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Jun 13, 2025
Best Of A Numbers Game | June 13, 2025
Best Of A Numbers Game | June 13, 2025
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0:00
[upbeat rock music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network. Back with the numbers game live from Circa Sports, downtown Las Vegas. Gil Alexander, Kelly Bedell, what's happening?
0:17
Um, we get tweets. I just wanna read this one right here, Kelly. Coach Brian, this is pretty much my feelings on Conn Smythe.
0:22
He says, "I'm sitting on a Bennett 30 to 1 ticket and a Draisaitl 8 to 1 ticket thanks to VSiN. I'm eating my fingernails for the next three games hoping Connor McJesus does not go into legend mode."
0:32
What could possibly go wrong? Yeah, I, I go back to what I said last segment, which is that's all it's gonna take. That's what I'm worried about.
0:38
Like really, if he just puts in some huge goal in game seven with some highlight reel play, that's the end of that. Yeah. I just feel like that that's how we'll get beat.
0:47
I, I also, I also think that we are ni- I'm gonna go with 90% down to those final three that you just listed. Yeah. But oh man, these odd swings are wild. We were just looking at that.
0:57
Bobrovsky, one bad game, he's out of it completely. Tkachuk scores a couple goals, moves from 100 to 1 yesterday. Uh, Danny and Savannah found in the back 100 to 1, now down to 10 to 1.
1:07
Yeah, he scored the first two goals yesterday. But I mean, Bennett has 14 goals in the playoffs. By the way, between Draisaitl and McDavid, just in case you were wondering, 32 points apiece now in the playoffs.
1:16
They're tied. Uh, Draisaitl 11 to six in goals, McDavid 26 to 21 in assists. Draisaitl 10 to 8 in plus minus. Um, you have any second round, uh, US Open plays? You want us to Jensen? Yes, I do actually. I do.
1:28
Uh, yes, I do have a couple of second round match-ups. I added, I added a top 10 on Viktor Hovland.
1:35
VSiN.com, by the way, we are doing recaps for the US Open every single day, myself, Matt Brown, Wes Reynolds, Matt Youmans putting in thoughts, bets in there.
1:42
So, uh, I put in Hovland top 20, top 10 in there I talked about yesterday. Also brought up the Si Woo Kim top 10 bet we were discussing yesterday. Added those for finishing positions.
1:53
And then second round match-ups, Taylor Pendrith over J.J. Spaun. Tip of the cap to Chris Fallica, actually. He sent that one in. I was like, "Oh, that's, it looks like a good one."
2:01
And then Si Woo Kim over Ben Griffin today. How about Brooks Koepka's round so far today? Three birdies and four bogeys through 10. One over. It is, uh... I just hope he... I mean, he should be.
2:13
I hope he is a story all weekend, Gil. Yeah. Like, it is... Okay, Jor- real quick, Jensen, sorry, I know you're hanging by. Jordan Spieth could not be more annoying yesterday. [laughs] He was classic Jordan Spieth.
2:23
Complaining, whining about everything, and then you get Brooks Koepka. So I don't, I don't really know why I love Brooks, 'cause he gets all salty with the media, right?
2:30
He's kind of annoying from that standpoint, I get it.
2:32
But this guy had the balls, the balls to call Oakmont not that hard of a test before the tournament, Gil, when he's barely played well in the past two years, and then went out and did that yesterday.
2:44
He backed up his bold statements beforehand. Mm. Bro- uh, Brooks is just... He, he's kind of a king, man. He's kind of a king. Ma- management's in Omaha.
2:50
You could scream about anything you want, nothing can happen to you. [laughs] That's true. What else you wanna scream about? By the way, Scheffler one over now for the day through eight. That's done. Spieth, man.
2:58
They just love it. They bump out to break with Spieth just hot mic, and it's like, "No, shut up. He's just complaining about everything."
3:05
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, he's a co-host of By the Books, which precedes us each and every day here on the network, uh, hosted by Captain America, Dave Ross, and Jensen Lewis.
3:13
It's Jensen Lewis live from Omaha courtesy of Aggressive Gaslight. How you doing, Jensen? We are good. Uh, couple of, uh, jello shots deep for, uh, for Dave and the boys, uh, and everyone back home.
3:24
So, uh, I think a few people had, uh, and Kelly can appreciate this, we had a couple of rookie mistakes from people going too hard too fast- Oh, boy... and, uh, it's not how you start, it's how you finish.
3:33
So, uh, uh, f- I, I plan on, uh, climbing the odds board, uh, tonight and then finishing strong. Uh, just explain to me, how, how do we determine who the winner is? Everybody falls flat except for one person?
3:44
Like, what, how is that determined in the end? [laughs] It, Last Man Standing, right? How is it? I mean, this is Survivor, uh, Omaha style, right? [laughs] That's right. This is probably it.
3:53
Uh, no, it's, uh, it's been good. It's been a lot of fun, uh, and just having everyone here, and, uh, wish you guys could be here as well. Um, first time to Omaha for me, uh, as well, and, and just taking it in.
4:03
Uh, we are about to have, uh, the monsoon of LSU and Arkansas fans get here later today, so, uh, you will not be able to get a spot any of the establishments here probably this afternoon, well into this weekend.
4:15
Uh, all right, let's start with today's games, uh, in bracket one. Coastal Carolina, Arizona, and Oregon State, Louisville. Are those the two today, or are we in bracket two today? Yes. I think those are the two today.
4:24
Yeah, those are the two today in bracket one. Yeah. Um, first of all, do you have any futures still alive? I have an Arkansas, I feel like it's 650. I have to double check, um, where they are right now.
4:37
Uh, but I, I think, uh, I, what I would have loved to have had, and I should have probably done it when I saw their draw, was Coastal Carolina.
4:45
And, uh, Gil, I think I remember you and I texting back and forth about, okay, Florida was gonna be one of those really popular teams to win that regional.
4:54
In the back of my mind, I'm like, I, I really should have just gone back to, hey, great frontline starting pitching. They're at home. That's an offense that's suited really well for that ballpark.
5:02
So, uh, that's the one that I have FOMO on. Uh, now down to six. Uh, I'm sure they were in the 30s, uh, at one point. But, uh, yeah, we'll, we'll see.
