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Jul 10, 2025
Best Of A Numbers Game | July 10, 2025
Best Of A Numbers Game | July 10, 2025
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[upbeat rock music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network. Want to bet smarter? Start with smarter insights. Right now, you can check out Zach Cohen's Wimbledon semifinal previews.
1:14
If only we could book that guy anytime soon. Zach Cohen. Yeah. Greg Peterson's MLB- Tough game... best bets. Zach also has his NBA Summer League best bets. Again, if only we could find Zach.
1:24
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1:43
Hey, before we get to Zach, I'm just kidding, we have Zach. Before we get to him, uh, you have first round leader bets in golf that you, uh, failed to give out moments ago? Yes, that is correct.
1:51
Um, I did kind of target these l- this later wave, so these guys are, they're all on the course, but they're all kind of just getting started if you did want to get involved.
1:59
Uh, Matt Fitzpatrick had played, uh, also have an outright on him. He is one under through seven. Um, so up to you if you wanna get on these guys live. Harry Hall, 70 to one. He is two under, I believe, right now.
2:15
Harry, where are you? H- two under through eight. And then Max Grazerman, 80 to one. He is one over right now, uh, just a couple holes in.
2:23
So if anybody wanted to get involved, just wanted to make sure I brought those up. Okay. Uh, we get tweets that beat me to the book. I just wanna read a couple of these.
2:29
Ted on 10, "Uh, been listening to Gil for a few years now. Thanks for all the great content. Kelly is the best. Shocked to learn he doesn't look like Artie Lange, though."
2:39
That was a, uh [laughs] Why'd you, why'd you do that? It was a very interesting tweet received this morning. I don't know. I was like, "I'm totally reading that."
2:44
[laughs] I, I don't know what I would think you'd look like. Uh... Artie Lange would not have come to mind. Yeah, yeah, that, that's the first I've heard that. Um, but you know what?
2:53
Artie Lange, whatever, he, he had some success. Well, I'm not gonna be insulted by that. Mike Palm has tweeted. Thanks, man.
2:58
He says he, uh, "Give me Cliff Drysdale on the call for a major semi or final over just about anyone," he says. I don't know if I agree with that. Okay. I don't know what he adds.
3:08
Give me Brad Gilbert on everything as a color guy, though. That's for sure.
3:12
Uh, Jesse Welch, "I don't know about y'all, but I just listened to, uh, the Deep Dive pod with Drew and Andy on the taco holders, and I'm even more hyped for this team this season, and I'm not even a fan of the Commies, LOL."
3:21
He's talking about the Washington football team. Whooft. Yeah, man. Maybe I should listen to that and get hyped, too. Love those uniforms. Love those alternate uniforms, which they're gonna wear three times this year.
3:31
Throwback to the, uh, the Joe Gibbs glory days. Why don't they just, like, j- just change them back completely? Not that, not that their new ones are bad, but, like, those, that's a great uniform.
3:41
It is, but, uh, I like the u- I like the burgundy on burgundy new ones- I do like that one... and the black on black one. I like all that stuff. Okay. All right. Yeah.
3:48
I, they definitely are not up there for, for worst uniforms in the league by any means. They just, they just gotta get rid of the tac- I like the classics... just get rid of the taco holders logo for God's sakes.
3:56
I mean- I miss the Giants classics. A lot of the NFC East ones. Yeah, you're, you're- Eagles. But y- Kelly- Kelly Green... Kelly likes this back in 1975 or '81, whenever. You li- you like those years. Mm-hmm.
4:07
Yeah, uh-huh. Todd Carnars, uh, Car- Canarsi Born65, he says, "Gil, irrespective of the outcome of this match, Anisimova's the greatest US born ova of our lifetime.
4:17
Maybe you can list your top five all-time ovas and have Kelly read them sight unseen." Yeah, maybe we'll do that a little later. Top five ovas coming up. Trying to think of, like- Oh, I got a bunch for you. You do?
4:27
I'm just thinking out, in my head right now. I'm like, "Oh, there's a bunch of them." Muchova. Muchova. However you say her name.
4:31
[laughs] Uh, Mike Montesano, our buddy, "What's the betting handle gonna be tonight with Cooper Flagg versus Bronny?" I don't know. Maybe we should bring Zach Cohen in for all this talk. Zach Cohen.
4:41
Uh, he's coming up next segment. Oh, next segment. Yeah. It's not this segment? Yeah. Oh. That was a great intro, though. [laughs] Oh. I told you we were having trouble finding him. [laughs] That's right. Yeah.
4:49
We had trouble. [laughs] Uh, I don't know. I, that's interesting. What will the, what will the handle be? Higher in Las Vegas than anywhere else. Yeah, but will it be the equivalent of what?
4:58
A standard regular season game in between, I don't know, Charlotte and Washington, or will it exceed that? I would, I would think it would exceed it, but maybe I'm completely wrong. It's a great question.
5:10
I've never- I don't know... I've never actually really gone back and compared this stuff before, uh, you know, like in past summer leagues. But yes, I, I would tend to agree with you that it's probably gonna get as...
5:22
Nah, I don't know. As much or more. There's a lot of people that, like, they, they don't, there's a lot of people that have absolutely no interest in betting summer leagues. Right. You know what I mean? Right.
5:30
It is very- True dat... it is very niche. And then are they taking the same amount? Probably not. Definitely not. Definitely not. Yeah. So there you go. Handle muted just because of that.
5:40
Uh, I'll tell you what we'll do before we talk about, before we talk summer league and tennis with, uh, Zach. Let's look at these, uh, props. These are available to bet on.
5:48
Next team odds for a few of your, uh, favorite NBA stars. One of which we've done, one of whom we've done before, but we haven't done the other two. Yeah. This is...
5:57
Yeah, let's, let's start with, uh, Bradley Beal's next team. We have not done this market. This is at DraftKings. Off the board as of now. As of this moment.
