, right?
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And he said he went, sat in every press conference, talked to all the Dallas Mavericks brass the next, within the next 24 hours. None of them- Nobody said a word... none of them said a word. A word.
7:06
Oh, man, that's says it all. Which, which means it's b- Yeah... yeah, of course it's b- and it's been a thing.
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And, like, that, and that's why he was so angry about it, because it's, we know how great of a player he can be. A- and it's b- it's, it's a thing. It's absolutely a thing, his conditioning.
7:19
The soap opera that is the National Basketball Association. Anyway, shout-out to Brian Windhorst, 'cause I thought that was awesome.
7:24
I- But, but like we've said all week, s- give me the h- give me the upside on Luka the rest of his career. Sorry. Absolutely. Give me the upside. Hey, he's 25. You don't think he can get in shape eventually?
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May- maybe he can't, but, but he sure can. I feel like that was my first angry, "I'm sorry," in a while. [laughs] Uh, I, I made a couple prop bets. It's really two prop bets in one, but it's two separate bets.
7:44
Um, you know- I like this... here's the thing.
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You're, you're just, you're, for two weeks you're just staring at these things, and no matter how hard, [laughs] how hard you try after, we're all like, "Nope, I'm just gonna be a better b- you know, disciplined on this," finally at some point you're like, "All right, I can't take it anymore."
7:59
Uh, Kareem Hunt, Chiefs' first touchdown score and the overall first touchdown score. I bet them both. The Chiefs' first touchdown score at plus 425, the first overall touchdown score in Super Bowl LIX at nine to one.
8:15
Uh, you can shop these around, but these are pretty much static numbers everywhere. I d- I looked at many places, and these were the numbers at multiple places. Here's the, uh, here's the reasoning.
8:25
Now, obviously this correlates with my game thought, which is I'm on the Chiefs. I'm not gonna get in front of the Patrick Mahomes train here.
8:32
And now I, I obviously don't know who's gonna get the ball first in the first half. That's obviously where the advantage begins, right?
8:40
Um, which is kinda why I went with both of these, just in case the Chiefs didn't get the football. But with the Chiefs, when you think about the Eagles, you think about the, the, the distribution of first touchdowns.
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I mean, what is it? It's Saquon, it's Jalen Hurts, it's A.J. Brown, it's DeVonta, maybe it's the tight end. Yeah. Right? Maybe it's Goddard.
8:59
With the Chiefs this year in 17 football games, right, 15 and two, uh, pl- plus a couple playoff games, by the way. Oh, this is gonna be good. [laughs] Plus a couple playoff games, so that's what?
9:08
That's 19 football games. I'll do it from the bottom up. Here's who's had one first touchdown, Mahomes, Juju, Watson, Gray, Kelce.
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Here's who's had two first touchdowns, D-Hop, Rashee Rice, who's no longer with us, of course. I mean, from an injury standpoint. Oh, yeah.
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[laughs] Didn't wanna make it, didn't wanna make it more dramatic than it actually is. Pardon me. Got a little ahead of myself. Um, second most, Xavier Worthy, four of the Chiefs' first touchdown scores- Really?...
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this year. And number one is Kareem Hunt with five of them. Now, did that alone make me wanna bet this? No.
9:47
However, on a team that is, that, that you feel like, and is also backed up by the, those numbers right there, that you feel like the distribution is far wider than, say, that of the Eagles when it comes to who could possibly score the first touchdown, Kareem Hunt still, if you step back, even if you didn't know those numbers, feels like the most likely, especially if you g- obviously, if you get to the one-yard line, he's the guy most likely to get the football.
10:09
Maybe, maybe even if they get to the three or four-yard line, he's the most likely to get a, a short pass. I don't know.
10:14
I'm just saying of all those players, he feels to me like the, the best shot going, and he is reflected in the numbers as the shortest shot on the Chiefs.
10:23
But to me, plus 425 as the Chiefs' first touchdown score and nine to one as the first overall score, those are numbers that are better than I would've expected. By the way, Worthy not much longer- Yeah...
10:35
in either category. Yeah. In case you were wondering, uh, Xavier Worthy, who had four first touchdowns this year. So I really like the Hunt, the, the Hunt, uh, plays here.
10:44
The other way I kinda look at it, and I know it's not the same thing because, um, with obviously a baseball game and a tennis match it's a binary choice, right?
10:51
Somebody wins, somebody loses, and this is, you know, multi, you know, multi-selection here. But if I'm just thinking about this in my tennis terms, like how many $4 dogs do I play a year? Uh, I play maybe a handful.
11:04
We win a couple, right? Navarro beating Sabalenka last year. I think Putintseva beaten Goff last year. For those who, uh- Yeah... tennis hardos who follow, they may remember.
11:12
Baseball, I mean, a $4 dog, I think of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays taking on Randy Johnson and the Yankees.
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So if I put it in those terms, just those are four to ones, and then I think about Kareem Hunt, Chiefs' first touchdown score at plus 425, my brain goes to, and I know it's not mathematically the same thing, but my brain goes to, "Yeah, I'll take that.
11:31
That seems way more likely." So you are, you're on the same page then with me, uh, a- as well as Pacheco. It, it's, it's Hunt over Pacheco, even in those short yardage- For me it is... situations. Me too. For me it is.