5:11
This, this s- first bracket, this left side of the bracket, if you will, very wide open with Coastal and Arizona, and obviously with Louisville and Oregon State.
5:18
Yeah, Coastal is the only one, Jensen, that I have any FOMO on. I didn't consider any of the other seven for even a moment. Yeah. So Coastal is that for me. Uh, do you have a play in any of those two first games tonight?
5:29
Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna go...
5:30
And, and for people that are just jumping in here, Gil, on, on how, uh, TD Ameritrade ballpark plays, it is very spacious, very similar to Kauffman Stadium, for, for you Royals fans out there.
5:41
Um, so a lot of ground to track. And, uh, I got in on the under nine and a half yesterday, uh, down to nine in a lot of places here for Arizona and Coastal Carolina.
5:51
Uh, Owen Kremkowski's gonna go, uh, for Arizona in game one. Uh, he got, uh...
5:56
I don't think he got out of the second inning, uh, in his first start on Friday against North Carolina in the Chapel Hill super that I was covering. So I think good bounce back spot.
6:04
Uh, but I do respect, uh, where Coastal's frontline starting pitching is. I do feel they're gonna be able to limit Arizona's offense too, so you could see a very low scoring game.
6:12
Uh, perhaps a, a three to two, five to three, somewhere in there. And for college standards, that's really low scoring. Uh, same can be said, I think, for Louisville and Oregon State on the under 10, uh, in that one.
6:22
Uh, I, again, and I haven't walked outside yet, guys, but traditionally, uh, you know, the wind, it will play, not like a Wrigley Field factor here, but certainly if it's blowing out, that's something to factor in on the totals markets.
6:34
But, uh, as of right now, everything looks pretty calm. Uh, so I do think that sticker shock of just getting on the field for the first time, do feel like pitching dominates here in day one. Yeah.
6:43
Uh, Coastal Carolina, by the way, out of the Sun Belt, got here by beating Auburn twice, two thrillers.
6:48
Uh, Arizona took down North Carolina at Chapel Hill in two, uh, uh, really in the face of elimination, two games with the face of elimination, and get to the College World Series for the first time in the Chip Hale era.
7:00
Louisville here, uh, beating Miami, Oregon State having beaten Kelly Bylands fighting FSU Seminoles, uh, to get here. What about tomorrow? Murray State is the darling, if you will, of this, uh, bracket right now.
7:13
And Murray State, by the way, Jensen, you and I talked about beforehand that prop will a four seed get there. Um, this is the one that cashed, right? Murray State did in fact get there as a four seed. Yeah.
7:25
Remarkable, right, Gil? And, and, uh, yes, they are Cinderella live and in living color here. But, uh, don't tell that to them or their potent offense. Uh, I, I think they are very live.
7:35
I jumped on them, uh, on the money line yesterday, plus 210.
7:38
I think they're down to, to plus 200 in, in a couple of spots, and it wouldn't shock me, uh, if that number goes further south here, uh, just with some of the momentum, and just really the matchup in general, uh, here, Gil.
7:49
I, I think they match up extremely well against UCLA's pitching. Uh, I'd be fascinated to see where this game is late. Uh, no play on the total for me.
7:56
Don't know, uh, if UCLA's offense is, is gonna kind of trade punches here. But love the way Murray State i- is coming in swinging. They're a very confident bunch.
8:05
Uh, I'm not getting in the way of this freight train right now. Let's go Racers, and let's see them, uh, pull a day one, uh, a day one in their bracket upset as well.
8:12
Yeah, two to one dogs in the game against UCLA tomorrow. And then LSU Arkansas, what's the, uh, what's the strategy here? Obviously, the only conference that's represented with two teams, they happen to play each other.
8:23
Uh, do you wait for the loser here and then jump on the loser? Exactly. Uh, and, and again, uh, another total play for me. Got, uh, under 10 yesterday. It dipped as low as nine, and then a little buyback here.
8:34
I'd still advise, uh, the under nine and a half. A boatload of power pitching here that's gonna come at you left, right, center.
8:41
Uh, and, and the atmosphere, uh, guys, if you've, you know, seen plenty of SEC weekends, it's going to feel that way. Uh, as far as football season goes, it's gonna feel that way, 30,000 strong, uh, here in Omaha.
8:52
So you'll get to hear all the, uh, calling the Hogs. You'll get to hear, uh, all the, uh, LSU Tiger chants. So I think today, uh, those teams kind of get a feel of, of how the ballpark is playing.
9:02
But again, a lot of swing and miss from both pitching staffs. So I think you could get, uh, a tightly contested match. But also, Gil, I'm with you on strategy.
9:11
Uh, whichever team ends up losing this one, I would say you could jump on them almost in a sense of if you don't like what the future price ends up being, I'd roll the money lines over.
9:19
Uh, 'cause obviously it's double elimination, so they'd have to win out to be able to get to the College, uh, World Series final.
9:24
Yeah, so you can withstand one loss before you get to the best of three championship, if you will. So you could, you could withstand two losses from now until the title, essentially.
9:35
So just reviewing those first four games, the official play is on which one, or which ones here? Yeah, so we'll do, uh, we'll do four official plays. Under nine and a half in Arizona coastal.
9:45
We'll do under 10 in Louisville, Oregon State. Uh, Murray State on the money line plus 210, and then the under 10 in LSU Arkansas. All right, what's your favorite?
9:54
Can I, can I trouble you for your favorite MLB play of the day, sir, since that is your bread and butter? I would... Yeah, I would say I do like the Red Sox and the Diamondbacks today.
10:03
I think the, the matchup there, uh, Garrett Crochet, uh, back-to-back starts here against New York. Think he'll be in a great spot. Uh, wouldn't mind a, a little Paul Skeen strikeout ladder today.
10:13
Uh, the little matinee special against the Cubs offense. We'll kind of see how that plays out. Uh, but that's where I'm standing right now. Obviously, we'll have a boatload more to come here.
10:22
Uh, maybe one under two for you, Gil. Under in, uh, Rays and Mets under eight. Good pitching match up there, too, Taj Bradley, uh, and Clay Holmes. So I think a lot of action here on a very loaded MLB slate too.