6:04
Just letting you know, thought we were, we could still talk about 'cause- Okay... Beal is a major, major storyline right now in the NBA.
6:10
Bradley Beal, uh, Washington Wizard for so many years Uh, along with John Wall, best player on a, on a really bad team, and then he was by himself best player on a bad team.
6:19
And then he got traded to Phoenix, and it was this big three situation. It's like, "Oh, this is gonna happen." By the way, Devin Booker, two years, 100... Oh my God, two years, 145 million for Devin Booker.
6:31
Uh, but Bradley Beal, what's his next team? G- good money for two years if you can get it. Yeah, not bad. It's not bad. [laughs] Clippers is the short shot for Beal.
6:37
I think JBT was saying yesterday he thinks Beal is a Clipper. That's what he said yesterday on the show. I think it, I think it's pretty much done, too. Clippers minus 175.
6:44
Everybody else seven to one or longer, and the Phoenix Suns, in case you were wondering where he played last year, 12 to one. All right. Andy, don't yell at me. Okay? Don't yell at me. I am a Heat fan.
6:56
If I had to pick one team in the NBA that I'm actually a fan of, it still is leaning to the Miami Heat, but it's becoming kind of comical, Gil, with like year after...
7:04
Like, y- the Miami Heat have s- been connected to Bradley Beal, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook for what feels like the past seven years.
7:13
And- What, what was the, what was the year with Prime Time Action where you were convinced of someone going to the Heat and you bet and- It was the bubble year, man. I, I- Oh, yeah... it was bu- it was the bubble year.
7:22
I had, uh, I had, what? 175 to one on the Heat to win it because- Because you thought? Well, I had, uh... That summer, so the summer of, oh boy, help me out with my pandemic years. So the summer of 2018?
7:35
I don't- Is that right? Probably after that. And then we started the NBA- Yeah... season, and then we went into l- uh, into the pandemic. I think that's right, right?
7:43
So summer 2018, I'm down in South Florida on vacation around this time of year. That's a couple summers before the pandemic. Okay, so then- Yeah... 2019. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, 2019.
7:53
Um, down in South Florida, uh, meeting up with a friend down there who may or may not work with the Miami Heat organization. [laughs] Very low level. Um, and he...
8:04
We're, we're out having some cocktails, and he is just tell- He's, oh, it is all we're talking about is Westbrook, the past two- Westbrook. It was Westbrook. That's right... the, the office is going crazy.
8:13
Westbrook is coming, and like, we, and we're, everything's getting lined up right now. And I'm like- And unlike today, that is like, that, at that time was big news if that happened. I r- exactly. Yeah. Yes.
8:23
Very different Russell Westbrook. Yeah. Right? Uh, um, uh, back in tho- those days. And it was, uh, yeah, there was me firing off text messages immediately like, "Hey, let me get some bets down."
8:32
Of course, doesn't pan out. Fast-forward all the way through the pandemic and the bubble, and the Miami Heat [laughs] are in the NBA finals anyways, and I've got this great ticket on them.
8:41
Uh, yeah, that w- that was a, it was a, it was a fun summer. Clippers, done deal, Bradley Beal minus 175. I think so. I do think this got, uh, I think this got a little closer with Milwaukee than people were expecting.
8:54
I mean, you're just dealing with a desperate Milwaukee franchise right now. Right? They're trying to do... And, and this is, this is going to be a very similar looking buyout to Damian Lillard.
9:03
I- it's, it's Bradley Beal. They've gotta pay the rest of the money, but for the Suns, they need-- They're trying to hit the reset button, uh, on this organization a little bit after moving Kevin Durant.
9:13
Y- you brought up, uh, uh, resigning, um... Gosh, why am I blanking on his name? Devin Booker earlier today. Uh, Bradley Beal, they're gonna move. They wanna start resetting here.
9:23
So Beal is expected to take very minimal money. So for people that are wondering like how could these teams possibly afford, how could the Bucks afford a Bradley Beal?
9:31
I- it's likely that he is signing a near a minimum contract, uh, with the Bucks 'cause he's still gonna get, be getting paid by, uh, by the Suns or paid by whoever he ends up signing with.
9:42
I think it's a, it's gonna be the Clippers.
9:43
To me, Gil, when we were sitting here talking about that Norman Powell trade, that was too curious to me of not that, not on the surface that John Collins coming back was bad or that was a bad trade, but they very willingly shipped away some shooting, some very good shooting from their team that I thought there was a little signal after that move that Bradley Beal was lined up to go to the Clippers.
10:06
So- All right... this is off the board now. I think that's what it's pr- it's looking like right now. LeBron James, next team. LeBron James, you may have heard of him. Lakers minus 700, still the prohibitive favorite.
10:17
Cavs, [laughs] return to the Cavs, six to one is next. He's staying, huh? That's what the, that's what the market thinks. Uh, yeah, there's only one thing I wanna, I wanna point out really with this and Giannis, okay?
10:28
It's just, it's just a price thing, okay? Yeah. Lakers minus 700 for LeBron. Larry, if you can flip over to Giannis, you're gonna notice the Bucks are minus 900.
10:38
All I'm saying is that the market's telling you that Giannis more likely back with the Bucks than LeBron is back with the Lakers. Is that what that's telling you?
10:48
I mean, these, these markets, let me, let me just say this. These, these price points are so hard to read into because it takes so little to move them. Sure. Right?
10:57
So but what, what you're just saying is you have the instinct that Giannis is staying with the Bucks and LeBron is staying with the Lakers? That's your instinct? Yeah, yeah. Okay.
11:03
I, I, I think at this point it would be pretty shocking if either's moved. How- however, you'd...
11:07
I, I'm just bringing that up because you still are hearing different possible trade candidate scenarios for Giannis, and meanwhile, this LeBron thing made a lot of noise, what was that?
11:19
A week a- week ago and then got pretty quiet immediately after, and we haven't really heard much after that. Yeah. Uh, 6-4-6, uh, 6-4-4-6.