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Yeah, me too. Yeah. Uh, we'll come back. JVT from New Orleans, site of Super Bowl LIX. It's a numbers game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
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We get tweets of beating the book real quick. Uh, this is from, uh, let's see here. Do, do, do, do. ND Money, "New Orleans is my favorite place to eat.
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Three to add to the list, crawfish étouffée, boudin, and a muffuletta." Oh, getting hungry. Now you're just showing off.
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Off in the Dark, "Highlight so far today, Kelly Midlin saying, 'I can finally start my career,' and waiting for Gil to respond." [laughs] Manny Davison, "Kelly is to EdgeBoost as the Big Hurt is to Nugenics."
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[laughs] Tony Shank, "Can you hear Kelly doing the advertising saying, 'Wait, there's more?'" Um, DGen, Southern Gen also just clarified that Richard Hamm was someone from his childhood.
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Of course, we all know who that is. Scola, uh, "Thanks for referencing the old offshore memories. Recalling now the red Money Gram phone sending to- [laughs]...
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Juan Augusto, Juan Augusto Diaz, Raul Ruiz, and Facundo Blanco. I think I once a bet on Facundo Blanco in a clay court tennis match." They never wanted my money, Gil. I know. It, it took so long to get it too.
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And the look on the cashier's face as I would pay for the transaction, he said. And Matthew Mayberry, "No mentioning of Yukon, St. John's, or Marquette with Jim?
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I don't think anyone's gonna be happy to see them in their bracket." Matthew, we just ran out of time. I could have gone more teams, but I had to group them in at the end, so my apologies.
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Uh, ladies and gentlemen, he is, uh, he is a stalwart at ESPN. Uh, we've known him from so far back in the day.
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He's the, uh, he's the co-host of Carlin versus Joe, Monday through Friday, noon to thir- uh, noon to 3:00 Eastern. That's the ESPN radio show that he does Monday through Friday.
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But he's also, of course, on ESPN Bet Live. He's always on SportsCenter.
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And most importantly, above all of that, and Tim Lawson, Megapod historian, confirmed this for us yesterday, he is still, after all this time, the most frequent guest in Megapod history. It's Joe Fortenbaugh, everybody.
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How you doing, Joe? Wow, I did not realize I still held that distinction. Yes. And I haven't even been able to get on with you. I didn't get to come on this past year because of my stupid schedule.
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And then I think two years ago, I found a way to wedge on, but that's incredible. I, I gotta keep that going, keep people at bay on that one. It's good to be on with you guys. You specifically, Gil.
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Kel- Kelly, not so much. I can ignore him. [laughs] Kelly, Kelly- That's a joke. Kelly- That's a joke. [laughs] Everybody calm down. Yeah, Kelly invited Joe on the show.
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Joe was crickets, and then I called him and he's like, "Sure, I'd love to come on." [laughs] Great to hear from you, Gil. He just doesn't have any respect for you. Yeah. No respect at all. It's okay, Joe. We'll listen.
15:07
Hey, Joe, before we get to- I have, I have, uh, tra- traveled down to New Orleans and, like, there's been some radio stuff, and I'm trying to get the schedule organized.
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And you think if you get to a place like ESPN, you become a big shot, and, like, you have all these people doing this stuff for you. No, it's none of that.
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You're still handling all of it, which is okay, but, like, there's a lot of stuff with people that I don't know as well. And then, like, you guys, I've known for a long time.
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So, like, Kelly reaches out, I see the text, I'm like, "All right, I can't respond to this right now. I got a million things going on, but I gotta get back to this."
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And then, of course, Gil, like, "That's not good enough." Next day, "Hey, man, didn't respond." [laughs] "Need to have you on." Let me just...
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I wanna just- Before we bring you on, I'm gonna read a bunch of tweets to everybody- [laughs]... and make you listen through it, and then I'm gonna bring you on. That's right. That's right. Absolutely.
15:51
That was for Kelly, Joe. [laughs] That was a message back to you. I have two questions before we get to your thoughts on Super Bowl LIX, and this is just- Yeah...
15:56
inside baseball questions, 'cause I'm curious, and maybe some others are. Um, how do you know what your SportsCenter assignments are on a daily basis? I know you know your radio show.
16:07
Maybe you have a ESPN bet that you know is happening in a static, uh, you know, time slot. But w- with SportsCenter, how are you...
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how is it communicated to you that you need y- that they need you on, on a specific version of that?
16:21
You get your schedule for the month, and you're listed, uh, for the show no matter what, and then SportsCenter decides whether or not they're going to use you. So for example- Hmm...
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like, now that football season's about to end, ESPN Bet Live is gonna go back to a regular schedule. We're gonna go Monday through Friday.
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We'll be on 6:00 to 7:00 PM Eastern on ESPN 2, and during that time, I'll be listed for the 6:00 PM SportsCenter probably all five of those days if I'm not traveling to New York for the stuff I do in the morning down there on Fridays.
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But they'll list it, and then I'll hear from them sometime in the middle of the day, "Hey, we'd like to have you on tonight, and then here are the topics we were thinking." So that's generally how that goes. Wow.
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I don't know what my, what my guess was, but it wasn't that as, as the answer to that. A monthly schedule, and then they decide after that. Um, and- Yeah... and okay, and here's the last one.