10:32
Jensen, I really appreciate it. We really appreciate it.
10:34
Uh, as you look across at your VSiN cohorts, just before we go here in, in 10 seconds, who's the person you're looking across with the Jello Shots and you're like, "That's the, that's the one I've got to beat"?
10:44
I, it st- I think Stormy is really kicking the tires and ready to light the fires once they sign off today. I, I think- Wow... uh, that's who I gotta beat. Stormy Bonatony. Thank you, Jensen. Appreciate it.
10:54
Jensen Lewis, everybody. Buying the books. [upbeat music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network.
11:11
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11:22
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11:34
I always look at that and think college, uh, excuse me, uh, Chicago White Sox. College World Series is what we're talking about. Vsyn.com/cws.
11:43
Um, Money Moves will, uh, be with us, or J- JVT and Stormy, that is, will be with us here later on in the show.
11:49
Then of course they'll broadcast right at the, uh, the top of next hour, and then, uh, Follow the Money a little later on, live from Omaha. Omaha. Um, we get tweets and beat the book.
11:59
Let me just read, uh, Ben in the Woods, who says his theory is the NBA final games are too spread out. It's hard to get excited about games you have to wait three days for. It kills the momentum.
12:07
Game five and six is a M- is Monday, then Friday? Ridiculous. Is that true? Game five is Monday and game six is Friday? I didn't even notice that. Sounds right. Is that correct?
12:18
I know, I know it's Friday, Monday, like we obviously have tonight and then Monday. We have Friday, Monday, yes. I, I, I mean- And why-... I, I completely agree with that statement. I do.
12:26
I mean, it's- And we've, we've talked about it. Yeah, we've talked about it. We've talked about it at nauseam. The amount of time you have off even befor- between the conference finals and the finals is silly.
12:34
He's right. And then- He's right. It's Monday, Friday. That's insane. That's terrible. Mm-hmm. It, it never, it's, it's terrible, 'cause again, if they play a game seven, it's on June 23rd.
12:43
I'm fine with, I, I'm pretty sure hockey sticks in this, right? Where it's the, I'm fine with giving an extra day between the travel, right? If you need to take two days off because you're traveling, fine.
12:53
If you're in the same city, just go every other night. Uh, by the way, a couple things before we get to Nick Whelan here, co-host of Prop Points, 'cause he's got NBA thoughts and NFL thoughts as well.
13:01
We always like to hear that.
13:02
Um, that Edmonton comeback, three to nothing deficit, that is the first road team in Stanley Cup Final history to rally from a deficit of at least three goals and win since the Montreal Canadiens rallied to defeat, are you ready for this, Kelly, the Seattle Metropolitans in overtime in 1919.
13:20
Well, that was a quality team. You can't let them get behind and just fall asleep. Yeah, they were an underachiever. Yeah. Yeah, their analytics, analytics were better than their performance.
13:27
Um, and then for Draisaitl, 11th goal, right, fourth goal in overtime of the playoffs, but 11th goal for this entire postseason.
13:34
Home teams, by the way, just to put it a different way, home teams with at least a three-goal lead in the Stanley Cup Final, 158 and one before last night's game.
13:42
John Rom currently chi- chipping out of a goalie of some kind. That's, uh, that's the word I'm gonna go with. A goalie? Yeah, yeah. There, there's, there's these trenches at Oakmont- Oh, yeah...
13:50
and he's just, like, right in the middle of one. He's fallen off completely. I did live bet him yesterday- Oh... during first round.
13:55
And since you bring that up, so remember how at the beginning of the show we were trying to update the leaderboard? They were both lagging onto what- Mm-hmm... we actually saw.
14:01
Did you notice, did anybody else notice when it went to overtime yesterday, if you looked at your Yahoo scoreboard or maybe even your ESPN scoreboard, that they all had it four to three Edmonton final.
14:13
So, and then you know if- No, it went to overtime? It was, so if you looked at your a- at some of the- Oh, it's scripted, Gil. It's all scripted.
14:19
[laughs] If you looked at it, they were all, like, really janky, so this is, like, a little weird scoreboard thing that happened last night, too, so I was just, if you hadn't watched the game, you would have thought Edmonton had won in regulation.
14:29
Anyway, they win it in overtime, but no, I just thought that was weird also. Uh, let's talk to Nick Whelan, courtesy of Progressive Gaslight. He's the co-host of Prop Points here- Yeah...
14:36
on the network, uh, which takes place two hours after our, uh, our finish here, after m- so it's us, then it's Money, it was, it's By the Books, then it's us on a numbers game, then it's Money Moves, and then of course it's Prop Points with Nick and crew.
14:49
How you doing, Nick? What's happening, man? Doing well, guys. Doing well. Uh, good to be back. Always love hanging out with you guys, especially on a Friday morning, heading into a big weekend.
14:59
Got a golf outing up in the Green Bay area tomorrow, so fired up to be here, fired up to do our show and talk a little NBA. Uh, let's talk a little NBA first because I know you have some football thoughts as well.
15:10
Mm-hmm. Uh, which way are you going tonight? Kelly and I are not completely oppo. I'm taking the points. He's got OKC on the money line, total at 228 once again. Yeah.
15:21
You know, I would love to just hang on to my belief that OKC is the significantly better team. That's what, you know, the vast majority of the sample, including the regular season, has told us.
15:31
I mean, even the numbers, uh, at the book right now, OKC minus 220 still to win this series, despite trailing two to one.
15:37
I, I would love to feel like I could confidently trust the Thunder to bounce back tonight, but honestly, guys, game three to me was alarming, I, I think in a lot of ways.
15:45
You know, more so defensively than anything else for OKC, which I can't believe I'm saying, because I think that was kind of the, the more reliable side of the ball for this team.
15:52
But, you know, I, I thought going into this series, if Indiana was going to win, you know, more than one game, they were going to have to have some of these aberration shooting nights. You know, right?
16:01
Y- a night where you hit 18 three-pointers, similar to what they did in game one, and it's not like Indiana did that whatsoever in, in game three.
16:08
It's like, yeah, you're probably not getting 27 points again from Ben Mathurin off the bench, but the Pacers went nine of 27 from beyond the arc, and st- still won this game relatively comfortably.