11:27
We are going to a third set between Amanda Anisimova and Aryna Sabalenka in the, uh, first of the ladies semis. To be determined here as the show continues. We'll come back. Zach Cohen has been located. That's right.
11:40
And when I mean located, this was when he was always supposed to come on the show. Right a- right after the break, we'll talk Wimbledon with him and his thoughts on Summer League. He's got some bets right here in Vegas.
11:50
Coming back in Numbers Game at VSiN, the sports betting network.
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12:13
Back with the Numbers Game live at Circa Resort Casino, downtown Las Vegas, Nevada. We get tweets at Beating the Book. Uh, this is from Mamba. He says, "Best ova is Paulina Porizkova." You know who that is, Kelly? No.
12:25
She was a, a model. She was a swimsuit. She was on Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue many years, and she ended up marrying the lead singer of the group The Cars. Do you know who The Cars are? Now let me put it this way.
12:36
As soon as I punched in Paulina, it's the first name that pops up. Oh, there you go. So I guess she's kind of a big deal. Yes, I know who The Cars are. Mike Rouse, "Did Jeff Sherman give away your secret sushi location?"
12:45
What did Jeff Sherman say? He says, "Off-strip sushi at Sen of Japan." No, I've talked about Sen of Japan before on the show. Really good sushi. Right by the ballpark there, uh, the, where the Aviators play. Sen, S-E-N.
12:55
Hmm. Yeah. Good, good spot. Top three location in Vegas. There's some good spots just period over in that location. I'm gonna say top four. Top four. Yeah.
13:04
Uh, and then, uh, Auburnist says, "Are you, uh, live betting Wimbledon any?" Well, not right now, but 'cause I'm doing a show.
13:10
But, uh, Aryna Sabalenka breaks Anisimova to start set number three, and you know who had this pegged? Zach Cohen, part of the glue that holds this whole operation together. You can follow him on Twitter at Betting on X.
13:21
Joins us now courtesy of the aggressive guest line. Good morning, sir. How are you? Good. How are you guys doing? Doing very well. What was your bet in this match?
13:31
So I had Anisimova plus one and a half sets as a bigger play, and then I also sprinkled the money line, but I did mention in the write-up that I don't really trust her to play with leads, and I said it with a sp- in a spot yesterday.
13:42
There's been a little bit of a push and pull with Sabalenka too where, you know, she's, you know, played like a sloppy Sabalenka at points throughout this tournament. Yes. I really thought she should've lost to Raducanu.
13:52
Me too.
13:52
But I do think that we've kind of seen some of that championship metal get her over the finish line a few times, and I think this match you're seeing kind of the perfect storm of both, where Anisimova is a player that has trouble, you know, reaching the finish line, and Sabalenka has learned how to win a little bit.
14:06
They both do a whole bunch of talking to themselves during a match- [laughs]... when th- when things don't go their way. Yeah.
14:11
It is a, uh, it's not just tennis, it's like a, uh, psychology event, uh, with the two of them. Uh, what are, what is your play in the rest of the semis?
14:19
So we have Iga and Belinda Bencic today, and then the men's semis tomorrow. What is, what is left today? Yeah, so I took a juiced minus three and a half with Iga.
14:28
I, I, I think that this is the type of matchup that she really never loses, and I know I, I'm probably jinxing her a little bit here, but the three matches she just played are the ones that she tends to have struggle, you know, trouble with, especially on faster surfaces.
14:41
She played Danielle Collins, Clara Tauson, and Ludmilla Samsonova. Players that can hit that big from the baseline are the ones that can give her problems. She easily handled all of them.
14:51
Now she gets to play a player where her serve is bigger, her game from the back of the court is bigger. She's a better mover.
14:56
I, I really think this is the type of matchup where you really see her kinda step on a throat a- and win a set 6-1 or 6-2 at some point.
15:03
So even if she were to lose a close set somewhere along the line, I still think she's gonna cover three and a half against Bencic. From your lips to God, as my mom used to say.
15:11
All right, till tom- to tomorrow, where we have,
15:14
you know, I, I, I don't wanna c- I don't wanna offend the opponents here in, uh, Taylor Fritz and Novak Djokovic, he of 24 Grand Slam singles titles, but Sinner and Alcaraz, pretty big favorites.
15:26
Alcaraz especially against Fritz, an over $5 favorite. What are your plays in those two matches tomorrow?
15:33
Well, I will say w- with Sinner, he is a big favorite, but when you look at what happened at Roland Garros, he opened as a minus 450 favorite, only opened at minus 215 here.
15:41
So I do think that the odd makers are telling us it's going to be a little bit closer of a match. That's why if I had to take something traditional, I'd probably go over 38 and a half games or over three and a half sets.
15:52
I ultimately landed on over zero and a half tiebreakers, which just means there's gonna be a tiebreaker played at some point in the match.
15:58
Uh, they played three straight matches with tiebreakers, one tiebreaker in five of their last seven, and the match that they played in the round robin play at the Nitto ATP Finals in 2023, they played two tiebreakers in a best of three.
16:11
So I just think these two have had a lot of trouble returning each other's serves. DK had that at minus 140. Think that was the best play that you could make on that match.
16:19
For the other one, I, I go over three and a half sets with Fritz and Alcaraz, and that is just a, a l- little bit to do with, you know, Fritz's sturdiness as a server and baseliner against Alcaraz, who we know likes to put on a show a little bit.
16:32
Can, you know, trouble himself a little by, by getting a little, you know, too creative out there and playing to the crowd.
16:37
I, I think that we've seen throughout his career he's a tough player to back when it comes to, you know, against the spread or over-unders if you... He tends to go over. And Amanda Anisimova breaks back. Let's go, Mandy.
16:49
Oh, wow. That's what Todd Wishnof calls her, Mandy. [laughs] No idea why. Uh, well, so we are on serve, back on serve in set number three. All right, uh, NBA Summer League.