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It's just you and me talking, and Kelly. Nobody else is listening. Uh, the sports- Sure...
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the SportsCenter anchor that you feel enjoys your shtick the most, and more importantly, the one who's probably like, "Yeah, I wish the kid would shut up a little bit." Oh, that's good. That's really good.
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Um, anytime you work with Randy and Gary, you know you've got a big opportunity there to make people laugh.
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'Cause those two are, are very much ready to go off script, to run long, to do a complete pivot, which, like, if you enjoy doing this for a living, those are two great guys to work with.
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Because, like, right there, you can just make chaos on, on TV, and some of the best advice you ever get is, like, that chaos is the stuff that people, people react to, right?
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If we're just doing the same thing bland every day, it's gonna be tough. So those two are great. And then to be honest, Elle Duncan might be the best trash talker you could ever come across.
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So if you are ready to go blow for blow with her, like, that's... But you're stepping into that arena. Like, you can't come weak, 'cause she will shut you down. She's a fast thinker, and she, she'll just unload.
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So, like, those people are very interesting. I'm not gonna answer the second part. [laughs] The second part where you want me to burn someone- Yeah... savvy move by you, but I got a career to think about here, buddy.
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Oh, that's true. That's a good point. Probably should point that out. By the way, Randy and Gary's last names, just in case that someone doesn't know, is? Are? Oh, Randy Scott, Gary Striewski. There you go.
18:30
Randy Scott, Gary Striewski. I, you know what? I will answer your question about someone who probably doesn't like the shtick. She loves listening to me on radio.
18:36
She always talks about it 'cause she's listening on the drive up.
18:39
But, um, when I was picking Ohio State in the National Championship game, Hannah Storm, not a fan at all because she's an, she's a Notre Dame grad, she's a huge Notre Dame fan, and it felt like I was on with her every time Notre Dame was, was getting set for a playoff game, and I was picking against Notre Dame the whole way.
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So, like, she just got so sick of me coming on and telling the America all the reasons why Notre Dame would win. I'd imagine by the end she was probably like, "All right, enough of this guy.
19:05
We don't even know who this D-lister is." And I can't blame her for thinking that. Hannah Storm, not a fan of Joe Fortenbaugh, write that down.
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[laughs] All right, a Super Bowl 59- She's wonderful, but I- I'd have to imagine she's had enough of me. Are you betting a side or the total here? Let's start there before props.
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I- I'm leaning to Philadelphia, and I know a lot of people are gonna say, "Well, he's the Philadelphia guy. Of course he's gonna take the Eagles." Two years ago I had a big bet on the Chiefs, all right?
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So let's, let's dis- disband that right now. Um, I can separate the fandom, and I have no problem doing that. I have no problem betting against my teams either, so let's be clear there.
19:38
I haven't done anything with Philly yet. It might be one of those, I do like Philly in the first half. It might be one of those first... That might be the angle. But the thing is,
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like, they're, they're built to win this game. Like, I, I, I'm looking at Kansas City and, and as great as Mahomes is and all the stuff everyone throws out there, Philly should... Philly's got so many paths to victory.
19:58
They can run the ball against this Kansas City defense. And if somehow Spags puts together some elite game plan where they're gonna shut down Barkley, you can throw on these guys.
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Kansas City deploys man coverage at the fifth highest rate in the NFL. Fifth highest. That's where Jalen Hurts thrives. Jalen Hurts is number three in the NFL in raw QBR against man coverage.
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He's ahead of Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. 15 touchdowns, two interceptions. A.J. Brown is your pre-eminent man beater. So, like, A.J.
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Bra- Brown props, over 69 and a half receiving yards, I'm in. Seven to one for him to go over 125 receiving yards, I'm in. I sprinkled a little on his MVP. I always like to get a long shot in there. He was 30 to one.
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I played a little on that as well.
20:40
So when you look at this, like, I know everyone thinks run-heavy script for Philly and that's what they wanna do, but if they have to open it up in the passing game, I think they can have a lot of success here.
20:49
Total homer picks, by the way. Just wanna get that out of the way. Yeah, of course. Despite what you said. Despite what you said. Um, did, did we get all the props in there?
20:56
Did you, you incorporated everything there in that little diatribe? I got... Listen, listen, I got one of my favorites. I haven't been talking about it yet.
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I just finalized it and I got down pretty much as, as much as I was willing to bet on this, so I c- I'm gonna start talking about it publicly. I'm gonna give this one to you guys first, and this isn't any s- shtick.
21:11
I just kind of finished it this morning 'cause I was talking to someone from ESPN who had been watching the tape. It's a two-part prop. Trent McDuffie, the Chiefs',
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uh, cornerback, to record the first sack in the game is 50 to one. Ooh. To record a sack in the game, just one sack in the game, is 30 to one. Now, you look at McDuffie and you think he's a cornerback.
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Of course those are gonna be long shot prices. He's got, like, four and a half sacks in his career. Two of them came in the regular season against Philadelphia last year. Spags wants to get pressure on Jalen Hurts.
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We all know about it. You guys have probably been talking about it. Hurts versus pressure versus Hurts without, it's two different quarterbacks. Against pressure, he's miserable.
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You gotta bring pressure, but you gotta br- be creative. In that game against Philly, I think it was a Monday nighter last year at Arrowhead, he was blitzing McDuffie like crazy, and McDuffie had two sacks in that game.