16:18
You know, OKC just got straight-up beat.
16:20
You know, I, I think we saw for one of the few times this postseason what this offense can look like if you do a good job slowing down SGA, and all of a sudden it goes from all these role players that we really like to, you know, if you need to ask those guys to give you more than seven, eight, nine points off the bench, Caruso, Dort, uh, you know, guys like Cason Wallace, all of a sudden it, it felt to me like OKC felt thin, uh, on the offensive end.
16:42
So pressure is now on OKC. I expect the Thunder to respond. I would rather just play OKC on the money line, though, than mess around with the points right now, especially with how Indiana is closing these games.
16:52
I mean, they're at, they're something like plus 37, I think, uh, in terms of scoring in the fourth quarter alone.
16:57
Obviously, they've been doing that throughout the postseason, and it doesn't seem like a trend that's going to reverse even against this great OKC team.
17:03
Do you agree with us that tonight is the de facto NBA championship game, that whoever wins tonight wins the series? I, I think that's reasonable. Yeah, I, I think that's reasonable.
17:14
You know, if OKC wins, obviously, you know, you're sending it back to, to Oklahoma City. It's 2-2 at that point. The momentum is back on your side.
17:21
We'd see a huge jump in the series price, and yeah, I mean, it's, it's conceivable to me that the Pacers could blow a 3-1 lead, but I, I think with the level of confidence that this team is playing with, I don't think they would do that.
17:31
So yeah, I th- I think, you know, that's kind of a, it's a first-takey way [laughs] maybe to look at this game, but I think it's accurate.
17:36
I think it's accurate, and again, uh, the Pacers are, are the team to me That has played with more confidence so far in this series. Like, they are beating, guys, they're beating OKC at their own game.
17:46
They forced 19 turnovers in game three, scored 21 points off of those turnovers, 17 fast break points, 20 points in the long two range, which is really where guys like SGA and Jaylen Williams tend to operate, and instead, you know, it's been Halliburton and Nembhard and Ben Mathurin.
18:00
And again, we have to give a lot of credit to the Pacers defense. You know, the way Nembhard was harassing SGA in game three. They're giving up nothing easy in the paint, around the rim.
18:09
Uh, and of course, you know, the bench continues to be an advantage for the Pacers as well. 49 bench points in game three. Yeah.
18:15
I mean, you could say that, I guess, for, for any number of game fours that where the series is two to one. But I do feel like- Yeah... the way that this one breaks down, it, it really feels that way. Uh, to the NFL.
18:26
Uh, it is, uh, still June, mid, mid-June- Mm... but it's never too early to talk NFL. What are some of your bets that you've made here? Well, I, I, I don't throw a whole lot of things in too early, right?
18:38
We, we talk about plenty of options over on our show. I don't love the player futures market just because of how much injuries can, can weigh on that.
18:44
But one thing that I've been trumpeting on our show, on other shows, is you guys know I, I'm an AFC South guy, despite living in NFC North territory. I am a Jaguars fan.
18:54
[laughs] I, I, I'm not ready to fully buy in on this Jags team, and I still look at the Houston Texans right now as the team to beat in that division.
19:02
Uh, you know, obviously you have some questions about the offensive line after parting ways with Laremy Tunsil, but I, I think they've found ways to kind of mitigate some of the injuries in that wide receiver corps that completely sunk the passing game midway through last season.
19:14
You know, you bring in two talented rookies, you add a veteran in, in Christian Kirk. I think the offense essentially bottomed out last season, and that's as bad as it's probably ever going to look with C.J.
19:23
Stroud at the helm, and they still won the division by two games. And, you know, it's the AFC South, guys. Nine wins might take it.
19:29
I'm not saying Houston's gonna come out, uh, and win 12 or 13 games, but I still think this is the best coached team in the division. I think they have the best quarterback in the division.
19:37
They might have the best defense in the division. And look, if you like Jacksonville at +260, there's just, there's a lot of wish casting there, you know? And I, I have learned better with this franchise.
19:47
Even though I like Liam Cohen, you know, I think this team is moving in the right direction, I don't know that we're going to see a massive year one turnaround for the Jaguars to the point where they're winning this division.
19:56
And look, hard to get excited about the Colts right now. Titans are in a rebuild. I think getting Houston at plus money right now to win the South is a deal. Wish casting. I like that. Uh, anything else?
20:06
Or I have another NFL question for you if you don't have another bet. Do you have another bet besides that one? Uh, nothing that's really top of mind, so hit me with your question.
20:14
My question is this, and I'll, I ask this of, of, of a number of things. Yeah. What's the off field narrative in this NFL off season? What's the off season narrative that you're hearing,
20:25
you know, sort of anecdotally that you've heard more, in more than one or two places where you're like, "I don't know why this is a thing and I'm not buying into it"? Oh, that's a very good question. I,
20:39
I, I, you know, to, I, I've been skeptical of, of New England to some degree and, you know, this is more, it's kind of a mix of on and off field, I guess. You know, Stefon Diggs makes this more of an off field issue.
20:48
But I, I, I think there's just this general upswell of, "All right, the Patriots are back. They got Mi- Mike Vrabel. They have a, a star quarterback all of a sudden in Drake May."
20:57
Just because you go shopping in free agency and spend a bunch of money and, you know, some of the analysts say you had a great draft, I wanna see that in practice before I fully buy in.
21:05
You know, I'm not running to the window to play the over eight and a half wins on New England. I, I still think, you know, obviously Buffalo is by far the best team in that division.
21:12
I, I wanna see it before I believe it with the New England Patriots. And, you know, our producer on Prop Points, Michael Cohen, doesn't like when I say that on air because he is, he is hit the bag for this Pats team.
21:22
But- [laughs]... uh, that is something that I'm tracking very closely, is the expectation versus results as we get closer to training camp for New England. Because we, we've seen some encouraging things.
21:30
It feels like this team is moving in the right direction. I'm not fully, fully buying in on that quite yet. Real quick, Nick. Giannis plays in what city next year? Milwaukee, Wisconsin, baby. He's staying.
21:42
Nick Whelan, wish casting for Giannis. [laughs] Prop Points, 2:00 PM Eastern, 11:00 AM Pacific, each and every weekday here at the network. Coming back.