16:59
Um, let's, h- first of all, how into this are you from, like, just a, a macro betting standpoint? In other words, do you, do you bet futures on this?
17:09
I, I would assume so, but do you bet individual games too, or do you stay away from that? I'm doing a little bit of both. I'm doing daily best bets for the website.
17:19
I, I, it's not something I've always done, and I'm not going to suggest going too heavy on it, but I do think it's something where you can always find value.
17:26
I think you can find value in anything you're betting, so it's not something that I would just be looking to completely avoid as we have seen some people on X suggesting. So I, I do have some Summer League futures.
17:35
I have daily best bets, have some plays today, and, you know, happy to talk about 'em. All right. Let's talk about the d- let's talk about the dailies first before we get to the futures.
17:44
Yeah, so I took the Nets plus five and a half against the Thunder. That is down to four and a half now. I would still play it there. I think it's a game that Brooklyn very well could win.
17:53
I think that there's been some, you know, I don't know, just animosity towards what the Nets did in that draft. You know, I think people were pretty unhappy with the five selections that they made.
18:04
But the fact that they made four picks that are going to be playing in this Summer League says something when it comes to talent on the roster. There are four guys on this team that are very talented.
18:13
Two of 'em, Ben Saraf and Noah N'Diaye, are professional players that just played pros overseas. They should not be, you know, phased by this environment whatsoever.
18:21
They should look quite good in what's really more of, like, an AAU pl- pickup ball style.
18:26
So I do think that this Nets team's being slept on a little bit, especially when you consider that they also have Drew Timme on the roster, and Timme dominated the G League last year, had a 50-point game late in the season.
18:37
I, I just think that we're sleeping on them a little bit because we like to hate on what they did in that draft. Do they have, by the way, do they put out more... Kelly's smirking. Why are you smirking?
18:45
I totally missed Drew Timme dropping 50 in a G League game this year, okay? [laughs] Yeah. Uh, do they do an MVP for Summer League or anything like that? Yeah, they, uh, yeah, they do. All right. I'm pretty sure they do.
18:54
What, what is the Ben Saraf number? I'm curious. I, look, I've gotta take this quickly I'll pull it up. You, you guys keep chatting. Hold on.
19:01
[laughs] Ben Saraf who, uh, the, the Brooklyn Nets made history drafting Joe Wolf and Ben Saraf back to back. I don't need to tell you what kind of history that was. Yeah. Um, but you're right about Saraf, right?
19:10
[laughs] He's a pro player, so you just, you never know. He could show up and just absolutely roll in something like this. Uh, any other, any other- And Wolf is, Wolf's an upperclassman too. Yeah.
19:19
Like, these are guys that I expect to be good i- in Summer League. I just think the people wanted to hate on him, and I, I know the Thunder just played in the Utah Summer League.
19:27
Maybe that has a little bit to do with it. There's a little more continuity there. Like, these teams are just thrown together for a, a few days to practice.
19:33
They've now played a few games together, so I did write maybe the first half goes OKC's way, but I do think Brooklyn as the more talented team will end up covering and possibly winning. Any other games you bet?
19:44
Yeah, I, I also took the Lakers money line. It was minus 142 yesterday. It's out to minus 170 now.
19:51
This is a little bit of a fade on the public, which I believe will be grabbing Cooper Flagg in his first taste of Summer League action. They are playing the Mavericks tonight.
19:59
I think that this Lakers team, uh, they are another one that just played the California Classic, uh, played four games together, that one of the players on that team stood out, like, in a big way.
20:09
It was Darius Basley, a, a former high-name prospect who passed on college, uh, took an internship at New Balance. His career hasn't quite panned out.
20:19
He was by far the best player in California last week, had a monstrous game to end it on. He's going to be the one that ends up guarding Flagg in this game.
20:27
It's gonna be a nice little introduction to action for the number one pick. I think we're going to see the Lakers find a way to win that one. Okay. Um, by the way, l- lot of young, tall kids walking around the area.
20:37
All the Summer League kids are in. Yeah. And it's one of those, it's one of those situations, too, where usually y- you can recognize people, but this is one where you're like, "Oh, it's... Uh, I don't know who that is."
20:44
Yeah, right. [laughs] "I, I don't know who that is either." All right. Yeah. What numbers did you want? This is, by the way, MVP not listed, uh, everywhere. Yeah. Not listed at many books.
20:50
Ben Saraf not listed at FanDuel, which actually has it up. Mm. Not listed. Would you like odds on anybody else? [laughs] Uh, Reed Shep- Who, who's the short shot?
20:57
Reed Sheppard, uh, and Nikola Todovic are your short shots at 10 to 1, which- Okay... I think makes a lot of sense. 10 to 1. 10 to 1 is the short shot. What are some of the Grizzlies? That's appropriate.
21:07
Uh, GG Jackson's 12 to 1. Um, ooh, Taryn Shannon Jr. is 20 to 1. Not a G- uh, not a Grizzly. Is, is Cam Spencer on there? I don't know who Spencer... This is great radio. This is awesome. [laughs] No, he is not. Yeah.
21:20
Sorry, G- this is great radio. There's, there's only, like- I like the Grizzlies team... there's only, like, 20 guys listed here. Ben Saraf not listed. Yeah. Blatant antisemitism. [laughs] Once again. Danny Wolf is.
21:27
Danny, oh, well, there you go. 55 to 1. That's their cover. That's their cover. Uh, okay.
21:32
Yeah, I, I like the Grizzlies as a future, 16 to 1, which is why I asked that, and I don't know that we're gonna see GG Jackson and Jaylen Wells play the entire week. Yeah. Don't be surprised if Spencer doesn't.
21:42
Spencer is a player that could really fill it up, and we've actually seen it in regular season games. I think he's gonna look like one of the best players in Vegas this week. So, so that's what's tough, Zach.
21:50
I'm kinda stuck in that position too. I, I only have the Timberwolves future and, like, same sort of thing. I don't know how long Dillingham and Shannon are gonna go.