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So he's 50 to one to record the first sack here, and 30 to one to record a sack in general. Those are two bets I like very much. I love it. Nice job, uh, closing out.
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Joe, on my only note, once again, little more energy next time, okay? I'm sure your career will take off after that. I'll do the best I can. I'm down here in New Orleans.
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Maybe I'll find some party favors, come back all with you guys go nuts. Joe Fortenbaugh, everybody, from ESPN, @JoeFortenbaugh on the old Twitter machine, courtesy of Progressive Guest Line. Thank you, Joe, as always.
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Always appreciate the feedback. Nash, last name Nash, "Good call on Hannah Storm. She definitely seems like a beard for Chris Felica back, back today."
23:18
[laughs] Jamie Leyva, or Jaime Leyva, "Can we get a breakdown on the Transylvania Open by Kelly in a Count von Count voice?" Oh, that's a good idea. Have a fantastic day, gentlemen. Thank you very much.
23:29
Uh, Michael Knight was looking for the sack prop that Fortenbaugh mentioned. Which book? Great question. The McDuffie sack prop. We gotta figure out where that is. Oh, yeah. I did, uh... Yeah, he said 30, 50 to one.
23:39
I did, uh, look up Jason's Hopkins bets over at FanDuel. Over one and a half receptions, plus 126. Two plus touchdowns at 100 to one. Just a couple more here.
23:49
Kevin Ryan, "Gil, Kelly's love for Gary Woodland week in and week out may exceed yours for Joe Jackson Gibbs." I know, he's really into Woodland. Fair. And then Rick Olier, "Whoa, whoa, whoa.
23:59
Did Kelly Blade Biddle in just insult Captain Ron? I'll have you know that he saved a family from Cuba. How dare you?" [laughs] That's a good one. A, a great, terrible movie of the '90s.
24:09
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm extremely uncomfortable because Kelly is sitting awfully close to me. He's too close to me.
24:13
And the reason for this is usually, uh, when we have a guest here on set, Kelly, uh, saunters, 'cause that's what he does, he saunters back behind the glass. No. But not today- No...
24:21
because it's Matt Brown, and it's a Prime Time Action reunion. Matt Brown, the current host, co-host with Mike Somich, that is, of Ready, Set, Bet here on the weekends at VSiN. Matt Brown joins us here in studio.
24:31
What's happening, buddy? How you guys doing? You had... Following Joe Fortenbaugh... guy that we all go way back with Big time...
24:38
Joe Fortenbaugh used to be on the desk with me and, and one Dave Ferri doing a fantasy sports show- Oh, I remember it well... back in the day. Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's just, it's, we are full circle.
24:47
It's small, it's small world. You've both come so far. Yeah. [laughs] Well, so, so, some further than others. You guys didn't even know I still worked here until I walked in the studio just a second ago. Yes, we did.
24:57
But- Yes, we did. Yeah, man. Um, okay, well, I don't know if you know this, Matt, but, uh, there's a s- there's a game on Sunday. Yes, yes. Uh, Super Bowl LIX. Fun one. And, um, I actually don't know the answer to this.
25:08
Mm-hmm. Which, what side are you on here? So I might have one of the very few two and a halves in the entire world. Where did you get a two and a half?
25:18
So, and so I sent this to Kelly- Yeah, I didn't believe him either... as proof, because I'm like, "Everyone's gonna listen to this, and they're gonna go, 'This guy's lying.'" Rogue here, Boyd went rogue here in Vegas.
25:30
So Bo- Boyd usually just uses FanDuel lines. Right. You know? So I'm sitting there, and I'm kinda like just, I'm on, I'm on on Sunday when all the lines are populating, right? Yeah.
25:40
Like, 'cause I'm, I'm here with, with Somich. Ready to set bet. Check it out. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. I'm sure [laughs] there you go.
25:46
We'll be here during the game, 'cause so if you don't wanna watch the game- That's right... you can come, you can come watch us.
25:50
Um, so we'll, uh, we're, we're sitting here, you know, scrolling through, scrolling through, scrolling through. I'm like, I'm like, "This, what is Boyd doing?"
25:56
Boyd went rogue and put up their own number for, like, 10, 12 minutes. And so- The Chiefs were favored by two and a half points for two- Two and a half. So I have a plus two, a Eagles plus two and a half. Wow.
26:06
Okay, so I didn't actually ask you this question, 'cause I just assumed FanDuel had a two and a half. No, no, no. So FanDuel never had that? No. Boyd- Wow. All right... posted their own number for about 10, 12 minutes.
26:17
How much did they allow you to put on that? So that there is, there is also that, because as, uh, anyone who has, has bet Boyd here, uh, they actually have hours on their sportsbook. [laughs] They do, yes.
26:28
Sending to the trading team. [laughs] So when, when you plug in the first number, it goes, "Sending to the trading desk," and then it was like, "Nah, we're not gonna do that," and whatever. And so it, it whittled down.
26:38
I was able to do it twice to get, I mean, moderate. Yeah. I mean, not, not, not what you would normally bet on a game, because I, it was, it was after hours. Yeah.
26:45
And, uh, the trading team apparently is- Have either of you two run into the same problem I have where I try to guess where, like, it's always chopped in half. Whatever you try to bet, they're like- Oh...