21:50
[upbeat rock music] A numbers game on VSiN, the sports betting network. Back on the numbers game live from Circa Resort Casino in downtown Las Vegas, Nevada. Gil Alexander and Kelly Bidlack, everybody.
22:07
You can follow Kelly on Twitter at @kelebidlack. You can follow Gil on Twitter at @beatingthebook. Thank you. Appreciate that. Um, by the way- That was, that was adorable... oh, we didn't plan that. No, we didn't.
22:18
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22:25
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22:34
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22:42
That's the latest one- [laughs] I don't know that one... that plays forever. Yeah. I don't know that one. Yeah. You remember, uh, remember Viddy, Viddy by Will getting, uh, uh, caught in the stock photo for gas prices?
22:51
Like you could just- Oh... go to like Getty Images- Yeah... and use like copyright free images, and Viddy's all mad that he's stuck in one of those. That's so great. In perpetuity. In perpetuity.
23:00
Uh, let's go to Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska, where, uh, the crew is all, I mean, the whole network is over there, including the co-hosts of Money Moves, which follows us each and every day.
23:10
They are live at Rocco's in Omaha, where the world-famous Jello Shot Room is in full effect. Look at all those kids coming out of there. Stormy Bonatony and JVT, ladies and gentlemen.
23:19
Jonathan Von Tobel, how you guys doing? Good. I, I thought, by the way, your favorite commercial was gonna be the G Bank commercial with me and Dave Ross, but it's fine if you've got another favorite. Oh.
23:27
We're, we're doing well though. It's f- it's fun over here at Rocco's.
23:31
Jello shots are already being purchased, and if it gives you any indication as to the vibes, my husband has a beer in his hand at 10:30 AM over here on the side. So we're ready to go, yeah. [laughs] Yes. Yes, indeed.
23:40
Uh, Stormy- Uh, you don't mention by the way, Stormy's commercial, uh, she's very mean to, I don't know if anybody knows this, the veteran- We didn't have to go there... uh, Dave Ross, the former Marine.
23:48
[laughs] She treats him like absolute garbage in the commercial. Gil, I am an actor. You are. I am an actor, okay? That's what, that's what I mean to say. You are the best actor, the best thespian we have at the network.
23:57
Thank you. You are very welcome. [laughs] I, I needed, I needed that. Thank you. By the way, I wanna thank the both of you also, because yesterday something happened in my brain during our, during our segment.
24:05
This is just us three talking right now, and Kelly's also listening in. Uh, where I thought it was Friday the entire time we were talking, and I'm like, "Hey, what about the games tonight?"
24:13
And you guys were great, where you were like, "Well, what's this guy talking about? Let's just play along."
24:16
But th- actually tonight, uh, before we get to the College World Series, Stormy- Breaking news, there are games today, Gil. Yes, it is actually today. Breaking news. Today is not Saturday.
24:25
[laughs] Um, about the Stanley Cup game four last night, my goodness. Uh, Edmonton comes back from a three to nothing deficit to, uh, to knot it up.
24:34
Uh, in overtime they win it five to four, knot up the series at two games a piece. Now it's a de facto- Yeah... best of three. Where are we on Conn Smythe right now, in your opinion?
24:44
I love that you asked that question, because right before we came on the air I asked JBT, "Hey, have you taken a look at the Conn Smythe odds?" Because they're chaos.
24:51
It's so volatile the way that things have moved around so much.
24:53
Leon Draisaitl, after the overtime game-winning goal last night, the fourth of this post-season for him, an NHL record, has now moved him up from what was 12 to one before the game yesterday to a plus 250, second shot on the board behind Sam Bennett, who of course leads the NHL post-season in goals right now with 14.
25:10
He did have an assist on the game-tying goal late in the last 19 and a half seconds of that one to force overtime.
25:16
But with the Oilers now equalizing the series, Oilers players are alive again, and Leon Draisaitl has leapfrogged Connor McDavid in that market. I have a future on Sam Bennett at 20 to one. Ooh.
25:28
Um, that's kind of my hedge on the Oilers to win the series, because I did like Edmonton to come out and win it all. With the way they got tripped up in game three, I wasn't as confident.
25:36
But this market is so interesting to me. I do think it's Bennett for the Florida Panthers where things sit right now.
25:42
Shocked to see the way Bobrovsky has dropped all the way down to 75 to one [laughs] in this market- Yeah... with the way that last night went. I think it's Bennett for them.
25:52
Um, Tkachuk obviously has made an argument with the goals that he scored last night, the point production he's had.
25:58
Um, but Leon Draisaitl making a big push here for Edmonton, whereas everybody said if the Edmonton Oilers win it again, it's gotta be Connor McDavid, right?
26:06
He wins it in a losing effort last year in the Stanley Cup final, but if Leon keeps scoring goals and the timely goals and the important, impactful goals like he does, plus 250, still very, very warranted if you like Edmonton.
26:18
Yeah, I mean, I, so I'm o- I'm one of the many who has a Draisaitl ticket. Mine is not quite as long as- Good for you... as some others. Well, here's my question to you. Maybe it is good for me.
26:26
But is, is all it's gonna take, this is what I was speculating earlier, let's say it goes to a game seven, and let's say Connor McDavid just makes some spectacular move, gets a goal.
26:35
It maybe, let's, let's just p- take it to the extreme. It's the game-winning goal.
26:39
Does it matter at that point if Draisaitl is still m- have, has the record for the most playoff overtime goals, or will the voters just say, "Well, it's Connor McJesus, for God's sakes. We gotta give it to him.
26:49
Look at that"? Is that all it's gonna take? I, I think it's, I think it's a toss-up, JBT. I'm curious your opinion on this.
26:55
Uh, it could very much so go either way depending on what the voters wanna do, especially considering Draisaitl and Connor McDavid are both tied, I believe, at 32 points right now.
27:04
So we've still got a lot of series left. You mentioned it, best of three the rest of the way.
27:08
If Draisaitl continues to score more goals and McDavid isn't matching the points, then yeah, I think you give Draisaitl the edge.