21:57
If I knew they were playing the whole time, for sure I would like that bet even more. Uh, but just, that's another just betting tip.
22:03
If you are gonna be betting the Summer League, be very aware that these lineups, uh, will change. Not to interrupt, guys, but I wanna get Zach's, uh, Summer League play here.
22:10
What ha- what have you played to win the whole thing? I played the Nets to win the whole thing. It was 66 to 1 at BetMGM. I, if that's still out there, I would definitely jump on it.
22:20
Like I said, I think that that team is definitely being slept on. Like I said, don't go crazy with this. It is Summer League.
22:26
I also took the Grizzlies to win Summer League, and I took the Suns to win Summer League, which might be a bit of a homer pick, but they are actually way more talented on this roster than you would expect them to be after taking Maluach, Kobe Breein, a- and, uh, Fleming.
22:39
That's three really good players from this year's, uh, draft class. They still have Oso, Igudaro, Orion Dunn from last year.
22:45
I think that they are going to be really big and physical, and I think they're the type of team that's going to be very hungry. Zach, appreciate it very much.
22:52
We'll look for your NBA season win totals thoughts at, uh, vsid.com as well. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Yep, they're up there. Zach Cohen, everybody. We'll come back. Are We Sure? next.
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Amanda Anisimova not only with the break back, but now she consolidates the break, 'cause that's what you do after the break back, and then she breaks Sabalenka again, up 3-1 set number three.
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So our plus three and a half cashes. Now the question is, can we cash the plus 205? Let's go. Let's go. Let's go, Mandy. It was, it was a disaster tournament.
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Just gotta salvage the back end of this and- What does Todd call her? Mandy? Mandy. [laughs] Yeah, I'm going with that. [laughs] Let's go, Mandy. Calls- I like it, Todd... calls her Mandy.
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Amanda Anisimova get a, uh, you know, her father died. She went away from the sport for a while. Now she's back trying to get to her first slam final here. How old is she? What is Amanda now?
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She was, I mean, she's been on tour forever. Amanda Anisimova is Amanda K. Victoria Anisimova. Guess what? She's still only 23 years old. Wow. That's amazing. She's been on tour forever. That's how tennis goes, man.
24:27
You ready to do Are We Sure? Let's do it. Okay. You here, by the way? You, you here? You're okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. You're just doing some stuff over there. Just doing things.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Are We Sure? Estamos Seguros? You think you know what's going on in the sports betting world? Are you sure? I'm positive.
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Gil and Kelly tackle the hard-hitting questions on another exciting edition of Are We Sure? Let's do it. Hey, Gil. Yes, sir. We sure MLB umpires will eventually be replaced by an automated system?
25:02
Oh, uh, will they be replaced by it or aided by it? Replaced I'm not 100% sure about that. I th- I, I...
25:10
The, the question remains, will there be a challenge system, where players really don't want that, or will they be completely replaced?
25:17
I mean, I'd love to see it completely replaced, but, you know, a lot of people aren't, don't w- A lot of people wanna see that human element. I don't know why. So I'm not 100% sure they'll be replaced. Not 100% sure.
25:28
Get rid of as many refs as we can. I agree. That's what, that's what I say. Ten- tennis has shown us the way. They really, really has. Everybody follows. Yeah. Really has.
25:35
Uh, are we sure the Blue Jays will have the most wins in the month of July? Right. But remember, in tennis there's still an umpire, so there's still a human presence as well. What was the question? I'm sorry.
25:45
Are we sure the Blue Jays will have the most wins the month of July? [laughs] No, we're not. Can we show the, the July most wins standings?
25:51
Uh, no, we're not sure, because they're 8-1, and looky here, the Red Sox are 7-1 and the Royals are 7-2. Every- I- Everybody have that?
25:59
I kind of asked this, Gil, 'cause I was shocked when I pulled up the li- like, the live odds- Yeah... over at DraftKings yesterday, and Blue Jay, before their game- Yeah... Blue Jays were down to, like, plus 130.
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Oh, that's a terrible price. They- Yeah, I was like, what? This is- Their, their schedule after the Athletics, here in the next series, gets much more difficult.
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By the way, Brewers, Tigers, and Giants, who lost 13 to nothing to the Phillies after the, uh, walk-off inside the park or the other night, they're all 6-3. So it's a scrum at the top.
26:28
I mean, Blue Jays, even with that, you know, even with the 8-0 start, it's a long way to go. 17. They do have one game in pocket, though, uh, left on the schedule, more than those other five teams I just mentioned.
26:40
Our Mariners, 4-4 after the Yankees beat them yesterday. 8-0. Mariner, Mariners hit, like, 14 homers yesterday and w- and still lost by three. [laughs] That's, that's tough to do. Yeah. No, they didn't hit 14.
26:49
Cal Raleigh had six of them? [laughs] No, no. Yeah, no, they, I think they had, like, four homers. Didn't matter. That leads me to my next question, actually. Yeah.
26:56
Uh, are we sure Aaron Judge will finish the season with the most home runs- No... in Major League Baseball? No, I'm not sure about that. Cal Raleigh could beat him.
27:03
Um, I mean, but Aaron Judge is still, again, we've, we've talked about this, don't bet Cal Raleigh for, for MVP, 'cause Aaron Judge dwarfs him in, in all other categories. But no.
27:12
Do, am I sure that he'll win, that he'll have the most home runs? No. It's very impressive, though, what Raleigh's done, because I don't...
27:18
If, if we had, if I had told you in April, right, Judge would have this many home runs at this point, you'd be like, we'd well be like, "Yeah, he's g- he's gonna lead." No. "He's gonna lead." 36 now for Cal Raleigh. 36.
27:30
Are we sure Novak Djokovic cannot win Wimbledon? I'm, I'm, I'm sure about it. I, you know... Am I 100% sure? No, but I'm 98.9% sure. I like it. I like it. Um- Take a stand. Yeah. No, he's not winning it.