26:53
"We'll take half of it." It's so annoying. So I'm like, "Well, let me bet double." Oh, no, it's, it's worse than that.
26:58
Like MGM, I've had the experience where I, let's say I wanna put a dime on a, on a anything, a tennis match or whatever. It, it, it varies.
27:05
Sometimes I literally have to put seven different bets in to get to the dime- Mm-hmm... but it lets me get to the dime. Mm-hmm. And it doesn't necessarily move the number either. Mm-hmm.
27:15
So it's all just algorithmic nonsense. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. None of it does.
27:20
No, and, and I'm wondering if this was, like, the rare time where there actually was someone back there looking, 'cause they, it seems like they put up their own number for whatever re- I don't know what was going on, but yeah, it was gone.
27:29
So I actually have a- Okay... two and a half in the account. Let's just pretend that it was still one and a half. I would still be playing the Eagles. I, I have a pretty strong opinion on the Eagles in this game.
27:37
I think that there is a pretty good advantage in this game for the Eagles run offense versus the Chiefs run defense.
27:45
If you look and you go in, and you look over the second half of the season, EPA per play allowed on, from the rush side of things, rush success rate allowed, this Chiefs team's in the bottom half of the league when it comes to that.
27:54
Now in comes the best offensive line in the NFL with the best running back in the NFL, the guy who has...
28:01
So here's the thing, you get Saquon Barkley, and then you also get an offensive line that has him number one in the league in yards before contact, right?
28:08
So you have this guy who's awesome anyway, and he's not getting touched before any other running back in the NFL, right? It's like the perfect combination.
28:17
He also seems to do this thing, I don't know if you've noticed this about him. Mm.
28:19
They actually pointed it out during the Skins game also, where he has gotten this timing down to a science with the Eagles offensive line, where he almost, it's, like, not quite the Le'Veon Bell.
28:30
Remember Le'Veon Bell- Yeah. Oh... got to the point where he would just- He would kinda dance around... he would be like, "Okay." Yeah, he would just do a little jig real quick, and then, yeah, and then take off.
28:36
"Let me, let me sit back here for four seconds before I..." [laughs] It's not quite that, but, like, Saquon, as soon, he does that, like, hop step to the side- Mm... and then bounces.
28:44
I've n- I've never quite seen it that, like, he seems to know- Yeah... exactly when to do it in, in a way that's not common. It's not like Le'Veon Bell, because it, it's, it's like he's waiting for- Right...
28:53
it's like which offensive lineman's gonna get the biggest push, and I'm gonna go through that hole almost. Right. That's what it almost feels like. That's right. Yeah.
28:59
He's, he's, he knows where, where he's supposed to go, but he ha- he understands when to cut off that v- as great as anybody I've ever seen.
29:07
Man, not to de- derail the conversation, but anyone that has not been arrested, has anyone derailed their career more than Le'Veon Bell did? Oh. I mean, like that, I mean, in the h- in the height of his powers.
29:17
In the non-arrest category. [laughs] Yeah, like, like- Yes... without getting arrested, like, without like, you know, going to jail or committing a crime- Yo... h- did anyone do more harm to the...
29:25
Like, in the height of his power, he's like, "Yeah, I'm just not gonna play anymore." I'm gonna, I'm gonna not play for a year. I'm just gonna not play. See how this works out. Keep that money. I don't need it.
29:31
Bold decision, guy. Yeah, it was just what... But, yeah, I, Gil, you're exactly right.
29:34
I mean, just, it's, it's crazy, 'cause one of the things you hear, these scouts again, we always talk about, not a scout, not a talent evaluator, but, like, it was that Le'Ve- uh, you know, Saquon's vision was just above average.
29:45
Mm. It wasn't like that he had great vision or whatever it was. Well, I mean, on, maybe it was the Giants offensive line.
29:50
Maybe it was, maybe it was just the scheme there, but I, whatever it was, but it does seem like something has changed since he's gotten to Philadelphia. Um, I mean this at, completely respectfully- Mm...
29:59
because I'm, again, I'm on the Chiefs side. Mm.
30:01
But I also fully admit, like, I, I keep asking the question, yes, but if I saw, if o- if I, you know, if one team blows out the other, is it more likely to be the Chiefs blowing out the Eagles or vice versa?
30:11
I concede it would probably be the Eagles blowing out the Eagles, blowing out in quotes, right? Yeah. Um, but here's my question to the, to you and to those who have the Eagles.
30:21
What, how much is the thought in your head that as you're talking about this- Mm... and everything you're saying makes complete sense- Mm...
30:28
but then there's this terrible possibility for you guys that Patrick Mahomes just puts on his cape, right? And it's a three-peat, and who knows, maybe they even win their 18th consecutive one-score game.
30:39
What percentage of your brain is filled with the potential self-loathing of that? Oh, for sure. You know, honestly, I kind of paint the picture on both sides.
30:48
I try to, you know, in, in every game, and I kinda look at this and as opposed to Patrick Mahomes putting on the cape, I kinda just see it as Jalen Hurts shrinking in the moment- Ooh...
30:58
more than I, than Patrick Mahomes putting on the cape. Like, I- That's interesting, 'cause he didn't in the last Super Bowl. He, he, he...
31:03
I, I look at the way that he played, granted, this last game, play- he played fantastic. Games leading into that, not so much.