27:15
But McDavid winning the cup, being the world's best player that he is, I said it on the show the other day, I'd be shocked if Edmonton won, and quite frankly it wasn't him just because of the historical relevance that that carries and what voters might do.
27:29
But if Draisaitl does keep scoring goals, that's impactful as well. Sure. I, I mean, I, I'd be curious, Gil, like I've been picking her brain on this.
27:36
Like I don't know about the historical context of Conn Smythe in terms of the way these voters vote for it. In these other sports, as we have discussed, they tend to just gravitate toward the low-hanging fruit- Yeah...
27:45
which is the big name.
27:46
But if you talk to hockey media members, people who know the sport, somebody like Stormy, we talked to Greg Wyshynski, there is a clear respect for somebody like Draisaitl, and I think that even regardless of how the series plays out or just giving it to the best guy, I think Draisaitl's got enough respect that he would still be able to win this if he and Connor McDavid have comparable statistical outputs the rest of the series- Yeah...
28:06
and they go on to win it. I like it. I like it. Come on, Leon, get it home. Get it home. Yep. Um, all right. You are in Omaha for the College World Series after all. Um, we have two games tonight, uh, in bracket one.
28:18
I'm curious, first of all, what's, what's the vibe like from to- you know, since yesterday to today? Has the storm of folks come in, especially from LSU and Arkansas?
28:27
Has that crowd base, has that fan base gotten there from both of those schools? What's the vibe, and then what are your favorite bets today? I mean, I don't know about you, I've noticed a difference. Yeah.
28:36
Like walking in today, uh, the hotel lobby, they were actually already getting the band started. Uh, so I was sitting in the hotel lobby meeting with our own Steve Cohen, and it was at 9:30 in the morning over here.
28:46
They were already pushing troughs of beer out to the front of the hotel. [laughs] Uh, this is a different vibe today.
28:52
So I am very interested to see how the day will progress and what this is going to look like, but it does feel different to me- Yes... in terms of how many people are out here.
28:59
I, I'd say more than double than what we saw yesterday- Right... even just walking around. From the hotel, the, the short walk over here to Rocco's, the sidewalks are already filled with people.
29:07
They've got the, what is it, the, uh, the merch walkway that you have over here with all of the different stands already opened and filled with people, and Rocco's [laughs] is busy here for the Jello shot area in the Jello shot room.
29:18
So yeah, you can feel a difference.
29:20
As far as the bets today, I don't have an outright bet on either one of the games in bracket one, but I do wonder what your and like your guys' opinion is on this Coastal Carolina, Arizona game.
29:29
We had Matt Grissom on the program yesterday of College Baseball Insiders, and was talking about- How surprised he was to see Coastal Carolina just this big of a favorite at minus 230.
29:40
I kinda lean Arizona plus the run and a half at even money, because you're getting such a good price on it if we think this could be a close game, but Coastal Carolina's pitching staff is obviously so good.
29:49
They've got a great starter going, and the depth that they have compared to Arizona pitching wise. Yeah, I think I, I, I was also interested in this total too, Arizona and- Yeah... Coastal Carolina. We talked about this.
29:58
Uh, right now it's nine shaded to the under at a couple of spots. I tend to think that this is a game that could go over the total as well- Hmm... given the upside for both of these teams offensively too.
30:06
So, a higher scoring game, I think, in the first contest is something I'll be looking for earlier or excuse me, later today, Gil. Are you all doing this thing?
30:13
'Cause I spoke to Steve a little ba- a little bit yesterday also. Are you doing this thing where you have to cross the river to go into Iowa to make bets? Is that a thing?
30:21
So I'm gonna go, actually, when I'm done here- Yeah... I'm gonna go do the Skywalk. I wanna go check that out. I have not been able to go and walk across, but I will be doing that here.
30:28
There was a gentleman's establishment that was also across the border in Iowa- [laughs]... that we had driven by, but I guess I just have to drive o- you know, walk over the Sky Bridge. I don't have to go that far.
30:37
It, it did make us laugh that the first thing we see as we get off of the plane and we're making our way into Omaha was something that was very familiar to us as Las Vegas residents. Yes.
30:45
But y- yeah, I'm exci- I, I hope that... Derek already told us yesterday, Derek Stevens, owner of Circa, um, told us that we could hop in the limo van thing- Yep... that is fully stocked as well to go make said bets. Oh.
30:57
So that's what we're looking forward to. Oh, they have a limo that's fully stocked, Kelly. That sounds, that sounds very nice and convenient. That's right. Actually, sorry. Great. Uh, journalistic clarity, sorry, guys.
31:05
It's a party bus. Party bus. A party bus. It's a party bus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very different. Very different. John, I g- John, I got a very specific Omaha question for you.
31:12
You in the past have taken part in a hot dog eating contest on air, or sort of on air. Yeah. I have, uh, drank half gallons of eggnog on air before.
31:21
How does it compare, uh, shoveling as many jello shots, uh, d- down your throat as you can as possible? Shoveling. Oh, yeah. They, they go down a lot easier, especially because there's a variety of flavor.
31:31
You know, as you well know, Kelly, one of the challenges of professional eating, as we are professional eaters- Mm-hmm. Yes... uh, is that the repetitive flavor does get to you.
31:38
When you get deep into that eggnog, or when you get into your, like, fifth dog, uh, the repetitive flavor's pretty gross. So the fact that there's four different flavors, uh, makes it so much easier. So much easier.
31:46
I, I do wanna let it be known though, because you mentioned the hot dog eating. Mm.
31:49
July 4th hot dog eating contest, when that comes up, I have already purchased a hat that says, "Bad day to be a hot dog," that I'm ready to wear on air that day. I'm very excited. Wow. Uh, we had Jensen on earlier.
31:59
I asked him, "Who's the person, who's the VSiN host you're looking at where you're like, 'Uh, this is the jello shot person I need to be worried about?'" And he said Stormy. He said Stormy. I'll ask the same of you guys.
32:08
Who's the- What an honor... who's the pr- [laughs] You should be honored by that.
32:11
Uh, who is the person who you're looking across at your fellow VSiN host, and you're like, "That's the person, that's the person to beat right now"? Her. Uh, probably. I don't know about Stormy.