27:44
He's not winning it. I mean, it's... Listen, the f- what is, what else does the guy have to prove? The only two players in tennis he can't beat, and he's, you know, what, 37 years old now, or 38, Novak is.
27:55
Um, I lose track always. Let me get the exact number for you. But, um, yeah. No, I'm sure he's not gonna win. Sure he's not gonna win. 38. 38. Okay. Are we sure Novak will never win another Grand Slam?
28:07
I am also sure about that. Because Wimbledon is his best shot, and he's still not gonna be... I... It would take Alcaraz and Sinner to both be hurt.
28:18
And as Drew pointed out the other day, he's left a f- he's left a couple on the table, right? Yeah. The one where he hit the linesman at the US Open, which Dominic Thiem ended up winning,
28:27
and then the vaccine year, right? The vaccine year. The vaccine year, he, he got deported from Australia. What was he, like, what was, what was that story?
28:34
Wasn't he locked up in a hotel for, like, a month or something there? Well, they w- they were all locked up in hotels. Like, it was bad. We forget how bad- Yeah... that Australia...
28:41
Like, was it- And then they sent him home? Was it Badosa or somebody was, like, locked up for for- locked up, I say, but I mean she was trapped for, like, 14 days or more or something like that.
28:49
Um, yeah, they sent him back because Australia wasn't playing around. Man. They're like, "If you're not vaccinated, you can't come in." And he came, and they said, "Goodbye." All right, Gil.
28:59
So, so I'm sure he's not gonna win another, and, and there's nothing wrong with that. 24 is tied with Margaret Court for the most singles titles ever. Most on the men's side.
29:08
How many more y- how many more years do you think he'll try? Uh, w- couple more. Okay. So even, like, he goes winless next year, you think, you think he's still back for a little bit more? I mean, that's- Yeah...
29:18
being tied is annoying, right? You're gonna wanna do everything you can to try to get that yourself. Well, he's already, I mean, he's already the men's, the title. I mean, he's got more than
29:27
Nadal, who has 22, and he's got more than Federer, who has 20, 20. Yeah. So, I mean, he is the gr- he, he is, by that measure, the greatest of all time. We all have our preferences.
29:36
I, I am, I'm a Roger guy, but what does he have to prove? All right. From the VSiN NFL Betting Guide. Oh. All 26 experts asked [laughs] selected the Bills to win the AFC East.
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Are we sure the Buffalo Bills will win the AFC East? Yeah, as long as Josh Allen doesn't get hurt. Yep, we're sure. Good job, VSiN folks. I agree. What could go wrong? What could go wrong? [laughs] Yeah.
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All right, this has been brought up a couple times. I, I don't even remember if we brought it up on our show. Also from the betting guide, nobody selected the Kansas City Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.
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Are we sure the Chiefs could not win the Super Bowl this year? Nope, we're not sure about that. No one would be shocked. No one would be shocked.
30:23
You might be a little surprised, 'cause you don't think so, but no one'd be shocked. We're not sure.
30:27
It was a good conversation that Stormy and JVT were having, 'cause it was, uh, there were, I, they were the most selected team still to win the AFC West.
30:34
Even though there was some love for the Broncos and Chargers, they were still the most selected team to win the AFC West. Yeah. But nobody had them winning the Super Bowl. That was interesting. As they should be.
30:43
What, what, how many AFC West titles in a row have they won? Is it nine? Something like that?
30:47
Oh, it's ridiculous, but, I mean, I think we would all agree it's the, it, uh, you don't think it's a lot tighter this year than what we've seen in years past? I mean, I think it's tighter.
30:55
I don't think it's a lot tighter. Man, I think nine whole division's better. Nine straight... I, I do, too, but I don't think it's a lot tighter. Nine straight seasons.
31:04
But keep in mind, again, the Chiefs went 12 and 0 in one-score games last year. [laughs] Um, yeah, nine straight seasons winning the division... made, have made five of the last six Super Bowls.
31:16
Like, what are we talking about? You really gonna pronounce them dead? The other one, like, going back to, okay, do I expect that stat to regress this year with the one-score games? Yes. Sure.
31:25
But just like we kinda talked about with the Commanders, right, last week, there, there is, there is something between one of the best coaches and quarterback combinations of all time, like, pull- like, guess what?
31:38
They're gonna pull out those wins more times [laughs] than others are going to. Can I just, can I just repeat what I just said? Because I, we tend to say things, and when we're in the moment, we tend to gloss over them.
31:48
Yeah. They have been to five of the last six Super Bowls. It's crazy. It is. I just, I just feel like we don't appreciate that somehow. No, we don't, and that's kind of the point of this question. Yeah.
31:58
Like, they're, everybody thinks they're gonna win the division, but we're all finding ways of them not making the Super Bowl or not winning the Super Bowl, including myself. All of us did it.
32:06
Uh- It's, it's amazing, the American sports fan psyche, though. If they lose the Super Bowl as badly as they did, you just sort of erase all that. Like, ah, so what? They got crushed. And I, I know. Yeah.
32:14
Like, and that's part of it, right? Yep, yep. That's part of it. Okay, are we sure the Thunder cannot go over their 62.5 win total mark? Uh, I would go under, but I'm not sure they can't. No, I'm not sure.
32:26
They could absolutely go over it. You don't think they could win 63, 64 wins? That, like, go, do that? That's still four or five games worse than last year. It's incredible to say that. Yeah.
32:34
Like, when you, when you put it like that- Yeah... it's, it's, it's true. Yes, I think they can. I was, and I have not bet the under. I got a lot of respect for this Thunder team. I don't want to.
32:43
Obviously, you guys have heard me talk about it for the past nine months. You're probably sick of me talking about the Thunder. I don't, I don't wanna live through that bet. I would not wanna live through that bet. Yeah.
32:50
But man, with how much better the Western Conference got, I was pretty stunned to see that it was 62.5, uh, when that came out the other day. All right. 12th 60-plus season win total since the early '90s.