31:10
And if they get a ton of pressure on him, and, and if this offensive line gets tricked, and, and they're a very, very good offensive line, but we know Spags has been able to make the greatest of offensive lines- Mm...
31:20
and the greatest of offensive coordinators look silly. If they're able to get home a ton a- and Jalen Hurts doesn't have time to kinda operate that offense,
31:28
I've painted the picture of how the Chiefs win this game and maybe even win this, maybe even win this game by double digits.
31:33
It's interesting, though, you say about Jalen Hurts, 'cause he, he did-- had the Eagles won that game against the Chiefs two Super Bowls ago- Mm... he probably is the MVP. Mm.
31:41
So that's interesting that you would think that somehow the script for the Eagles not playing well- Mm... falls on him. Yeah. It's, it... He was better this past, again- Yeah...
31:49
he was better this past game, but he has had the propensity to hold the ball a little bit too long.
31:54
He has had the propensity to maybe not really just make decisive decisions when throwing, and all of those things, and I, I can't get that out of my brain when we're talking about the conversation, is what if that happens again?
32:05
What if this defense that is put in front of him, what if these exotic blitzes, what if these crazy looks just fool him, just trick him, you know, and they can't get anything going?
32:13
And then if they're trying to be one-dimensional with Saquon Barkley, that's not gonna work.
32:17
What about, what about the simple handicap of those who say, "Yeah, it just comes down to I'd rather have Reid, Mahomes, and Butker- Mm...
32:24
if I throw in the kickers, versus Sirianni, Hurts, and Jake Elliott, who, who, Will Hill has done a great job of pointing this out. Mm. We don't, we're not talking maybe enough about Jake Elliott. This is a close game.
32:37
Mm. Jake Elliott missed an extra point. We talked about this on the mega pod yesterday.
32:41
Missed an extra point against the Packers, missed two, I wanna say, in the next playoff game against the Rams, and then missed a field goal. It was a long field goal- Mm... against the c- Commanders.
32:50
What about that just simple, the triumvirate? Yeah. I'd rather have this three than these three. Part of what it goes to our conversion props conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Certainly the top two.
32:58
The kicker thing's interesting to me, 'cause I think Butker, when he, since he's come back from injury, has not looked the same, and I think Andy Reid's actually been a little reluctant to run him out there from longer distance, like, a- and, and all that.
33:07
But yeah, certainly the top two. I mean, that is kinda like the simple handicap, and it makes perfect sense, right? No one's gonna argue with you if you just go, "Hey, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes." Okay, good enough.
33:15
Good enough for me. Sorry to make you feel uncomfortable in the middle. You can ask questions, too. Apologize. Kelly. [laughs] Yes. Kelly Biddlin, everybody. Thank you for being able to work it in.
33:24
[laughs] Matt's got props. We'll get to those next. It's the Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
33:29
[upbeat music] A Numbers Game on VSiN, the sports betting network. Back on the Numbers Game live from Circa Resort Casino, downtown Las Vegas.
33:47
Gil Alexander, Kelly Biddlin, Matt Brown. Just a few tweets here. We get tweets and beat of the book. Wet Willy Cohen, "Is there not enough room for Matt Brown's movie theater screens on that desk?
33:57
Very weird only seeing him with one singular laptop." He's- It was, it was a choice. It was a choice. It was a choice. Yeah. He's got plenty of room. He's got, like, half the desk over here. It was choice.
34:06
[laughs] He's got- Yeah, yeah. There we go... he's got [laughs] There. I just can't... Look at this. Savannah is so mad at you right now for moving. Look at that. Oh, my God. Look at that leg room.
34:15
[laughs] Oh, Todd Bubba Horwitz, uh, tweeting in. He said, "First sack at MGM, bet MGM 50 to 1 on McDuffie." Thank you, Todd. Uh, they don't have any time sack for him.
34:25
So they do have first sack for McDuffie, answering the Joe Fortenberry question that we got earlier. Bet MGM 50 to 1 McDuffie first sack, but they don't have an anytime sack.
34:33
I was shocked that that fir- the f- to have the first sack number was not way longer than that. Yeah, I would think it would be longer. JasonH11, "At least get Kelly a taller chair.
34:42
He looks like the kid that graduated to the adult table at Thanksgiving for the first time." Well, Gil and I ju- did just figure out, thank you, Matt Brown, for informing us- [laughs]...
34:50
that these chairs actually go up and down. We never knew. We had no idea. Yeah. Never knew. No wonder Samich's posture was so good. [laughs] Uh, real quick, our GBank best bets of the day before we get back to Matt here.
34:59
Uh, GBank, the official bank of VSiN, every show recapping all their bets, hosts and guests, every single show on the network. Uh, mine once again, Chiefs minus one and a half.
35:09
Uh, by the way, Matt Brown did show me a screenshot of the Chiefs- Mm-hmm... minus two and a half on Sunday night. It is a real thing. Um, once again, on the Kendrick Lamar first song, I'm just gonna say this.
35:19
I have a short shot, not like us. I have a long shot at swimming pools. But let me just say this, the first thing I said about this is
35:26
if there were ever an artist that might do some funky thing beforehand, before getting to a first song, a la Coldplay did back in the day, Kendrick might be that person. But those are my two bets.