32:20
She's talking a lot, but I will say non-VSiN host- Wilbo... uh, I have been terrified of Wilbo, uh, Big Balls. Wilbo's throwing them down. Yeah. It, it's, I think he's at, like, 30, and that was yesterday.
32:29
The field, the field- Yeah... is unstoppable with, with Wilbo here. There's nothing anyone can do. Wow. But we're trying. We're gonna try. As soon as we're off the air today, we're ready to go.
32:36
Any purple vomit or anything yet? Not to my knowledge. No purple jello shots. [laughs] Okay. Guys, enjoy your time. Mixed, mixed with blue and green and red. [laughs] Enjoy your time.
32:45
We'll see you at the top of the hour. Stormy and JBT for the Money Moves right here at VSiN.
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33:05
Back with the numbers game live from Circa, Gil Alexander, Kelly Midland. Wanna recap some bets? It's bloody, man. Oh, it's- The US Open. Oh, boy... it's, dude, it's brutal.
33:15
Scottie Scheffler in danger of missing the cut. He is right now outside the projected cut line. He is five over for the tournament, two over for his second round.
33:23
I'm, and I bet him s- plus 1650 today to, to have low round. But projected cut right now is four over, and he is at five over with six holes to play. A lot of golf, obviously.
33:34
A whole bunch of guys have yet to tee off, so a lot of golf yet to be played, but you get the idea. As J.J.
33:40
Spaun and Thirston Lawrence, Kelly wants you to know they're not the same kind of golfer, but those two guys remain in the clubhouse chilling at 400 and 300 respectively. Sam Burns is up to 300 though?
33:50
Sam Burns is thr- yeah, he is three under. All right, so he's five. Sam Burns is the only person- And, and you're-...
33:55
defeating this, well, he's not the only person, but he's among the few defeating this golf course today. And your favorite right now at plus 550 is Sam Burns. Sam Burns. One back.
34:05
Victor Hovland nine to one right now, and he is one under par, three off the lead. Daniel Berger three off the lead, one under for the tournament. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, where's Bur- where's Berger's odds? Yeah.
34:18
Disrespectful. Where is he? Where are his odds? Uh, [laughs] there's, there's- Give me some of that. Let's see what Berger's, let's see what the Berger tax is. Uh, anyway- 50 to one on Berger right now? Give me that.
34:29
Give it. By the way, all of our bets recapped on every show, every host, every guest, every sport, uh, at
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vsin.com, by the way, vsin.com/picks for subscribers, but also recapped courtesy of GBank at the end of each and every show.
34:44
Mine, let's begin with that terrible Scottie Scheffler bet I made this morning at plus 16- 1650 to have the best second round score. That ain't happening. Uh, I do have the Pacers tonight, plus six, game four, let's go.
34:56
Let's get it done, Pacers. Let's not just cover. Let's win. Pacers plus six. Uh, and I've got these, uh, two going on. Tigers got a win yesterday.
35:03
By the way, oh, can we, wanna show, can we show the, uh, best June wins after this as well? Yeah.
35:07
I don't wanna interrupt the, uh, GBank, uh, best bets, but Tigers 16 and one, uh, 16 to one, most wins in June, and there's the dry sidle bet, nine to one to win Conn Smythe down to 250. What could go wrong?
35:19
What do you got, Kelly? Uh, tonight, Thunder, Moneyline, both first half and full game, Lou Dort over threes, one and a half. I, I'm willing to lay, uh, lay the juice.
35:30
I know that he's, he's kind of caught in that in between. I played Lou Dort last game too over one and a half.
35:35
I'd rather lay the minus one 60 with the one and a half than take, like- Plus 110 on two and a half Lou Dort on fire in game three. On fire. He's also your three-point leader right now for the series.
35:46
Uh, I did bet that pre-series, so that's, that bet's looking pretty good at least. Uh, Chris Felica came in here with, uh, two insulting wagers. One, he took Madison-- No, I'm kidding. They're both good wagers.
35:55
Madison Keys 18 to 1 to win Wimbledon. I endorse that bet. Um, Madison Keys is among the handful of ladies that is, uh, really live, I would say.
36:06
Well, first of all, Wimbledon is live beyond five, but she's one of the really serious, you know, historically good grass court players. 18 to 1 is a good price on Madison Keys.
36:15
I have not made a bet on Wimbledon yet myself, but that's a good number. And then he goes under on the Commodores, the Washington Commanders, under nine and a half wins.
36:25
Uh, all the reasons that Chris stated, I cannot, I do not have a counterargument for, right?
36:29
A lot of close wins last year, m- some might even say miraculous, um, uh, on some of those occasions, and Jayden Daniels was as great as could be.
36:38
He's going under nine and a half with the schedule getting tougher for the Washington Commanders. I- I've made a vow, by the way, Kelly, I'm gonna try to say Commanders this year. All right, man. Yeah.
36:47
I'm gonna try to say it. Every time? No, but I'm gonna try to say it a lot. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Jensen was on earlier. Jensen Lewis from By The Books, he has some college baseball bets for us.
36:57
All of these now are the, uh, first games respectively in brackets one and two. Arizona, Coastal Carolina. He's going under the total, nine and a half. Louisville, Oregon State, under the total of 10.
37:08
Murray State on the money line, plus 210, the Racers' magic carpet ride continues according to Jensen's bet.
37:15
And then LSU and Arkansas, under nine and a half in the clash of the two remaining SEC teams at the College World Series.
37:22
Then in Major League Baseball today, he's on the Red Sox on the money line, minus 142, and the Diamondbacks, minus 137. Bullpen holding up so far.
37:31
Paul Carr came in here and he made up a couple golf tour- a couple soccer tournaments that he bet on.
37:35
Um, one, Club World Cup, South American team to win at nine to one, and then the Gold Cup, which we are familiar with the Gold Cup. He is fading the United States of America. Some might call that unpatriotic.
37:49
Yeah, so is, uh, Pulisic, their best player. Yeah, he's said for- Big time in America... he's like, "Forget this." Big time America, Christian Pulisic. I got- I see you... I got other things to do. I see you.
37:59
So he, so he's going Saudi Arabia to win Group D at plus 250. Huh. Huh. No judgment. They, they don't sound like they're in, uh, North or Central America. No, they don't.