33:03
Buddhist man has not sent me this hat yet, but are we sure the Heat don't stand a chance in the stacked Southeastern division of the NBA? [laughs] That includes the Atlanta Hawks and the Orlando Magic, Gil.
33:15
It's our first ever Southeast Division question on Are We Sure. Um, I'm pretty sure they can't. Um, and I love Spoelstra, and I love that organization. They've given us a lot of betting wins over time. Yep.
33:30
But yeah, the, the Hawks and the Magic appear to be a lot better. I think so, too.
33:34
I would just say keep in mind, as they've done the past few years, they're just keeping enough on that roster, Gil, to make a move- Yeah... if they have to and still have some weapons surrounding that star.
33:42
Yeah, cut to a shot of us in, in April when the, uh, Heat are winning that division. Uh, coming back, Crack Unscripted next.
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Back at The Numbers Game live from Circa Resort Casino, downtown Las Vegas. Gil Alexander and Bill Krackomberger, unscripted. You can follow him on Twitter @BillKrackman with a K.
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The name of the, uh, podcast is Wisekracks, which he does with Jon Orlando, super nice guy as well. Um, we get tweets at Beating The Book.
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Ryan Hyatt, "And we did not have Andrew Dice Clay quote from Gil with Krackman on our VSiN ANG bingo card this morning. Well played, well played. Great conversation today. Thanks for letting us listen in."
34:32
Thank you for listening, Ryan. [laughs] Jay Buckley, "Are we liking Iga more, less, or the same after the Anisimova semifinal? Curious your thoughts."
34:41
Same for me, um, because Amanda Anisimova, if anything, might have, you know, better, she, she has better grass numbers than Sabalenka does.
34:51
Um, but then there's the question of, you know, Anisimova getting over the finish line if she is to play Iga. But I'm on, listen, it's grass.
34:58
You gotta be nervous about everything, including this match here that's about to take place. But I have, uh, good faith in I- in Iga. Uh, Stupid Sports Bets, "That is one hell of a match we just watched." Yes, it was.
35:08
Steve The Proxy, "Uh, I've seen Vinnie Favorito before. I brought my wife and her parents." Oh, boy. "I'm, I'm white. They are Black.
35:18
A few minutes in, I realize we're way too close to the stage, and it's only a matter of time before he ca- he comes for us. We had a great time, but man, definitely some squirming in the seats." Yes. He said.
35:30
Uh, Sam @Swest96, "Sitting on a 70 to 1 Anisimova ticket. Let's go Bencic." [laughs] Yeah, that's probably who you should be rooting for, for sure. Teasers and parlays. Jay Crawford.
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Yes, was the, was the Cold Pizza host. Excellent. Thank you. Uh, loved watching that show growing up. J&J Watering Hole, uh, "Broke, busted, disgusted, and can't be trusted." [laughs] The best tagline ever.
35:51
Jim Devitt, "Let's go Iga," he says. Um, "I'm sitting," this is Jim talking, "I'm sitting with tickets on Iga and Anisimova to win Wimbledon." Good for you, Jim. Uh, good for you indeed.
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Anisimova winner +205, and Anisimova plus the games also a winner, as, uh, a crappy tournament turning kinda good here in the business end. Uh, turning better, let's put it that way.
36:25
It ain't gonna be a disaster on a match play, and of course, if Iga gets home, it'll be a winner. Iga 9 to 1 to win Wimbledon. Mariners 20 to 1 most wins in July, not looking good. Not looking good. In the early going.
36:36
Still early. They got easy parts of schedules coming up. Uh, Kelly, Kelly Bidelin, Kelay Bidelon, Hawks over 46 and a half wins. Raptors over 34 and a half wins in the NBA.
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Timberwolves to win Summer League here in Vegas, which begins tonight. 15 to 1 he's got the T-Wolves at. And in the CFL, Hamilton -4.5. Kelly went 3 and 0 in his, uh, return to Canadian Football League handicapping.
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What could go wrong? 3 and 0, documented. Maybe not documented. Zach Cohen's best bets on the show. Uh, he is on Fritz Alcaraz over three and a half sets tomorrow.
37:14
He is on the Fr- uh, Sinner/Djokovic Over a half a tiebreaker.
37:19
So he believes that one of the sets at least between Sinner and Djokovic will result in a tiebreaker, uh, so he is betting that over half a tiebreaker minus 140.
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He's got the Nets in their first game in Summer League plus four and a half points.
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He's got the Lakers on the money line in their first game in Summer League, uh, minus 142, as Zach jumps into the fray for Summer League in individual games. And then finally, uh, we also got one from Bill and Fez.
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38:35
Yeah, it's all right. Uh, wearing the gray, the gray-and-gray matching- Gray and gray... Tangolin shirt. By the way, did you see this? What is that?
38:41
Uh, Love Island USA, uh, where I was talking about this show, uh, these past couple weeks. This show is so popular it cannot... I mean, it's every night of the week except one. It's a reality show.
38:54
These, these, uh, kids, girls and boys, hot 20-somethings, uh, put on Fiji, but they, they don't, we don't even see Fiji. They're just on, like, this little island. Okay.
39:03
And they're just, they're coupling up, and it's a $100,000 prize at the end. But Circa has gotten in on the action for those who are in town. Uh, this is their tweet. "Love's on the line. Champagne's on us.
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Join us this Sunday, July 31st" It should be July 13th. Pardon me. "July 13th for an official Season 7 finale screening of Love Island USA. Big screen equals bigger drama. Bottomless champagne for the ladies.
39:26
His-and-her cocktails. Iconic villa-style activations." I have no idea what that means- Uh-huh... but it sounds like it's, like, the way that they have the setup there in Fiji.
39:36
Uh, you can reserve your spot for this event. This is doors opening at 5:00 PM this Sunday for the Love Island finale. Who is gonna be the winning couple?
39:45
Who's gonna be the winning man, the winning, uh, lady in the couple? Reserve it at circulasvegas.com/night-in-the-villa. Huh. Do they have gambling out there at the pool?