35:36
National anthem, we're four seconds of CLV, baby. It's at 121 now. Nice. We, we got a under 125. And by the way, the under 121 is juiced.
35:44
Actually, it's under 120 and a half last I looked, so it's four and a half seconds now. I'd still go under.
35:51
And then I added, uh, Kareem Hunt, Chiefs' first touchdown score at plus 425, and Kareem Hunt the first overall touchdown score at nine to one. Kelly Bidelon. Yeah, uh, nothing for me tonight, so everything Super Bowl.
36:02
AFC, where's my AFC hat? It's, uh, it's the same price. I feel like I've asked Matt about this prop in years past too- [laughs]... and he was like, "Don't bet that, it's stupid." He was e- he was equally enthusiastic.
36:11
No, he was one of- Yeah... no, he was one of those guys like, "Don't bet that. That's stupid." As, as I was. Yeah. Uh, AFC to win Super Bowl minus 115. Let's go, Chiefs.
36:17
Uh, Patrick Mahomes to win Super Bowl MVP, I am in on that at plus 125. Xavier Worthy over five and a half rushing yards. Kareem Hunt over 42 and a half rushing yards. Isaiah Pacheco longest rush under eight and a half.
36:30
Both teams to score one plus touchdown in each half, yes. Will there be a two-point conversion attempt? Yes, plus 110. All right. Uh, also picks on the show today from JBT, Jonathan Ontobel from New Orleans.
36:43
He's on the Eagles once again on the money line, Super Bowl LIX. Xavier Worthy over five and a half rushing yards. Eagles to convert a fourth down, no, at plus 550. He's going contrarian on that one.
36:54
Likes the number at plus 550. And then Kareem Hunt, any time touchdown. Oh, he was on Kareem Hunt as well, but in a different way, at plus 140.
37:02
Uh, also Jim Root, James Patrick Root from College Hoops, Mizzou and Tennessee under 134 and a half.
37:09
He is grabbing 17 points on Tulsa tonight against Memphis, and he's laying a point and a half with Nebraska against UDub. Um, anything else that we have today after Jim Root? Joe Fortenberry. Yeah, Joe Fortenberry.
37:21
Of course. Who am I talking about here? Joe Fortenberry, A.J. Brown over 70 and a half receiving yards. Joe's a, uh, Eagles fan, Homer. A.J. Brown any time touchdown plus 165, Homer.
37:31
Uh, Trent McDuffie, the one we were just talking about, 30-1 to record a sack, 50-1 to record the first sack of this game coming from the secondary. Uh, G-BAK once again with Matt Brown.
37:42
Oh, we got one Matt Brown in before we get to his props. Yeah, little tease. Little tease. Eagles, Eagles plus two and a half. He got it in the 12-minute window. [laughs] Eagles plus two and a half versus the Chiefs.
37:51
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38:21
Matt Brown from Ready Set Bet, along with Mike Somich here on the weekends. Uh, he will be broadcasting live during Super Bowl 59 on Sunday. Always a thrill to have our old Prime Time Action co-host back with us.
38:32
Uh, MattBrownM2 on Twitter. That's it. Is that correct? Still. Yeah. Still. Yeah. You don't sound so excited about that Twitter handle. It's, you know, we, we just, we battle with these, with the common names.
38:41
At least you guys, you know, fine, there's not very many Gills. There's not very many Bidlens, but- Yes... or c- certainly not Kellys with the E-Y's. You know, you're g- you're good to go. What's the...
38:49
Well, Matt- Matt Brown... if, if you do remember- I mean-... the, my Twitter- 7 million of us, you know? My Twitter handle was taken forever, and I believe you discovered on Prime Time Action one night- Yes...
38:59
it was available. It was available. Yeah. And he nailed it. I, yeah, yeah. Nailed it. It's good for you. Wasn't there a UFC- And assisted me... wasn't there a UFC fighter named Matt Brown?
39:06
There is also a UFC fighter named Matt Brown. You got some of his tweets sometimes? I, I- I u- I used to get his text messages sent to... Yeah, 'cause we're in the same industry. [laughs] So we run with the same people.
39:13
So, like, there would be people who would text me- They're like, "Dude sucks"... thinking that... I got one not every, even very long ago from another fighter who was asking him like, "Dude, are you really coming?
39:22
Are you really considering, like, X, X, X," or something like that. And I was like, "I'm just not gonna answer this one." [laughs] Like, this is just, let's not have any fun with this.
39:29
It's always entertaining when Brian Ortega and Matt Brown fight. [laughs] Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's that. There's that. Uh, w- real quick before we get into this. Yes.
39:36
I know you've been, yeah, I heard you've been asking people about food and stuff down in New Orleans and whatnot. Yeah. Oh, you're the expert. Oh, what, do you know something about Louisiana or something? No, no, no.
39:43
But what I, what I will say is like- Like you're from there... so if you're going down there with, like, your family and kids and stuff, like, maybe do the whole Cafe Du Monde thing.
39:52
Like, I, like, you know- Very touristy... it's, it is a piece of fried dough just buried in powdered sugar. I mean, you, it's, it's, it's not gr- Beignets you're talking about...
40:02
yeah, so bring the, it's not a groundbreaking, like you're- Yeah... it's not like one of these desserts that you have and you go, "Oh, this is, like, why I came to New Orleans," right?