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38:49
Uh, I just wanna say this before we go today, um, because we were talking about how the ratings were down for both the NBA and the Stanley Cup Finals, but let me just say this.
38:58
Man, people who have not experienced these, these two postseasons this year, you are lesser for it. Mm-hmm. They have been spectacular. Yep.
39:07
I mean, the, uh, first of all, the, just the finals themselves have been unbelievable. Three out of the four NHL Stanley Cup Final games going to OT.
39:15
Uh, obviously the Pacers' magic carpet ride, to, to use that phrase again, continuing so far.
39:21
And again, I'll say it, you know, if the Pacers get to the promised land here, if they win the title, it is the most amazing, improbable run to any title I believe we've ever seen in any sport in the playoffs.
39:33
And it's just, I, I, I don't, the, the country apparently is not, uh, mesmerized by this according to the ratings. Betting handle, at least on my very little anecdotal survey that I'm doing, appears to be way down.
39:45
Um, but as far as just the, the amazement of American sport, let's say, in all this, it's been incredible. It really has. Really has. Can't wait for tonight's game, uh- Can't wait... in the NBA. It's a massive game.
39:57
Um- I scheduled dinners around it. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, like I'm like, I don't wanna miss this. It's a great sports day. US Open and then NBA tonight. Love it. US Open's got you down a little bit?
40:05
Well, it's, it's just all gonna come down to today. Yeah. I got this 60 to 1 Mr. Cup parlay that I'm, like, really live on, but everything else is looking pretty rough. I, I, hey, some guys haven't teed out, off.
40:15
Ludvig, Keegan, maybe they do something in the second round, uh, make things look a little bit better for me, but right now, not all that hot. Who is... Let's say, let's say someone wants to jump in after this round.
40:23
Obviously, we only have the current leaderboard to go by. Um, who is the [laughs] You already know where the question- Well, no, it's just, it, it's- What, who's the name?
40:30
This- What's the name that you're like, "I think I might bet this guy to win it"? Well, yesterday I thought it was Jon Rahm. That ain't looking, I did- Nope... I did bet him. That's not looking so great right now.
40:40
I, look, Viktor Hovland I did bet a, a top 10 on, uh, entering today. Hovland's, man, his... He couldn't putt. He's lurking. He could not hit a putt yesterday. His tee to green numbers were great, though.
40:50
Um, he's lurking right there. A- A- He's- Reback... he's had a tough season to figure out. He started off like crap, uh, picked up the win at the Valspar, has had, like, a couple top 30 finishes since then.
41:00
Um, I, I think Viktor's got a shot here. I think he's got a shot. Si Woo I think is my answer. Where's your guy Ludvig? Is he, is he nowhere to be found? He's like two over. He hasn't teed off yet. Okay. All right.
41:11
Gil, you ever done a JelloShot, by the way? What is- Savannah brought these in... this a non-alcoholic, uh- Yeah... JelloShot right here? You gonna partake? I didn't even think you were gonna partake.
41:18
This, well, I mean- So you know... you sort of killed me. So this is like a, this is like if you were- This is like a double... if you're in the hospital. Right. Correct. How does this work?
41:25
This is gonna go all over my shirt? So, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna show you. This is how you do it, because you, I know you went to- Yeah... a fancy school in Boston, right? So, like, this is, uh- Fancy school of Boston.
41:34
I, I went to a dir- dirty Florida State, okay? No, no names. This is what you gotta do. You gotta, you gotta put your finger in here first, okay? What? So you gotta separate the Jell-O from the cup, okay?
41:42
This is, this is how the real pros do it. Make sure you don't wash your hands beforehand. That's very important. It adds to the flavor, okay? And then- That will make...
41:49
That, that makes it easier to come out of the, uh, the plastic? Correct. Then it makes it easier to come out of the plastic, and just because Savannah wants to see me spill an entire Jell-O cup on my shirt- Yeah...
41:57
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do this right now. I'm gonna try. All right. Gilly Billen, everybody. Very impressive. Years, years of practice. Good. Yeah. Now, that's, that's bigger than a regular Jell-O shot, though.
42:09
Was that, like, a cherry flavor? Something like that. Cherry, strawberry, I don't know. Well, all right. You, you, you- When are we, when are we doing? You waiting, you waiting for me to- My hand's, my hand's sticky.
42:18
You waiting for me to do this? Is this what the excitement is? Yeah, it's your turn, bro. Oh. Come on, man. So I'm, I'm doing it like you said do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do it like this.
42:24
Oh, the crew's chanting your name in the back. By the way, this is, this is the whitest network I've ever worked at. [laughs] These white people. Uh, here we go. Here we go. [laughs] That's my reaction.
42:33
Wow, how is, how is your finger not all red like mine? I just spilled it. How is that? Now I do this like this? Yeah. Yeah. Now you just chug it back. Yep, there you go. Oh, oh. [laughs] How you get it all in your mouth?
42:44
I don't know what's going on. Years of experience, man. This is actually very, this is actually very tasty. Very ta- I didn't really taste. Oh. I just kinda s- Yeah... threw it back. So what am I gonna do with my finger?
42:51
Yeah, I know. That's what we each got an issue. I should have saved this for 30 more seconds. This is exciting. Sorry. Anyways, NBA Finals on the way out. I'm on the Moneyline Thunder tonight.
42:59
[laughs] Gills on the Pacers plus the points. Plus the points. Pacers plus the points, for sure. Um, why not? I've done it every night. Why not keep going?
43:07
It's been a very profitable ride, and I do think- I can't blame you. I get it.
43:10
I know, I know Nick Whalen called it very first takey when I said this earlier, um, but I do think it's the de facto NBA championship tonight. Oh, I, I disagree with the wording a little bit.
43:19
Like, it's a must-win for the Thunder. I think it's over if the Pacers win tonight. Must-win for the Thunder. Just to keep this alive. You don't think it's a must-win for the Pacers? No. Oh, okay. That's different.
43:31
All right. Uh, we've done all we could do. Sorry about the Jell-O shot thing. Uh, Omaha, College World Series. Stormy and JBT next with Money Moves. Enjoy, from Visa, the sports betting network.
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