39:58
You can see, I- Yeah, they, they have a, they have the ability to- They have blackjack tables? I, uh, yeah, I think so. Okay. Don't they? Yeah, they have blackjack tables. So, so here's what I wanna know.
40:05
Um, I, I've never, I've been to the top area there. I just never went down the steps down below, so I didn't know if they have blackjack.
40:11
Is the gaming law rule that if you're going to play blackjack outside, they have to let you out for free? I think I, someone told me that, that I respected. Have to let you out for free?
40:22
Well, they, they have to not charge you to get into the pool. Oh, I don't know. In other words, if you're there to play blackjack- Oh... you say, "I'm going to play blackjack," they, they let you in for free.
40:30
You have to show an ID still, but they let you in for free. This is where I'm, this is where I'm too old to answer it because- Oh, I'll, I'm, I'm too old to answer it...
40:37
because, because back in the day at the Hard Rock- Yeah... they let us into the pool free and we could play blackjack, right? Yes. Yes. But there was, there was no cover charge back in those days.
40:43
I think if you say, "I'm going out to gamble," are you gonna- Well, how many people will s- This, this is a big hack is what you're saying. Oh, I, I'm sorry.
40:49
Is how many people say- It just costs the place hundreds of thousands... I was gonna say, how many people say, "Yeah, I'm gonna play blackjack," and then they never do?
40:55
Y- y- well, that's what I'm, that's what I would do. [laughs] I'm just saying. But no, I just wanna know, like, it's not just here by the way, it's all the pools that have, that charge to get in- Yeah...
41:02
normally, but if you're gonna say, "I'm going to play, I'm going to gamble." Dude, could you imagine? I mean, there was nothing better than rehab when we were kids. When I'm kids, I mean, like, in 20s- Right...
41:11
and early 30s, and all it took, I've said this many times before, I was the guy that didn't drink among our friends. Right.
41:17
So they're like, "Gil, you gonna wake up at, like, you know, at, at crack of dawn and get our lounge chairs?" "Yeah, I'll do it," and I would roll down there.
41:22
I'd throw towels on, like, four lounge chairs, and those were our chairs for the rest of the day. Could you imagine today? Right. That was, that was like gold. Right.
41:28
They're treated like, "Oh my God, that's gonna cost you a cover charge, and then tips, and all kinds of..." Yeah. Totally different thing. So, uh, I, I thought about this.
41:36
So I went to, uh, Bagel Mania the other day, which is the, um, Steve Siegel's bagel place here in town on Convention Center, and I ran into Vegas Paulie C, who's a big- Vegas Paulie C...
41:45
yeah, he's a big, um, social media, but I- Yeah... I've seen some of the things.
41:49
I really don't look at all of them, but I looked at some of them, and, um, he just made a video on the Rio, and it's, it's, it's a real big advantage where it was an advantage out there, and if I talked about it, people will get upset at me and say, "Crack, why are you telling people that?"
42:03
But now that it's out there, and it's only been out there for a couple days, let me tell you a great promotion that I took one of my friends that's here in town.
42:10
He's been here a couple weeks, and he had a Diamond Elite card. So if you have a high-level card, a Wynn black card, or a, the, the top-level card from other casinos,
42:21
you can go over to the Rio, and they're doing what's a tier match right now. So you go to the Rio, show them your card, sign up for their card.
42:29
If you don't, if you have their card already, it's no good, but if you don't have a card for the Rio, and when I say have their card, for their new, the, the new Rio rewards with this new, um, uh, company that, that owns it in New York.
42:41
So now you go there. They give you 500 bucks free play, real money. You can just go up and put it through the machine. It's actually $510. They, they, they give you $10 they give everybody.
42:52
$500 if you have the l- the premium level card, but even if you don't, even if you have a lower level card, every level is this, is so much money, like 100 or $200, but the top level is $500. Pretty easy to do.
43:05
I actually did it with myself, too. I went over with a high-level card. They gave me 500 bucks. Um, he also got $500.
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And on Sundays is the day to do it 'cause they have 10-time points Sunday, uh, on machines, two-time points on video poker. But if you're gonna give them some play, you'll get some good bounce-back offers, though.
43:22
Rio tier match, 500 bucks with any premium, uh, card in town. It's, you know, you can run it through a machine, and I ran mine through a, a, a blackjack machine, but, um, I actually gave them a play, though.
43:35
I actually played 'cause I wanted to see what kind of bounce-back mail I'm gonna get actually, but I won 300 bucks, so, um, and, and I should have a good, a good offer for some bounce-backs, so.
43:43
That is a good actionable information. It- That is, it, it's- Yeah... it's, it's so good- So now you're gonna get-...
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that I probably wouldn't have said it unless I'd seen Vegas Paulie C say it, and I, and now it's out there. Right.
43:51
Well, it's already out there before you, so you, you shouldn't take any incoming for, for mentioning this on air. People shouldn't be mad at you. No, but believe it or not, the more people that mention it, the, the...
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You know, here's what you're afraid of.
44:01
You're afraid that all these people are taking advantage of this and they're running the money through and not playing, which, uh, is, is positive EV to do that, and what happens is they say, "Oh, what are we doing?
44:12
We can't do this anymore. We gotta change the o-" Yeah. And they change it midstream. Yeah. That's, that's the big, um- No, I get it, but it's already out there, so. It's already out there. Yeah. You're not the first.
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So- Okay... you know, I, I wanna just say, uh- We gotta run. We gotta go? Uh. All right. One of the biggest, one of the biggest things people do, they come to town, they try to make a score with every penny you have.
44:29
It's the biggest downfall. I had someone, one of my buddies was just mentioned that. He, he just, every penny he has, he's, he came, brought it here, and just went broke in a couple days. Yeah. So anyway.
44:38
Bill Crackenberger, everybody, right here on The Numbers Game. Money Moves with Stormy and JBT next. Enjoy.
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