40:10
I mean, like, they invented Bananas Foster at Commander's Palace in New Orleans, right? Like, it was literally invented there.
40:16
You know, like, you could go there and have it at the place where the dessert was invented, and it's awesome, but, like, beignet is like, eh. All right, cool. Pe- pecan or pecan? Ooh. Pecan. Pecan. Pecan. Pe- pecan.
40:28
That's how I go. You go pecan. Oh. Yeah. Pecan pie. So you just mix all the variations? Yeah, I mix, I have a mix of all of them, yes, yeah. Good for you. Good for you. Pecan pie. All right, uh, sir. Yeah.
40:35
What are, what are your favorite props? What do you bet here? Uh, I have the worst of a number. Uh, I know it's typically unders late, overs early. I actually thought the Jalen Hurts passing prop was gonna get bet down.
40:44
I thought a lot of people would look at this and say, "Okay, in a lot of games where they have a ton of success, he's kind of in the high 100s as opposed to the 200s and stuff."
40:54
So I have an under 214 and a half with that. It's up to 215 and a half at some books out there.
40:59
So anyway, I, I, I typically do the whole unders late, o- overs early, but I, I thought this one was gonna get hammered, and it did not. So go in the opposite direction. That just sucks. Worst of it there.
41:08
Uh, Kareem Hunt over 10 and a half rush attempts is now up to 11 and a half rush attempts. I've also played the alt at 14 plus at plus 202.
41:16
I think Kareem Hunt is by f- easily the number one back there in Kansas City now. He has out touched Isaiah Pacheco in the last four games for this team that matter.
41:24
Obviously, week 18 didn't matter, but, like, the two games leading into that and the two playoff games.
41:29
So I s- I expect Kareem Hunt to try to see if he can get something going, and, and Andy Reid and them to get, see if they can get something going against this light box that Vic Fangio and them run with the Eagles defense.
41:37
I mean, that's his whole defense. He plays the super deep, two high shell thing, and, and that's the defense he's gonna play. So I, I expect him to get something going there.
41:44
So I took the over 43 and a half rushing yards with Hunt as well. Kind of a correlated deal, Isaiah Pacheco under nine and a half longest rush. That's down to eight and a half. I still think you could play it there.
41:55
I don't think he gets more than five or six carries in this. He only had a 10-yard rush four times this season as it was anyway. So, uh, for me, I like that a, a decent amount.
42:05
If I like the Eagles, I gotta like Saquon, so I didn't play just the, the typical number here. I kinda laddered the alts, and so over 130, 140, and 150, that comes in at kinda, like, plus 170, plus 240, and plus 340.
42:18
Wow. Um, so kinda going with that, that kinda game script, right? Of Saquon Barkley being able to have success, feeding him early. Didn't go over, didn't go over 200 for the record? I didn't do that.
42:28
I think that- Hell no... and that being said, there's anyone that could do it, right? Yep. I mean, this guy can, like, pop off 60 yarders it seems like, you know, uh, left and right.
42:36
Uh, Dallas Goedert over 46 and a half receiving yards. I think it's up to, like, 48 and a half receiving yards now, but this was, like, literally...
42:43
By the way, the props came out, because again, we were, we were on every- It's incredible. Oh, we talk about this all the time. Yeah. It's incredible. I was listening to you and Mike. Yeah.
42:50
Two minutes after, after the game. I mean, like, we were in... So there were actually numbers to be got. This is something for next year- Yeah... to remember for everybody out there.
42:57
Like, there were numbers to be had literally two minutes as soon as the game was, was populated. It was- And on your desktop. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there, yeah. Shout out to MGM. Shout out. Shout out.
43:06
On your, on your actual computer. Yes. Shout out to MGM. Uh, I also took a dart on, uh, just a fun, this is, this is fun, guys, fun. But I took a dart on Goedert for, uh, for MVP. It's, like, 125 to 1. You took a what?
43:17
Oh, a dart. [laughs] Yeah. Okay. There's, uh, I, I look at it from this standpoint.
43:21
Is there a, is there a, is in one in 100 times if we play this game, is there a completely disgusting gross game that finishes 17-13 where Dallas Goedert catches seven balls like he did against the, you know, in a week, two weeks ago, for 85 yards and a touchdown.
43:38
Saquon only goes for 74 and, you know, whatever, and all that. Is, is there a world that exists that maybe he could end up 125 to 1, Dallas Goedert. More of a fun one. Uh, last thing. Sports talk radio question. Mm-hmm.
43:49
If the Chiefs pull off the three-peat, regardless of everything the Patriots did- Mm-hmm... under Belichick and Brady, is this the s- would this be the single most impressive thing in pro football in our lifetime?
43:59
I, I, I think so, for sure. Because, uh, we've changed how football is, right? Like, everybody's got more data. Everyone's got more tech. Yeah. Everyone knows how to analyze and all this stuff.
44:06
Like, and they're figuring out how to beat it on the fly. I kinda think you're right. Mm-hmm. I do. Kelly, how do you enjoy being in the middle? You like it? I'm having a great time. You going again?
44:14
I'm, I'm just happy to be here. Yeah, I'll go with you. Yeah. Matt Brown, everybody. Ready Set Bet, as they all crash to the bottom. [laughs] Stories next with Money Moves, a joy for Visa, the Sports Betting Network.
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